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User talk:IanManka/Archive/13DO NOT EDIT OR POST REPLIES TO THIS PAGE. THIS PAGE IS AN ARCHIVE. This archive page covers approximately the dates between 5 January 2007 and 21 January 2007. Post replies to the main talk page, copying or summarizing the section you are replying to if necessary. i apologizei am deeply sorry for the happenings on my computer. this is a frequently used computer, and though it is mine, i leave it open for use by my family and friends. I cannot make any promises, but i can tell you that i will make an effort to stop these happenings thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.173.77.52 (talk • contribs).
I've de-proded this, since there has been an objection on the talk page. You are welcome to take it to afd (I've formed no opinion)--Docg 00:35, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia WeekThe best existing proposal I can, in my own limited way, think of for the previously discussed "appreciation week" can now be found at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week#Wikipedia Week. Any comments or responses would be more than welcome. Badbilltucker 15:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC) Restore «biparentalness»Can you please restore biparentalness? There is no reason to delete an important concept that is affecting millions of people. --Dejudicibus 20:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
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Pasted portion ends here. ThanksHi IanManka, and thanks for blocking that vandal a few minutes ago. Also, have you noticed that the WP:HOLICTEST also has a new question asking if you've given yourself a barnstar? It has a negative score. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 20:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Child modeling (erotic)Just a fore-statment, I am a child and in no way like child pornography, I am totally against it and definately believe it to be illegal. However, I am wondering why you deleted that page after the illegal links had been removed. I was just about to add an editor's message (DO NOT ADD ACTUAL IMAGES OF CHILD MODELING THAT IS PORNOGRAPHY BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL IN FLORIDA AND THE UNITED STATES; YOU COULD GET BLOCKED AND FEDERAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AGAINST YOU (BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNEMNT, NOT WIKIPEDIA)) and a notification on the talk page to stop this kind of stuff from being added. It should also be semi-protected. I'm just wondering your reasons in deleting. Please also note that I am an administrator, so I can view the page just like you and you do not need to go into any extra trouble in actually linking to the wrong sites if they exist. (Please don't!!! :)) Thanks, Cbrown1023 02:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism misspellingThat's funny, thanks for catching me on it. I did mean to say "don't".Fistful of Questions 15:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC) MSN MessengerTalk:MSN Messenger - User:Themodernizer created the survey as you requested. It's been about a week, so I suppose you can close it now, or leave it open longer if you would like further discussion. (Posting this message as you requested : ) - jc37 21:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC) CitationIf you would be so kind… Lovelight 23:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Backpacker MagazineI noticed you prodded and then deleted the Wiki page for Backpacker magazine Backpacker Magazine when you were scrolling through the "B's" in early January. I wrote this page in December 2006, and recently drafted a new version that is less advertorial and more informative. I added information about the history of Backpacker Magazine and plan to add more. Please check it out and let me know what you think. I am from Akron, Ohio by the way. - Jrsteven - jason-att-jasonstevenson-dott-net P.S. Please check out the wiki for Backpacker Light Magazine as well. I think they might have gone a little advertorial as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jrsteven (talk • contribs) 23:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC). TheMagazineI'd like to know why TheMagazine was prodded and deleted. Some other admin deleted the images for being copyright infringements but they are not because I wrote the article with permission from the publication's presidents. - Merlin33 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merlin33 (talk • contribs).
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]). Nike disambiguation linksHi, I'm a disambiguator too. I just found the page You can help! and picked Nike at random from "completed projects" to see if it was still completed. I found and fixed 20 new incoming links, all for Nike, Inc. This will never end! In my view it would be better to make Nike a redirect page for the latter, and move the disam page to Nike (disambiguation). That might offend the purists, but will make for less maintenance on Wikipedia. I'll say so on the talk page; please reply there. Fayenatic london 07:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC) World Tavern Poker TourI am a local player on the World Tavern Poker Tour in the York, PA area. I have also considered joining Riverchasers, or the National Pub Poker League, but these are smaller, regional games. The World Tavern Poker Tour IS notable as the largest worldwide amateur poker league in existence. I neglected to mention this fact in the article. Because of this status, it is the largest organized league in an otherwise "underground" sport. The other "major" amateur poker tour include the Amateur Poker Tour. However, I cannot write about that subject because there are no venues near me. As a player, I tried to remain NPOV in the article and refrain from becoming an advertisement for the tour. I would also like to point you to a YouTube video from the last "WTPT Open", and ask about it's appropriateness in including it in such an article: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4L4ncGlGHc The championships occured at Binions in Las Vegas, and the next will occur at the Taj in Atlantic City in May (just announced SUNDAY, which is why I'm back at the article)... Greg Raymer is to give World Tavern Poker Tour players another opportunity for training in a "Fossilman Challenge" to be held in Pennsylvania. Greg Raymer, the 2004 World Series of Poker Champion, is a WTPT spokesperson. Although venues are encouraged to give top 3 prizes, many give top one, and some only a tshirt or hat, and still get 40-60 plus a night (many go to the same rounds of places night after night). These players frequently play together by going to AC, Vegas, etc. or online - in groups and making money. Some have been, are, or have recently made the decision to be "professional" or semi-pro players. Some others have dealt in casinos. Many tag along just to have fun and drink. The bottom line? The WTPT is the largest amateur league in a sport that is the #1 rated show for multiple cable networks. I do believe it is notable. And I would greatly appreciate reinstatement of the article, as well as any assitance in production. I do the best I can (I hate CMS and Wikis). Sidenote: The Amateur Poker League is Doyle Brunson's League... So an article on that league, the world of "Amateur poker" in general, differences in scoring, etc, would be useful. I want to see MORE on OTHERS not LESS. Is this notable? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Rock_Paper_Scissors_League
Update... I did misspeak about the WTPT being the "largest organized league", however the WSOP and WPT does not (to my knowledge) provide opportunities for poker players to play in areas restricted from gambling. Nor can they lay claim to having events in as many states. Quarterly events in the WTPT do reach 300-400+ entrants who qualified by averaging 12 weeks of play at their local venue. Although the tavern level atmosphere is "shuffle up and drink" (these games are held in bars typically, as are, I believe, most other amateur "no buy in" tours), a quick search of last season's WTPT top 50 reveals some players listed in the Hendon Mob DB with cashes in WSOP events (Chris Keller, Michael Martin, Joe Greiner(?), et al..). Also, Agreed, they are not notable enough for Wikipedia, but of these players, I know Chris, and he takes the tour seriously. There are also tournament players who have cashed at casinos in AC, down south and in Vegas in events not covered by media (since this is a talk page, I'm just telling you, since that's not citable) 40-60 players is significant for tournament venues with that capacity. Also, with basically no money at stake, drawing this many players, ~in this area~, for any event is big. Some venues, especially venues that do give significant prizes away, attract more freerolling players than others. The general mood of league player I know (on and off this particular tour, or on other tours) is that if you want to win money, you can do better, faster going online or to a casino than freerolling for $50 in a bar. I would like to actually create articles myself on the other amateur national tours such as the Amateur Poker League, and note other minor leagues in an overall article on such leagues (which WSOP and WPT are not truly "national" nor "ameteur" leagues in that an amateur has no credible chance of climbing the national TOC or "best player" ranks without becoming a "professional")... There are professional dart and pool players, and professional events/leagues, however an ameteur can climb the ranks in a local league without having to quit his day job and "go pro". However, it's these lower level leagues where many pros are "born". For example, the ABC vs. PBA. You can bowl in local leagues your entire life and have a sufficient average to qualify for the PBA and be the king of your alley, but never go pro or have to invest substantially beyond basic equipment (I realize that is a bad analogy, as the WSOP and WPT have no qualification criteria, although the "sufficient average" in a lower live-play league can propel a poker player that would otherwise be playing online and when they can get to a casino). I believe these myriad number of national (and international) amateur leagues need their own "word", however I can't quite coin one. I slowly want to contribute with what I can record credibly and know where to cite. The WTPT, as I said, is the only "notable" tour around here - the other two are not national, and the other notable ones are not. I can and would be willing to begin an article on the APL, however as I said in the previous paragraph, I'm wondering what ties this type together - They shouldn't be lumped under "tournaments" in Poker, and WSOP/WPT is not _strictly_ for professionals so Amateur vs. pro is out (except for PPT). However, the mere existence of no-buy in, highly organized national leagues is not otherwise addressed in Wikipedia. There's a no-buyin league article in the UK, but that article's up for deletion as well. Finally, poker _is_ an underground sport that is televised. Just because it's becomeing legal (and therefore not underground) in more and more states does not mean it doesn't remain so in most of the country. Without the existence of leagues like this, poker players (pro and amateur) would be relegated to playing home games where skill building is not as quick, the internet where the landscape changes often and is nothing like live play, and when they "get to" the casino. Not every pro lives in vegas. So to summarize: - I get your POV, but I disagree - The tour has crazy times, but the WSOP especially has "The Nuts" where goofy things are shown regularly - These tournaments are different from and are _not_ competitors of the WSOP or WPT (despite WPT's allegation), but are talent feeders/builders. - I'd like to create pages for the other tournaments (APL, NPPL), however I'd fear they'd be deleted for "notability" because they're not on TV, don't have famous players, etc. - There are pros and semi-pros who play in these games, however "pro" simply means making a living playing poker, not cashing at the WSOP or on a WPT event. (of course the number of "pro players" in the world is enourmous, so the fact that some practice in the WTPT is simply mathematics) - I will do a furter search for larger cashes of players who came out of the WTPT - There are not _celebrity_ players, however, except Greg Raymer, who is simply a spokesperson, as Doyle is for the APL. - The pros and amateurs make up the "top lists", something rare in WSOP/WPT world of large buy ins I think the WTPT, NPPL and APL (and the smaller ones) are a different breed/class of poker tournament that is _overall_ notable and particularly of interest to poker players outside of gambling states. (But what to call the breed?)
Dabbing cable carHi, Ian. I was looking through the list of dab pages with links and noticed cable car, which your note says calls for someone with transport expertise. I have that expertise and am also a dab fanatic, so I was thinking I would adopt the page along with the eight others I'm already staying on top of. What do you think? --Tkynerd 17:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Re : You beat me to it!No, it was done all by hand. :) - Mailer Diablo 22:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia admin Tregoweth is in a bit of trouble right now. He has redirected the movie page to the animated series page when the show and the movie are two different things. Myself and another user have complained about his actions toward the article. Please see the existing talk page and give me your perspective about this issue. Best. Marcus2 13:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Good job!...in redesigning Image:Stop hand.svg. I really like the new version. Keep up the good work! If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 04:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
206.219.87.130Hey. Thanks for noticing my unsigned warning to 206.219.87.130 irt Industrial robots. I've been messing around with my own warning tags and forgot to add the tildes. As for that user, your comment mentioned no vandalism past test4, but I specifically have noted three that have occurred. True, mine was the latest one, but don't test4s only three days old have any weight? --LeyteWolfer 02:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC) I meant on Wikipedia:Featured content—for example, how could I have known ahead of time that the FA from August 14, 2006 was going to appear today? --Spangineerws (háblame) 02:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC) TranswikiHistoric pictures of 1906 San Francisco earthquakeHi. You marked Historic pictures of 1906 San Francisco earthquake as transwikied to Commons. However on the linked Commons version, more than half the photos seen in the en:Wikipedia version are dead links. The Commons transwiki seems be incomplete or have some problem. I therefore reverted the en: version. -- Infrogmation 04:49, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Other discussionHi IanManka! I've noticed that you've transwikied some articles to Commons. Therefore you copyied the Edit history (e.g. here). As far as I know m:Help:Transwiki is outdated, it can now be requested to import pages so the history will be transfered, as well. See the talk page of Help:Transwiki. I think special:import is not yet activated at Commons (because there was not need to do so) but I think it would make sense to do so. --Matt314 11:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC) Hi Ian, also regarding this -- why are these pages being transferred? Is it as a result of AFDs? Many of them are full of blank images. Did anyone think to check that the images were actually loaded at Commons (and not en.wp) before suggesting this? Because they are useless to us, we may as well delete them, the AFD may as well have been 'delete'. --pfctdayelise (talk) 11:35, 13 January 2007 (UTC) If you missed it, I think the point needs to be stressed that Wikimedia:Commons is a collection of media such as images. The images are key. The image gallery pages here on en:Wikipedia were often created years ago before the Commons existed. Now such image galleries usually go to Commons. It is the images that need to be transfered to Commons. Transfering the pages without transfering all the individual imagesis not useful. -- Infrogmation 15:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
ArchiveI used to archive every 30 discussions... then I got lazy.... — BRIAN0918 • 2007-01-13 18:29Z He Ian, hope all is well with you. I have put in a request for a peer review of the Maria Callas article. If you get a moment, would you take a look at the peer review request and lend it a bit of your talent, or perhaps pass it on to colleagues who might be willing to give it some attention? Many thanks, Robert K S 19:55, 13 January 2007 (UTC) Malformed requested movesHi there. I was following up an old requested move I made, and I finally tracked its removal down to this edit you made. Your edit summary said: "rm Basel earthquake -- malformed". Could you explain in what way the request was malformed? Thanks. Carcharoth 01:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about thatWas just correcting and reverting things so quickly, I forgot to sign them. It is freakin' nuts today! It is like everyone and their brother is vandalising Wiki today. I will remember to sign my posts....my apologizes. Rock on.....SVRTVDude 17:49, 20 January 2007 (UTC) Editing my userpageHi, I didn't ask you to do that [1]. If you'd checked the history you would have noticed it was intentional. Please take more care. :| --pfctdayelise (talk) 07:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC) Message for DiliffTrying to get a hold of user - Diliff please contact me at danlt888@verizon.net I need to talk to you about one of your photo's and $$$$$$$$$ please contact me A.S.A.P. sinncerr Danny —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.110.224.114 (talk) 16:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC).
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