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Hey i thought it would be better to write the article in my sandbox, so i have moved the entire text of Rajiv Yuva Kiranalu to my sandbox, but the page still shows, I do not know how to remove the main page of the article can you please help?
Thanks. Devanshi1208 (talk) 12:11, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi Justin, I'm well. How about you? By the way, did you used go by a different username? I was just reviewing our interactions, but other than seeing you around The Teahouse, I can't remember where else I know you from. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 05:22, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Reversion
Hey Jethro,
That's the last article I made that mistake on, changed the other ones (moved to talkpage) that were reverted by other users. --JustBerry (talk) 16:38, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Rating Mathematics Articles
Hey Jethro,
I rated a couple of WikiProject Mathematics "unassessed" articles yesterday, but they do not appear to be updated here. Any ideas if the updating script/bot is working, or for that matter, if there is one? --JustBerry (talk) 18:43, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
I think this updates once a day. I just forced an update here for mathematics, but there are still unassessed articles which clearly have an assessment. My only guess is that "small" parameter you've been adding to the assessment templates may be messing with it, but that doesn't seem likely. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 18:53, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Okay, let me try removing the "small" parameter and update the project. I will let you know what happens. --JustBerry (talk) 18:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Changed all articles to the simpler "one-line" format that you suggested and force updated the project. It doesn't appear to work. --JustBerry (talk) 20:04, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello! Thanks for the notice. Will be more careful next time. The user seemed to have no activity other than that page, and the talk page was empty as well. Doesn't excuse me not fully reading the diffs though. Will do better next time! YuviPanda (talk) 18:15, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
New users don't really know about this sort of stuff and they need to be given the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, some of the warnings about vandalism (and perhaps even the copyvio tag that I put on there) might have driven the editor away. I appreciate that you'll take more care in the future. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 18:21, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
I guess I'll take this as a strong lesson about the actual implications of BITE, and be much more careful in the future. YuviPanda (talk) 18:28, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Is a Spanish TV Show (Street Travellers in English) where reporters travel to different countries to know about the culture etc, this one is about Ireland is the 23rd chapter of the 2nd season. There are more details above. ↑. Thanks :)Ms.Bono(zootalk)☆20:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Here's the syntax you need; you can paste it into the article the first time you reference the source:
<ref name=Cubillo>>{{cite AV media| people=Cubillo, Carolina (Director) | date=7 December 2009 | title=Callejeros Viajeros| trans_title = Street Travellers| medium=Television production | location=Ireland | publisher=[[Cuatro (TV channel)]]}}</ref>
Thereafter, you can use this wiki markup to reference it:
Thanks for your hints. I have requested a user name change, not indicating the company.
Aren't most company articles started by someone from company?
/From a first time creator of a an article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ingate678 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Many times they are, but often they are too promotional or are otherwise essentially spam, and are quickly deleted. Yours is a rare exception, and I'd guess you have either read up on Wikipedia policies or have used an appropriate article from another company as a sort of template to write this one, which is a good practice. Keep in mind that although you have written this article, you do not own it-- it can be changed by anyone (though things like obvious vandalism can be easily undone, even by you). This is an important concept to understand, because, for example, if bad press were to be written about your company and covered by reliable sources, it would be perfectly fine for someone else to add that content to the article-- just something to consider. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 19:47, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
I normally add that I couldn't find any significant coverage to my ASD nominations, but I forgot to this time while working on other Wikipedia things. SL93 (talk) 16:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your help, Jethrobot! :) it would be appreciated if you help me keep the article Bike Race (video game) on Wikipedia, I know you're already doing your best to help me with this matter. You can check that video game's talk page too, I've added somethings there. Thanks very much!. Megahmad (talk) 21:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, I can't make any promises-- the page may, in the end, be deleted. It all depends on what we are able to find and how participating editors evaluate our arguments and the article. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 00:59, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
IRC office hours for wiki-mentors and Snuggle users
Hi. We're organizing an office hours session with the Teahouse to bring in mentors from across the wiki to try out Snuggle and discuss it's potential to support mentorship broadly. The Snuggle team would appreciate it if you would come and participate in the discussion. We'll be having it in #wikimedia-officeconnect on Wed. July 17th @ 1600 UTC. See the agenda for more info. --EpochFail(talk • work), Technical 13 (talk), TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:34, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I got a message saying my Listo f anime convention attendance figure article was reviewed by you. What does that mean? Does it mean article was approved and deemed to meet wikipedia crtieria?--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:36, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Couldn't seem to get Teahouse interface to work so thought I'd try there--Is there a bot or other expedited way to add in ISBNs to Wikipedia page reference listings? SarahPML (talk) 19:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey Sarah. I've posted this to the Teahouse Questions page here: Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#ISBN_bot.3F. By the way, what exactly went wrong at the Questions page? Did the window appear to allow you to type in your question? Were you just not able to submit because the button was grayed out? Did you remember to put four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your message for your signature? I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 20:51, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
You asked me to answer "below," but there was no "below".
When I clicked on the space below your message, there was no response: my mouse did not engage on the page. The same thing happened when I tried to ask a question on the Chat page.
I've written an article on a distinguished American playwright and author, and need someone to format to meet Wikipedia's standards & requirements.
Many thanks in advance for your advice and/or assistance.
Well, much like how you edited my talk page here to make your message, you also need to edit your page. Simply clicking below without using either the VisualEditor or the source editor won't allow you to enter text. Are you referring to Richard France? I'll take a look at it today. Also, be sure to sign your posts to talk pages with four tildes like this: ~~~~. It creates a signature with a timestamp so it's easier to see the author and timestamp of a given comment. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 19:11, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Oops, thanks. That was my mistake. I did look at Filmian's contributions, but forgot to link it to AfC. Funny how there was another Richard France... I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 19:28, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Filmian-- I've tried to clean-up the page as best as I was able. I added some sources per the last recommendation. You can make other changes as you see fit and resubmit the article when you please. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:04, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
That's strange, I don't remember reverting that at all this morning. My guess is that I had a couple of tabs open and I mistakenly reverted it at one point (clearly, there's nothing wrong about your request). Please accept my apologies (I am just as confused as you are), and I'll restore the request there. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 13:22, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! That is odd. I figured I had edit conflicted with someone who did need reverting, but couldn't figure it out. Much appreciated. UltraExactZZSaid~ Did13:23, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
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I very much appreciate your award of the Great Answer Badge to me for my Teahouse reply. New editors sometimes get the wrong information and I do feel that when we have the chance, we should help anyone asking for assistance!--Amadscientist (talk) 01:08, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I saw your quick vote after I nominated the page for deletion. I haven't been involved in a deletion before so I'm not sure what passes for good information. I don't mean to argue with you here, I wish to understand the process. You provided a couple citations, and sure, I could see some of those, there's even one from the New York Times. But if you have any familiarity with the PR machine, you'll know how easy it is to get coverage in the mass media. So the issue shouldn't be how many citations can we dig up in a google search, but a harder question on how many *relevant* citations are there? The contention is that "neuroleadership" is the creation of an individual, David Rock, who coined the term to describe his executive coaching business and created a self-reinforcing PR cascaded which generates press coverage. How else would he be able to sell his books, services, etc? He is not an academic who is working on brain science / neuroscience applied to management/leadership, nor is there evidence of collaboration -- the academics mentioned in the 2007 Businessweek article you found have no publications on the subject. One doesn't have to be an academic to come up with some "new scholarly area" as he claims, but then one wouldn't lie about his credentials like Rock does on his website: "He received his professional doctorate in the Neuroscience of Leadership from Middlesex University in 2010," when in fact that university has no such degree or course of study. Before starting the nomination process I posted on the Neuroleadership Talk page evidence that his idea has *no* acceptance in the field in neuroscience (I then realized there had to be a different way to deal with this problem and discovered the nomination for deletion process). Out of 1.5 million scholarly papers indexed by the NIH/National Library of Medicine on brain science / neuroscience there are zero publications about it (that's what I meant by *relevant* a few sentences ago... if a scientific claim is made, what do the scientists say?) There is a biomedical journal article that discusses "neuroleadership" but when I actually read the article and looked at the citation in it, the citation was to an online "journal" that David Rock posts on one of his websites! Again, a classic PR cascade. We can turn up lots of hits in broad google searches but to me one has to look at them critically... many are interviews with David Rock, or stories about David Rock... they are NOT about how leadership is related to *specific* aspects, theories, mechanisms, etc. of neuroscience. I turned up an article on "neuroleadership" in a blog called "NeuroBollocks - Debunking pseudo-neuroscience so you don't have to"... does that qualify as an argument against non-notable? The Wikipedia general notability guideline requires that things be "independent of the subject" but the problem here is that David Rock's business over the past few years has generated PR that superficially distances him, but if scratched below the surface it turns out it's not independent of the subject... it's all about David Rock and consulting business. How do we prevent Wikipedia from being exploited by people who try to use it to lend legitimacy to their parochial interests? There has to be a way... Lapabc (talk) 08:06, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I can understand your reason for nominating the article. I have a background in cognitive psychology, and the whole thing reeks of something he made up one day. But here are my reasons why the article should be kept:T
The contention that the subject may represent a fringe theory is not really relevant here considering the article is about the fringe theory itself, nor are the individual's credentials. Even coverage discrediting the theory is still considered significant coverage, and certainly would not be a reason to delete the article. Coverage is coverage is coverage.
Forbes, NYT, and BusinessWeek are not PR machines. I am familiar with the PR machine, and there is a huge difference between something appearing in newswires or PR service publications and getting coverage from larger news companies with established editorial teams, and as such, constitute reliable sources.
The subject has significant coverage. A common problem with neologisms is that they receive only trivial mentions and often are not referred to as a developed concept but are incidental. This does not appear to be the case here.
Even though there may be little validity to this concept (which is something that can certainly be added to the article so long as it is discussed by reliable sources), and it may very well be that Rock paid a lot of money to get PR, the fact that the topic is covered in-depth by independent, reliable sources. I think your best bet is to find coverage of the idea that provides information that it may not be backed by empirical studies (keep in mind due weight by avoiding bombarding the article with criticism). I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:13, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I posted a reply on the deletion debate page... I hope you are persuaded this time. Btw, a lot of those mass media articles you cited are just interviews with David Rock or stories about David Rock... yet there is no Wikipedia page on David Rock because he is not, well, he is not "notable" enough. I know there is a lot of junk on Wikipedia that we must tolerate. In cases like this I would prefer that Wikipedia is not used as a free PR engine for people whose flashes in the pan will fade away. If this guy really has something, then great, let's see in a couple years, but not now. I'm going to stop at this point. Nice chatting with you.Lapabc (talk) 22:43, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed this question. When you create a page on Wikipedia (any kind of page, even a user page), it needs to be reviewed or patrolled. One reason this is done is to check for speedy deletion candidates like blatant vandalism or copyright violations. The only exception to this is when you have the autopatrolled designation, which means that pages you create do not need to be patrolled. Users who have this right must request it, and usually have a history of creating at least 50 articles without any concerns. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 16:34, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey, no problem. I'm about to look at the link you gave me. Thanks much! Note to those page stalkers, my catch-phrases are explained on my user page.Justaguy120 (talk) 02:55, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Did you know ... that since you expressed an opinion on the GA/DYK proposal last year, we invite you to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the matter? Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Regards, GilderienChat|What I've done22:59, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
How do i post something that could have used help with my article?
Hello, thank you for reviewing my article. Since I recently created an article, do you know how to get users to work on my article? My article needs some major reworks in information and stuff like that because I worked on this for two days straight and my computer was heating up so i had to post it right away without having time to correct. BTW, what do you think of my article so far? Good? XXzoonamiXX (talk) 06:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I think it's coming along well. I have a couple of suggestions:
You're using the same reference many times, which is fine, but it's listed in the references as though it were a different source each time. There's a way to collapse these into one line, which you can read about here.
Morton's fate revealed sounds like a chapter title out of a fictional novel rather than something encyclopedic. Try something less dramatic.
Sometimes the tone in the article veers more toward a dramatic personal account. For instance, "On the early morning of December 25, Gulovich made a decision that saved her life." The latter part of this can be removed and replaced with what she actually did. Check around the article for other examples and try to avoid this kind of tone throughout the article.
I never say anything about people seeing my article. What I said is I want OTHER users to help me rework the article without having to post the same topic on one user pages to the other (which is against the Wikipedia rules). Also, what does that mean "check around the article for other examples?" Like something specific? I can't go around from article to article to see what is good. I mean, I'm on my own with no explicit help or guide at all. Also, I don't know how to use the ref even though I read the instructions (which is confusing and not helping me at all). XXzoonamiXX (talk) 06:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Visibility is one way of getting your article improved, that's why I suggested it. When there are more eyes on the article (because people can more easily find it), they tend to make small but important changes over time. You should also realize that when you write articles, you usually are on your own. It's a learning process, and yes it can be steep, and that's OK because learning Wikipedia is not a race. I suggested the Teahouse to you as a place to ask for help, but realize most people don't have the time to dedicate to doing a complete rework of the article. I also wrote an article on a reporter, Leon Daniel, so perhaps you can use that as a reference for tone. You also seem to know how to do references, as many appear in your article. Can you explain what trouble you are having with using the same reference more than once? I would rather see you be able to do this rather than do it for you, because you'll learn better doing the former. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 06:55, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
No rush for it. I am working on a draft for a new article --> (♣). I need to find if the book released date was on 22, 23 or 26 November 2006. Can you make some research? Again, no rush for it. Whenever you have time. Thanks in advance. Miss Bono [zootalk]19:21, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I did a bit of snooping around. I have a few sources that say a version of the book was actually released on September 26th ([1], but I am not sure this is the international version or not. There was also a book signing on September 22nd ([2]) for a version of the book. So, it's hard to tell; my guess would September 26th if it's the correct version. It's probably OK, however, to just say November 2006 in the article without worrying too much about the exact day. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 01:04, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello Jethrobot and thanks for taking such an active interest in this article. It is indeed interesting to see what problems other users face in accessing sources what have never presented problems for me. I don't know where you are located but I move around quite a bit myself, mainly between Denmark, Luxembourg and France, and have never had any difficulty in accessing PDF files such as [[3]]. This one, by the way, was included as it testifies to the important historical role of Østofte Church in the community.
The references concerning the church in the body of the article (again in Danish) refer specifically to the frescos or murals on the chancel vaults. This one states that "a fresco decoration in the chancel's star vault from c. 1380 presents a clever depiction of the Creation combined with prophesies of the coming of Christ." Unfortunately I cannot comment in detail on the Google Books reference apart from being able to confirm that it does indeed include Østofte Church. I have discovered that depending on where you access Google Books, you have different displays of the information, sometimes an entire chapter, sometimes just snippets. I did not include the reference myself as I cannot access more than snippets. The Historisk Atlas reference does not just contain maps but has various sections with explanatory text. The section on "Kalkmalerierne" which is on the right-hand side of the header states: "Kalkmalerierne er blandt de mest spændende af de middelalderlige kalkmalerier i vore kirker. Udsmykningen i korhvælvet er klart opdelt i tre niveauer, som i malerierne er adskildt med flerfarvede bånd." (The frescos are among the most exciting frescos from the Middle Ages in our churches. The decorations in the chancel vault are clearly divided into three levels separated from each other by multicolored bands.)
In my short article on Østofte Church, I also included a reference to a much longer mid-20th century Danish National Museum account of the church. Pages 857 to 860 include a detailed description of the frescos. I have now included the reference in the Nørreballe article too, specifying (as you suggested) which pages refer to the frescos.
If you are unhappy with sources in Danish, then there is a real problem. Indeed, the majority of articles I have written about the smaller Danish localities and their landmarks in recent months are based and referenced essentially on the basis of Danish-language sources. Google Translate sometimes produces usable translations but it frequently churns out garbage or misleading translations from Danish. Perhaps you could use it to see if appears to reflect my accounts (if you still feel the need). This is in fact the first time a DYK reviewer has questioned the validity of using Danish-language sources in articles about Denmark.
Thanks for your work, Ipigott. I'm in the Chicago area, so that might explain that different in book snippet accessibility (which I had no idea about-- I appreciate you alerting me to this!) Just to clarify, I never had an issue with the fact that the sources are in Danish (although I cannot read it). There is, of course, never a problem using non-English sources for a topic like this one. My main concern was that I could not access the atlas (at first) nor the snippet and was concerned about the ability of others to do so. Unfortunately, I was hoping for another editor to step forward to check things out, but I probably should have made that request more clear on the DYK nomination. I appreciate your legwork in providing me the information here and on the article itself, and I'm glad the DYK is on its way. Take care, I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 18:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Merz Apothecary
On 30 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Merz Apothecary, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Oprah caused a spike in online orders, valued at tens of thousands of dollars, for a specific bar of soap available on the Merz Apothecary website? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Merz Apothecary. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Proposed deletion of NorthSky Air needs to be reexamined as the airline is legitimate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marletbadeo (talk • contribs) 23:18, 2 July 2013
Sure, that sounds like an excellent plan. Send me an e-mail with their contact information at IJethrobot at gmail dot com. I'm shooting for sometime in October-- I'll see what dates work well with the library. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 07:11, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I think a Wikipedia Loves Libraries event would be more up my alley, also because my September will be more busy than October. Do you think suggestion by SarahPML (talk·contribs) for the Pritzker Military Library would be a suitable place? The caveats that I can foresee right now are that 1) There is a $5 entry fee to the library per [4], 2) Their hours are 10AM - 6PM on weekdays, 10AM - 4PM on Saturdays, and they are closed on Sundays; I work a 9-5 job outside of the city so getting back will be tough for weekdays and 3) I'm if editors will be interested in participating if we just focus on Military History topics. However, Howard Washington Library is just a short jaunt from the Pritzker, so we could start at the Pritzker for a bit as it does seem like a pretty impressive institution, and split up based on people's interests. What are your thoughts? I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 03:21, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Last year we almost had WLL at the Pritzker. I got discouraged by lack of turnout and cancelled. I encourage you to do whatever theme you think is likely to make the event a success. All the events I have hosted have been on weekends.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 04:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Jet ........ I added some information to the article entitled "Kilmainham." This was deleted by Singularity42. I also put up an new article on Saint Maighneann.This never appeared. I am the editor of a site Inchicore.info and I have taken some my own material from that site to add it to these two articles. I quoted the original sources (books) from which I obtained the scholarly information in the first place.
The result is that the present article on Kilmainham is a disgrace and does much to confirm the widespread notion that Wikipedia is a very poor source of information.
The question is; How can an article be written accurately without using any of the words or phrases in the original source material ..and.... without misleading the reader? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msriposte (talk • contribs) 08:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Well, let me ask you a question first. What is worse: An article that is considered a poor source of information or a copyright violation that could potentially mean a lawsuit for the Wikimedia Foundation from the copyright owner of the text material? You cannot copy text into Wikipedia from copyright sources, period, because we don't have permission. So, to answer your question, you need to make the effort to summarize the content as best you can in your own words. I would suggest reading this guide on how to do so. And if you want to show me a draft of your additions/changes in your user sandbox, I'd be happy to check it out before you make changes. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 08:13, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Saint Maighneann
Hi! Jet ...... thanks for your attention so far ..... can you assist me in putting a page with some information(however scant) about Saint Maighneann that enables me put publish my painting of Saint Maighneann which I have already donated to Wiki Commons. Msriposte (talk) 09:22, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
There is absolutely no reason why improvements can't be made to the version with my contributions if that is what the project wants. I have no problem with your revert and will not challenge it of course.--Mark17:52, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Mark-- another reason I reverted is because I think your contributions are overwhelmingly positive and saw no concerns that those changes in particular were taking the project in a direction that folks disagreed with. I think WP:WER has some soul searching to do, but I think that deals more with the types of discussions happening there more than the main page itself. On another note, I don't know the full extent of the frustrations you are facing, but I do know it usually feels pretty awful when it feels like there is nothing to be done. I think some of these feelings pass with time, but if yours do not, that's fine too. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
RE speedy deletion tags
I am new to this kind of thing and attempting to work on new pages too. I am wondering though if some of your speedy deletion tags aren't being put up rather quickly. I saw the one about the womens soccer team and almost immediately you put the tag on it. Just curious. I left a note on the talk page but thought I would come and ask you directly I thought we were supposed to give time for them to actually add some content before tagging it. Tattoodwaitress♥LetsTalk21:41, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I agree that I was mistaken. I admit that I am sometimes a bit hasty in tagging articles for speedy deletion. However, in my defense, it is fairly common for new editors to leave articles in substantially unfinished states with the expectation that someone else will come along and improve them. Or they find the interface too difficult to work with and abandon the draft in the mainspace. Or they just forget. New editors are also reminded at the top of new pages with the following
When creating an article, provide references to reliable published sources. An article without references, especially a biography of a living person, may be deleted.
You can also start your new article at Special:Mypage/ARTICLENAME. There, you can develop the article with less risk of deletion, ask other editors to help work on it, and move it into "article space" when it is ready.
Oh ok. Thank you, I understand. I did go to the editors contribs and saw that there was another article created about the same type of topic so I just thought maybe they would add some more content is all. Thank you for the information above. Tattoodwaitress♥LetsTalk21:55, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
re; Saint Maighneann again
Hi! Jet I did as you asked and put up a freshly written article on Saint Maighneann........ I'm still have problems with it could you help out ..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msriposte (talk • contribs) 10:28, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
I've made my additions and added several sources, and have moved the article to the mainspace. I also decided it was best to remove the image you added of Saint Maighneann because it's probably best to remove the large black border around the image and your signature in the image (attribution can be described on the file page itself). I also want to echo the concern expressed by PrimeHunter (talk·contribs) that even if no other images of the subject exist or you cannot access them (I have been unable to find any), it does not necessarily mean an image you create should be used, particularly because we cannot verify the accuracy of your representation. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 20:14, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your help Jet .. greatly appreciated.... very happy with the article ... but sure would have liked to have the only image of Saint Maighneann included. Slán is Beannacht.Msriposte (talk) 23:17, 12 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msriposte (talk • contribs) 23:02, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Time-challenged
I rewrote the article so it’s easier to read. Time-challenged has a particular spelling. It means having too little time. Too little time does not mean wasting time; it means actual lack of time from paranormally short time, imminent tornado, darkness, etc. There is no original research or synthesis of sourced material in the article. I'll put this comment on the deletion discussion page also-Truexper (talk) 21:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
teahouse thread:Is there a public place for editor commendations/recommendations?
Hi, JB! It appears I inadvertently opened a big can of worms. User:Keri redacted the entire above named section earlier today. I replaced it and left her a note telling her that disruptive edits were generally hatted at the teahouse, unless there was a case of WP:OUT or WP:NPA. I really didn't know the history of the OP in the thread, and I still do not see as it matters. I absolutely do not see any disruption in the thread, except for keri's redaction and eric corbett's reaction. The newbie did nothing wrong! Apparently, there is history between the guy and User:Eric Corbett, who eventually bit my head of in the thread, accusing me of personally attacking him. It should be noted that NOWHERE in the thread was anyone's name mentioned, until corbett himself stepped up after I had put it back and said it was him the guy was talking about.
To put it mildly, I am pissed. Keri came back and redacted the OP's entries in the thread again as personal attacks (how is something that mentions no names ever personal?). As you are the matrie 'd at this time (sorry), I figured it should be you that figured this out. I am on record elsewhere for feeling that this idea of walking on eggs with "prolific content creators" is for the birds. No one is irreplaceable. we will all die someday and if we continue to let the likes of the aforementioned scare off new users, there will be no one left to carry on.
Feel free to do what you will, even if it is nothing. I am at a loss, and really tired of bullshit. This newbie writes well, asks intelligent questions and IS NEW! The mission at teahouse is to help him, not massage the ego's of the eric corbett's in the community. Peace be with you. Gtwfan52 (talk) 22:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I saw your post earlier on their talk page-- turned out to be a much bigger deal by the looks of it. Thanks for notifying me and I will check it out, though this might require an administrator depending on the circumstances. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 23:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I've hatted the discussion without the redacted comments and talked to FGuerino. The drama just got escalated a bit too far on this one. I'm sorry this was frustrating, but as we say here often, it's time to move on. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 00:44, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
@Gtwfan52, thanks again for being a gentleman about all of this, and for the kind words. I honestly believe people like you are the bright spot in all of this. --My Best, --FGuerino (talk) 02:25, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi I Jethrobot, I came to this page because I saw a note at the end of your signature that said "Drop me a line." I checked some of your other posts and didn't see the same note so I assumed that you wanted me to come to your talk page and discuss this issue. Before I get into discussion with you, here, I just wanted to be sure that this is what you intended. Is this a correct interpretation? If not, I apologize and could you please clarify where the correct place is to engage and discuss the issue with you? -- My Best, Frank --FGuerino (talk) 02:25, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
FGuerino. That is just part of his signature. But like most good editors, I am sure JB will be happy to discuss things with you. BTW, please don't take what happened at the Teahouse as some indication I am taking a side in your dispute with Eric. Far from it. I do not know nor do I want to know about it. I was simply defending the thread, which I thought you handled just fine, and trying to support the goal of the Teahouse, to help newer users. Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:31, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
As Gtwfan said, that's just a phrase that directs you to my talk page (I think it is on all of my signatures, actually...where did you find it without?) It's probably better if we stick to your talk page since my initial comment is over there. (See Don't lose the thread). I'll be watching your talk page, don't worry. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 02:35, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Gtwfan52, I understand and don't expect you to take sides or imply that you should, but you did say some kind and supportive things about me to others and I do appreciate that. Thanks again. -- My Best, --FGuerino (talk) 03:24, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
@I, Jethrobot, I apologize for the confusion as I went through some of your contributions to research how you handle people before responding, just to get a sense of whether you were consistently civil or not. Apparently, I misread or misinterpreted your signature somewhere and thought you meant to come to your talk page. My apologies. I'm just very exhausted from three nights of very little sleep so please forgive the mistake. I'll take the time to respond to your post on my talk page, sometime tomorrow, when I can think straight and discuss the topic with a bit more clarity. -- My Best, Frank --FGuerino (talk) 03:24, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Chicago Meetup
Hey Jethrobot, I saw your announcement about an upcoming Chicago meetup and that the PML was an option for hosting it. I'm currently talking to them about starting a Wikipedian-in-residence program there, and this would be a totally fun event to host. I could mention it when I go to meet the director this week if you're interested! Best, Keilana|Parlez ici08:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Keilana-- that sounds fantastic! I know that SarahPML (talk·contribs) who was working at the Pritzker, was interested in having an event hosted. She contacted me in this thread saying she would put me in contact with the Chief Librarian, but I haven't yet heard from anyone yet. I think she may have only been working there over the summer, and was trying to get an event started around then. When will you be going to the Pritzker? Perhaps I could meet you there this week? I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 13:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes, as far as I know Sarah has finished her summer internship. I'm going Wednesday, I can ask then and see if they're interested, and then maybe you and I could meet with them in a couple weeks? I'm moving on Sunday (back to Loyola, yay!) so I may be super busy next week. Keilana|Parlez ici16:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Sounds like a plan, and thanks a great deal for your help. Let me know on Wednesday or Thursday what their interest is in the matter. Though, are you sure you wouldn't rather I join you this week (my Wednesday evening is free) in case moving in keeps you tied up? Setting up Wikipedians at libraries is also an initiative that I'm interested in helping coordinate. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 16:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Is your Wednesday morning free? We're meeting mid-morning. I definitely want you involved in all of this if you're interested because we desperately need a GLAM program in Chicago and I don't think either of us could do it alone. I would love to get coffee/tea/food wither Wednesday or as soon as I'm all settled and talk about more things to do in Chicago! :) Keilana|Parlez ici18:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
After pulling a few favors, it's free now! Shall we meet Wednesday AM somewhere downtown close to the PML beforehand? If you have a place in mind, why don't you e-mail me and we can figure things out from there. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 18:22, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
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Let's just say that, in spite of my user and talkpage notices, I've actually given it a lot of thought and talked with several people about it over the past two years. I think the tipping point for me is that I'm heavily involved in CSD and NPP-- when new editors first see my username, it's when is that I put templates on their article and user talk pages. There's so much stuff there, they may not even bother to read all of it, let alone my entire signature. They may just assume I'm some automatic thing doing it (particularly if they've dealt with ClueBot NG already.)
I also didn't know this is what I would be doing a lot of when I started that RfC, and I've never had a new user step forward to tell me they were confused about my name. But by doing this, I don't have to wonder about it anymore. I'm at the point where changing my name, particularly so slightly, isn't really a big deal for me. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 13:09, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Where did you see that, if I might ask? Also, I never really had to change it per this RfC. I decided to do it for the reasons above. Only once in the two years since that RfC has any editor actually expressed confusion/concern about my username. I, JethroBTdrop me a line20:02, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Jeth, I am working on getting some picts for Wikipedia with Anna frodesiak, but I need an external favour from you. Can you access please here click me!, and search for the Vertigo Tour category and the click on an image of the band and post the link here?? Please... :)Miss Bono [zootalk]13:17, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I see. This photo is one good shot of the band. Many of the other photos are of Bono only or include photos of other performing bands. Keep in mind that these photos are probably not OK to use on Wikipedia unless you get the copyright holder (in this case, probably legal representatives of U2) to release them under a free Creative Commons license. I don't think that is actually likely to happen, so what is your and Anna's plan? I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 15:59, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Sure. The photo is the band performing on stage during their Vertigo tour in 2005 with an image projected behind them of the album cover art from Boy. There is minimal but focused lighting on the band, and Bono is striking a flashy pose. Everyone is wearing black. The location of the performance is not given. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:09, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry Jeth I haven't reply earlier I was having lunch. i cannot see the picture. Can you see in the Zoo TV section the picture where Bono has a belly dancer in front of him. That's the girl we are looking a picture for. Give me a link. Anna will write to the picture owner. Miss Bono [zootalk]16:35, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
That's fine. I cannot find a photo matching your description on the Zoo TV gallery (nor the Achtung Baby gallery you mentioned earlier). Would it be in another gallery? I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 16:45, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Zoo TV Gallery. It's a black and white picture, Bono is with these shades. He is kneeling and extending an arm. If you can post here the name of the categories I probably could tell you which one could heve the picture in. Miss Bono [zootalk]16:48, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks very much! I will give the link to Anna. She lives in China, so I don't know if she can access that page. Just in case, write down some info you find there of the picture's owner, so then you could email it to Anna for further work :) Thanks, really... Thank you very much for your help. I left some message for you up there ↑. it's a question with a link. Miss Bono [zootalk]17:10, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
There was already an RFC on the matter which is at the top of the page in large, friendly letters. Also, I find it very peculiar that this comment comes my way from an editor who is definitely not new just after I made a username request of my own volition at WP:CHU/S, not to mention I had just mentioned that it was never brought to my attention these past two years after the RfC. Can I ask that you explain what I said or did that caused you to believe I was a bot? My signature clearly states the contrary. I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 15:51, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I Jethrobot, believe it or not, but I have not visited any of the pages you refer to. I came across your username by coincidence and from what I made of it I Jethrobot, this confused me, because you could of course have said "Me Jethrobot", but that wouldn't be an ideal name either I guess. The thing is, usernames with the -bot- in it confuse me all the time. Hope this answers your question. :-) Lotje (talk) 17:08, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Well, it's a nickname and it's a play off of this novel. I actually sort of like Me Jethrobot-- it makes me laugh! In any case, at some point whenever they clear out the backlog at WP:CHU/S, you'll have one less -bot username to worry about. : ) I, Jethrobotdrop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:11, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't think I'll come back. I suck in Wikipedia, I cannot make descent edits or contributions because of my lack of Internet access... and that's only going to change if I go to another country :'( I will miss you more than you could ever imagine. Miss Bono [zootalk]13:14, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi JethroBT, thanks a lot for your prompt answer. I will see what I can do. I can read French no problem and I will see with the other languages through your suggestions. Thanks for your help again, until the next time! Itcheemonkee (talk) 16:42, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
On 31 August 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Yatai-bayashi, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that because taiko group Ondekoza could not replicate the rhythms in the original version of Yatai-bayashi, they actually played it faster? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yatai-bayashi. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivan Drago You should've just said keep, no need to mention "No prejudice against future merge/redirect discussion, which should take place on the talk page" since that only encourages people to have the exact same discussion over again with less people able to notice what they are up to. Eight keeps, one redirect, and the nominator wanted delete. Should have great prejudice against future merge/redirect discussions. DreamFocus09:21, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Two comments. 1) There was a clear consensus to keep, but some of those keeps were rather weak. Keep rationales such as, "I feel sure there is scholarly commentary" without providing sources, "Looks well known in movies", WP:ITSA-type arguments, and "If this gets deleted, so should Clubber Lang" (i.e. WP:ALLORNOTHING) were not particularly compelling. 2) More importantly, the keeps were in the context of an AfD. IMO, this was the wrong venue to have the discussion based on the rationale, and because of that, the idea of merging or redirecting was not really discussed except by Masem (talk·contribs) and, to some extent, the nominator. Compared to keep/delete arguments, mergers rarely get discussed or supported in AfD. I think Masem brings up some good points that were not challenged, so I see nothing wrong with encouraging that discussion to continue to its end. I, JethroBTdrop me a line17:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you; DF, the reason to point out the possibility of a merge is that without it, any attempt to merge would be immediately shot down by some editors pointing to the AFD says "even the closer didn't say anything about a merge! we must keep separate!" Jethro's decision to close as keep with merge option is pretty much the conservative option, and allows a proper merge discussion to take place (as I have already). --MASEM (t) 18:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
See how pointless this is? He didn't get the result he wanted in the AFD, so he tries again with a new discussion, just wasting everyone's time. The outcome will be the same. The rationale you need in an AFD is not needed in a Merge discussion by the way. DreamFocus19:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Your expectations about the outcome are not relevant. Let it run its course so that an actual consensus about merge (not deletion) can be established. It's a completely different conversation. You can call it a waste of time all you like, but there is nothing wrong with discussing a legitimate and good-faith idea. Your accusation that Masem began the discussion because he didn't get what he wanted is also completely unwarranted and neglects his rationale. I, JethroBTdrop me a line20:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
The same people are involved, then it'll be the same results. Making everyone repeat what they said is just a waste of time. My "expectations" are just common sense fact. There is no chance of this ending any other way. DreamFocus20:58, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Richard France
Thanks for your notice.
I'm not sure what else I can do. I've made all the changes to the Richard France article I can make without more specific direction as to what's missing.
Thank you, JethroBT! Please let me know what to do; I haven't seen your edits, nor do I know how to gain access to them and the improved article so that I can resubmit it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filmian (talk • contribs) 23:52, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I've added sources that were requested in the last review of your article. The article can be found here. Please hit "resubmit" at the top of the article. Also, please be sure that whenever you use talk pages like this one, please sign your name at the end of your comments using four tildes like this: ~~~~ I, JethroBTdrop me a line00:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
I have created this page. I am authorized by World Marketing Summit to create this page on Wikipedia, being one of their directors. You can confirm by writing to me on sadia@worldmarketingsummit.org or my colleague at 'info@worldmarketingsummit.org'. You will find World Marketing Summit's reference on www.pkotler.org (http://www.pkotler.org/thailand-to-consider-hosting-world-marketing-summit-2014/) & on his Wikipedia page managed by me (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Kotler) under Honorary Titles.
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Hi Sadia-- given what you have told me, you are in a conflict of interest, and I'd recommend not editing the article any further. There is a good reason we do not allow directors or other employees write an article about their own place of employment, specifically that it is difficult to write about one's own company in a neutral and non-promotional tone. Wikipedia is not a project intended to promote organization / events, and your intent to copy-paste content (even if you authorize it) from the organization's website is not within the scope of Wikipedia's aims as an encyclopedia. I encourage you to find another set of topics to improve upon rather than something you are intimately and financially involved with. I, JethroBTdrop me a line07:49, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
World Marketing Summit
Dear JB
Thanks for your message. Can you please remove World Marketing Summit Page or please let me know how can I delete it?
