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Andy GrayHi Huon. Thanks ever so much for your reply to my questions Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Andy Gray (journalist). From what you say the photo I have is free from British Copyright and can be used freely as it has nothing to do with the USA. I have no conflict, only met Andy once decades ago as I live across the Atlantic from him. My father only knew him as a child as he was a half brother that returned to Scotland to be raised by the Grays when he was 13 years old and my father was 7, then they only kept in touch very little. Your link to the Google News Archive only brought up Andy Gray, the footballer, but if you add New Musical Express it actually brings up a lot more then I have found in the past. Google News archive Do you see any of the verifable references you are looking for there. I also have this link to music Professor Thompsons, Skidmore College listing of back issues of NME and if you select July 1957 and later you will find all sorts of articles written by Andy Gray, so I guess his writing is being referenced in college courses of rock history. NME Contents 1953-1969 JasMor (talk) 06:26, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Article reviewDear Huon! Thanks for your help and advice on how to improve my article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Sergey_Shishkarev. I've sent it for review but it's taking ages. You said that you might take a look and approve (or suggest some other improvements i should make) it. Sorry for botherign you, but could you do look at it plz? Key157 (talk) 15:02, 17 November 2012 (UTC) Thanks for Help deskDear Huon, Thanks very much for your help on Helpdesk (AfC Martha Harris). I followed your advice as far as possible (given the information I have been given about the topic). I then moved it to article space as the AfC page is so backlogged. Hopefully there should be no major problems though it is difficult at this distance in time to find newspaper references, especially since this particular area of mental health was relatively new at that period; however others may be able to add more documentation in the future. Merlinwan (talk) 12:11, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. I took a look at that article - it is about a specific Froebel college in Ireland. There are quite a lot of them, all based on the methods of Friedrich Froebel (or Fröbel). Harris went to one in London. Perhaps there could be a link to the Wikipedia article on Froebel himself - Friedrich Fröbel. Merlinwan (talk) 15:33, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
The relevance of the link is to Froebel's educational principles and methods regarding the education of young children. It is a significant aspect of the background to the method of training of child psychotherapists that Harris was involved in. Certainly more could be added but at the expense of lengthening the article. I think the interested reader can work out the association for themselves. Froebel is well known in all fields connected with young children and 'Froebel College' designates a particular type of teacher-training institution, with particular aims and methods, not just an employer.Merlinwan (talk) 18:34, 19 November 2012 (UTC) RE: the Nora Newcombe pageThank you very much Huon for your very fast response. I appreciate it greatly. Also, thank you for your kind comments about my draft. All the Best, 165.124.164.60 (talk) 22:18, 20 November 2012 (UTC)Jennnu
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How many days I have to wait more?My submission for creating article "District 187: Sin Streets" is not in the help desk list(:confused:??!!) and still waiting for reviewing.I need help.What's going on??Arghya Roy (talk) 17:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Edited, thank you.Arghya Roy (talk) 02:13, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
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HiThanks for informing about User:TheWesternWorld. Is it possible that I can report the user for sending me an abusive personal message telling me to go kill myself for being a retarded piece of shit?--Mjs1991 (talk) 03:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Need urgent helpplz help at [1]Arghya Roy (talk) 17:17, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
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Editor reviewI've started an editor review on myself at Wikipedia:Editor review/Ritchie333. As I've mentioned you by name in the review, your feedback would be appreciated. --Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:29, 4 December 2012 (UTC) Disambiguation link notification for December 6Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited District 187: Sin Streets, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page ATI (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 11:28, 6 December 2012 (UTC) Thanks so much, Huon, for your help with my question about Articles for Creation/Susan Branch and for your edits. Great comments and they are much appreciated! Editwriter98 Editwriter98 (talk) 02:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
AghadaPlease revert the changes made on the Aghada page back to what it originaly was, thanks for your co-operation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.243.169 (talk) 15:08, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Please revert it to the way it was before you started editing it, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.243.169 (talk) 18:31, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Can i ask you a question? Why does this meen so much to you? It matters a whole god damn lot to us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.255.188 (talk) 21:23, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes they are correct and besides your not even from Ireland, what right do you have to interfere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.255.188 (talk) 11:55, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
What is your question for me?Hi Huon. I have a message that you have a message for me on this page, but I do not see it. What is it? Thanks, Steve {tigertwice] Tigertwice (talk) 21:19, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Tidying upAfter all the discussions at the Jesus talk page, I think [3] will most likely be my last edit of substance regarding historicity. I think I have now added sources for almost all issues I can think of, or find. The 1 Thessalonians 2:14 item was the last missing piece I think. As you know, the Historicity of Jesus and Historical Jesus are pretty complete now, and pretty stable. Josephus, Tacitus and Mara Bar-Serapion on Jesus are also in good shape, and fully sourced. I think one of the most fun items was explaining that a person born in 1380 could not have manufactured a document that was used in 1374!. That was fun. So, anyway, I think this will hopefully be the last page I have to build - but it was necessary for this, a page that may also need long term attention. But now, it is done. After Christmas I will really be slowing down. I know this has sounded like the "next good by forever concert" that many people sell tickets for, but in all cases, there is a last good by forever concert. Anyway, Merry Christmas in advance. History2007 (talk) 22:27, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
By the way I used the wrong link above. It is this.... I eventually managed to clean up most of the sources there. History2007 (talk) 17:54, 13 December 2012 (UTC) Further on the "Bruce Mann (oncologist)" pageHi Huon -- very grateful for your help on the title question, and I've put in proper citations for the article, per your comment. But I'm still completely confused about how to post a simple photo on this page. I just want to post one simple portrait shot of Prof Mann, partly to help distinguish him from the other Prof Mann at Harvard. I found a nice plain portrait photo of Mann (oncologist) posted on the Parkville Surgery website, which appears to be his private practice with another surgeon: http://www.parkvillesurgery.com.au/bruce_mann.html I also see this same photo reproduced elsewhere, for conference bulletins, etc.: e.g., www.abcs2012.org -- so it seems to be floating about anyway and I'm sure it would only be helpful if it appeared on his Wikipedia page. But I don't know what kind of license might be involved with a photo like this -- no license is posted anywhere -- whether "fair use" applies, or how to get it up on the page, whether as a draft aticle or an accepted one. I uploaded it to Wiki Commons in good faith, but got a message back about "licence" and "template" that was completely baffling, and the Wiki Commons help page to which I was directed was utterly overwhelming and even more baffling. I'm frustrated and ready to give up on posting this one lousy simple already-out-there photo - hope you can help! -- Tafkira2 (talk) 07:00, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, Huon, I'll look around for the kinds of discussion of him you describe, although it's a little confusing here. I understand what you mean about third-party sources confirming the importance of someone and their standing to comprise a Wikipedia article -- especially looking at the proposed article names now cramming the backlog. But I think the citations I provide independently indicate Mann's stature as one of the most eminent medical professionals in Australia. The Royal Melbourne Hospital and the Royal Women's Hospitals, where he heads the cancer service, are massive public institutions and simply to hold such a job is a major testament to someone's importance. E.g., if someone were the mayor of a city, would I have to find articles talking about that mayor or isn't it sufficient to list the fact that s/he is mayor? All the other citations except Parkville Surgery are independent of Mann, including the University, so their having appointed him or citing him in these roles is substantial recognition in itself in these fields. For example, his serving for two years as president of COSA, Australia's leading national association of medical professionals on cancer, should in itself, I'd think, bear testament to his "notoriety". A CV like this stands on its own, no? I certainly sourced his position in all these roles. ??? Tafkira2 (talk) 19:29, 13 December 2012 (UTC) Edits to Effective GivingRegarding your suggestions for improvement to Effective Giving, the original authors did not make any changes, so I took it upon myself to significantly rework this article. I think I have addressed a lot of your concerns. Would you be able to have a look and re-evaluate the article? Thanks. Ianlavoie (talk) 03:14, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello Huon, thanks for your help on the helpdesk yesterday, I've changed the sources and submitted! (Thanks also for clearing up submitting/review procedure) Regards, Maxcatterall (talk) 11:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Help with Creation of Page for William Casey KingHi Huon, You were very helpful with my most recent attempts to get the page for William Casey King created. I added some secondary sources to demonstrate "notability" as per your suggestions, and omitted several portions of the article that alluded to book reviews chosen by the publisher. For one of his books, I included a citation to a review in the Washington Post, and the second book will likely be reviewed when it actually is published in 2013. I also included an NPR radio appearance in the sources indicating that King was a guest on a certain date. Do you have any idea how I can speed up the review process at this point? Your help is greatly appreciated!Kittythedog (talk) 18:53, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Kittythedog
Okay--I can be patient. Thanks so much and have a nice holiday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kittythedog (talk • contribs) 21:07, 21 December 2012 (UTC) Huon, hello there. I made even more changes and added more links to more third party sources...I just cannot find the "submit for review" icon. Am I crazy?Kittythedog (talk) 03:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Kittythedog
Again, proving yourself mighty helpful! thanks a bunch! 98.229.82.28 (talk) 23:31, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Kittythedog ...
About redirect requestsWhy IP adresses ask for redirections like this (Redirect request: [[ ]]). I think this kind of IP adresses should be banned from editing. What's your opinion?--Pratyya (have a chat?) 04:54, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
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Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Please Read ThisPlease give correct reference for Zardari sect. The link you have provided doesnot contain that information. View these images Image1 and Image2. He is praying behind Sunni Imam in Sunni style. Abdullah of Saudi Arabia belongs to Wahhabi sect but it is not a complete Religion it is a sect. Thats why we should not specify sect in its religion. If you are changing Zardari Religion to Shia then change Abdullah of Saudi Arabia Religion to Wahhabi also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpidErxD (talk • contribs) 04:20, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for your helpi am looking out reference links for better citation, i will try to improve article with better grammar. Happy New Year, Huon Pratyya (Happy New Year) — is wishing you a Happy New Year! Welcome the 2024. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! May the 2024 goes well for you. Spread the New Year cheer by adding {{subst:User:Pratyya Ghosh/Happy New Year}} to their talk page with a Happy New Year message. Pending changesNow that you have seen what the IP 79.230.105.7 and the one before him are doing, I think PC is a good idea. I am not sure where/how one gets it? Any ideas? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 22:07, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Merger of this episode article is proposed. --George Ho (talk) 07:15, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for your patience & edits on my AfC 12-14-12 "UC Software"Dear Huon, Thank you very much for spending so much time and effort reviewing my draft article (UrbanCode Software re-directed from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MEMarraMA/draft_article_UC; and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/UrbanCode_Software) which was previously declined for publication. I did not understand the specific grounds for rejection (primary sources; non-notable references; non-neutral pov; use of "peacock" terms) but not because I'm clueless. I did read all the WP Help Articles before I started researching and writing. I saw all those terms defined. And I was certain I was not committing any of those writing crimes. Ha! I was also quite proud of my summary re-writes of certain trend events in the computer software development industry ... because I summarized and cited primary sources and I wrote it in plain old English. I thought I did a much better job than the trend / concept definitions I found on Wikipedia. Quelle hubris. After reading your point-by-point review, I now get it. "Yep, that IS original synthesis." Duh. I know I'm "on to something" along the lines of what fiction writer William Gibson (who published the term cyberspace in his 1982 novella Neuromancer) called Steam Engine Time. Interview William Gibson in Wired Steam-driven gizmos popped up in ancient Greece and China, and in half a dozen different cultures and regions before the early 1800s. But one guy (Fulton) demo'd first in France and then in the U.S. using a steam engine to push boats around on water. In 1803. So, is Fulton really the inventor? Gibson knew he wasn't the only one imagining cyberspace in the early 1980s; he just got to the gate first, with a fully imagined Internet-like linked fictional world. And he had wider distribution -- science fiction buffs -- than other computer geeks who wrote. Similarly, both the concept and the means to continuously and automatically integrate changes in software program codes hit a tipping point in the early 2000s. Only a couple developers got to the gate first; two of them were photo finishers (within a nose) and both those "horses" released their big idea for FREE (open source), a business model Robert Fulton never used. (Fulton got a navigation monopoly on the Hudson River in 1808. So much for open source.) THAT is where I made my "not encyclopedia-ready" errors: I established the history and trends from original sources and then slid right into highlighting the developers/companies who did it first. Original synthesis, indeed. That statement on WP Help Pages -- You are not establishing notability in a Wikipedia article; you only summarize and cite those conclusions from notable secondary sources (paraphrase) -- should probably be boldfaced. WP's editorial dislike of boldfacing notwithstanding. Thank you, again, Huon for your time, patience and for being specific on what went wrong with my draft article. I bet it's only the 10,000th time it has come up at the Help Desk. LAST -- I'm going to attack this again. Obviously my current draft is not "edit-able" or "tweakable." Should I (1) Set up another page in my name space with the same title? I'm not sure what that does to re-directs and history of the first draft. (2) Should I use the code I saw somewhere on "Creating Wikipedia Articles" -- a code in braces that basically says: I'm working on this so don't speedy delete it, please? MEMarraMA (talk) 21:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
NLPJust a heads up Houn. Please be aware of who you are working with [4]. Also be careful who you might end up being associated with. You might want to back off the NLP article for now. There have been some fairly ridiculous block related activities there recently[5]. On reflection its understandable why you exhibit such ignorance about NLP. Its a complex subject. Best leave it up to the experts. With respect. LTMem (talk) 02:08, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
What happens if I added a coat of arms in the religous symbols sectionWhy you said that's it in the talk page. What's that mean. And if I added coat of arms with no religious symbols.Am I gonna get blocked? 99.229.41.79 (talk) 02:56, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Please read the new answer on the Help DeskDear Huon, you helped me very much with my page. I just want you to notice the new comment to my question. Here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2012_December_28#Review_of_Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation.2FEXNESS Happy New Year to you! Julia.tretyakova (talk) 07:33, 10 January 2013 (UTC) Julia Thanksthanks. Who are you please? Would you like to participate in the lovely discussion on the medical uses of silver?Ryanspir (talk) 20:29, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
good ideawell, thanks. That is the reason i have invited you to join the discussion about silver.. :) Ryanspir (talk) 19:47, 12 January 2013 (UTC) Your comments & advice is appreciated, thank you!Thanks Huon! I'm trying the best I can to negotiate lots of slippery slopes on this page. Original Synth vs Copy n Paste from websites, just to mention one. Now I've made a little cluster, with multiple AfC pages on the same proposed subject, and as you noted my Sandbox is indeed now empty and there appears to be redirects in all directions! Of course, now advised edits & source additions are on different pages. :( I just moved all the edits to the proper page... any chance you can remove or mothball the duplicate page? If you were able to link to your comments in the Help Desk, that is acceptable to me... I am trying to address accordingly.... but it is similar to having a discussion of Steve Jobs and Apple, they are almost inseparable, and the same is true within my topic; Founder, technology, company. Thank you! Borealdreams (talk) 00:29, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
First of all, other problematic articles exist, and the one on Martin A. Uman is hardly a shining example of what a Wikipedia article should be. For now I've tagged it as unreferenced; If we cannot find reliable, independent sources confirming that article's content, we may have to delete it. Regarding Lightning Eliminators & Consultants, I'd say there are two somewhat related problems: Firstly, some content is simply off-topic for an article on the company. There's no need to discuss the science behind point discharge in that article; it should suffice to state that LEC's products are based on point discharge and provide a link to a more relevant article that deals with the science and engineering behind that concept. After all, the best understanding of the science behind point discharge won't really improve our understanding of the company itself. Much more helpful would be (sourced) information on, say, the company's revenues and profits, or their Similarly, there's hardly a need to mention Ben Franklin in the company article, and who bought LEA is irrelevant to LEC, isn't it? The other issue is original synthesis: For example, Carpenter's NASA career may well be relevant to the company he founded, but to make that inference, we need a secondary source. We cannot just use a secondary source for his NASA career and one for his founding of the company and draw the inference ourselves. The draft explicitly claims "This planted a seed in Carpenter's head" - says who? Judging by his NASA-era papers, his work for them wasn't lightning-related at all. Luckily the Boulder County Business Report explicitly draws a connection between Carpenter's NASA work and the founding of the company, so we can use that as a source. I'm not sure I understand your pen tracheotomy example, but without a secondary source mentioning the fact, we shouldn't mention pens in the tracheotomy article nor vice versa. I'd say that's simply not a significant fact about either pens or tracheotomies. Similarly, if no secondary source mentioned Carpenter's NASA career in connection to LEC, we would have to conclude that it probably wasn't that important an influence on the company. Now we shouldn't simply copy and paste what sources say about the company either, but the sources - not our inferences - should form the basis of our content. For example, one of the sources discussed in debth a LEC project in Chad and another the Browns Ferry Nuclear Plant - those might serve to add a section on "notable projects" or something like that. Or we could cite the Boulder County Business Report for the price of a LEC installation. We do have sources that provide many relevant details, but we don't make the best use of them. Huon (talk) 03:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
that's the type of stuff that gets "slipped" in to prove credibility. Sadly that's the state of affairs within the field of lightning & lightning protection. The gist is, if Franklin said it 250 years ago, it is absolute truth.... like the 2nd Amendment debate to be honest. Anywho... making progress on the lightning page! :) About to get below 10k on the plane, gotta get b4 wifi kicks off! Borealdreams (talk) 23:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello once again!I've been working on some big things & getting somewhere :) Lightning page revisions. Feel free to stop by and have a look. Borealdreams (talk) 00:35, 16 March 2013 (UTC) Bradly Manning navtemplateHello Huron: Last month you commented on the Bradley Manning navigation template. {{Bradley Manning}}. I have posted it for deletion at: WP:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_January_9#Template:Bradley_Manning. Please comment. Thanks.--S. Rich (talk) 02:01, 15 January 2013 (UTC) Original research issue back againHi Huon, I was just poodling around the various articles which have been created/deleted/reincarnated in the New Testament origins area and came across this from January 2012. January 2013 and the same editors are looking at the deleted-recreated Hebrew (Aramaic) Gospel. The actual talk is on Talk:Gospel of the Hebrews. I hadn't informed you because I'd forgotten about the link above. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:00, 18 January 2013 (UTC) Dennis AylingHi Huon, I see you've added a verification failed notice to the article I submitted on my father Dennis Ayling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ayling). As a new contributor, could you please offer me some guidance as to what I should do to correct this? Many thanks, Tim Ayling (talk) 19:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Huon. If you look again at the statement on the government site that you sent me you'll see that it's referring to requests for records from people who do not have the permission of the deceased service person's next of kin. In my case, as I am my father's next of kin, they sent me a copy, on request, of his full service record which details every RAF and RCAF squadron he was with from 1940-1946, with dates, names of RAF bases etc. His RAF occupation is listed as photographer, and in addition to photographic reconnaissance work he has citations for press photography (so no, not covering events from the air). One of your editors suggest I site this service record as the source of my statement. I also have the photographs that he took of the Japanese surrender next to me on my desk as I write. However, I will not be able to provide a source that you can use to verify this statement in the way that you want. All I was trying to do with this article was round out the information you already have on Wikipedia where Dad is referred to by name, so I decided to write the most basic biography. I have seen many biographies of his peers that seem to have no citations at all (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Thomson_%28cinematographer%29), so I didn't realise my submission would be so problematic. I also find it hard dealing with so many editors all at once who have such differing opinions on submissions. One told me that IMDb isn't a reliable source, and then another added a filmography to this article based on Dad's IMDb page. If we were going to be really strict all we can actually verify is that someone called Dennis Ayling (and even that is problematic as his name was misspelled in the credits for 'Alien' as Denys Ayling) won an academy award for best visual effects - nothing else is verifiable in the way that you want and then the whole article comes down, which would seem to me to be somewhat excessive. I have no need to make any of this up, and I am not making any great claims on his behalf, like he took out a whole batallion single-handedly - just that he took some press photos of an important formal surrender (http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib/51/media-51244/mid.jpg).I understand that you are being thorough, so I respect any decision you take on what you feel needs to be removed. Tim Ayling (talk) 09:17, 19 January 2013 (UTC) p.s. An editor, who is now on sabbatical, has made a further change to my article as he takes issue with me saying that Dad won an academy award and asserts that the movie won it. Would you be prepared to comment on this. I think it's a ludicrous assertion to make. Tim Ayling (talk) 09:42, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Okay, well I guess you'd better take that sentence out and it looks as if perhaps the whole paragraph should go as I have no sources to verify what I say about his career either. One of your editors added the filmography which they have clearly taken from IMDb, so should that come out as well, as I am told it's an unreliable source? Also, I have just added in his birth and death dates, but they're not verifiable other than in official birth and death certificates. Should they come out too? There's so little left now, it hardly seems worth having the page, so maybe you'd better delete it? Tim Ayling (talk) 17:35, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
To be honest with you Huon, I couldn't care less at this point and you can all do whatever you like with the article. I've got better things to do with my time than get tied up with all of the insane pedantry that exists behind this site. Tim Ayling (talk) 18:41, 19 January 2013 (UTC) Help desk talk page templateHi. I've had a feeling for a while that users aren't necessarily catching our replies on the AFC Help Desk. This might partly be because the pre-formatted link for the help desk doesn't necessarily give an easy indication where the question goes, or when it gets replied. To see if I can fix that, I've created a template {{AFCHD/u}}, which is designed to go on a user's talk page. You have to substitute it, and put an extra parameter on the end, which is the name of the article you're answering questions about. Have a look at the documentation here to see how it's used, and here for a real-world use. Any feedback would be appreciated. --Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Revisions to AFC articleHuon - Regarding "Dayton Performing Arts Alliance" AFC: Could you help me figure out the current status of this article and what I need to do to get it published? I'm new here. :) Katherine M. Harris (talk) 23:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Katherine M. Harris (talk) 21:16, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Pelco (copied from Category:Revisions for Pelco Article)Thanks for the feedback on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Pelco - your right "An article about massive layoffs and a transfer of manufacturing to China is turned into a source for claims about "a comprehensive collection of innovative high-tech security and surveillance products" - it doesn't say that at all. And sourcing claims about Pelco's greatness to Pelco itself is hardly convincing." Sources are hard to find that aren't directly tied to Pelco. If I were to limit the content and remove statements such as "a comprehensive collection of innovative high-tech security and surveillance products" is it possible to approved with the Fresno Bee sources I have provided? My biggest issue has been trying to produce an article that is well written and of decent length supported by proper sources. So lets say hypothetically there are no more sources on Pelco, if I eliminated some of the statements could my article be approved with the sources I have? I like Wikipedia, I'm new to trying to contribute, and I just want some direction. The feedback, although helpful in pointing out what I've done wrong, doesn't help solve my problem unless the solution is to decrease the length of the article I'm trying to post. I just want the basic history of the company until it was bought by Schneider, the brand will eventually die, and Pelco played a major role in the development of security equipment in america...I think its history is important. I looked through Google sources, everything worthwhile that turns up is the Fresno Bee and requires a subscription to view..not to mention the abstracts generally aren't related to the important details I want to cover. Thank you for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aruegger (talk • contribs) 17:01, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Dear Huan, Thanks for your reply .It appears that the image of Dams in Amravati is out and can not be used. I will wait for the reply and may raise the doubt again.Will you please have a look at the article in the making and give some advice if it is not coming out right. Thanks once againPmvelankar (talk) 23:44, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Sir Thank you very much for the prompt reply. As said I had done some homework and I do remember reading about
</nowiki>' some where in the tutorial . But then there are so many, so many cross references in the tutorial, more than 2-5 in almost every line that in following those links one looses complete track of the original lesson.Can some thing be done about it so that a tutorial teaches and does not try to give you a Masters on all of the contents and policies of wikipedia . I will now submit and if declined will present my point of view as to why it should be included . Thanks once again.Pmvelankar (talk) 05:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Revisions to Idan (moshav)Hi Huon, I saw you reverted to a previous version, in part because it broke the arabic (fair enough, and quite unintentional), but also because you say it is a common spelling. Sadly, it is a common MISSPELLING, the official name of עידן in English, is Iddan...I'd suggest redirecting Idan to Iddan. This is backed not only by the official name, but THE PIC IN THE ARTICLE ITSELF :P Plus, I grew up there xD. Cheers - Elad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.232.67 (talk) 02:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Response to your help on publishing my article, with more questions...Hello Huon, Thanks for getting back to me with regard to my attempts to publish an article on the company Thrifty Computer. First of all, I appreciate your patience and assistance with resubmitting the article. This is the first piece I have tried to publish here, and I am still making my way around the interface, which I find quite a challenge! With regard to your point on the content of the piece: The significance of the health status of the company's owner, Elchonon Hellinger, is that the sum of the press (and thus the sources of notability for the company) focuses on two notable facts: the first being that the founder, despite having a debilitating lifelong illness, has succeeded in creating a successful business, and the second being that even though the company went completely under at one point, rather than declare bankruptcy and throw in the towel, he made the unusual choice of paying back all creditors to slowly regain his reputation and foothold in the industry. While I may have my personal opinions about this (and while having no prior or personal connections with the owner, have written about this company from that perspective in a separate context), from a purely factual standpoint, I found the information worth sharing and documenting here on Wikipedia. That being said, I have been trying to strike a balance between sticking to the facts of the company and not creating something that looks like a promotional piece. Thus I have edited out certain aspects of the business (details on shipping policies, etc.) that made it seem like I was selling their services. And I have attempted to convey the series of events that have led to the current state of the company without offering my opinion in any way, and just referring to the numerous business, medical and religious oriented publications that have featured articles about this business and its founder, Hellinger. Again, I find this whole process of publishing on Wikipedia fascinating and quite challenging, and now I feel committed to bringing this task to completion! As a writer, I know I'm capable of conforming to editorial standards and restrictions. I am just not clear where in the article I am straying from the requirements. Any further insight you can share would be much appreciated, as I am interested in publishing more articles in the future, once I get the hang of it... Thanks so much!! Deborah Oster Pannell (talk) 20:11, 26 January 2013 (UTC) Thank you very muchNirajrm Δ | [sign plz] 00:53, 31 January 2013 (UTC) Erich Frommhagenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Create_a_Article Sorry, I don't know how to fix it.Valleyspring (talk) 03:45, 4 February 2013 (UTC) pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Frommhagen, not 'de.wikipedia.org/Erich..." I hope you will reconsider.Valleyspring (talk) 07:26, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I didn't know they had a policy of no redirects to foreign language sites. Unfortunately, it is too time consuming to have this material translated. I just use the google trans. site and a German dictionary.Valleyspring (talk) 06:08, 5 February 2013 (UTC) I have just trans. from German a biography of "Hans Eisele_Doctor." It is a trans direct from German wikipedia page. Let me know if that is acceptable.!Valleyspring (talk) 05:48, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Stay off my articlesMy article is about my mother. All claims are true and I wanted to try to get her some recogniton. I don't know how to work Wikipedia and have no intent on trying but stay off my page. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Porterlarsen (talk • contribs) 07:58, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Marking Afc submissions for deletionYou can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Nomination of Brigitte Larsen for deletion A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Brigitte Larsen is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brigitte Larsen until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. I noticed that you are one of the few principal editors of this article. - ʈucoxn\talk 00:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC) Re: Articles for creation/America UnearthedHi Huon, I saw the message about the rejection of my submission of a page about the History Channel series, America Unearthed. The rejection cited the lack of references noting the subject as being significant. As a fan of this show, I would contend that surely the link to the article about how the show has become H2's highest rated show ever in the history of the network is evidence that the subject IS significant. What would you look for to evidence greater referencing? It is my first article but unlike many other shows such as MonsterQuest and Ancient Aliens, America Unearthed lacks a Wikipedia page, so I appreciate your help. Thanks. (71.195.22.181 (talk) 18:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)).
Hope that you are well. I've added a heap more references for the article about the H2 series, America Unearthed. The page is at this address: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/America_Unearthed Might you be able to re-assess the content and, hopefully, approve it for publication? Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.195.22.181 (talk) 17:09, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Dear Huon. While I was editing the page - and implementing some of your suggestions - someone else did a page (annoying!!), but it had errors and far less well researched references. At another user's suggestion I have merged my updated article with the other America Unearthed page. Hope this help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.195.22.181 (talk) 15:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
FrankincenseThis page[[6]] cites a difference in Frankincense vs its common name Olibanum that would be of some interest for expanding on the specificity of available information on incense and incense history--possibly something that could be transwikied if it becomes too specialized for encyclopedic content. Is it too Commercial to cite? It does provide excellent detail. AcheronSS (talk) 07:57, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
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ThanksHuon, Thanks for your input for my Help request. As I wrote on my talk page, one of the disconcerting aspects of my first experience here is that I've had work deleted without any prior notice that anything was wrong. It has prevented me from learning from early mistakes, and now I find a deluge of criticism I feel could have been avoided. Also, editors have placed labels on articles without adding any detail whatsoever as to the offending wording. As a result, I don't know what to change. The editors gave me no detail or texture as to what the real problem was. As a result, I don't even know where to start in making changes. I feel very much like I am caught between a rock and a hard place. I will try to learn the nuances of Wikipedia, but the application of some things aren't consistent with my experience in writing articles for academia. The 10% rule is what we lived by. That is, you can use no more than 10% of any article, so long as it is referenced, which I did (I never came close to 10%). The way things are in Wikipedia, the uses of a sentence might be seen by an editor as being copyright infringement. That is not the case. I apologize for the missteps I have made. Please do give me the benefit of the doubt. I am a serious writer and researcher, with a passion for certain subjects. I feel blessed that I was still working with personal computers came out. I was 48 when I got my first pc in 1992. But Wikipedia is a highly unique community, and there is a disparity of opinions as to the applications of the rules. I will try to adhere as best I know how to these rules. Please do, however, give me the benefit of understanding more precisely what errors I make so that I can learn from them. I need more than just the tags put on articles. I need an explanation at a more granular level what about an edit or article is in error. IbankingMM (talk) 15:17, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Editing Sergio Franchi articleHuon, I can relate to the sentiments expressed by IbankingMM above. Trying to learn! Please reply to my comment on your comments on the bio article on the Sergio franki article talk page just posted. Thanks Cathlec (talk) 18:37, 21 February 2013 (UTC) You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Thank you very much Huon for your amazing assistance. It has been very helpful. Kudos to you. lcarg2012 Bbry2 02:38, 22 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lcarg2012 (talk • contribs)
My article "Ali İsmet Öztürk" has been created. Thank you so much for your kind support and assistance! Mach22591 (talk) 01:35, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
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