en User talk:HereToHelp Archive 7

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Animated Gun Turret

I notice that you voted against the promotion of the Animated Gun Turret on the Featured Picture Candidates pages; however, User:Emscopes, the creator of the image, has retooled it to reflect the suggestions of those who voted oppose. I was wondering if you would take another look at the photo and see if the new version warrented a change in your vote. Thank You TomStar81 (Talk) 21:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Sure thing. thanks for telling me.--Here T oHelp 21:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Cecil Rhodes

Am I not right in thinking the image goes on the left where it faces into the page? - Kittybrewster (talk) 21:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I've always seen it on the right. In my browser, it also pushed the table of contents down, and it looked odd. If you look in other articles, there's either an infobox or a regular image to the right.--Here T oHelp 21:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Diamond facets

You might be surprised to find out, but the Diamond facets.svg file that you linked to was a copyright violation at the time. I have fixed the svg file's copyright notice.

Personally, I think it might be better to keep the .gif file, but crop out a few blank pixels so that it would be more likely to display at 100%. I will try that option one of these days.

-- Jasper 04:57, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing that. However, vector graphics (.svg) are generally regarded as superior to raster graphics (.gif, .png, .jpg) when a vector is available. This is because vector graphics can be scaled indefinitely and will give smooth lines not matter how much they are blown up. That's not to say all rasters are bad (photographs should remain .jpg), but for line graphics like what we're dealing with now, vector is preferred.--Here T oHelp 14:32, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

International wheelchair symbol

Hi again. A while back we had a discussion now located at Template talk:Non-free Mozilla logo#Why must Mozilla logos be used sparingly?. I want to let you know that there's another discussion on a related topic underway at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Use of international wheelchair symbol. Your comments would be welcome. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 15:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that's complicated! I've skimmed the comments and added my own.--Here T oHelp 21:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! —Remember the dot ^(talk) 22:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Zile

Hi, Can you copy edit the article when you have time? Thanks--Ugur Olgun 17:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Cancelling my account

I have been with Wikipedia for awhile and have decided that I want to close my account. I want to leave in good style and not by having to do vandalism. Dont worry I wont do that I just want to have my account closed because I dont feel that I want to do anything more with Wikipedia. When you cancel my account leave a message on my talk page that it is cancelled. Thank you. John R G 18:49, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. First if someone does alot of vandalism their account is closed and they are not allowed to log back in am I right. Note I have not done any vandalism. I am just trying to have my account closed so that I cannot log back in. Second if you can close my account and talk page I would appreciate it. I hope that explains everything. Im just ready to move on. John R G 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

Okay. I'm sorry you didn't like Wikipedia.--Here T oHelp 00:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Judging Credentials

What credentials do you have in reference to judging photographs? Do you have an academic degree in journalism, photography or art? Do you have years of working experience in the photography field? If so, can you please provide that information. I am curious to know what makes you an authoritative figure on Wikipedia to judge on the Featured Wikipedia photographs, besides the obvious fact that you are a Wikipedia administrator. -Signaleer 13:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I have no doubt of the credentials of the photographer or judges. I do love the emotion running through the image and the look of the small child. And admittedly, my first impression was somewhat wrong; I will address that on the voting page shortly. As for qualifications, well, it's Wikipedia. Being an admin has nothing to do with it. Adminship is not a trophy, and if I may except from that essay, "Every good-faith editor, from the newest editor to the most experienced bureaucrat, has the same status within Wikipedia." That's all the qualification I need.--Here T oHelp 13:34, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Suffice to say, you do not have an academic nor professional background for making that call since you declined to answer my question when asked about your background. -Signaleer 13:41, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Most photographs that go through this process are depictions, and that threw me off when I encountered one that was art. With practice, many people can come to evaluate depiction photographs (in which technical flaws are much more serious), but yes, I do not have the background to properly evaluate photography as art.--Here T oHelp 13:46, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

So the answer is no. Thanks, all I need to know. -Signaleer 07:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Kochsim.gif

I have added notes to the image description that may interest you.Cuddlyable3 19:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

i need help

one of my pages got deleted without notice what should i do!

See Wikipedia:Introduction to deletion process.--Here T oHelp 22:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Troublesome user

This troublesome user seems to need blocking: User:Socialdemocrats - take a look at his edit history, and the history of his Talk page - full of weird edits and sometimes he reverts edits as 'vandalism' that were not. His talk page was flooded with warnings but he keeps blanking it. — Wackymacs 13:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I took a look at his history (Socialdemocrats (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)) and he has been adding dubious "calculation errors" changes to the recent British election. This is the worst kind of vandalism because it can easily go unnoticed, especially from an established account. I've tried to revert his changes, but I think he will continue unless someone does something about it. What is the procedure for this? Paul^C/_T+ 23:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I have added another warning template to the talk page. I will block the account for 24 hours if goes at it one more time.--Here T oHelp 02:08, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Problem with article

Can you take a look at my article. It was nominated for deletion but, I don't think whoever tagged it even read the article. I'd like to get the tag removed. JoeyC5 03:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

It appears as if he read it very thoroughly, making specific points and arguments about it. You'll need to refute them based on merit.--Here T oHelp 18:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:SW binary sunset.png

Thanks for uploading Image:SW binary sunset.png. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. -bladebot 20:08, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Taken care of.--Here T oHelp 22:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Burrowing Owl

User:Wsiegmund has used his software to edit the Burrowing Owl shot I took...if you care to take another peek.[1]--MONGO 05:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I have done so.--Here T oHelp 14:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Main_page_redesign_reference_section_error.png)

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That thing is ancient, and I don't think it's vital to the archived discussions it was once part of. (Who reads those, anyway?) Go ahead and delete it.--Here T oHelp 19:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject: U.S. Presidents

Hi, I gather that you're one of the organizers of this project, so I wonder if you would take a look and comment on my proposal re flag icons, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Presidents#Flag icons? And also, shouldn't the Project template be on all of the U.S. Presidents' Talk pages by this time?

Any feedback would be appreciated, as I'm reluctant to make these changes boldly unless there's consensus first. JGHowes ^talk - 16:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that...

I was just trying to help archive the talk page on iPod. I'm sorry if you took it as vandalism. I don't know what to do with it now since I already moved it to archive 1. Please post back an answer on my talk page saying how to better archive things (not have an admin take it away) SuperMarioBrah 01:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I have replied on your talkpage, as requested.--Here T oHelp 01:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

iPhone

Thanks for keeping me in the loop with the OneTalk image. I understand why it was removed, I think that I was excited to put it in simply becuase it was a cool projection of what the app would look like on the iPhone. Scottydude _talk 03:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking it so well. It does look cool though.--Here T oHelp 13:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Apple

The page named above is being considered for deletion. Please feel free to take part in the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Apple. Thank you. John Carter 21:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Non-free use disputed for Image:Enigmo_icon.png

This file may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Enigmo_icon.png. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our Criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. The Sunshine Man 12:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Enigmo_2_icon.png

I have tagged Image:Enigmo_2_icon.png as a disputed use of non-free media, because there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please clarify your fair use rationale on the image description page. Thank you. The Sunshine Man 12:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and orphaned these images; go ahead and delete them.--Here T oHelp 14:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

User problems

Hello HereToHelp. I'm having some issues with a fellow Wikipedian (in this case, a sockpuppet) - I believe you have also had problems with this individual before. He has used several names: Xanther1, Xanther, LotsOfPProblems, and RememberOctober29. You might want to see: His contributions on his latest account. He seems to think biographies on notable Apple employees and products shouldn't be on Wikipedia. I'm not sure of what to do but I'm sure as an admin you can do something. Thanks. — Wackymacs 20:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Him again? Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'll look into it.--Here T oHelp 22:14, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks like he's up to his old routine. Claiming he's following specific Wikipedia policies while doing just the opposite is very much his style. Next thing you know he'll be accusing us of being one person…--Here T oHelp 22:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, we'll see what happens - but I think he'll come back again and revert that article yet again which means action must be taken. :-) — Wackymacs 07:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Has he violated the wp:3RR? That would provide firmer grounds for blocking.--Here T oHelp 14:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, he violated it twice on separate days. He reverted it 4 times as you can see here: history — Wackymacs 06:23, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Enigmo 2 icon.png)

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Orphaned non-free image (Image:Enigmo icon.png)

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We went through this above. Really, you can delete them.--Here T oHelp 13:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place for On-line Resumes or Advertisement of Apple's Junk

"HereToHelp",Your interference in the John Calhoun on-line resume posted as a "Wikipedia article" is not at all constructive and if you want to be useful then petition to have the John Calhoun article as well as all the irrelevant articles on Apple programs removed immediately from Wikipedia since the original intent of at least some of the articles is to DEFAME apple employees who were wrongfully and illegally fired in favor of insignificant individuals such as John Calhoun. Your taking sides with all of Mr. Calhoun's sockpuppets is also highly dubious.Xanther1 03:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Wow. There are so many things wrong with that that it's hard to know where to start. The article was not and is not a resume. Adding pictures, sources, and accurate, relevant information improves an article. But you insist on removing these, and the page history is never wrong. Also, you will have to prove what employees where "wrongfully fired"--and having articles on one employee does not diminish attention given to another. Calhoun does not have sockpuppets (as far as I'm aware) and you'll have to prove that I am "taking sides with" them. Until such evidence to prove this (which isn't true, so good luck) is provided, it remains a personal attack. Please stop this disruptive behavior.--Here T oHelp 19:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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SVG for Balanced Armature

I am unable to produce that format. The problem is that these diagrams were created (in a rush) in Power Point and reopened and saved as .jpg. Suggestions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JA.Davidson (talk • contribs) 20:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

You personally don't have to produce that format; I appreciate you creating the versions we have and releasing them under an acceptable license. Tagging them with templates puts them in a category where they may (eventually? theoretically?) receive attention. SVG is a special format called vector graphics, which need to be created in programs designed to create SVG files. If you like, you can download Inkscape (it's free and cross-platform) and try your hand at creating SVGs, but you don't have to. The Graphics Lab would do a better, quicker job.--Here T oHelp 23:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, when I run out of things to do. John 04:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:2007 iPods.png

Hi, I've tagged this image as replaceable fair use. WP:NFCC#1 states that an image is replaceable if there's a possibility of creating a free alternative and even free image placeholders are given priority to claiming fair use. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 08:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

BTW, on the issue of the iLounge cc-by-2.0 placeholders, I've re-tagged them on the Commons as Creative Commons licenses are non-revocable. In a week or so the issue will be moot anyway, as the new lineup will be flooding the stores and there will be plenty of opportunity to create free alternatives. Personally, I'm looking forward to messing around with my roommates new DSLR & the new classic :) ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 08:50, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:IPod placeholder.svg

How widely do you think this will be used?Genisock2 21:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

No idea. Hopefully not much. But it's potentially useful, and there are no copyright problems, so that's usually enough to keep it.--Here T oHelp 23:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:iPod Image

I did rearrange it, I'm not sure if you meant this arrangement. If you would prefer a different one, let me know--I'm not sure which arrangement to go with, personally.

Anyway, I just went in and took the photo--the employees didn't say anything, though it may differ by whose shift it may be. I've been wondering for a while why people don't just go take a photo, because I agree, that would be a great way to get some free images of new products. I plan to head down to my Apple Store when the iPod touch comes out, because good finding a free image quickly will probably prove difficult.

Thanks for the compliment on my image! --aido2002^talk 03:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Sieve WP:FPC

I noticed that your objection to the FPC was that it was too slow.. well BRIAN0918 created an edit that plays faster, so could you take a look at it and possibly update your vote? --⁪froth^t 18:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Will do.--Here T oHelp 23:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Bouncing ball FP nomination

There is a new extremely professional re-edit from my original RAW file by Richard Bartz, and I'd urge you to vote for this instead of my own imperfect Photoshop efforts. Thanks very much to Richard for the work he's put in. Please consider voting or amending your vote at: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Projectile motion. --MichaelMaggs 17:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Overly aggressive user

I am writing to inform an admin about an overly aggressive user who consistently disobeys civility rules. VegitaU cannot make an kind of correction or apply a tag without harassing other users, and constantly threatens with having someone blocked. Since he's not an admin, this is an empty threat, but it's inappropriate, nonetheless. Thanks, JaMikePA 20:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC).

Would you like to provide me with diffs as examples of this behavior?--Here T oHelp 21:51, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi! I am the nominator of the currently ongoing Parthenon FPC nom, and just wanted to stop by to says thanks for suggesting the ruins article. You really resuscitated what seemed to be an utterly hopeless cause. Oh btw, point of clarification: it's not considered unethical canvassing if I notify old "oppose" voters that the nom has been update, is it?

--Malachirality 00:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome! You can go around to the oppose voters as long as you don't actually ask them to change their vote. Merely inform them that the focus has shifted and you'd like them to review the nom again. Leave the final decision up to them.--Here T oHelp 00:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Surgical scripts

Hello H2H,

You kindly helped me put an article on Surgical Scripts onto Wikipedia.

This article was deleted in October.

Can you tell me what was wrong with it and how I might change it to make it acceptable?

I find the written help instructions very difficult to follow.

Many thanks.

Michael Edwards —Preceding unsigned comment added by M H EDWARDS (talk • contribs) 11:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The article was deleted under Proposed deletions ("prod"), a way to remove uncontroversial articles from Wikipedia. Had you looked at the article between Oct. 7 and 13, when the prod template (template:prod) was affixed to the article, you could have removed it and a more formal afd discussion would have occurred. That doesn't mean that the article would have not been deleted eventually, however. The justification for deletion, according to the prod template, was this: "This appears to be a glorified link to "Wikiscripts", which isn't part of the Wikimedia family." Wikipedia is not a free hosting service or advertising site. The article must claim some notability in order to be kept, rather than just link to your project. You can try to claim notability as described in the aforementioned link, or if that fails, insert a link to WikiSurgery at the end of the surgery article. Make sure you follow the guidelines about wikipedia:external links, however. Even if it doesn't belong in Wikipedia, I wish you the best over at WikiSurgery.--Here T oHelp 00:43, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

FAR for Macintosh

Macintosh has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Kaypoh 15:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

thank you for notifying me.--Here T oHelp 00:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello

I think the editing thing is cool. I never thought someone could create a website and let anyone make changes to it. --New York Dreams. —Preceding comment was added at 06:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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