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Comic opera

Happy New Year! The comic opera article says that Leo, the Royal Cadet was in the style of G&S, but the article on Leo does not say this. It may be that, like Victor Herbert, this german-born composer might have been more influenced by European operetta? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, well, no reason for me to question the G&S statement (thanks for the link to the librettist), although I thought it strange that it should be mentioned in the comic opera article but not in the opera's article. LOL re: List of Important Operas. The criterion for an important opera is, apparently, in the eye of the beholder. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:58, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you understand that I was joking about the List. That is why I said "LOL". I remember the sturm and drang over this list very well. I was making fun of the fact that someone might think that Leo should be on that list. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:30, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Lohengrin

Done, although I will say I find that guideline odd personally. --Cybercobra (talk) 01:47, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Davis

Thanks. At Tim's request, I proofread the article and left several more hidden questions that I think Tim will clear up shortly, but feel free to help out if you can. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IPA, RP, and British place names.

Hi Guillaume, it tests my patience when Americans claim exclusive ownership of both the Wikipeda and the English language. Lfd has escalated the matter on my talk page, and I could not refrain from adding my comments to the debate he has started here: Wikipedia talk:IPA for English#Rhoticity in place names. He appears to be insisting that it is Wikipedia policy to regard British English by default as a rhotic language, which it is clearly not, and I have written published works on the subject (which I won't cite on the Wiki). maybe you could chime in too while I am enlisting support from some of the other academic brits I work with on the Wikipedia. Cheers, --Kudpung (talk) 16:56, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Bizet's names

He was named Georges Alexandre César Léopold Bizet, but he was always known thereafter as Georges Bizet.

  • Doesn't that strike you as slightly odd? I know the French go in for multiple given names, but would anyone seriously have ever called him or referred to him as "Georges Alexandre César Léopold"? What I'm getting at is, there is no disconnect between being named ABCD and being known generally as A. Hence, there's no need for "but". But more to the point, everything I've ever read says that Georges was not one of his original legal names, but was given to him only at baptism. Sadie seems to be the odd man out here. Cheers -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 14:10, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Many thanks for ...

...this! It would have completely ruined my "street cred". Have left you some feedback on Wexford at the OP talk page. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Bayreuth canon FLC

Im happy for you to do some copy-editing. THanks for the offer.--Peter cohen (talk) 22:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thansk for your input. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Featured_list_candidates/Bayreuth_canon/archive1&diff=next&oldid=343582853 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bayreuth_canon&action=historysubmit&diff=343613389&oldid=343583754 --Peter cohen (talk) 21:38, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. I'm hoping that there are enough supports for it be closed before anyone else gives me some more work. I'm wanting to turn my attention to Trevor Pinnock which is under threat of being delisted as a GA after the original editor has gone into semi-retirement.--Peter cohen (talk) 22:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for the ocngratulations.--Peter cohen (talk) 17:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quick opinion please

Do you think that the young British singers Sarah Tynan and Mark Stone (opera singer) (as opposed to the two at Mark Stone) are worthy of their own pages yet? almost-instinct 11:40, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blimey, yes all of those are very deserving, esp Coote. There's not a great deal to say about MS or ST, so I might see if I can knock something together for them both; there are plenty of online reviews to get them acceptably referenced. (I think a small WP-generated page heads off the possibility of someone just copying their agents' bumpf) Tynan's Adina at ENO was lovely (not a word I would use to describe, say, the excellent Gheorgiu DVD) - would like to hear her in something like Fille du Regiment almost-instinct 17:45, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Refimprove tag

Regarding this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ryanair&diff=346923255&oldid=346900671

Just because there are many refs in the article does not mean that the article does not need any more refs.

Guillaume, when an article has uncited info, it needs to have the refimprove tag. Once everything (except for obvious stuff, like Plato was a philosopher, etc) is cited, then the refimprove tag can go.

To help I'll mark things which need citations. WhisperToMe (talk) 22:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to the infobox, it may display differently on your computer than on mine - On mine the infobox ends shortly after the TOC is concluded. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Janet Baker in Maria Stuarda

I noticed yesterday that in the forthcoming Opera North production of Maria Stuarda the title role will be taken by Sarah Connolly. Apparently they will be using the version that Janet Baker used at ENO. I can't find much about what this "version" might be - is the role quite low for a soprano anyway? I was wondering if it were just a case of removing a few top notes or whether transposition was involved. Do you happen to know anything about this? This review of the JB recording says "Indeed, this version of the score, which Donizetti lowered for Malibran's own mezzo voice, suits her perfectly" which doesn't quite answer the question... almost-instinct 09:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm tempted to copy and paste the entirety of your incredibly detailed answer into the Maria Stuarda article, as a footnote next to the word "soprano". I went and listened to bits of Janet Baker singing MS, and found that my usual bemusement with her remains, but that's another story. At any rate, I think we should try to get some of this into the MS page. If I put something in, adapted from what you wrote (complete with all the lovely wikilinks) could you pop some refs in? I notice that I'm slowly being drawn into spending the greater proportion of my WP-time on Opera subjects ... not sure if that's a good thing. Much easier to write about things one is relatively clueless about, than things where one is aware of the ambiguities and problems, I find ;-) Thank you for your fulsome answer, almost-instinct 08:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The bulk of your explanation now cheerfully crowbarred into place ;-) Btw, after asking you I spent a long time sifting through the various Google results for Maria Stuarda + mezzo etc - I couldn't find any reference at all as to what the actual emendations to the role might be. almost-instinct 08:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
A nuch (sic) maligned and under appreciated arcane science. Thank you

Thank you for the kind words

Indeed, Wagnerians I can cope with (even Portillo!) As to this can of worms, well for those that reiterate the "humble origins" thing I suspect they have never stood in the house (or indeed bedroom) in which he was born. But anyway, personally I always thought that it was the Count of St. Germain that wrote the plays (he was immortal you know). You have far more patience then me to get involved in that one. And Ben Goldacre? Indeed, a very good reason the read The Guardian. Perhaps the perfect antidote to the insanity and quackery of the Daily Mail? :-) Tucker talk 03:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Mail?

Hasn't bounced back (sent 16:55 [British Summer Time]). Get it OK? --Jubileeclipman 16:39, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. And replied. --GuillaumeTell 16:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My userpage

Thanks for the heads up on the userboxes and employment status. I have updated my page: does it work OK now? (Thanks also for the two pints which I will return in kind someday...!) --Jubileeclipman 09:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC) PS the Yorkshire Project looks interesting: I must check it out one day --Jubileeclipman 09:39, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the boxes now look fine, and let's hope that the employment status changes soon. I've started a few Yorkshire articles and contributed to a number of others (but avoided the can of worms about whether Leeds means the city, the city, the city region, the former County Borough ....). --GuillaumeTell 10:43, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent: thanks for that. On the other thing: thank good we don't live in Teeside/Cleveland/Durham Tees Valley/whatever... (Which county is it in anyway?) --Jubileeclipman 12:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Howlett

I've just created the page for Neil Howlett, the ENO baritone in the 70s and 80s. May I ask you to take a moment from your sensationally enjoyable work on the Opera North repetoire to look him up in one of your Boys Big Book of Opera Singers, and to add a whatever details there are there? I'm not finding much online. Thank you! almost-instinct 18:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't see him on stage but I heard him in the flesh and was also v impressed by the recording of his ENO Iago. Was surprised he didn't have a page almost-instinct 21:49, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moving and Wikibreak

Hi GuillaumeTell. I thought I had better tell you that I am moving from York to live with my dad in Scotland to be his carer. I'll be moving to my mum's first for a few weeks (most of my stuff is there) then moving up (more) North in a few weeks. I'll also be with out internet after tommorrow morning, therefore, and on wikibreak of indeterminate length since she has no reliable broadband connection (and editing via dial-up is near impossible these days...). Sorry I haven't told you till now: I have a ton of stuff to catch up with, here and in RL. We may never meet again in RL but I certainly enjoyed our chat and I thank you for the wisdom you imparted me with during that brief encounter. See you around WP soon. Cheers (!) --Jubileeclipman 23:37, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Music Barnstar
For your sterling work on opera articles and other music-related articles Jubileeclipman 23:43, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow - thanks for that! I'm just back from a trip to London - Elegy for Young Lovers at the Young Vic and I Went to the House but did not Enter by Heiner Goebbels at the Barbican Centre. Good luck with the move and hope to see you back here again in due course. --GuillaumeTell 21:02, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another one

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
For the diligent and inspirational work on the Opera North repertoire pages, awarding by a very impressed almost-instinct 19:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

La bohème

Ta muchly - I had always assumed it meant the girl.  :-} --Smerus (talk) 14:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Op North lists

I just realised that I made my reply on my own talk page - hope you noticed it was there, sorry. I don't know if you've bothered to look to see how I forced the columns for Director/Designer/Conductor: I found that even if one specifies the column size, they still vary - especially if one then changes the size of the window one has open on one's computer. Lord knows why. I found that using non-breaking spaces for the person with the longest name in that column gives that column a minimum size in a thoroughly consistent way. So, for example, on the Opera North: history and repertoire, seasons 1997–98 to 2003–04#Repertoire list in the Designer column you can see Robert Innes Hopkins; in the Conductor column Oliver von Dohnányi and Amir Hosseinpour/ in the Director column all have nonbreaking spaces. On Opera North: history and repertoire, seasons 1978–79 to 1980–81#Repertoire I had to use a non-breaking hyphen for "David Lloyd‑Jones/" which isn't identical to a normal hyphen, but as it doesn't really leap off the page, I don't think thats a problem. I'm not sure why I feel it to be so, but I think it looks an awful lot better when someone's name isn't split over two lines. (Um, the semiotics of identity?) almost-instinct 16:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

University of Leeds

Thank you for helping myself and my brother (Red_jay) as we are trying to improve the University of Leeds page. Your help has been greatly appreciated by us too! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgtjsell (talkcontribs) 20:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Leeds article - "Jimmy's"

Hi As you are the editor that reverted the change, and I am the one that added the reference so I don't want to risk tempting an edit war to start or anything, would you be able to put one of the template messages onto the anonymous users talk page so they know not to delete without reason? Thanks Tomdresser27 (talk) 21:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of The Rose of Castille

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DYK for The Rose of Castille

The DYK project (nominate) 12:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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Tosca London premiere

Re the Guardian 1900 review, on reading it I was stopped dead by the following: "The librettos are derived from a French source, the famous novel of the Abbé Prévost having previously been borrowed by Auber and Massanet." (emphasis added by me). Eh? This seems like a gross error; the critic is surely getting confused with Manon Lescaut, which was based on a Prévost novel and was the subject of a Massanet opera. Do you agree? Brianboulton (talk) 09:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Final Opera North repertoire page

Hello! Sorry was away for a while - able to keep an eye on things but not do anything substantive. Anyway, I've had a first go - tell me if you think that looks ok. Are you intending to make a page called something like List of Opera North Repertoire, combining all the pages' info? I played with one on my [utterly messy] sandbox and found it enjoyable/useful almost-instinct 14:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PS I've redone the all-in-one table here almost-instinct 17:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Discographies

Thanks for the note on my talk page. I shall stick a toe in the water, I think. Greatly obliged for the tip. - Tim riley (talk) 20:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Schreker operas

I have created Die Gezeichneten and Der Schatzgräber. Both these articles have been expanded by myself and other users. Do you think they deserve start status on the WikiProject Opera's quality scale? Francesco Malipiero (talk) 13:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hope You Enjoy This

After reading your exchange with Brianboulton at the Talk:Tosca page concerning Britten, I thought you might enjoy this parody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YqgiOj54Ko by Dudley Moore. Dr. Dan (talk) 21:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Tempest

Hi Guillaume,

Are you still able to do a copy-edit on The Tempest? As expected it's taking some time to get a GA review of it so I don't think you need to worry that a reviewer would mistake a copy-edit as lack of stability. I realize everyone has constraints on their time, but since you were so kind as to offer, I'll chance being so bold as to enquire. :-) Cheers, --Xover (talk) 07:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm not happy about the use of lists, or the deviation from the standard sections (Sources and Date and text), but I am quite pleased to see someone working on it, so I'll try to not let my biases lead me astray. :-)
As regards the anti-Strachey stuff, it was a relative recent addition which, I suspect, was weighted by more than due focus on the POV of those who want to argue for a much earlier date for the play. Giving some space to it is appropriate: there's been some articles back and forth between Aldus T. Vaughan (the co-editor, with Virginia M. Vaughan, of the Arden edition of the play) and Stritmatter—Kositsky on the topic, so it qualifies (just barely) as a relevant controvery (and is interesting to boot). The trouble is what follows those three (or so) sentences, which devolves into pure advocacy, as well as handwavy phrasings like “is traditionally believed” for things that, here, can be simply stated as facts. I've been meaning to take a crack at excising these and maybe improve the overall quality of the relevant sections while I'm at it; but didn't want to invite any potential controversy while we're waiting for a GA review.
Anyways, I'm happy to see you bring fresh eyes to it, and would encourage you to keep at it (and by all means work directly on the article if you prefer, over the sandbox). Even if I should happen to not be swayed by the final result, the other editors of the article may like it better; and if push comes to shove I'm sure we can hash out a consensus version on the talk page(s) somehow.
I'll try to take a closer look at your sandboxed version soon, and see if I can be persuaded that your approach is better— :-) —or, alternately, make some concrete suggestions for how my preference on the matter would run.
PS. Feel free to reply here to keep the conversation together. I'm watchlisting your talk page. Cheers, --Xover (talk) 23:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One problem I see is the way the paragraph begins: "Some scholars have challenged the 1610–11 dating of the play, discounting the likelihood of Strachey's narrative as a source and proposing other, earlier, source material." As far as I know, S&K never offer up an earlier date for The Tempest; they only argue for a later dating for Strachey, and Hunter and Elze wrote before Strachey was nominated as a source although the way the sentence is written suggests that they were responding to the Strachey source. It seems to me the entire paragraph could be wrapped up in one sentence, including the scholarly disclaimer. Tom Reedy (talk) 01:36, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Right, “S&K” are trying to discredit Strachey as a source—by pushing it past the first known performance of The Tempest—but they do so in order to support an earlier date for the play (since de Vere croaked in 1604). Hunter and Elze aren't, so far as I can tell, particularly relevant. Malone is—with his outdated (pardon the pun) date and missing Strachey as a source—and the article by Vaughan (and hence the earlier S&K article that he responds to) is; but the following stuff by S&K and such should probably be dropped. I'll have to take a closer look at the material in question; but either way it's getting way too much weight the way the section reads right now. --Xover (talk) 02:05, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, as Xover suggests, I'll move the section from my sandbox to the article, and let battle commence. You two know a lot more about S&K than I do, and I would be very happy if you could prune their section. --GuillaumeTell 11:03, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since I published an article rebutting S&K, I think any edits made by me would be seen as blatant COI, so I'll refrain. I have been meaning to add more sources, though. Alden's Arden introduction to the play is comprehensive and reflects the current consensus. If you need a copy let me know and I'll scan it into a PDF and send it to you. Tom Reedy (talk) 14:43, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've now got the article, thanks, but the Arden intro stops after a couple of pages, so a PDF of it would be good. Incidentally, I have the New Cambridge Shakespeare edition of the play (Ed David Lindley, 2002) and there's quite a bit there, among other things, about the Aeneid as a source - I was thinking of adding some of that. (BTW, S&K to me means either Steak and kidney pie or Swinton and Knottingley Joint Railway.) --GuillaumeTell 15:43, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll scan it this p.m. and send it to you. Incidentally, almost every statement sourced by S&K is suspect. These two especially:
Modern researchers have recently added Ariosto's 1516 Orlando Furioso as a possible cource for the play, as it contains many of the storm references also found in Naufragium.[15]
However, the ultimate source of Montaigne's passage is an account of Gonzalo Oviedo published in English for the first time in Richard Eden's 1555 Decades of the New Worlde, with which Shakespeare was evidently familiar.[18]
Their assertions have not been peer-reviewed, and assertion is no indicator of consensus, no matter where it is published. Tom Reedy (talk) 16:20, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha! I reviewed the edit history and guess who added all the S&K material? Tom Reedy (talk) 00:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ive sent you part A of Kermode but your mailbox is full and won't accept part B. Download it and clear your mailbox and I'll send part B again. (It's even too full to take a message!). Tom Reedy (talk) 16:35, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that - I don't have a lot of space and am lazy about clearing it out. Part A upped the % of used space from 92% to 105%. I've downloaded it and also cleared out several large files, and space in use is down to 82%, which I hope will suffice....... --GuillaumeTell 17:04, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just for completeness sake… I do intend to take a stab at rewriting the sources and date stuff with an eye to better balance between the accepted scholarship and the recent back and forth between Stritmatter–Kositsky and Vaughan (and, apparently, Reedy ;D). I'm just focussed on a different project just now that I'd have to set aside to do a deep-dive into this aspect of The Tempest. Not that that should deter anyone from improving those sections (COI issues aside); but I just wanted to make a note of it so it doesn't look like I abandoned the issue in mid-stream. --Xover (talk) 10:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see if there's anything I can do without stirring up a hornet's nest, but I'm probably a bit out of my depth. I stopped copy-editing once the GAR started (but there doesn't seem to be a need to do any more apart from the above). Also, I've been away (went to The Winter's Tale and As You Like It at Stratford-o-A) and have been catching up on other things. I've only just discovered that it passed GA - congratulations. --GuillaumeTell 10:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clutter or necessary?

Is this line of text about the foreign character necessary, or, as I suspect, just cluttering up the article?: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=La_P%C3%A9richole&action=historysubmit&diff=378308380&oldid=378047795 If you're not sure, who can we ask? Did you see Opera North's Ruddigore? If so, how did you like it? Hope your summer is going well. Thanks, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. Let me know where to comment, and I'll vote to delete it. I was never in favour of going forward with Ruddigore at this time. I'd like to move Pirates and Mikado forward first. If you feel like doing any work one either, that would be super. I've been busy with Kern/Bolton, etc. and all the D'Oyly Carte family articles. Getting Richard and the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company articles up to GA has been something I hoped to do for awhile! Tim riley has been a great collaborator on those! Savoy Hotel is reopening 10/10/10, so I put a little work into that article, though it's still a little spotty. My summer has been busy. I visited Ireland for the first time just to sight-see. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:49, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Your wish is my command --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 01:35, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

G&S performing groups cat

You wrote: " I don't think that English National Opera "performs or has performed fully-staged versions of the works of Gilbert and Sullivan at least annually" (unless "at least annually" means any period of two or more consecutive years, which I don't think it should). I'm also dubious about the Carl Rosa Opera Company for the same reason."

You probably know ENO's history better than me, but I understood that between 1961 and 2006 they performed an awful lot of G&S. If we don't have this cat on the article, should there be no G&S cat at all on that article? If you look at the article, there is a whole G&S section. As to Carl Rosa, they have been performing mostly G&S since 1997 (indeed, I think nearly exclusively G&S), although they try to make it look like their repertory is broader. Let me know what you want to do re: ENO. I have no problem either way. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. OK, done as you suggested. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work - I'd got it on my "Must get round to creating it sometime" list, but you've beaten me to it. Not that I've seen much of Leeds recently... PamD (talk) 06:45, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll be putting in some more detail, then it looks like a good idea to clean up William Halfpenny, and there's more to do on the York virtuosi... --GuillaumeTell 10:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hope you can help

Hi Andrew. Would you please take a look?. Tom Reedy (talk) 18:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, tomorrow. I'm no expert in these matters, so will be concentrating on style and copy-editing rather than content (unless there's something that sticks out like a sore thumb), and will raise anything remotely controversial on the Talk page. --GuillaumeTell 00:28, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for inserting the ref. Could you possibly do the same for List of Shakespeare authorship candidates? They're on the talkpage, and I've included the ones that are now there so all that needs to be done is one cut-and-replace. If you've been following the drama you know why I can't! Cheers Andrew. Tom Reedy (talk) 12:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've only just logged in again (lunch, shopping, purchasing some Euros - I'll be away Monday-Thursday - etc.) and AFAICS Paul B has done the necessary, so I don't think there's anything for me to do. --GuillaumeTell 15:29, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'm behind the times. Thanks and have a good weekend. Tom Reedy (talk) 15:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Šarlatán

Hello GuillaumeTell, Thank you for starting the article on Šarlatán. I made some other additions. There may be more to add and will review it again when I have more time. Also, I have solicited the help of User:Vejvančický to check the thesis for relevant information. Best regards, Hrdinský 06:51, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Le feste

Yes, I started to have my doubts. I was working from the booklet notes to the Rousset recording which have potted biographies of all the singers except Millico. I've just noticed there's one very brief reference to "the castrato Millico, who played the part of Orpheus". No first name, no biographical details. Very odd. On the other hand, it has a paragraph of information on Caselli (although his dates are "?-?" and it says he is "infrequently mentioned in ancient documents"). It says he appeared in Aristeo and Bauci e Filemone (but not Orfeo). --Folantin (talk) 09:54, 1 November 2010 (UTC) [reply]

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Orpheus' first act finale aria

Hello Guillaume Tell! Although I do have to admit that ‘L’espoir renaît dans mon âme’ “is certainly out of keeping with the lofty character of the rest of the opera” (Charles Mackerras), I am enthusiastically fond of that aria, too. In Italy it is quite disliked by both musicologists and musicians. The critic Elvio Giudici, after stating it is by Ferdinando Bertoni, added that it proves to Gluck’s great advantage, “since the aria itself is pretty ugly”. Riccardo Muti would by no means allow Marilyn Horne to perform the aria in a Florence production of many years ago and she sensationally abandoned the theatre never to be back there again. There are good recordings of the French version by Rockwell Blake and, lately, by Juan Diego Florez, which are available on Youtube. There one can also find recordings (by Vesselina Kasarova or Ewa Podles, for instance) of quite a musically different third version of the aria, whose incipit is “Amour, viens rendre à mon âme”: it was so reworked by Camille Saint-Saëns and Pauline Viardot for Berlioz’s 1859 edition, turning it from an eighteenth century Italianate bravura aria into a nineteenth century French coloratura one. I don’t like this version that much. Cheers.--Jeanambr (talk) 11:04, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks...

...for all the work with York Castle! Hchc2009 (talk) 18:29, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, a few more modern day shots would be good... I'm down south, unfortunately, so it may need a local photographer! :) Hchc2009 (talk) 17:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Iphigénie en Tauride

I've been meaning to work on Iphigénie and a couple of other Gluck operas but unfortunately I haven't had as much time as I expected this month. I'm revising the synopsis, the composition and background, and the performance history. The recordings section is all yours if you want it (it was a bit of a mess last time I looked). Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 18:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about a separate discography. Having looked at the German list, I see a lot of them are long out-of-print recordings plus some "semi-legit" live stuff. Should we include all of these? --Folantin (talk) 12:54, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

River Foss

Many thanks for your suggestions. I agree with the listing of the bridges and i will reverse the list. I needed to correct the order anyway as i noticed that a couple of them were in the wrong place in relation to the template. That was because that part i left alone from the original article before i updated it. I will look around for a free use photo that shows the Castle Mills lock better. Again that image was there before i started updating. I will add the iron foot bridge on Foss Islands road to the list and template. As fort the page of Bridges over the Foss, i think you make a good point and will post a comment on the article discussion page to get consensus.Rimmer1993 (talk) 13:16, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


English Opera

I actually did something useful .... you might be interested in this. It certainly needs some help! almost-instinct 10:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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L'Italiana in Algeri

Salut, Guillaume. You just reverted the capitalisation of Italiana in the title of L'Italiana in Algeri, but it does in fact need to be capitalised because it is a noun based on national origin, not an adjective (as can be seen by the fact that it is modified by the definite article l'). See how this Italian title is treated in the Italian WP [1]. It is when such a designation is used as an adjective that it is not capitalised, e.g. un'opera italiana. Same in French, incidentally: Un Français, but un livre français. Awien (talk) 14:26, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All fixed now. Awien (talk) 14:30, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

neighbouring?

Perhaps a better word? We know nothing about the captain except his servant died and was moorish, he could be anywhere in Florence.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Guillaume, and thanks for your various suggestions and improvements to Schicchi. We are hoping to nominate this for FAC later this week, but if you have any further issues to raise, we'd be pleased to act on them first. Brianboulton (talk) 21:27, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your additions to this article. All the preserved churches are now in regional lists, as you will see. I'm not sure if you are aware that List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in South West England is now a FL, and that List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in the English Midlands is a FLC. I am hoping to prepare articles on all the preserved churches that do not have articles of at least Start Grade, and then offer the other lists for FLC. Just to keep you informed. Happy Christmas.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]