Merry Christmas and a happy new year! I have checked 365 of the articles created by you for typos, please check if my edits are correct. I noticed two more problems, but I am not sure how to fix 'em, would you be so kind to take a look?
That is amazing, the checking I mean! Thank you so much! I fixed the first. The second: someone added the sound file of the basis by Lassus, I removed it as misleading,but if wanted it should be clarified that the sound is not what the article is about, just the inspiration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Happy New Year, Gerda and thanks for all your support in 2015 (even on BOXing day)! Looking forward to further collaboration in 2016.--Ipigott (talk) 14:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your kind wishes and sage advice about Joy Gerda. I hope you had a very peaceful and merry Christmas; and I hope you have an absolutely fantastic New Year in 2016. — Ched : ? 19:09, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Last week, I have created a separate page for the recently retrieved Der Mondabend, a recording of which I will get in a few days.
I have found the text on the score of Schubert's lied on the same text, and I have added an English translation, which I have adapted from two other sources. I would be you very graceful if you can find some time for having a look on it.
On 1 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Andante Festivo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jean Sibelius conducted his Andante Festivo in a live broadcast on New Year's Day 1939, the only sound document of his interpretation of his works? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Andante Festivo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Dear Gerda, Thankyou for your various recent thanks! Glad to see you are very busy and productive here as usual...! I have the excuse that I am lazy. A lightning excursion to various ruined abbeys in October had me reverberating with ghostly plainchant and latinity, but now that the New Year has begun I can revert to Nonconformist mode for a while. Harmonious and melodious greetings for the New Year! Eebahgum (talk) 20:44, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Gott, wie dein Name, so ist auch dein Ruhm, BWV 171
I would be you very grateful for an advice about the following.
Since the Kitzler-Studienbuch is now issued, I have updated the page Lieder (Bruckner) and modified its subtitles. However, I am not fully happy with the new subtitles "First issued lieder", i.e., issued in in Band XXIII/1 of the Gesamtausgabe, and "Der Mondabend". They indeed contain 3 lieder and 2 sketches composed during the St. Florian period, i.e., before Kitzler's tuition, and 4 lieder composed after Kitzler's tuition (3 in Linz and 1 in Vienna).
I think I would have on level 2 header Published Lieder (or whatever you prefer), then level 3 subheaders which say rather precisely what will follow (by volume, by time, mention both, you decide). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:16, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your advice. I have tried to find a compromise for restructuring it by time and by volume, as van Zwol does on pp. 715-718 (i.e., putting the Kitzler-Studienbuch between Wo bist du, Früling and Herbstkummer). Van zwol puts, however, the two sketches (Entwürfe) afterwards (on pp. 718-719), as it is done in the Gesamtausgabe.
I have not put Mondabend in chronological order, because it is not part of the Gesamtausgabe.
Hi, Gerda. First of all, thank you for all you have been doing with the editing and the DYK on Sibelius' works! I have been busy with expanding En saga and trying to get The Oceanides to survive its FAC review. There are two things I could use your help with, since you are usually the person I turn to when I need help learning what to do! First, there is an image review that I don't really know what to do with; images are the one thing on Wikipedia that confound me more than anything else. Any step-by-step guidance or help you could offer I would really appreciate. Second, the Hepokoski and Dahlström source: the Grove Music Online is a service for which one has to pay to access; the access URL I have is through my university, Vanderbilt. But clearly, this won't work for readers. What is the Wikipedia solution for this issue (that is, when the source link is pay-to-view, how do we link up to it)? Sgvrfjs (talk) 22:31, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(waking up to this:) brief answers: look what others did. For images, there were long discussions in the FAC of O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad, BWV 165. For FA, each image has to have a reason to be there, which is best explained in the caption, and each image should have a |alt= which explains what's shown to those who don't see it. Imagine you are blind. I am not good at it (lacking language terms for paintings) and usually ask for help myself. RexxS helped me then. - For the paid access: there's some point in the cite template where you add "subscription required", - compare other FAs. - I am pleasantly busy with my effort to bring a cantata to GA for all occasions (none yet for 6 Jan), but will get to the FAC. Some made it the third time, a failure on the first (ever) is no death ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The simplest way for a paywalled source is to add {{Subscription required}} immediately after the close of the citation template and immediately before the closing ref tag, like this:
<ref name="xyz">{{cite web | url = ... | accessdate = 5 January 2010}}{{Subscription required}}</ref>
As for the image review, thank you for providing the discussion to the review for the cantata, but I'm afraid, all of this really is above me (and my Wikipedia 'training'). Is is possible for the editor that has an FAC nomination, but is a little (okay, a lot) out of his/her depth on the image review, to enlist the help of an image pro? Or does the nomination just fail because he/she doesn't have the ability to deal successfully with the review? Sgvrfjs (talk) 20:37, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Your edit adding the {{subscription required}} templates was fine. With shortened footnotes, you add the template right after the citation template in the Sources section, exactly as you did. As for the image review, just try to answer the questions if you can, or say that you don't know. For example, the lead photograph File:Jean Sibelius, 1913.jpg is claimed to be free because it's in the public domain in Finland and the USA because it was published in 1913. But if the photographer had died less than 70 years ago, his copyright may still exist in some countries. As it happens the photographer is given in the image description page as Daniel Nyblin, and a bit of googling leads to his article on the Finnish Wikipedia, which shows he died in 1923, so there is no copyright on the photograph. I've noted that on the FAC page. Can you do the same sort of research on any of the other images used? --RexxS (talk) 21:32, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Marianne Katoppo
On 5 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marianne Katoppo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Marianne Katoppo, who wrote the book Compassionate and Free. An Asian Woman's Theology, found the term feminist theology "too loaded"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marianne Katoppo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Thanks for that, Gerda - the box before said 'alternative title' (which the full title is not) - I didn't realize there was a 'full title' option--Smerus (talk) 11:57, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, thanks for reviewing my DYK submission and your kind and helpful feedback. You forgot to sign your review though, which might deter the article's promotion. Best.4meter4 (talk) 21:59, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As you know, music is not my specialty. If you or Ipigott could lay eyes on this and make sure I made no glaring mistakes, that would be fabulous. Thank you. SusunW (talk) 23:51, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I never remember whether to link the artist or the work and whether it is debut, premier, etc. eludes me. I am going to do the DYK on the trans-Atlantic broadcast, as that seems pretty hooky to me :) SusunW (talk) 15:15, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you don't remember, look here again: debut for people, premiere for pieces, link for pieces if there (then only last name of composer, especially if famous), but link to composer if piece has no article, full name if less known ;) - example from my latest: Hans Zender's Stephen Climax (no article even in German, so no red link). She appeared in the opera shown above which I saw, from a different perspective. - See you on DYK ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wild and Free-Roaming Horse and Burro Act of 1971 Page
The article is one of 24k on my watch list, and when one of them shows up twice a day I look. I am interested in respect of WP:BRD. If your changes improve the article, the way to have them in it is discussion of their merits on the article talk, trying to find consensus for them. It's a good concept, which has nothing to do with ownership. Convince me of the merits of your edit by supplying good arguments and sources, again: on the article talk, not here. (An "and" is missing in "your" title, - is that perhaps a cause of misunderstanding?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So, you are interested in improving it? Because after getting it reverted back to status quo, MBW seems to have lost interest in doing so. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 11:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) A couple of points: Lynn, it's an article (namely this one: Wild and Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act of 1971), not a page. If you are going to make massive edits to a WP:GA article, you need to discuss or explain yourself on the the article's talk page first. You definitely need to use edit summaries for every single edit. And you always need to follow WP:BRD and gain consensus first, if your bold changes are reverted or contested. Softlavender (talk) 12:10, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Softlavender. You explained it better than I could. Lynn, the place to suggest improvements is the talkpage, not here. I think I expressed that several times. Convince me/us of the merits of your changes, best one by one. I am improving Max Deutsch, see below. That's for Friday, I see no rush for the horses. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:38, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So, I take it, Gerda, that you will help improve it? I'm not discussing the improvements here, only the commitment you seemed to have made to improving the page article by reverting my edits. I know it's only a horse page. I can wait until Friday. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 13:43, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Lynn, neither of us has explicitly or implicitly agreed to anything. We are just advising you of policy. Your posting here making snide comments and backhanded demands and ultimatums appears to me to be a form of harassment, and will probably achieve the reverse of your aims. If you had initially sincerely aimed to improve the GA article, you should have mentioned your perceived problems with it on its talk page before beginning, edited collaboratively, posted clear edits with substantiating RS citations and complete and clear edit summaries on every single edit, and waited to achieve consensus before replacing any edits which were reverted or challenged. This is all basic Wikipedia protocol, nothing complex or new. If you didn't understand that beforehand, going forward please observe those protocols and policies. Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 14:15, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
user:softlavender, I would think that if your motive was to truly give me advice, you would do so on my talk page. As it is, you've butted into a perfectly civil conversation, and are now twisting the results of your doing so into accusations of some kind of harassment. YES, I SINCERELY aimed to improve the article, and your implication that I was just trying to cause trouble is uncivil. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 14:55, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, Gerda! I hope the festive season passed as agreeably for you as it did for me. An IP has edited the article quite extensively, but not, I think, damagingly. I don't propose to put my oar in. What think you? Tim riley talk19:43, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Several edits, but only minor style changes, all of them to the lead. Why anybody would change active voice for passive, I don't know, but nothing to fight over. Look just above and compare. Two comments per discussion would be a blessing in some discussions ;) - In case you missed the general good wishes for the seasons, help yourself to a look at their images, imagine music, - the last entry begins with "Tutto nel mondo è burla"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I liked "dream - wake up - go". Which month of the calendar (below) did you like best? Falstaff was a good start in the year, thank you for your wonderful work on it in memory of Viva-Verdi. It was followed by ice-breaking as a political statement ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I thought that all these students should have articles, - happy that I created Capdenat a while ago. Gnome is the ne and only topicon on my user page, DYK? We want women in music right now, see above ;) - How do you feel about an infobox for Deutsch? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think an infobox is just the ticket. We also need a picture. User: Doug Coldwell has some ideas on that. I also think that one of the beauties of Wikipedia, when it is done right, is the strength of many edits and editors. Eendraght Maeckt Magh In unity there is strength! 7&6=thirteen (☎)19:30, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote one today about a singer whose previous article was deleted ;) - here's the next for my to-do-list, I try one woman a day for the rest of the month. I do many things here for defiance, including making DYKs about it, and when it worked about ice-breaking, see above also ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good for you. If you need help, please let me know. Except for writing about things I know something about (lots of Michigan articles, for example), I don't have an agenda. And I sometimes wade in on things I know nothing about (like Max Deutsch) because I am a contrarian and inclusionist by nature. 7&6=thirteen (☎)19:58, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Could you create stubs for the men with an article in French or German? Collect where to find sources for the others? (One per name is a start, as I did for the women.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Hi, Gerda! Thanks for nominating Zueignung for DYK; it's a great article. But the nomination needs one more thing: in-line citations for two hook facts. Once that is done it will be ready to go. --MelanieN (talk) 17:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Simone Ballard
Gerda, Simone is one our topics for the opera project this month. The only thorough source I could find on her is in German (see here). Would you mind helping? Best.4meter4 (talk) 18:20, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It would be nice to do it during this month since she is one of the collaborative articles for the opera project this month. She could also be submitted as one of the articles for the women in music push. Thanks for helping.4meter4 (talk) 15:39, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That would be great! Thank you. I'll see if I can flesh out Sailer a bit more. Also, are you going to nominate Dolores Ziegler for DYK?4meter4 (talk) 16:09, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes to Delores, thanks in advance for more Sailer. There's a lot in German about her, I could add easily. Emmy Lisken is more of a problem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What a cute puppy!
Hey There. I am deeply sorry to hear about you lose and I am sorry if I offend you in any way as that was truly not my intentions. Best Regards. Hot Pork Pie~~~ has given you a doggy! Doggies promote Wikilove and hopefully this one has made your day much better. Spread WikiLove by placing a doggy on other user's talk pages by adding {{subst:Doggy}} to their talk page. Happy editing!
Thanks, cute visitor! I wasn't offended, just found it strange to have an article proposed for deletion which hasn't happened to me more than twice so far (both my first year), and about a notable person. Please watch the singer for deletion on her way to DYK. I just started the next, making sure she had two inline citations before saving ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 24 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zueignung, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Zueignung" (Dedication), the first published song by Richard Strauss, was dedicated to Heinrich Vogl, the principal tenor of the Munich Court Opera? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zueignung. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hello Gerda! A while back, you expressed interest in reviewing Baron Munchausen should it ever be presented as an FAC … so I'm just writing to let you know that the FA nomination is ongoing and the discussion can be found here. I look forward to any comments you might have, and I hope all's well with you!--Lemuellio (talk) 21:01, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have had the pleasure of reviewing the above. I have suggested a condensed version of the given hook as ALT1. I approved the nomination as given, but of course, I cannot pass on my own hook. However, if you find ALT1 objectionable, I will strike it out and still approve the nomination.
Thank you. After vacation, I barely manage to do a stub every day, she was to complement my compliment to Viva-Verdi. Would you have more on her Desdemona recording and others? - Did you see the ingenious way of the Italians, to have a template with the data of birth and death which doesn't translate to a box but a lead sentence? I wonder how to achieve something similar here. I am so tired of explaining that a parameter "date of birth" is different (and much better) than the prose. Some understood. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Geez, I did intend to write "2016", and I wish that Dreadstar can rest in peace. Don't hesitate to message me if I can be of any service. Yours sincerely --84.90.219.128 (talk) 05:26, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gerda. Adele Lewing, a pianist from Hanover, may interest ytou. I couldn't find much more on her, but perhaps there are some German language sources available. If you're busy with other things, no worries. Wishing you well. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:43, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I hope we can put the barnstar issue behind us. I only meant to console Kiril over being dumped on for trying to to the right thing, not to reward him for blocking someone. Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:06, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We can talk about it, now that my questions are not counted. I didn't like the barnstar when you gave it, because I didn't think Kirill would be dumped, and that the block was a big mistake, going to waste people's time. Yngvadottir was "dumped", to make things worse. If you look at Kirill's talk: I asked him the same questions, but got no answer, - worse. Now my friend died who truly deserved "defender of the Wiki", and left because he tried to do the right thing, but was "dumped". Worse. - So: next time you want to console someone, will you please just console? - I had "He who speaks a word of consolation ..." on my user page until recently, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You deserve a random act of kindness barnstar, just for saying that. Back from wonderful vacation, you'll see my name more often again. Yesterday, all shops were closed, which reminded me that I missed a GA expansion for BWV 125 for the day (not a Sunday, I forgot). - Will need a GF review for the 26th wonderful singer who would have sung the B minor for us if she had been free that weekend. We had Eibenová instead, also lovely. DYK that I took the picture? Bringing a woman in music to the Main page ;) - Nomination in a minute, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I remember back when I was so young I wasn't allowed to use the recordplayer and I had to beg my sister (3,5yrs older) or parents to do it for me. I must've heard the Brandenburg Concerto No. 3, Peter and the Wolf and Peer Gynt at least a million times, and I still listen to them regularly. Peer Gynt. Suite No. 1, Op. 46 is probably the saddest music ever, but hauntingly beautiful. My userboxes aren't very informative (although it is true that the Brotherhood of Nod is the only army I support, mainly because it is fictional and because it has an awesome backstory) so I figured I should give some insight into who I am by my choice of quotes. I don't think you'll like all of them, but maybe you'll like some of them. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 08:16, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for trying, but see also. Quote: "Indeed, if the "wars" could begin to end here it would be a great start in a new year!" (written in 2014) On the same page: "Reversions" (trying to change the guidelines) and "A Statistical Note on Infoboxes". Your help is most welcome, but you probably can use your time better ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Only 2 more minutes: It's best for your health to ignore it. I often mentioned a friend who told me "ignore ignore ignore". If you add an infobox to Pierre Boulez, that is a bold edit. If you take away an infobox on Laurence Olivier that has been there for years, that is improving the article. The same friend who told me to ignore protected LO because of an edit war over the hidden notice about the new lords of the article not wanting an infobox. He was desysopped. May he rest in peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:31, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"New lords of the article"? Your incivility towards others who do not automatically bow down to your opinion is what got you (mercifully) constrained by Arbcom previously, and yet it appears you still haven't learnt, given the several comments recently about other editors who don't agree with you. Good thing Dreadfulstar was desysopped: they acted utterly inappropriately and deserved the full censure of both ANI and Arbcom for their actions under the influence of red mist. – SchroCat (talk) 11:48, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good advice. I was surprised that no one seems to have mentioned the fact that you can easily hide parts of the Wikipedia interface you dislike. For example, if you do NOT want to see infoboxes then you can use CSS to hide them, like so:
.infobox{display:none;}
Unfortunately that doesn't really work the other way around.
Knowing you have an interest in beautiful music...
You are probably already aware of Sir Anthony Hopkins having been a musician before he became a famous actor. I just watched the performance of a waltz he composed 50 yrs ago, and wanted to share it with you in the event you haven't seen it already....[1]Atsme📞📧04:03, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, looks promising. I sing the song of reverted infoboxes on Pierre Boulez, Georges Bizet and Claudio Monteverdi, seems an infectious desease. I should find more sources for the last student of Max Deutsch, Sylvia Hallett. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
User:Gerda Arendt is six years old, - that's not me. Click through on my infobox. I feel like 600 years old today. Pictured on top: the woman who can't believe what she has to see. I saw a performance, conducted by Pierre Boulez. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Aha-Erlebnis. Of course. Thank you Gerda & Floquenbeam.
No need to blush for something I do three times every day there is ;) - look around, it's obvious why I felt old yesterday. I enjoy collaboration today, for revival, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Tentacles
Boy, you sure have your tentacles everywhere, including talk pages. Nothing get by you. I originally wrote testicles. My wife has mine bronzed on her trophy case Bgwhite (talk) 08:39, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have the recipients of Precious on my watch, some 1.5k, and with the user you mean I try to clean up Ferruccio Busoni for his 150th birthday on 10 April, - a giant task (which I saw only after offering help), just look at his two works lists and the discography, - any help welcome. Surprisingly few articles on compositions, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar
I just wanted to give you a barnstar. :) Happy Early Valentine's Day! :D (lolz)
On 12 February 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Glik v. Cunniffe, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that in Glik v. Cunniffe, the court noted that "we have previously recognized that the videotaping of public officials is an exercise of First Amendment liberties"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Glik v. Cunniffe. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Without even looking (no time to do so): waiting for two weeks is nothing, we have unreviewed entries from last year ;) - I will take it - if nobody else does - when I need the next qpq, but that also can take a week. Or is there rush for a specific date? Then mention it at WT:DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
wow thank you. i see! i saw the back up . I thought it would be "outdated" soon, but now I see, there is no cut off?. No there's absolutely no rush. --Wuerzele (talk) 22:28, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Sylvia Hallett
On 13 February 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sylvia Hallett, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the composer and improviser Sylvia Hallett bows both the violin and a spinning bicycle wheel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sylvia Hallett. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Dear Gerda, Thanks for your message. I'm sorry that reinserting David Mitchell's Cantata messed up Michael's other additions. I'm not sure what more details you want. You say you don't know which David Mitchell is referred to. Is there more than one composer called David Mitchell? You'll get more infos at www.christmascantata.com. Hope that's OK, then.Violet Kaplinsky (talk) 21:34, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Violet, thanks for understanding to sign! A first step in this complicated land! - I believe that having the discussion in one place is better, so will come to your talk, which I watch, so you can just write there, and I will see it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I had seen some of your swamp work, not all. Highly commendable and valued, but it must be hard (not "draining", clearly). One learns to understand some of the special lingo here mostly by stumbling across it. Very best wishes to you Gerda. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:26, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't seen all that sad story. Have seen some of how contentions FA and DYK and Wikicup and RFA still are. I mostly stay away from those and just slog away at adding citations and trying to move pages away from the view that science depends on authority rather than evidence or citations. Great Dismal Swamp maroons is one of the great ideas for an article; a different sort of encyclopedia could be built from such inspiration. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:56, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My name is David Mitchell. I gather folk don’t think my Christmas Cantata should be on the Christmas Cantata Wiki site.
Reviews of my Cantata in notable publications include The Scotsman Newspaper, the Christian music magazine, CrossRhythms, the Church of Scotland’s Life and Work. Recent broadcasts (December 2015) include London’s Capital Radio broadcasting a section of the work performed at Westminster Central Halls, under the direction of Gerard Brooks. (I can send you a copy of the Westminster Central Halls programme, if you like.) Capital Radio have also broadcast other parts of the work over the past fifteen years. There are recordings of it on Youtube as well, including one section recorded in Holy Trinity Brussels in December 2015. A full-scale Brussels production is also scheduled for the end of this year. I imagine my Cantata would be better known than it is, if people did not keep removing it from Wikipedia. : )
Clicking the ‘David Mitchell’ link at the bottom of the Christmas Cantata Wiki goes to the David Mitchell disambiguation page. My name used to be there under Other / David C. Mitchell, but someone removed it.
I make no claim to be a person of international importance. (I have never tried to start a Wiki page for myself.) Nevertheless, I am Director of Music in the Anglican Cathedral in Brussels, where I produce the Bach Passions, Mozart and Haydn Masses, and other large works every year. I am also well known as a theologian (a writer on the Book of Psalms), and my work in that area is published by Oxford University Press, Brill, etc.
I’d very much appreciate it if my Cantata could remain on the Christmas Cantata site.
Thanks for explaining, but please check your premises. People think any fact can be mentioned which is notable and verifiable to independent sources. So if you have your reviews, don't send them to me but write who wrote what when in which publication about which performance, best on the article's talk page. - It's a good idea not to start a Wikipedia page on yourself ;) - A link to your name which tells people only that there are many, and none of them is a composer, is not helpful, - I think you understand that. If you look at the listing, there are cantatas which have an article of their own, others which have not, but then by a composer who has an article. We can't list all not-so-notable cantatas by not-so-notable composers. - If you understand that Wikipedia is not to promote knowledge of certain things, it would be most helpful. - Working on BWV 106. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:51, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 20 February 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ilse Hollweg, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ilse Hollweg. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Das Gebetbuch Ottos III., auch als Königsgebetbuch Ottos III. oder als Pommersfelder Gebetbuch bezeichnet, ist eine mittelalterliche Handschrift, die zu den Hauptwerken der ottonischen Buchmalerei gezählt wird.
On 21 February 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Maria Carbone, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Maria Carbone appeared in 1931 as Desdemona in a complete recording of Verdi's Otello, one of her only two recordings? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maria Carbone. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
It's not my idea, and it makes sense to me to respond to a user's wishes. Why introduce any additional parameter, when an image is there in standard size? - In the context of death - however, look around - all this doesn't matter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:53, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Astrid Schirmer
On 22 February 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Astrid Schirmer, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Astrid Schirmer appeared in roles by Richard Wagner, both Venus and Elisabeth in his Tannhäuser, and in the Bayreuth Jahrhundertring as both Ortlinde and Sieglinde? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Astrid Schirmer. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
When I added the princess, because of the stats of her DYK day, I was told "too recent, wait for 25 Feb", I tried again yesterday, still same, haven't tried today yet, it's not my most urgent thing to do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
FYI: I did not yet have van Zwol's and Harten's handbooks at the time I had created Bruckner's early orchestral works (the Four Orchestral Pieces and the Overture in G minor). I have today also restructured and expanded Bruckner's Overture in G minor.
I am also reviewing Bruckner's large religious works. I have already reviewed the early Masses, the Magnificat, the Te Deum, and Psalms 22, 114, 112, 146 & 150. The next round will be the Requiem, Missa solemnis, and Masses Nos. 1, 2 & 3. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 21:22, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Mitchell Christmas Cantata
Dear Gerda, Understood that it doesn't become notable because I say so. I'll get some other people who have sung it and appreciate it to get in touch. Best wishes David C. Mitchell (talk) 21:12, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to explain that enthusiastic singers (I am one of them) are not exactly what Wikipedia considers a RS (Reliable source), stress on independent ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They are an expression of categories the user thinks he is in. I have two red links on my user page myself, and when someone turned one blue, I got furious and changed it. Red is to signal: "exception!", "I don't belong!" - This has nothing to do with useful user categories such as what language(s) a user speaks. - General rule: don't touch other user's user pages. Period. Unless it's vandalism, which you can check in the history: when someone else edited. (As - sorry- I handled yours.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 2 March 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Antonia Fahberg, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Antonia Fahberg, a lyric soprano of the Bavarian State Opera for 25 years, recorded Bach with Karl Richter, including an aria described as "a beguiling and beautifully restrained performance"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Antonia Fahberg. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I am not sure if you have seen Bob Arno's work already but I think you would really enjoy that too. He is fighting crime in a very unconventional way. On YouTube there are many videos of him in action. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 12:27, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Almost every good editor I come across has been awarded a "Precious". It is just too amazing! I have nothing better than this... I too am a cat, you see ;)
Thank you! Suggestions of good editors without Precious can be made here, or on the talk, or you can pass it directly, models also on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:30, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think I mentioned that all is clear what I initiated but I will give it another read a little later. Any date consideration? I have a FAC open, hopingto see it appear on 27 Mar, scheduling was up to 20 yesterday ... - All is set, I think but not everybody said so yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still unsure what you mean by the "performance material(s)" sentence. Perhaps your "news" in the grammar is "Only the performance materials from Leipzig are extant." But that's unlikely. Why "only"? What else would be extant? The first oboe that was used in the performance? I've removed it pending clarification. I've supported explicitly, although I thought my previous overall comment would have been enough. Tony(talk) 12:22, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I may have misunderstood, it read to me as "support provided the details will be fixed", - also didn't know how a delegate would read it. Will try to clarify that we miss material from an earlier performance. Not sure what you mean by "unlikely" above? I should not say "only", but something about "earlier"? Please watch and reword if still unclear. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:30, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK nomination of Concerto for Piano and String Quartet (Busoni)
Hey Gerda! I think it might be as simple as a typo. 1987 instead of 1978 in the lead paragraph? I'm going to be offline for a couple days, starting in a little over 2 hours, so if you're around a quick check might be best. Not that I'm in a hurry, and it's in plenty of time for his birthday, but my absent-mindedness might shine through, and I'm afraid I'll forget to check when I come back. 78.26(spin me / revolutions)19:58, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am the synonym for infobox, DYK? - (I was just told that my mentioning that a certain link is present in the infobox makes that whole discussion a "discussion about infoboxes". See Village pump (policy), if you want entertainment.) Without having worked on Kafka, much of the last three years would have remained a mystery. - I am in the process to add infoboxes to "my" old articles, 2010 was a lot of work, finishing 2011, just now Theater Schwetzingen. - Sorry for my typo, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not a problem! I had thought it was two separate but closely related works, published separately, but now "the light has dawned". Regarding infoboxes and village pumps, I am generally in favor of infoboxes, but that's more entertainment than I can handle. No, my personal Kafka would relate to the notability of record labels, and that I have to constantly defend them from deletion, because no one else will, and they're always of a genre I truly don't care about but some discographer 75 years from now will thank me. Continue to fight the good fight, Gerda. 78.26(spin me / revolutions)21:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sure I spin;) - All operas by Verdi (thanks to Viva-Verdi, long live his memory!), Wagner, Puccini, - the arbitrators didn't listen when I told them that Carmen is more attractive with a Carmen shown instead of the composer. Took about two years, same for Bach ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
GA?
Hello Gerda, you won't know me but both you and me have articles in the GA queue for music. I wonder if I could review your Sie_werden_aus_Saba_alle_kommen,_BWV_65, and you could review my New Model Army (band)? I'm quite familiar with both subjects. I don't mind if you fail it, I'd just like to know if I'm doing anything wrong (it's my first GA request) and the waiting time is very long! Thankyou, Laura. Laura Jamieson (talk)01:34, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Laura, nice idea, only I never do GA review because I am not a native speaker and couldn't really do justice to the prose. Ask Jaguar and Yash!, my heroes in fast and good delivery, - I ask them only when it's urgent (such as "need it for DYK a certain date") ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(dropping in) I don't think post punk is Gerda's thing (though I believe there is a good early music shop in Bradford that may be of interest) but I had a quick look at the article and I'm afraid I'm not inclined to pass it in its current state as there are too many unsourced sections, a few of the sources look unreliable, there is no overall discussion on musical style and equipment. The history section could do with a trim, due weight should balance towards the band's most commercially and critically successful period. Sorry. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)08:35, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ritchie, no that's exactly what I needed, as I've never done this before! I'll have a look at what you said. Trimming the history section might be a bit tricky for a band that's been going 36 years though! Thanks - Laura Jamieson (talk)17:30, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Fantasia
Sorry - meant to reply earlier but sometimes life gets in the way of Wikipedia... Replying here as the nomination page is now closed. Bold is good - go for it! Thanks for the good idea on improving the hook and sorry I didn't get round to following through. BTW I love the DYK on Dvorak's 8th - love listening to it and have played (trombone) in it.
I've not heard Gounod's St. Cecilia Mass - will watch out for a performance. As you say, surprising that there was no article - but it keeps us busy finding and filling gaps. William's Missa Cambrensis was very good - let's hope we don't have to wait another 40+ years for another performance. Definitely worth an article. Regards Robevans123 (talk) 10:09, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for coming over! The DYK for the Eighth was my reply to the outcome of an arbitration case the name of which I may not mention or no supper (see just above). The DYK is kept on my user page, for that reason. The DYK about ice-breaking as a political statement is my most recent reply to the same ;) - Did you see that your hook will appear on 7 March? In the end, the wording of a hook doesn't matter too much, - yours has the advantage of a long bold title ;) - Gaps are one thing, but a major work in the repertoire not covered is different. Gounod's work needs a cathedral. I love his soft beginning of the Gloria, not glaring trumpets (reserved for a - overly firm - Credo and Sanctus) but a soft female voice addressing a frightened flock of shepherds, with a four-part choir humming comfort. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gerda and thanks for all your continuing support of WiR. I saw you deleted the list of published DYKs on the Art+Feminism page. In my opinion this was not duplication as SusunW's list seems to cover all the DYKs and not just those on Art and Feminism. But now I have a problem. Today we have Toda Embroidery which certainly relates to women's art. It's not easy to include in the table as I'll have to go searching for templates, etc., and will also have to change all the hard-coded numbers in the table. I think it's important to keep track of the DYKs in connection with each event, most of which are published after the event has closed. I've been doing this for all the other sectors but perhaps it's not worth it. One solution would be to add the area of interest next to the listings under showcase on the main page but this would also entail a lot of extra work. Any suggestions?--Ipigott (talk) 08:29, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think of a different background colour and number column for those of the ediathon? For the moment, please list the others on top without bothering to integrate, we can do that. Need to go soon, but will look into it later today. - If there was away to do the first column numbering automatically, that would be helpful! I don't know enough about tables, and those who know leave or are driven away. Anybody watching and proving that's wrong?? The topic is linked from my user page, look for the bottom red heart, then to March.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I added the five to the listing, marked by background and numbered. I feel that there are many more belonging, but have no time to go after them. I added green background for those created for ediathon Music, conservatively not for those about music but added later (or otherwise without the template on the talk), intentionally without numbers. Suggest to avoid numbering until appeared ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:29, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good afternoon Gerda. We keep running into each other, this time at Manon Lescaut (Puccini), which I found full of errors and that was just by looking at Act I! I muast say I was never fully persuaded of the merits of jettisoning {{tl:Puccini operas}}, but it seems to have happened across all his opera pages, so it would appear to be fait accompli. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 17:40, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Michael (close to midnight now): background was in 2013, introduction of {{infobox opera}} with something about the opera, not the (always the same) image of the composer no matter how old he was when he composed the piece, and a way to get away from the article as soon as you enter it (+ it took me years to understand that something happens if you click on "show"). Plenty of words archived on project opera, but we could also just look at the future ;) - Heard the Manon from the Met yesterday! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I had a feeling you were there at Manon - good that we could share something :) Infoboxes were originally designed to go in the top right hand corner, for maximum visibiity and ease of access. We know many readers neve read all the way down to the bottom. I would think a compromise box - I experimented a bit - would have an image from the opera, basic information and a linked list of the composers other operas. I base that on experience in other projects such as plants and history. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 18:24, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the discussions in the development of infobox opera (fear not, it's not long), the option to have the list of the composer's other works/operas in the box was debated, but not taken because it's redundant to the navbox at the bottom. (If there's no navbox, create it.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:39, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gerda. First time I've used wiki talk - hope this works! Thanks for your comment on the score: I have several pages of historical/analytical comments still to append to the score (see, for example, BWV 111) but they need to be tidied up. I do not know how to add an external web link, so I have kept things simple. Have just added BWV 106 (notes to follow). I have several Bach Cantata scores in Finale .MUS format (which was how I hoped to distribute them - but the results for figured bass etc are too unpredictable); if you or anyone wanted the original .MUS source I'd be happy to forward it (eg for arranging, part-editing etc). All the best, Mark. Timmy Tune Smith (talk) 17:43, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
...stay away from my talk page unless it is absolutely necessary for you to be there. Your repeated choice to intentionally poke, troll, and taunt me is not appreciated and is not welcome in my userspace. As well, your snarky "send thanks" choices with me are not appreciated, either. I have no time for or interest in your immature behavior toward me that's now starting to border on harassment. I know you know what I'm talking about, so please don't try to feign ignorance and/or innocence. I'm well aware of you have a number of Wiki-fans. No doubt there will be a number of them who will balk at what I'm posting here and want to defend you. While your memory on the chain of events I'm referring to certainly doesn't need to be refreshed, anyone reading this who might be aghast at my comments will need diffs to have a clue as to what I am referring:
Just in case I have not yet been clear enough for you: cut the crap and leave me alone. I get it -- you're still pissed that I removed content from a BLP article about a soprano you like that was filled with peacocking and unsourced claims (see the following links as to why my actions were appropriate per BLP guidelines [3][4], [5], [6]). That doesn't give you the right to continue to poke and harass me about those needed and appropriate edits. The bottom line is, I am asking as strongly as possible for you to "buzz off". Please be sure to do that. -- WV ● ✉✓02:07, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing Winkelvi does has any rational basis. Unfortunately for all involved, he sees any criticism of him as a free pass to hound and smear you across this website. So you two should be prepared to deal with that. 107.107.57.70 (talk) 02:51, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Can't help smiling, waking up to this ;) - I won't look at diffs, just say that I clicked "Thank you" for Winkelvi's revert yesterday, and I seriously meant it. @Winkelvi, I see no reason to appear on your talk again. Please don't give me another. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To avoid a reiteration of sterile discussions with Nikki, who still considers herself as a Bruckner's specialist and as the owner of the pages about Bruckner's Rondo in C minor and Intermezzo in D minor, I have during several weeks not introduced changes to these pages.
I have now restructured and expanded the sections "History" (data from Harten and van Zwol) and "Music" (description of the score and quote from Harten) of this two pages, and this time— to my astonishment— Nikki did approve the majority of my changes. Despite the text coming from popularising sources, which I still find inappropriate, these two pages have now got a— for me— acceptable quality level.
I just added what could be a hook. With an unimpeachable English language reference. You may add may as a cocontributor to the DYK, if you don't mind. 7&6=thirteen (☎)21:37, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, but not what I meant (I got that one, with thanks.) - You said you would add me to the contributors in the nom, but didn't in the credit section. You could copy the credit ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:06, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 15 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Max Deutsch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Max Deutsch intentionally destroyed his compositions so that his only surviving legacy would be his students? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Max Deutsch. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Good afternoon Gerda – I've reviewed your DYK for this hymn. It's nearly ready, but I've identified some unreferenced sentences. Pls could you have a look at my comments at the nomination. I probably won't be online much until Sunday afternoon at the earliest, so no rush. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!)14:11, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Melitta Marxer
HELP! I get very few sources, okay, it's Liechtenstein, so I get it's tiny. But, this indicates to me she recently died. I cannot seem to find any obituary. Seems to me that the woman who led the group of 12 to speak before the Council or Europe to pressure for suffrage in Liechtestein would have an obituary? There is also supposedly an article about her in the book Mit Macht zur Wahl: 100 Jahre Frauenwahlrecht in Europa which I cannot find in a format that is accessible. I am also curious if [7] is her daughter. Any chance you can find any German sources on her? SusunW (talk) 18:22, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please be patient, I have little time this weekend. Sounds interesting. Obituary culture is different in Europe. The conductor who died in December: I happened to see a miniature announcement of his death in the newspaper, by the conservatory he had directed. He never took himself serious, only the music. DYK on Wikipedia15, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I love doing Messiah -- in our town, the churches sometimes have even taken turns hosting a Christmas time community sing-along of the entire thing (or at least the more popular excerpts). Montanabw(talk)00:09, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I love doing Messiah too, unless some masochist insists on doing the DC in "TTSS" and I am not match-fit. This makes it (subjectively) nine hours long. Then we have the weeping and the gnashing of teeth, not to mention the going purple and the falling off chairs, an ting. :( DBaK (talk) 01:35, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
INMHO, I don't think is it a good idea to include an external link to a page where you can illegally download the score of the concerto. The edition uploaded is from 1986 so no PD. What do you think? Wikipedia:External_links#Restrictions_on_linking I appreciate any single one of your contributions and intend to translate some of your articles in the future. Triplecaña (talk) 10:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 17 March 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Antigone (Honegger), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the premiere of Arthur Honegger's first opera, Antigone, was staged in sets by Picasso and costumes by Coco Chanel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Antigone (Honegger). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Der Herr denket an uns, BWV 196 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Yash! -- Yash! (talk) 19:40, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good evening! (Or maybe good morning, depending on your time zone; I myself am on Canadian Pacific Time.)
Thank you very much for the all the great information! It will be very useful in the very near future! I believe that we are truly very fortunate to have individuals like yourself to help guide newbies such as myself to this wonderful community! I'm glad you alerted me to the fact that my edits/posts are NOT automatically signed and that I should sign my username (via the 4x tildes) on conclusion of any edit/post. I'm also very glad you informed me that "Wessi" and "Ossi" are not German words! I would've had no idea otherwise! I'm looking forward to working with you in the future and wish you a great day!
Thank you, James, feel the same, - and yes, it's morning, the infobox on my user page tells you where I (Wessi) sing, Rossini rehearsal today, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. My articles for the project are marked with the heart on my user page, - I am very proud that one of them made it to the Main page on IWD 8 March (pictured on top). I also maintain the DYK outcomes: reviews needed! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gerda. You've probably noticed that I've removed several additions to the New Articles box at the top of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera. It's a place to mention the articles which have been created in the current month (and sometimes also the previous one at the changeover of months). The articles are chosen to highlight the variety of topics currently being created. It's not a DYK repository or a place to highlight meritorious work or to mark anniversaries of composers, and especially ones who never wrote an opera. If you want to highlight more DYKs, I suggest creating new pages for the DYK rotation at Portal:Opera. We could use many more. The only requirements are: a limit to three DYKs per page, the exact wording of the DYK must be used, and there must be an image related to one of the DYKs for each group of three. The instructions are at Portal:Opera/DYK. Alternatively, you can list some of articles you'd like to highlight at Portal:Opera/Selected anniversaries, although note that if you add one, one the existing ones will have to be removed, and it's a good idea to have a variety of topics in each month, i.e. some births, some deaths, some premieres, some debuts, some opera houses burning down—that sort of thing. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:50, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't dare to change the portal, and - as I learned from you - as all singers are under the wings of project opera even if they hate opera, - where would they be shown (just for a day) if not there? I don't think the singer was presented there when "she" was a stub in 2014 ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No she probably wasn't back then, but adding it two years later isn't the answer. I'd be happy to create some more Portal DYK pages, if you find it too daunting. Just list the DYKs you'd like to add at Portal talk:Opera/DYK. I've got it on watch and will create the pages and add them to the rotation for you. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Until after Easter, I will have not much time for opera, absorbed by Bach and his early works, - I nominated one cantata for GA already today, and plan another, + rehearsal on Mondays, this week also Tuesday, and then singing. - Remembering Viva-Verdi also, - the first entry in his "guest book" was dated 21 March. (Will be closed 23 March.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Acknowledging your Thanks tab
Last week you were nice enough to send a thank tab to me when the RfC at Bach was being poorly edited by User:Francis Schonken and I corrected it. This morning I tried to add a short reference from the British Library on Bach which that same editor started removing. If you have a chance, I would like to follow all proprieties and would ask if you could return my edit to the article after checking the citation which I have linked in my edit. After that, the other editors can continue their regular editing. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 20:22, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't follow, but you can do it yourself now, he is blocked for some days, - fix it in peace. With a Bach cantata for TFA on Easter Sunday, I have enough work I will not finish ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Gott ist mein König, BWV 71 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Yash! -- Yash! (talk) 17:01, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is to me a disaster! I know him as an excellent editor of Bach and related articles. Please help to undo this as soon as possible. Marlindale (talk) 00:57, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We work fine on his talk page, where he said - wisely - that an unblock procedure would be a waste of time. (I have never been blocked but in the case, I would do the same.) I concur. I will be over soon. I take improvements drafted there to articles, and you can do the same. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Requiem (Fauré) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sainsf -- Sainsf (talk) 05:20, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In BWV 172, the phrase following He was appointed reads weird as there is a break between it and the quote template. Should there be a colon or something like "He was appointed with the following conditions:" The article has been translated into Spanish and now on FAC, so maybe I'll ask for some clarifications in the future. Cheers! Triplecaña (talk) 13:35, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps there's a better wording. With the appointment, he received a title (Konzertmeister) and new privileges, - can you say that better? - Thanks for translating, impressive! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not the translator though I am reviewing it at the moment. I don't feel bold today to edit it :P. Other issue: "No. 171–180". Universitätsbibliothek Heidelberg. Retrieved 8 April 2013. should be on Bibliography under scores right? Triplecaña (talk) 13:48, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am busy, but have an eye on it. Please try to respond without me first, then we'll see what's left. Some things are easy to fix, such removing a "well" that seems unencyclopedic. - Perhaps have a look how I usually respond to points raised, for example BWV 4, - same reviewer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Concerto for Piano and String Quartet (Busoni)
Hi Gerda Arendt. I'm an editor of the Italian Wikipedia. I'm trying to participate to an IEG with the project "Women are everywhere". You will find the draft at this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_are_everywhere It would be great if you could have a look at it. I need any kind of suggestion or advice to improve it. Support or endorsement would be fantastic. Many thanks,--Kenzia (talk) 12:30, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 4 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Margareta Hallin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Margareta Hallin could have performed internationally, but decided to stay in her homeland instead? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Margareta Hallin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
and sorry that I missed your little message sooner this week. I was thinking that maybe I could find something to your taste that still doesn't exist here and I found that French composer (I had never heard about before). As is written on my user's page, I cannot translate from French at a level that would meet the standards we all expect from WP although I may have a try after all. Please let me know what you'd like me to create from the frWP that could be of some interest. Tschüss, LouisAlain (talk) 21:44, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, just waking up (kidding, was off today). Will see, busy with Reger, for his centenary, - any compositions perhaps? I remember that the French Bach cantatas were compete much sooner then the English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 9 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Die Tageszeiten, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Richard Strauss composed Die Tageszeiten, setting poems about four times of the day, for the men's chorus that serenaded him for his 60th birthday? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Die Tageszeiten. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
This editor has been identified as anAwesome Wikipedianon 10 April 2016.
I'm sure someone has beat me to it, but if they haven't (and even if they have), you are precious and awesome for being so kind and welcoming in this often hostile environment. Hats off to Gerda! Kafka Liz (talk) 07:36, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! It can always be repeated, and I do so a lot. I was told on 3 August 2010 first, and will not forget, repeated 18 February 2012 (look for my name in the list) and a few times on my talk, like yours ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Gottes Zeit ist die allerbeste Zeit, BWV 106
Den neuen Guten Artikel (und seine Autorin) auf jeglichen Wegen bekröne der Segen! Thank you for getting an article I created to GA – performing this cantata was the high point of my rather short choir career back in 1999... now I feel old but... Dein Alter sei wie deine Jugend :) Happy editing, —Kusma (t·c) 20:39, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There were times when I felt dominated by nothing but ill-will, and just when I was ready to call it quits, along came the magical bright spots like the kindness and recognition you gave me - "A year ago, you were recipient no. 1072 of Precious, a prize of QAI!" - to correct the imbalance and remind me of everything that's good about being a WP editor. You are "precious" and a very special Wikipedian in my book. Thank you for all you do and all you've done to make editing an enjoyable experience.Atsme📞📧13:18, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The infobox on my user page will tell you ;) - Rehearsal with orchestra and soloists was promising, surprise may come when a fourth choir from Belgium will join us today. Will be listed here after the event ;) - Read the article: result of a merge, and proof that compromise is possible, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:52, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I gave the requiem a listen and was quite happy I did. As for FAC, I'm sure it'll be up for at least a couple or three weeks, and so I'll certainly look at it during that time. I'm wading through a strange combination of busy-ness and laziness right at the moment, though. Lingzhi ♦ (talk)02:45, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As said in the opening, the composer's centenary of death is on 11 May. You could make initial comments, for example, - and thank you for listening! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some statements that might be added to the Gerri Major lede. I can no longer look at the article with fresh eyes and would welcome help in beefing up the top section. -- Delabrede (talk) 17:49, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
During World War I she was a major in the American Red Cross. Thereafter she became a society columnist and editor for African American newspapers in her home city of New York as well as Pittsburgh, Chicago, and Baltimore, and at the time of her death held joint positions as associate editor of Jet and senior staff editor of Ebony magazine. In 1936 a newspaper reporter said her talent for writing vivid prose, her editing skill, and her ability to maintain a wide circle of influential friends brought her fame and gave her "a unique position similar to that of an arbiter over the local social set."
In 1928 she was the first African American woman announcer in commercial radio.
She was an active participant in civic organizations that worked to improve health and education in New York's African American community and for ten years from 1936 to 1946 was a publicity specialist for the Central Harlem Health District.
Nice idea, to think together. - I would drop the radio announcement one-liner. (I dropped the ref, but only for here.) Start a new sentence for "At the time of her death ..." Try that sentence at the end, or after the quote, because the list of paces and papers seems long. One more comma after "community", that's all I woud change. Comments by watchers welcome! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I didn't feel comfortable dropping the ref after the quote (if that's what you meant). I revised the last sentence because (a) her "health and education" charitable work aren't strongly supported in the text (though they could be) and (b) it seemed to make sense to give a time frame for her civic org. work. -- Delabrede (talk) 00:19, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Gerda. Given your interest in the front page of the EN Wikipedia, I thought I would drop you a line to ask whether you have any explanation as to why there has been no mention of William Shakespeare today. As you may know, 23 April is widely celebrated as Shakespeare's anniversary (both for his birth and death as there are no accurate records of the exact dates of either but they were around the 23rd). This year is particularly important as it is the 400th anniversary of his death. There are special celebrations in his memory today, among the most important are at the Globe Theatre in London and at Kronborg in Denmark. Google's main page celebrates the event as does the front page of the French Wikipedia. I'm pretty certain there must be FA articles or GAs which could have been included on the main page. If it's not too much trouble, perhaps you could liaise with those responsible and ask why nothing was done about it.--Ipigott (talk) 10:36, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I am quite absorbed with the upcoming only 100 years of Max Reger: 147 opus numbers (and many more works without one), and only two handfuls with an article, a shame. All help welcome, such as creating stubs. Easy: look at Max Reger works and pick one, - ref and score are in the last column. - When walking up the stairs to this organ loft, we remember that Reger did the same, in his Sturm- und Trankzeit. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Did you know that while Shakespeare is missing, a friend of mine appears on the Main page right now? I think we will have to remove the label "cabal of the outcasts" from WP:QAI: a member with an article (DYK), also an arbitrator! a member returned from vanishing! two members free from their arbcom restrictions! two recipients of Precious recently unbanned! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I followed your suggestion, Gerda, but it's really too late to do anything about it. Pity Shakespeare is not remembered for his music or I'm sure you would have contributed something. There are in fact a variety of bits and pieces which have been composed in connection with his plays, for example [8]. And there's quite a bit at Category:Music based on works by William Shakespeare.--Ipigott (talk) 12:48, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I tried to make it less "my" Precious, - you could do it ;) - easy [[Talk:Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious|templates on the talk]], --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:36, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Next time you can add this step yourself. - To find the most recent ones, click on "list", second word in the article. (Or look at the arrival history.) - I slowed down for health reasons last year, - help most welcome! - Reviews: there's no urgency for the GA, but for my FAC, comments welcome, - I want to see that in good shape by 11 May. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Captain! I have come across a lot of people who deserve this. Will soon drop by your FAC, I wonder if you can talk to one of the coordinators about the deadline. Sainsf<^>Feel at home07:09, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, sorry about Dreadstar. Meet you soon, I am taking on many reviews just now, will soon give your articles a push forward. Excellent work! Sainsf<^>Feel at home07:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And I wish I had told you (all) that I left it untranslated, because I had asked Moonraker. No problem, excellent work on old German. It would be "Tote" today. + Reger added an e to organist without making it a plural (rather Italian) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 1 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Befreit, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Richard Dehmel(pictured) said that "Befreit", the Lied setting of his poem by Richard Strauss, was "a little bit too soft compared to the text, but it appeals to most people"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Befreit. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
And thank you for making the necessary adjustements to this article. I should have been more careful about some details. My intention is to create here as many articles about French opera librettists as possible, so it's quite likely that you may be interested in the final result. LouisAlain (talk) 10:33, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is a collaborative project: you do what you can do, I do what I can do, + French WP is different from English, - article titles, flags, referencing. Koning could go to DYK if "he" was a little longer and had inline citations (Compare Hans-Dieter Bader). I don't know if you want to go for that or move to the next one. I met "him" on project opera, pictured ;)
Gerda, I'm concerned to see this at WP:FAR within two months of its promotion. The FAR review rules state that "Three to six months is regarded as the minimum time between promotion and nomination here, unless there are extenuating circumstances such as a radical change in article content." What are the extenuating circumstances here, apart from one editor's personal view of the content? And in any event, the rules require that nomination be preceded by an informal stage in which "concerned editors attempt to directly resolve issues with the existing community of article editors, and to informally improve the article". Why was this stage evidently sidestepped? I'm also puzzled that the coordinators haven't stepped in to question this breach of procedure. What are your views on this? Brianboulton (talk) 09:13, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Brianboulton: the informal stage where "concerned editors attempt to directly resolve issues with the existing community of article editors, and to informally improve the article" was not sidestepped, see Talk:Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4#WP:FAR? – I had planned to let that stage run for a longer period of time, but Gerda's continual forum hopping (WP:TPYES: "Duplicating the same discussion in multiple sections on a talk page, or on multiple pages (see WP:FORUMSHOP) causes confusion, erodes general awareness of points being made, and disrupts the flow of conversation on the topic." – see below) jumped the gun, hoping to get some stability in the discussion by having it in a single place (Wikipedia:Featured article review/Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4/archive1). Can you help to get this message accross? --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:08, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This failed WP:FORUMSHOP which requires the following: "Queries placed on noticeboards and talk pages should be phrased as neutrally as possible, in order to get uninvolved and neutral additional opinions." Instead of just mentioning "There is a discussion about whether we should use Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4 or Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4 as an article title going on in the "Todes Banden vs. Todesbanden" section at the article's talk page. Please comment there not here." Instead, you started to give your arguments in favour of one of the two alternatives. Fails "phrased neutrally", and so de facto starts the same discussion in another place, leaving those having a different opinion with an akward choice: not replying in the new forum may be interpreted as agreement with the arguments, replying confirms the split of the discussion. In other words the WP:FORUMSHOP policy has a reason for being worded the way it is. --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:47, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Francis, I got that now (see below). - I imagine how different things had been if you had followed basic WP:BRD, for the page move and for unbolding the redirect. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:38, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I must say, that I too was puzzled and dismayed by this, Brian, although I haven't intervened at the FAR, as this isn't my subject area. The person who initiated the FAR started by making swingeing changes to the content with no prior discussion on April 26th [10]. This included unilaterally moving the page to a new title. Gerda objected to the page move and participated in the post hoc discussion at Talk:Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4 on April 26th, but he refused to participate any further in that discussion after less than a day. Instead, he continued festooning the article with maintenance tags, said he was taking to it to FAR because of them, and unilaterally closed the move discussion [11]. He made no attempt whatsoever to discuss the problems he had suddenly perceived on the Talk page with other editors or to address his own maintenance tags before initiating the FAR. Surely that's not acceptable, either by FAR procedures or by the standards of common courtesy? Voceditenore (talk) 10:43, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) No radical changes until the one who requested the FAR made them. If you ask me, the best thing to do would be to restore the version before these changes (including a page move), and discuss every single one on the talk page. Francis seems to be unaware that even a FA is never "complete". Steps towards improvement are always welcome, don't need a formal (misunderstood?) procedure. When such a change is reverted as bold, however, it needs to be discussed, not edit-warred. One little example: I believe that the reader is helped enough to understand BWV by a simple footnote, while allegedly some guideline requests a link on first occurence, which is in the lead (as part of the title that should be bold as a redirect).
G: Christ lag in Todes Banden (also spelled Todesbanden)[a] ("Christ lay in death's bonds" or "Christ lay in the snares of death"), BWV 4,[b] is a cantata for Easter by German composer Johann Sebastian Bach, one of his earliest church cantatas.
^The two-word version was Luther's original and has again been adopted by the NBA.
The editors of the Neue Bach-Ausgabe knew what they did when changing from "Todesbanden" to the grammatically correct "Todes Banden", which is also closer to Luther's hymn.
Showing two bold German names that differ only slightly seems not a helpful start in the article.
I believe that BWV 4 should be bold, as almost a synonym for the cantata, and part of the title.
I believe that a link to one of the longest articles Wikipedia has to offer (BWV, see talk of that article) is a disservice to our readers.
I believe that offering the more literal translation "death's bonds" is a service. (Imagine sourcing for both translations, - omitted here only to avoid error messages.)
I could do without "German composer" but editors before us had it, and I respect their work.
I try to stay out of the procedure. Perhaps you would be heard? - When I inform project Classical music, the relevant project, of a discussion on the article talk, it's "disruptive" "unallowed canvassing", - there's little I can say in response to that. - I work on Reger (and Pentecost and Trinity), looking forward, and simply have no time for any of this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Duplicating the same discussion on multiple pages (see WP:FORUMSHOP) causes confusion, erodes general awareness of points being made, and disrupts the flow of conversation on the topic. I think I explained this to you already multiple times, in my own words (while you don't like to be given a clickable shortcut). Now I copied it from WP:TPYES. Sorry for the clickable shortcut, but that's the applicable guideline. The more you start discussions in different places on topics that are already actively discussed elsewhere, the more I oppose the practice. Re. "I try to stay out of the procedure" – your loss; starting a discussion about the content of that procedure here, while the procedure is still going on is however somewhat questionable in view of guidelines (WP:TPYES) and policies (WP:FORUMSHOP, as indicated in the quoted guideline). --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:08, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Francis, I was about to say the same thing thing as Gerda. She was asked here for her views on what Brianboulton (a long-term participant at FA and one of the TFA coordinators) felt was a potentially inappropriate and out-of-process FAR initiated by you. It is perfectly appropriate for her to respond here. You have a point that having a parallel discussion about the page name (amongst other general issues about page naming) at WikiProject Classical music was sub-optimal and should be avoided. However, your premature closing of the article talk page discussion and initiation of the FAR to allegedly re-focus the discussion was highly inappropriate, and frankly gives the appearance of being retaliatory. I also suggest you modify your generally hectoring and aggressive tone. Gerda, it might be helpful in future to alert a project about a discussion elsewhere in a way which does not propose a particular point of view, as this can lead to parallel discussions. Best to simply say something neutral and short like: There is currently a discussion at Talk:Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4 on whether a composition should carry its published name as an article title, and if so, how is that determined.Voceditenore (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've been out all day and thus unable to respond until now. Having just read the above thread and re-read other related text, I'm convinced that this FAR is a clear breach of procedure that needs to be halted without delay. Francis, on 26 April you moved the article title with no prior talkpage discussion, and closed the discussion that followed the same day. The next day you opened a new thread beginning "Maybe about time to take this to WP:FAR?" What made you think that was the appropriate step to take at this stage? The WP:FAR page makes it clear that the review process should be preceded by a stage in which "concerned editors attempt to directly resolve issues with the existing community of article editors, and to informally improve the article", yet apart from the wrangle with Gerda over the article title, there had been no relevant discussion whatever at this point. There followed five days' perfunctory discussion in which only you and Gerda participated before you instigated the FAR. In my experience this stage often lasts several weeks, with the involvement of numerous editors.
Francis, you claim in the FAR that the three-to-six months' minimum period after promotion that normally applies before a FAR should be ignored, because of the proviso on "extenuating circumstances". In this case these "circumstances" are merely your particular views about the article's content, and your wrecking-ball tactics in imposing them without discussion except through edit summaries. That is not a tenable position. You say somewhere, "I'm not in the habit of following FACs" – well, maybe you should, but in any event you're not entitled to dismiss that recent process out of hand as you appear to be doing.
The issue has become a lot more difficult to resolve, through what Voceditenore refers to as your "generally hectoring and aggressive tone". I'm prepared to accept that this was unintentional, and that you have a genuine concern to improve the article. If that is so, you can remedy the situation by doing three things: withdraw the FAR immediately, open a new discussion thread on the talk page, and (per Voceditenore) moderate your tone. You should list your concerns not in the accusatory form with which you begin your contribution to the FAR, but as points for civilised discussion. Try and involve other editors – this should not be a duel between you and Gerda. If after a suitable period there is clearly no agreement in sight, then is the time to perhaps think about FAR. And the three-month limit will no longer apply by then. Brianboulton (talk) 20:06, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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On 4 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fritz Stein, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Fritz Stein found in an archive orchestral parts of the Jena Symphony, which he published as possibly an early work by Beethoven? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fritz Stein. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fritz Stein), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 8 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Philipp Wolfrum, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Max Reger dedicated Der Einsiedler to conductor Philipp Wolfrum and his choir, but they performed the premiere only after the composer's death, together with his Requiem? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Philipp Wolfrum. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Philipp Wolfrum), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 9 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Der 100. Psalm, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Der 100. Psalm, an extended setting of Psalm 100 for choir, orchestra, and organ by Max Reger, was premièred simultaneously in Chemnitz and Breslau? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Der 100. Psalm. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Der 100. Psalm), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
The best you can do is putting a comment on the discussion page of the concerned free scores. It is how I solved an issue in 2012 (there was a page "Ave Maria, WAB 5", in which there were scores of "Ave Maria, WAB 6" with a description of "Ave Maria, WAB 5"...). It is now OK, i.e., a page "Ave Maria, WAB 6" with correct scores and description.
Would you - a trusted member who already made valuable contributions - do that for me? The BWV number doesn't go well together with the old cantata name (before there were BWV numbers), - change one or the other. Bach-Cantatas changed the cantata name. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I like the short poem, it has echoes of this from the Church of England's service for the burial of the dead: "Man that is born of a woman hath but a short time to live, and is full of misery. He cometh up, and is cut down, like a flower; he fleeth as it were a shadow, and never continueth in one stay." That clearly has its origins in these lines from the Book of Job:
"Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble. He cometh forth like a flower, and is cut down: he fleeth also as a shadow, and continueth not." (Der Mensch, vom Weibe geboren, lebt kurze Zeit und ist voll Unruhe, geht auf wie eine Blume und fällt ab, flieht wie ein Schatten und bleibt nicht.)
It's a pity to lose "nur eine kleine Zeit" from the title. I shouldn't say "flourish" for bestehen, "endure" would be nearer the mark, and we are better with the biblical echo, simply "Man" and not "a man". Given the age of the poem, I should make this title "Man liveth and endureth" or "Man liveth and endureth but a short time". Moonraker (talk) 02:28, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is wonderful inspiration! I - a woman - am still sad about "Man" but given the time of the poetry (and the biblical origin) it's probably right. "Endure" is the best word for "bestehen"! Can we say something for "kleine Zeit" that suggests that it is unusual and poetic, while "kurze Zeit" (short time) would be normal. - Feel free to add all this to the article (which is about the poem as well as the motet, compare Traum), including the biblical origin, - I'm on vacation. - I remember singing the "Man that is born of a woman hath but a short time to live" in Rutter's Requiem, also with the Reger-Chor. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:16, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add something to the article, if you haven't already. I agree of course that "a short time" is plain English, but that's the kind that makes the best poetry. In this case, it's the word "but" (an archaism for "only") that gives a clear echo of the burial service. (In English the word "man" can also mean both sexes, something like "humankind", although it isn't politically correct any more. A conservative woman who's a chairman will say she's a chairman, but a feminist will say she's a "chairperson" or even a "chair".) Moonraker (talk) 22:03, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Christ lag in Todes Banden, WAB 4
Dear Gerda,
Before changing something in IMSLP, it should first be consistent in Wikipedia.
You changed on 6 May 2016 the title in the infobox to "Christ lag in Todes Banden, WAB 4", but the title of the page was still "Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4" because of a redirection from "Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4" - a redirection made by Francis on 26 April 2016. I have just reverted the redirection.
NB: I do not want to have troubles with Francis by doing it...
I have made the change in IMSLP, i.e., a redirection from "Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4" to "Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4". See Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4.
On 12 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Der Einsiedler, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Max Reger regarded his composition Der Einsiedler, a setting of a poem by Eichendorff for baritone, choir and orchestra, as "among the most beautiful things I've ever written"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Der Einsiedler. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Der Einsiedler), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 18 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gesang der Verklärten, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after attending the premiere, a critic wrote that Gesang der Verklärten by Max Reger(pictured) "may well reach the outermost limit of musical expression altogether"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gesang der Verklärten. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Gesang der Verklärten), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I've finished the copy edit of Reger's Hebbel Requiem as you requested at GOCE. I've left a few notes on the article talk page. Off to look for a youTube performance now :) Simon. --Stfg (talk) 12:37, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Enjoy your visit to Poland! I've replied to your comments on the talk page, but there's no hurry. I'll keep it on my watch list until we're done. Best, --Stfg (talk) 14:25, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Was watching No Reservations (film) with my wife today and she asked how old Catherine was.....so i go to our page...and to my dismay I have to do some math to find this out. Not sure all understand why we are here making article in the first place. Luckily no math today as our old infobox still is in the Google search. Odd people care more about how an article looks over disseminating information. --Moxy (talk) 14:02, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Noticed someone mention that infobox are not automatic for an article.....got an email from someone that stays clear of the debates but was working on something a few years ago you may find interesting. its odd I keep running into this debate considering I dont edit infoboxs.
An infobox is a table of attribute-value pairs displayed on the top-right corner of a Wikipedia article. The majority of Wikipedia articles describe real-world named entities (in contrast to general concepts). Their infoboxes summarize important facts of corresponding entities. In addition to improving the quality and readability of articles within Wikipedia, information from Wikipedia infoboxes has also been used in several high-profile applications outside of Wikipedia, including the social database Freebase and Google’s Knowledge Graph1 which directly displays infobox information in Google search results. A tool that can automatically generate infoboxes for articles is thus appealing because such a bootstrapping tool will motivate and facilitate contributors in improving article quality."
Thank you. I remember your help for the first composer ib ;) - I had no problems with Max Reger, - try to spend my time adding rather than discussing. Pretty actress, - how much better if we'd see at a glance that she IS an actress who lived from DOB? I don't need nationality nor residence, but would like the minimum that we used to have as Persondata. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree simple is best no need for bloated infoboxs. We seem to have a new generation of editors that dont believe displaying data in different formats is helpful or needed. Do they assume all can read well enough to even understand context the thing they seem to be talking about? Are they trying to force our readers to go over huge paragraphs for titbits of information just because they think context is more important? Dont see how someone age need context...and if something does need context leave it out of the box. I think will write an essay about the basics and benefits of displaying information in different formats and use the infobox and lead as examples. just so we dont have to explian all the time....most times when I bring this up to new editor they get it right away.....some dont so an essay may help. I will layout the reasons the boxes were made in the first place and how reader use the internet for information. I just find it odd people really think that one way of presenting data is better then 2 ways.....simply puzzaling to me.--Moxy (talk) 15:52, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
if something does need context leave it out of the box—you should take a peak at the recent discussions over religion in infoboxes. Also, the new Wikidata-aware infoboxes insert data without notice, without context, without regard to "bloat" or WP:WEIGHT. Wanna fix it? Be prepared for endless cries of WP:OWNership and "censorship". Curly Turkey🍁¡gobble!23:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I found this edit enlightening... its 100 percent correct..... he was just stating a fact...be it worded non-neutrally or not. However I think this may show a POV some editors have...that is they want people to read the article or maybe just the lead here on Wikipedia over getting the info in a search engine result. I can understand this POV but again we are here to help facilitate knowledge in a fair use way....we do this in hopes all have access to the info here on Wiki or some other place that is not here. Do you know if any policy mentioned the fact we have fair-use for a reason...that is to disseminate information...not to monopolize information? Wikipedia:Copyrights and WP:5P3 mentions this in passing but i wonder if there is or should we make this point more clear. -- Moxy (talk)
With my lack of English, I don' read policy much, and certainly would not write it. I saw the edit but didn't know what to make of it. Reads to me like: the readers only interested in some facts will be satisfied by the Google finds and never see our "beautifully crafted" article. - Looking up some facts: will the actress get her infobox back when she dies ("hopefully as late as possible"), to prevent people looking up the place of death somewhere down in the article where our (strange) MoS wants it?
It's a matter of accessibility, - perhaps start something there: supply different styles of the same information to readers to people with different abilities to grasp it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:52, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
no problem, I keep reverting vandalism on FAs on a daily basis, and knew this was not what you intended. I love collaboration here, more than anything else ;) - As you can see I don't revert a second time, by habit. No more than two comments in a discussions is another, which I pursue but less consistently: not in a case when I followed the first already, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:36, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I wish I could hire you as a "brainguard" (a bodyguard for the brain) to protect me against stupidity and evil (simply by reminding me every once in a while that my time is too limited to deal with that stuff). Sometimes I feel like I am living in a different universe than certain other people, I see things they cannot see, and they see things that do not exist (or are clearly different) in my universe. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:44, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I could perhaps be your heartguard? - Life on Wikipedia is much better if you observe what wise people intended to give me for a restriction: 2 comments max in per discussion. It's actually giving you more freedom, better for your heart. (If only it was observed by more users ... - In the discussion that was mentioned on AE because I made a third comment, just for fun count the contributions of the others. Then same in the discussion mentioned further up,) I can't protect you against stupidity but I can recommend that you don't try to fight it because the fight can't be won ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 26 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ständchen (Strauss), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the song "Ständchen" (Serenade), by Richard Strauss, begins with an appeal to creep out quietly and ends with a climax of expecting a rose to glow from the rapture of the night? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ständchen (Strauss). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Somebody messed up and as you were the last to edit, I'll blame you (truthfully, I like blaming you). Look at my edit. I tried to fix a broken bracket, but another one is also there. Don't know what you crazy editors were trying to do. I like potato's idea above about a braingaurd. As I only have four brain cells, could you be my brain cell guard? Unfortunately, it's a 24/7 position. Bgwhite (talk) 08:38, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, blame me. The bot objected to having a {{nowrap}} begin within {{lang}}, rightfully so because one was never closed, it seems. (It was moved from being the lead image caption which two FAC reviewers found not so good). Sorry I can't guard your brain(cells), - explained above. Heart perhaps. How many heart cells do you have? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:44, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
According to my wife and the spawn of Satan, errr, mother-in-law, I'm heartless. They say there is a big empty cavity in my chest, just like my head. Bgwhite (talk) 00:01, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am pleased to see that you seem to be reaching some rapprochement with Mr Schonken as a result of discussions here. But what about the current parlous state of Christ lag? It pains me to see a featured article of less that 3 months' duration, one which I selected as the showpiece TFA on Easter Day, looking as though a bomb has hit it. What is to be done? Brianboulton (talk) 18:01, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As I said in our last (soon archived) discussion (the one with the edit war): the easiest approach might be to restore the status of the article to before the bomb, and take on board only the improvements (there were some). (PumpkinSky's approach to TFA days: don't look all day, restore the previous state afterwards and sort out what was no damage.) Move to former name. Archive the talk. All more practical with a restriction in place, and someone responsible for the FA process should do it, not I. Someone like you! - For one article (BWV 243a) we came to an agreement of no article editing, only edit requests on the talk. I have some more time now than in April. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That seems to be the right approach. The community's view, expressed in the FAC that ended on 11 March 2016, was that the article met the FA criteria; this view should not be overthrown by one editor's subsequent actions. While some of the changes made since 26 April might be generally agreed, they need to be discussed rather than imposed. I'll give some thought as to the best approach, but there's some useful guidance here (from WP:OWN): "While Featured articles are open for editing like any other, they have gone through a community review process as Featured article candidates, where they are checked for high-quality sources, a thorough survey of the relevant literature, and compliance with the Featured Article criteria. Editors are asked to take particular care when editing a Featured article; it is considerate to discuss significant changes of text or images on the talk page first." (posted 15.42 signed late) Brianboulton (talk) 18:04, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Reads fine to me. I certainly don't own the article. It was begun in 2005 by Microtonal (as "Christ lag in Todes Banden", btw, was moved, back and forth in 2006), I edited a bit from 2010, moved to the published version in 2011, Thoughtfortheday edited from 2012, - in short: the community wrote the article. The community also approved it for FA. On Easter Sunday, thousands of readers had no objections to the article. - The objections of one person who admitted not to be familiar with the FA process should not be overlooked but also not take prominence. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly vote for "Todes Banden", now - on top of the reasons repeated - also because the move broke many links to archives, - I seem unable to even find out how many readers in April. I don't see any danger that readers will mistake the name, just because of a little difference in spelling. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You will see what I have done, and I hope that discussions can proceed smoothly from this point, on all issues of content, title etc. Brianboulton (talk) 15:41, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gerda. I chanced upon this article while preparing content on Vater unser im Himmelreich, BWV 636. I realise there is no standard format for articles on Lutheran hymns—many don't even exist. The articles are put together as a kind of ragbag (e.g. the recently expanded Vater unser im Himmelreich). Perhaps minimum requirements are: images of the hymn from a sixteenth century Lutheran hymnbook; some version of the text with English translation; some version of the melody (if it does not appear in the image); possibly some multimedia version of the hymn; some list of musical compositions that use the hymn, with wikilinks. I removed some of the content you added to this hymn article because Clavier-Übung III already exists and Schweitzer and Spitta are quoted there in context. Perhaps adding the German text and translation would be a better idea: I've just started. (I uploaded the image used in the article; it was not very good quality and but was all I could find.) Mathsci (talk) 10:57, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hans and myself find Gerd Schaller's CD Profil Hänssler PH16034 a remarkable recording.
In his Neuheiten Hans writes: Nach den Live-Aufnahmen der Symphonien, die alle bei Hänssler Profil erschienen sind, wurden im vergangenen Jahr in Ebrach die Messe f-Moll und der Psalm 146 aufgeführt. Beide Werke passten allerdings nicht auf eine CD, und so wurde die CD-Ausgabe um Bruckners Orgelwerke ergänzt, wobei die Präludien Es-Dur (WAB 127-128), deren Autorschaft Bruckners zweifelhaft ist, ausgelassen wurden. Entstanden ist so eine CD-Ausgabe mit hohem Repertoire-Wert, denn von dem Psalm 146 gibt es bisher nur eine einzige wenn auch gute Aufnahme, nämlich von Wolfgang Riedelbauch, auf einer LP aus 1972 - eine Aufnahme, die also über vierzig Jahre alt und nur als US-Reprint auf CD lieferbar ist. Die neue Aufnahme unter Schaller füllt deshalb eine Lücke, besonders weil sie sowohl musikalisch wie aufnahmetechnisch hohe Ansprüche erfüllt. Für die Orgelwerke gilt Ähnliches: Auch hier datieren die meisten Gesamtaufnahmen aus den 1970er Jahren, Horns Einspielung aus 1990 - auch hier war eine Neuausgabe mehr als fällig! Schaller spielt die historische große Orgel der Abteikirche Ebrach, wobei er deren Registrierungsmöglichkeiten einsetzt um eine Brücke zu Bruckners symphonischem Werk mit seiner typisch dunklen Klangfarbe zu schlagen; auf diese Weise vermitteln die Werke einen ganz anderen Eindruck als z.B. bei Horn! Aus all diesen Gründen eine hoch interessante Ausgabe![1]
and on his review of Mass No. 3, [Schallers] Aufnahme [ist] klanglich völlig anders: Ihr Klang ist klar und präsent, die Klippen einer Kirchenakustik konnten offenbar weitgehend umsegelt werden. ... Die Aufnahme versucht, Solisten, Chor und Orchester "gleich" zu behandeln, so dass sie einerseits jedes für sich präsent sind und andererseits als Einheit erklingen. Eine gelungene Einspielung![2]
Thanks for you edits! I'm trying to figure out a way to banish tables to the bottom of the page, as per the (long) discussion on User talk:Johnbod. I'm hoping someone there will have a good suggestion. Lingzhi ♦ (talk)22:30, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
simple solution: collapse, but I don't like it, always have Moxy in mind who described how difficult it may be for some readers to find "show" and then to actually click that little thing, - it also distorts links to the page
other simple solution: extra paragraphs, with a link from the prose, and a link back
Thank you, - Feel free to edit yourself, especially adding sources! When I started expanding, it was mostly referenced to one book that I don't have ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I edited the text, but I didn't add the reference for the venue. I put it on the talk page. I find the referencing format used in the article quite complicated and I didn't want to mess it up. Voceditenore (talk) 06:27, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, but you could also just add it in the article, - when I find the time, I can format for consistency. I actually find harv referencing easier, especially for new editors, saying "this is the publisher, this is the accessdate" etc. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, is there a problem with asking for advice at Talk:Requiem (Reger)? I don't think it's a very good idea to use the talkpage of a user who is blocked without talkpage access as a general noticeboard, causing the user to get several frustrating alerts. Please leave the page quiet till Izkala can edit it again. Bishonen | talk14:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC).[reply]
The page is the user talk page I watch most - with its ups (look for "Cat dance!") and downs. I will obediently follow but only because you say so. My view: The user could answer per email (helped me many times while blocked, which was many times, helped me even while vanished), or other users could help me, - Frietjes did, who would never ever have looked at the talk page of a remote piece of music. The question was about a template, not the Requiem. - I remember Dangerous thoughts and (mentioned just today) an apology, in gratitude, besides my edit notice where I quote him first (designed when he was vanished, and there to stay). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's lovely. I for my part like nothing more than being called enabler of abusers. Please don't trouble to send me indirect messages from Izkala, Gerda. If he can't be bothered to keep his e-mail addy alive after mailing me, I don't want to know. Really. Bishonen | talk19:56, 1 June 2016 (UTC).[reply]
Denbies
I see Chris just archived it. Your comment that you thought Eric was neutral cleared up a mystery for me ... I understand why you nominated it if you thought we wouldn't be getting objections. What I'd like to see in the future is: if a previous nomination ran into a lot of trouble, I'd like to see some discussion before it gets renominated. It would be enough for me if you check with Chris or Brian or me, or if there's a substantive discussion anywhere else. Thanks for your patience. - Dank (push to talk) 00:31, 2 June 2016 (UTC) Oh and Gratuliere on Requiem (Reger). - Dank (push to talk) 00:33, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Who needs patience? It was nominated when Eric was blocked for a month because he had said he does 50% of FA with women. It was a pointy nomination, showing yes he does, - and the misery of that situation. It's pointy no more. Eric commented your oppose, not the nom. His language is precise, and he needs the patience. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously my language is not as precise as yours and Eric's. I am not angry about you. I was angry back then about the [no polite word] block and an unbelievable arb case that followed and solved nothing. When the block happened, I didn't scream but worded some questions for the blocker (any blocker who doesn't talk before to the victim - better word for victim welcome), and nominated Denbies. Nominating Denbies again was meant as some sort of closing the chapter. - The blocking without talk before still goes on and, yes, made me angry, I archived this talk yesterday to get over it. Sorry if you felt some of it, has nothing to do with you. See also today's Precious anniversary, to a user who lost patience (while my first barnstar was for resilience, - needed a lot).
Ah, I understood that perfectly, including the part about wanting closure. I'm sorry it didn't happen. I comfort myself with the hope that maybe some future version of Wikipedia will be a kinder place. (I can't give you closure on the requiem either, I don't know how to do source reviews.) - Dank (push to talk) 08:35, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, feeling better, - you are already part of making this a better place, did you know? The TFA process improved greatly from when I got to know it (when your articles where not shown if you were in conflict with the director), which Eric and others possibly don't know yet. - I didn't expect you personally to do the source review ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
One thing about the prize: there's no comparison, the number only reflects when a user came to our attention, - you may have noticed that Sainsf now helps. Some get it for loads of featured articles, some for their first DYK, some for gnomish help, some for supporting users. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gerda! Regarding boldfacing [12], please note the following three points: (1) the bold marks (three apostrophes) are placed outside the quotation marks, not inside them, e.g., " '''Josephine the Singer, or the Mouse Folk''' ", not ''' "Josephine the Singer, or the Mouse Folk" ''' (this practice can be encountered in articles about essays or short stories wikiwide), (2) MOS:FORLANG supercedes MOS:BOLDSYN, which means that we "do not boldface foreign names not normally used in English", even when those names of titles could be considered as alternative titles (this practice can be encountered in the lead sections of articles about countries or books wikiwide), (3) no italics for quotations or short story titles that are entirely in another language (this is a well-established academic practice; it is also the only case where the "italicize foreign language text" rule—documented in the MOS:Ety page—does not apply). Happy editing! --Omnipaedista (talk) 14:41, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
When is Christmas in Germany? On food and dates...
Greetings my dear! A strange revert came up on List of German dishes recently which puzzled me. [13]. I know Christmas eve is very important in Germany (unlike the U.K) but is this correct? I am confused. I thought carp was eaten on 25th? Simon Irondome (talk) 21:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I had goose for Christmas perhaps three times, no more, and never the 24th, and never carp. All generalization is probably incorrect, - sorry. Traditions vary. - Goose on Christmas Day makes more sense than Christmas Eve, but I wonder how many have it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To Gerda, for giving out all those pumpkins. Play some Bach on your Landowska-style harpsichord and pretend it's from me. Rothorpe (talk) 04:13, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Lovely! Thank you! - I pretend I have a harpsichord ;) - look above (or at my infobox): I am filled with singen singen, singen singen, singen singen --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:28, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Much more portable also true for akkordeon vs. harmonium, but also more expressive. Same for voice vs. harpsichord. - I was one of three alto singers, - the master wanted 12 singers of 3 sexes ("Douze chanteurs de trois sexes, hommes, femmes et castrats seront suffisants pour son exécution ; à savoir huit pour le choeur, quatre pour les solos, total douze chérubins.") ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, if I can ask a favor, I'd appreciate your input. I am going to start work on closing this RfC today. It concerns Wikidata fields in infoboxes. You know much more about infoboxes than I do ... and most important, I think that some of the pro-infobox people in that discussion are likely to trust your judgment more than they trust my judgment. I'd like to come up with a solution that gives everyone something they can be optimistic about. Would you be interested in reading that RfC and telling me what you think about it? - Dank (push to talk) 15:22, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I read most of it - which is still a lot. Sorry to say that it is not clear from the beginning, and doesn't get clearer in discussion. I miss a precise description of what I'd vote for it I vote "opt-in", and what "opt-out", and think RexxS left sensible comments about nothing should be too automatic. (I hope I will not get complaints about offending all other contributors to the discussion by mentioning that I find his comments sensible. Saw such a thing ...) I think we make no mistake offering content from our infoboxes to Wikidata, to be used by the rest of languages. (Is that meant by "opt-out"?) I think some people will scream if we place anything in infoboxes of the English Wikipedia, beginning with creating them, be it from Wikidata or other sources. In cases when Wikidata has more information, how about an infobox suggestion on the article talk instead? Leaving a choice to the editor(s) of the article? - Enough said, I try to stay away from certain discussions ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding appealing on behalf of another editor: as I commented elsewhere, I feel it is unfair to sanctioned editors to preempt their plans to decide if or when they wish to appeal. A badly-worded request from a poor advocate can ruin the opportunity for receiving due consideration of an appeal. As the ones who have to live with the consequences, sanctioned editors should remain in control of any appeal. This can include deferring to someone else to make the request, but it ought to be done with full approval and support of the editor in question. isaacl (talk) 03:57, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's all right. In the case of someone who is too proud to appeal a sanction that was nonsensekafkaesque from the beginning, and has no plan to ever appeal, it's a bit different. I was too proud myself for years, so knew the feeling. I have no plans to do it again, but feel that Befreit was my greatest success here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:29, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As long as they approve of the appeal, I don't think there is an issue. However if someone doesn't wish any appeal to take place, then I believe their wishes should be respected. isaacl (talk) 12:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, if I were in that situation, I'd be upset at my desire being ignored. Contrary to your statement that there's not much to lose, there's community goodwill that is used up, and the opening of old wounds, and I feel it would be my prerogative to decide if the potential benefit outweighed the costs. Naturally each specific case has its own circumstances; nonetheless, I don't think it's good general advice for editors to start appeals without explicit approval from the sanctioned editor. isaacl (talk) 01:37, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
spirale of justice
I learned to better stop after two comments to a discussion, - that recipe was not kafkaesque (linked above), - if only all participants in controversies followed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gerda, will you please look at the linked article? Based on its length, I have put the symphony-stub tag on it twice, and been reverted by a new editor who may have ownership issues. It does have a reference. If you think it is enough not to have a stub tag, I'll leave it alone, but I'd like another editor's eyes there, please. LadyofShalott19:58, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I looked, and formatted a bit. The reference should be inline, and I am too tired to check out if it paraphrases or copies the source. Project Classical doesn't know article categories, so in a way the new editor is right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It paraphrases now. If you look in the history, you'll see an edit by me. It was much closer to the source before. That is weird about the article rankings. I saw that the talk page banner didn't take them. I would assume stub still applied though, but, as I said, I'll leave that alone now. LadyofShalott23:03, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What do you expect from a project that fights infoboxes for its composers? I came to live with some weirdness ;) - The only categories Classical music articles have are GA and FA. - Thanks for paraphrasing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:07, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your message. Once I complete Cheers (season 7), maybe I can lessen my activities here. I'll change the banners soon. I'll do other seasons of Cheers some other time. Probably not now. I'm not gonna retire yet, but I'm tired of conflicts with others, especially administrators. Someday, when management changes, maybe I'll be more motivated to be more frequent than I was. Take care... for now. --George Ho (talk) 08:58, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, but even so, you don't need to tell us your ever-changing reflections, not at the top of your page, - better in an edit notice perhaps (IF you have to). I find that one template saying "I am ..." and the other saying "George Ho is ..." is showing confusion or even conflict, although probably unintended. Imagine a user who sees your talk for the first time. I'd prefer one simple personal statement of being welcome ;)
Now I see that you changed that already, but I still see many different messages: one black thing is enough, and should make all the others pointless, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:08, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Review request
Hello Gerda,
I have started an article about Danish composer Ivar Frounberg and unfortunately someone has requested that it should be speedily deleted, which I have of course contested. It's obviously still a stub, but could I please ask you to review it for notability and, if you find the subject notable, remove the SD tag? As the creator of the article I cannot do that myself. Thank you, --Danmuz (talk) 13:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! This one was tagged only minutes after I created it, before I had any chance to expand. I will now continue my expansion of the article in the coming days. --Danmuz (talk) 13:57, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you mean moved to "St Bartholomew's Church, Orford", I don't think it's essential. There appears to be no consistency on "Church of St X, Ytown" as opposed to "St X's Church, Ytown". That said, I've no strong feelings, and very happy for it to be moved if you wish. But I can't do it. KJP1 (talk) 22:19, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't wish, just noticed, - don't care too much as long as it's found. If the article grows a bit more, we can have the interior image that should be good for the Britten articles also. I have a few other things to do before, though. - What do you mean: you can't do it? You'd click on "More" (then "Move") above, would be prompted to supply the new name, and a reason, then it works - or not. One of the simplest things. It doesn't work once the name you want to move to has a history, naturally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, I tend to mess up even the simplest technical operations on Wiki! But I can try. What I can certainly do is add a description of the interior and I'll do so by the weekend. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 05:23, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I thanked you for the edit summary ;) - Just worked on an article about a lyricist, was interrupted by the notification and afraid it was more to ignore ignore ignore, - so nice to find LOL instead! Any cat for me? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Catching up on the news, current status somewhere between
Hello Gerda! Thank you for your interventions in this TKS article. When you have a moment, what else do I need to do to get it right for DYK? Kind regards from London, --Po Kadzieli (talk) 11:11, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know the appropriate Wikipedia etiquette for thanking you for the gift of 'Precious' on my talk page for the minimal part I played on The Man in the Moone and also for 'adding tradition to London history' - but thank you anyway! I haven't contributed much to Wikipedia recently - I'm certainly not going to get involved in any edit wars over Man in the Moone!
Unfortunately many of my fellow citizens have just taken leave of their senses and decided to abdicate from the international community (EU Referendum for those who don't get the reference). It seems that Little Englanders distrust expertise and don't really like the idea of 'knowledge' at all. They'll be banning Wikipedia here soon, since it encourages cooperation with 'foreigners' (do you know the old cartoon that appeared in Punch in the 19th century? - two Cockneys - 'Look, here comes a foreigner, Bill - chuck half a brick at him!').
For your info: there are now pages for 103 Bruckner works on IMSLP. All religious works, except the Veni Creator have now at least one score; for Psalm 112: only the original (so-called incomplete) manuscript, and for Psalm 146: the incomplete manuscript and two Reinschrifte. A few Lieder and Weltliche Chorwerke have also already a score. I have updated the concerned Wikipedia pages and the List of compositions by Anton Bruckner accordingly.
~Hmmm... DYK that Gerda Arendt (with Cwmhiraeth) is the one to be praised for having worked so efficiently on this stub that it has now been integrated into the DYK highlights? LouisAlain (talk) 16:06, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gerda! Whenever I look around among drafts, I see articles on classical musicians, opera singers and so on that have been declined despite indications of notability. Draft:Manfred Hemm, for instance, was quickly dismissed by a reviewer, then, after a few additional edits, again declined by another one (and just now close to getting speedy deleted). The author never returned. And how about Draft:Karl (Carl) Pfleger, Draft:Pétur Sakari or Draft:Pétur Sakari. These all look notable to me. Would you mind taking a look? --Hegvald (talk) 09:12, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Bayreuth, clearly notable, and sourcable. I don't know the draft-process, perhaps take it to project opera. The article needs formatting, that's for sure. See the one below for an example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:34, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hegvald, looking at this though, it's a plain copy and needs a rewrite, best from the start. We don't need such a thing even in an article history. My recommendation: have the draft deleted, write the article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:38, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The other three look notable to me as well. but need work, such as making external links to inline citations, and a lead that clarifies major accomplishments. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments. Voceditenore (talk·contribs) seems to have noticed this discussion and started to work on the articles. He rewrote the Hemm article, removing the copyvio, and moved to article space.
As I see it, the main problem with these quick dismissive and unhelpful draft reviews is not that Wikipedia loses that particular draft in whatever state it happens to be in at the point of being declined, but that they discourage the draft authors from continuing working on promising subjects, let alone staying around and write more and incrementally better articles. --Hegvald (talk) 10:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Hegvald. Yes, Manfred Hemm was fairly easy to fix up enough to make a viable short article. I've done a bit of work on the other three which will at least postpone their deletion for 6 months. Draft:Karl (Carl) Pfleger could probably be moved to article space. I'll take another look in a couple of days. The young organist Draft:Pétur Sakari only has one recording and might need to wait for more—not sure. Draft:Pétur Sakari is a pretty notable contrasbassist, but that article needs more work too. I've done a fair amount of work at AfC, although less so lately. You're right about the problems, most reviewers simply don't have the specialist knowledge to adequately review or improve drafts on classical musicians, and the dismissive approach does tend to discourage future editors. But on the other hand, none of the last three are ready for article space, and until I fixed it, Hemm was pure copyvio. So the rejections were not off base. Voceditenore (talk) 11:02, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Time and time and time again, I see you doing your best to comfort editors who are in distress, to acknowledge their valuable contributions, and to try to make peace. I thank you for all of that, even though you cannot possibly be successful all the time. But you keep trying and often you succeed. I thank you for it. You are a good person, and we are lucky to have you here on this project. Cullen328Let's discuss it06:20, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 15 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lothar Zenetti, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that songs by Lothar Zenetti appear in current Protestant and Catholic hymnals, and are performed by singer-songwriters such as Konstantin Wecker? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lothar Zenetti. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lothar Zenetti), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I found a lot of books about him at the Internet Archive. All are from before 1923, so they're considered to be public domain in the US. Some of the books are set in script type. I've skimmed them and they look like they would be good material. There are a lot of photos in them-his parents and childhood home, his wife and children and even a death photo of him. Using photos from them, I'd suggest they be uploaded here at WP with a Pre-1923-abroad license, since they may not be in the public domain elsewhere. The books can be downloaded from the Internet Archive in PDF format. We hope (talk) 15:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thank you! - Help appreciated, I have a few other topics first (even if it doesn't look like it), but it would be good to improve his biography this year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:31, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
FAC
Hi Gerda, you are providing incorrect advice here. There are no definite numbers of support and opposition that will decide the fate of an FAC nomination. The quality and substance of comments is much more important. I appreciate you reaching out to a new nominator, but we don't want to set false expectations. --Laser brain(talk)10:22, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 21 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Elsa Reger, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Elsa Reger, who had first rejected Max Reger's courting, titled her autobiography Mein Leben mit und für Max Reger (My life with and for Max Reger)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Elsa Reger. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Elsa Reger), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 22 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Berger Kirche, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Berger Kirche(pictured), more than a thousand years old, is now used as a cemetery chapel and concert venue? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Berger Kirche. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Berger Kirche), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Morning, Gerda. To my mind the anonymous editor's recent change was an improvement, and I think we should keep it. In the rest of the article we use "sopranos" plural when talking of the choir, and "soprano" singular for the treble/soprano soloist, and as the In Paradisum is entirely choral throughout, "sopranos" would be consistent with our practice in the earlier paras on the Introit, Sanctus and Agnus Dei. Now I look at the matter, I think we have not made it clear that the work was originally for all-male voices, and we might add a sentence to that effect, perhaps at the end of the third para of the History section. Somewhere I have a quote, I think, that shows that Fauré tended to prefer a female soloist, given the option, because of lung capacity and reliability of breath control. I'll add that too, if I can find it. Is all this OK with you? Tim riley talk07:48, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Go ahead, fine. We just talked about Rossini wanting to get a dispense for female voices in a church performance of his Petite messe solennelle, and when not getting it, prohibiting performance during his lifetime. - Every time I hear Pie Jesu I imagine how you sounded ;) - Regarding the Wireless Orchestra, I think we need to decide to have a separate article, or a substantial section within the BBC orchestra, with a bold link in the lead, not somewhere down. I tend towards separate, because it was really a different kind of orchestra, not just a name change. It's mentioned many times already, and more possibilities. - Did you see that the Persian is on the (DYK) market today, pictured? (To come, next set.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Gerda. I think you'd struggle to find enough material for an article or even a substantial sub-section about the Wireless Orchestra, which was more a title than an actuality, like later ad hoc ensembles such as "The New Symphony Orchestra of London" and "The National Symphony Orchestra" both much recorded by Decca, but not permanent ensembles. But by all means have a go, and I'll do any digging I can for you at the BL. Meanwhile I'll go and hunt for that Fauré quotation. Tim riley talk10:13, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Now done. It wasn't quite as unambiguous as I remembered but still worth adding, I think. Please have a look when you have a moment, and see if you agree. Tim riley talk11:06, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 1 August 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sechs Lieder, Op. 35, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Sechs Lieder, Op. 35, are six songs by Max Reger on love poems by five authors which inspired "some of Reger's most magical sonorities"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sechs Lieder, Op. 35. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sechs Lieder, Op. 35), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hello-
I was sorry to see that you have added an infobox to the article on Giulio Cesare. I have been working very hard on trying to upgrade the articles on Handel operas oratorios and other pieces of his, of which there are hundreds more articles that need work. I think it is better to have the sidebox with a picture of Handel and links to all his other works, to encourage readers to explore further. Also it unifies the articles on Handel to have his own box on each article.I cannot see that that infobox adds anything in fact I think it takes away from the article. It is discouraging to me to see that infobox, it makes me feel that my efforts to improve the articles on Handel are a waste of time and energy. I really don't want to fight you or anyone else about this issue, in fact I only returned to wikipedia yesterday after a break of nearly two years because of fighting over peripheral issues like this, worked all day on the articles on Samson and Ariodante and then this morning see that infobox added. I do not understand why those boxes are so important to you, I appreciate and respect all your work on Bach cantatas and other classical music, I would not try to interfere with what you do with them, I hope you can afford me some respect by taking that box away and restoring the Handel works sidebox. Thank you Smeat75 (talk) 12:58, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome back! Shouldn't we discuss this on the article talk? The links to his other works are in the navbox at the bottom, unifying the articles on Handel. The infobox follows the model on featured articles Rinaldo and Messiah (Handel). I am very sorry about your hurt feelings, which I understand - just from the opposite end: I put some efforts in Pierre Boulez, and still had the infobox I wanted reverted. If you were away you probably missed some wisdom on the topic by Voceditenore. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I put this note here because it seemed to me unlikely that anyone but you and me would care about it very much. But you are entitled not to want this discussion on your talk page, so I will continue on the article talk but I find this sort of thing very discouraging.Smeat75 (talk) 13:52, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I like this discussion, but am afraid that you won't get help from my watchers. - I don't know what "this sort of thing" means. I prefer an image related to the specific opera to old Handel on a youthful work (even misleading) anytime. See Carmen, after discussion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to assist peopel to encourage readers to explore further, use a navbox at the foot of the article, so that people will see it after they have read the article in question. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits13:59, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gerda Arendt,
My name is Stephanie Barker and I am a student at the University of Colorado Boulder. I am currently enrolled in a Digital Anthropology class, which attempts to answer how the digital world affects culture and how culture affects the digital world. For my final project I am doing an ethnography on women Wikipedia users and as a member of the WikiProject Women page I was hoping I could ask you some questions about your experiences editing Wikipedia pages.
1. Have you ever been locked into an intense editing war? If yes, please explain the situation to me.
2. How did you become interested in editing Wikipedia pages and did you have any initial fears/hesitations when you started editing pages?
3. Have you ever been a victim of a mass deletion or other vandalism on Wikipedia? If yes, please explain the situation to me.
4. How would you describe your gender?
5. Is there anything else you would like to share with me about your experiences as a Wikipedia editor?
I would like you to know that I am only sharing my research with my professor and the other students in my class. If you would like me to send you a copy of my final project, I would be more than happy to!
Sincerely,
Stelba90 (talk) 01:14, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for asking. I formatted your questions the Wikipedia way:
Have you ever been locked into an intense editing war? If yes, please explain the situation to me.
How did you become interested in editing Wikipedia pages and did you have any initial fears/hesitations when you started editing pages?
Have you ever been a victim of a mass deletion or other vandalism on Wikipedia? If yes, please explain the situation to me.
How would you describe your gender?
Is there anything else you would like to share with me about your experiences as a Wikipedia editor?
Answers:
No.
I noticed a red link and wrote the article, which caused three more red links, which caused ... - I had no fear, my first article was promptly deleted but revived by the help of a fellow editor.
No mass deletion. I think it's not a precise question: articles get vandalized, and I repair almost daily. As a user, no vandalism.
Philippe Herreweghe and the Concerto Vocale of Ghent are amongst my favourite performers of Bach. I heard them a long time back in St John's, Smith Square in London doing several cantatas. I notice that their current touring programme includes BWV 4 and suspect they might record it in the near future (so far they haven't). Something to look out for. Mathsci (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This tune, with the original text, on which Bach based BWV 727. - I just realized that we don't have the melody with the other text, would also be nice. - We need the melody here, not the poetry. - I love Membra Jesu Nostri! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Holst
Gerda, You and I may have our differences on the frequency in which IBs should be used in articles, but as far as I am aware no-one hates or even dislikes you. I do not know why Moxy decided to move away from the truth so obviously—his baiting is getting increasingly obvious, unfortunately—but as far as I know, everyone who has appeared in that article has full respect for you both as an editor and a person. - SchroCat (talk) 16:07, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about the discussion that took place...dont want to speak for you but after seeing them at you again i had to step in and voice some concerns. Was talking with some editors on the chat line and others also see a problem with the group that are dismissive of your good faith attempts. I am not sure why some dont care about accessibility for all...its very odd to me. We recently had a long chat about accessibility in this regard and you will be pleased to hear we are working on a way to have this info at a glance without an infobox (as in a link to special pages for those with accessibility problem that would cover the info from a box). Will let you know when this moves more forward. -- Moxy (talk) 19:57, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for coming over (as SchroCat above), perhaps you and some others can discuss the personal things here. My talk is open. I am the personification of the horrible infoboxes, DYK, - no idea how achieved that fame ;) - What you say is promising, thank you, and I appreciate your voice for accessibility and for me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Go ahead, that's where I met you (and the last two recipients of Precious). Look for my name in his archives, we had good discussions, even when we didn't agree. Did you know about Ethics of Dissensus? Something we should cultivate. - I wrote an article in memory of him but will make it known once it's more developed. I have been called morbid because of it, but can take that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
[15][16]interesting,.. to be frank , no, I had never heard of the book- however I will make every effort to find (read) what might be available online...knowledge is a beautiful thing...thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 23:03, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just have retrieved the text of Bruckner's cantata Vergißmeinnicht, WAB 93. I will try to translate it in the next coming days. I will let you know when I have done it.¨
In the meantime, all Bruckner's works, except those from the Kitzler-Studienbuch and the Adagio für Orgel, WAB deest 01 (Skitze) have one or several manuscripts/scores on IMSLP. A pity that majority of Bruckner's piano works and Lieder is part of the Kitzler-Studienbuch... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:51, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
PS: You are right! The little blue flowers along the creek, which the boy picked before he was bitten by the snake, are forget-me-not (Vergißmeinicht in German). In Dutch they are called Vergeet-mij-nietje and in French sometimes Ne m'oubliez pas... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:28, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gerda Arendt. We recently participated in a discussion which motivated my filing of an Arbcom request. Although you are not a named party, your interest in the RFC mentioned juxtaposes to potential interest in the Arbcom request as well. I am therefore, inviting you to consider your own interest in the matter, and welcoming your involvement should you find it desirous. Best--John Cline (talk) 17:18, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I thank you for your thoughts and initiative. Having been called someone who hurts the project, I will try to keep my involvement low, but will watch, and speak if necessary. The key problem - to my understanding - is misunderstanding. My question what they are afraid of has not been answered. - What I like is that two participants from opposite sides came here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:54, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Drei Chöre, Op. 6
On 7 August 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Drei Chöre, Op. 6, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that at the age of 19, while composing Drei Chöre, Op. 6, Max Reger(pictured) began his lifetime practice of writing dynamic markings in red? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Drei Chöre, Op. 6. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Drei Chöre, Op. 6), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Can you give a translation of this when you have time? "Hierzu möchte der Autor nur anmerken, daß er niemandem etwas aberkannt hat. Vielmehr legte er dar, welche Archivalien zu den einzelnen Fällen überliefert sind und in welchem Stadium des Verleihungsprozesses diese Dokumente in den Archiven vorgefunden wurden. The background is an issue that has come up regarding the wording of a German historian, and Milhist is having a discussion. Whenever you have a moment, any translation help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Simon. Irondome (talk) 14:10, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) More context is needed for "Verleihungsprozess"; without context, I find it impossible to translate. My attempt: "In this matter, the author would only like to remark that he did not deprive anybody of anything. Rather, he laid out which archives have been handed down for individual cases and in what state of lending process these documents have been found in the archives." -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:35, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The background is that a German historian re-examined the files of all Knights cross participants in WW2. The historian found around a 100+ cases of the paperwork not supporting or explicitly confirming the award and paperwork missing. However the academic did not take a specific view on removing them from the "official" list. The above wording is part of the academics' reasoning for this. I hope that clarifies a little. Thanks for your help b.t.w. Irondome (talk) 14:46, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I assume something (award?) has possibly been granted in the past, and the author has not decided to take away (any award), but only shows what archive material is extant and in which stage of the awarding process the documents were found in the archives. (This is worded a bit strangely in German in my opinion; I assume it is supposed to mean "which stage of the awarding process can be documented in the archives"). —Kusma (t·c) 14:47, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you to my wonderful watchers! (While I was busy in German, for a change.) Verleihungsprozess seems to mean the procedure of awarding the award, from nomination to finalizing. The author didn't take any award away (or said it wasn't deserved), but pointed out which documents had been found in the archives, and at which point in the procedure. My 2p, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, not only for the lovely award, but also the reminders! I'm sure you've been awarded many things for building community and goodwill through this and all your other work (not to mention your contributions to content!), but please allow me to add this kitten to them in return for all you do!
This is a lovely creature, - thank you! Yes, I have received many expressions of thanks, some that made me blush are linked above. But look at Talk:Gustav Holst: I have also been called morbid and running a flash mob rather recently, so appreciate your gift! The flash mob thing: I can take it with humour, but have no amused answer to morbid. I wrote an article. Did you know that yesterday's TFA was likely the first composer presented there with an infobox. On Holst, we still talk about a hidden notice questioning/preventing such a thing. (RfC, every voice welcome, the more distant to previous discussions, the more). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Endlich!
Hallo Gerda;
Finally, the troll who had masked about 50 articles I posted (without 1 single administrator objecting) eventually seems to have changed his position on the issue [unless he's on a break and hasn't noticed. Anyway, the articles are in the servers]. So your Der Mensch lebt und bestehet, Rhapsodie Macabre and Graham Waterhouse now have their French versions. In the process of posting, reposting etc. die Geistliche Gesänge, Op. 110 seem to have been lost and I can't retreive them in my archives but it won't be long to translate them again. Stay tuned... fr:Geistliche Gesänge (Reger) ; done! The fr:Graham Waterhouse is studded with red links since you've been working so extensively on this composer no one could follow your lead here. I just translated Kammerensemble Neue Musik Berlin so that there is one less red link in the article.
The 215 pages I had in stock waiting to be posted are now online (save 3 including the Geistliche Gesänge)) but I will occasionally add one or more of your creations if you're interested. Fare well, LouisAlain (talk) 19:52, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's lovely news! "That composer" was my first article, filling a red link, see above where I also said that I love collaboration ;) - I expanded the German version of Der 100. Psalm today, - for a change German is ahead, but will add some of it here as well. The image Toteninsel will be on de tomorrow, - soon ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Berliner Symphoniker
My money (what little there is of it these days) is on the Blüthner Orchestra. From Claude Arnold's discography of acoustical orchestral recordings: "After the Great War it was renamed 'Berliner Symphonie-Orchester'; the formula 'Berliner Symphonie-Orchester (Blüthner-Orchester)' appears for the first time in a Homocord advertisement published in December, 1922." Frieder Weissmann is among the conductors listed in the main body of the discography as having made records with this orchestra. I hope this is useful information! Best, ReverendWayne (talk) 20:46, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My internet access is sporadic but I'll update the article in the next day or two. I am also trying to sort out the details of the two different recordings Weissmann made in 1931 of By The Blue Hawaiian Waters. The ten-inch record is listed in one of the Odeon discographies compiled by Christian Zwarg, and he credits the Staatsoper Berlin orchestra and chorus. The twelve-inch version is in a matrix series that Zwarg hasn't got round to yet, but I've seen a label image which credits "Dr. Weissmann mit grossem Symphonie-Orchester und Chor" which is not much help. I'll keep digging. ReverendWayne (talk) 21:58, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A bowl of strawberries for you!
I really appreciate you allowing me to use your talkpage for translation issues Gerda! And thanks to your worthy watchers too! It was very helpful :) Fond regards, Simon Irondome (talk) 22:00, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar
Dear Gerda, how nice to be appreciated, thank you. You are yourself a fantastic support. You may like to know that I have just expanded an article about the historic Fawley Court on English Wiki and am doing a Polish version from scratch. The interest is that a church has become a timber-lined concert hall. Best, Po Kadzieli (talk) 19:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.
To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.
Hello, my original intention was only to add them, but then the user Jerome Kohl, told me that the list was too long and that those names probably did not gather enough merits to be in it and therefore it was best to replace them.
Historia Española (talk) 18:27, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to extend my appreciation for your acknowledgment of my work, it truly lifted my spirits! The fact you took the time to send me such a kind message motivates me to continue writing about the music I love. Thanks again.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:53, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Courtesy Notification: RfC Opened from a Discussion you participated in
Greetings,
I am sending this courtesy notification to let you know that a Request for Comment has been opened regarding whether or not to add an Infobox to Noël_Coward. The prior discussion has now closed so that a consensus can be reached on the matter.
Nice of you to stop by during the summer with the carnations at my Talk page. I have been away for most of the summer though I returned last week and started up some new edits. It was nice to see your success with the Reger Requiem. Next perhaps I can think about something maybe in light opera. Cheers. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 14:29, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Following discussions on the WP:FAC talkpage and with the agreement of the FAC coordinators, Mike Christie and I have finalized a "page of instructions" relating to the proposed voluntary mentoring scheme for new FAC nominators. The final draft can be viewed here.
We hope to begin the scheme shortly, on a trial basis. However, I think it would be unwise to go live until we have around a dozen or so potential mentors signed up – I hope many more than that will sign eventually. As your contribution to the discusssion indicated that you generally favoured the idea of a voluntary mentoring scheme, I am now inviting you to add your name to the list of possible mentors on the instruction page. I emphasize that the extent to which you commit yourself to this scheme is entirely a matter for you; you incur no specific obligation by adding your name. If anything about the scheme is not clear to you, please drop me a note and I'll try to explain. Brianboulton (talk) 11:36, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I did consider that a full out topic ban would be too harsh- would you therefore support your idea of limiting him/her to two comments, and in your opinion, does it work? I've only been around since 2009, and am next to oblivious to sanctions offered to those who edit war in infoboxes, until today, I stayed well clear of those bumper talk page discussions! jcc (tea and biscuits) 21:14, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict, too slow even on my own talk) You just entered a hornet's nest, good luck. (Watchers: we talk about an ANI proposal.) I have also been around from 2009, see my infobox. DYK that I am known as the "Notorious infoboxen wikiCriminal" (see same in 2015). I archived all infobox-related stuff on purpose, trying to avoid that time sink. For a crash course I recommend to read the history and (archived) talk of Laurence Olivier, spring 2015. - Right now, you can comment in the ARCA request about the hidden messages trying to keep articles infobox-free, when the principal editors agree they want it so. It's common practice, see LO. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Für einen Start werde ich einen Entwurf schreiben, den ich später aus Gründen der Diskretion vollenden wird. Eine Administratorin hat Graham Waterhouse und sieben andere Artikeln (fr:John Liptrot Hatton, fr:Cycle de chants -Song cycle- etc.) wieder maskiert! Talk of being stupid: Administrators behaving like vandals... And to make it worse, she has activated a bot which instantly deletes any attempt at recreating these articles. I haven't said my last word though.
On 26 August 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Petra Lang, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Petra Lang, who performed the parts of Brangäne and Ortrud at the Bayreuth Festival as a mezzo-soprano, was the Isolde of 2016? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Petra Lang. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Petra Lang), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
An Englishman going out in the morning sun comes across a truly terrifying infobox he is afraid to touch. (Mad dog not pictured)
Wow, I just checked in on the Noel Coward talk page and believe that the argument is still raging. And that some are threatening to leave WP over it. Incredible that some get so emotional over this stuff. SonOfThornhill (talk) 13:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree: I can't understand why infoboxes are a hot topic, - for me they are just elements to improve an article, as images and tables. People told my today that I was wiser 6 years ago. Well, of course art can't be captured in a box (as I said then), but we might say the same about the prose, - it can also not do justice to the genius of a composer or the spirit of a composition. We can still put in a box when a piece was first performed or a composer born. - See here for some constructive thoughts. I don't believe in sanctions. The whole problem is only my fault ("Gerda & Co", read today), of course, and you are a member of my flash mob, DYK? - Humour is the only help I see at present. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Humour and good music, perhaps. But I have no photos of any of the choirs I've been in. All such photos spontaneously combusted upon development. It was a most Fortississimo Flambe. LaughingVulcan23:56, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I find this whole dispute amazing. It reminds me of a dispute on the Skyfall article a while back. The article had stated the film's gross as $1,100 Million. Some wanted it changed to $1.1 Billion, in line with other WP articles. The argument against it was that for the British Billion means something else than the rest of the world. Hearing this I opposed the change. But then someone brought up that the British converted to the standard usage of Billion back in the '70s. After looking into and discovering that it was the truth, I switched and supported the change as did several others. When the consensus started swinging against them, those who opposed the change went nuts, even going as far as accusing some who supported the change as being sock puppets. They acted like a group of petulant children because they weren't getting their way. Same seems to be happening with Noel Coward article. It's sad because I expected a high level of behavior here. SonOfThornhill (talk) 10:42, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
... and of course I have to be blamed, for everything including that editors leave. (I wish they'd reconsider.) Expect any absurdity when it comes to infoboxes. Look at this discussion, what do you see? One editor was banned from infobox discussions for a while, guess who? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Gerda, Perplexing though you, and others, may find it, you cannot have been surprised by the strength of feeling that the debate on infoboxes generated on the Coward page. You have seen such strong feeling on other pages, and contributed to it. As such, you should take some responsibility for the outcome. KJP1 (talk) 22:18, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Reger died over 100 years ago, so it's out of copyright. The source is IMSLP (they can only host music which is in the public domain). In "source" you can give this link to the page on IMSLP [17] and then just add [[IMSLP]] atfterwards. Use the license {{PD-art|1=PD-old}}. I hope that explains everything. (The author is Reger, the year is 1909.) Mathsci (talk) 00:52, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've focussed on the statue because there's a good image of it. I've run through the possibilities. As you will see, Redtigerxys has found fault with all suggestions except the last, and has then disappeared, claiming to be "busy in real life". No doubt that's because the final alt is one he suggested himself and he can't find fault with it. This kind of nonsense is the reason why I have almost stopped nominating articles for DYK. Is there a page where I can raise a complaint about it? Moonraker (talk) 18:06, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, is there a section there for raising matters for discussion? I can't find one. The nomination is still on the beach, which is why I asked for some help with it. Moonraker (talk) 03:54, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
please take note how I avoided it ;) - I promised to go to no article talk with that dirty word, - if you looked at the hit list you saw it. Little Doctorbody and -soul are a must see, - escape is mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:28, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have no dog in this fight but I would willingly retire myself rather than lose an editor of the calibre Tim riley. I feel so proud for him and his Elgar-page-without-an-embellishment and I think of Tim every time I walk past the statue in the centre of my home town over the past few years. It's time for whoever caused him to retire to fall on their sword...Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:47, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I did only minor formatting, because it's not a topic I meet every day, but interesting. Will not have much time anyway to Tuesday, - see top! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Read a bit above where I was held responsible for precious editors leaving. The project page has been termed the warriors' hitlist. What does that tell us about good faith? No names of people, no diffs of reverts, - I kept and keep it as neutral as I possibly could. Look at Bizet, entered in February, reverted, accepted. An IP added an infobox yesterday, - what have I to do with that? Reverted, of course, pointing to a discussion on the talk, where said that I try to let go, in 2013. I had my say on ARCA, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:52, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wiesbaden
I hadn't realised that Breitkopf & Härtel had some of their main offices in Wiesbaden (weren't they formerly in Leipzig?). Germany is so decentralised, perhaps less so now that the Bonn parliament has moved to Berlin. The advantage is that you have choirs everywhere, perhaps more so than in the UK. You mentioned the Wiesbaden Reger-Chor in which you sing; and you pointed me towards a picture of the choir. Can you tell me either here (or by email) which one you are in the choir? I have made a guess (soprano rather than alto), but could be wrong. You could secretly be a mezzo-soprano. Mathsci (talk) 15:35, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Breitkopf needed a place after the war, and - unlike Bonn - didn't completely return. The choir was founded in Wiesbaden, but has singers from all over Germany (at least up to Hamburg), and from the Bruges-Gent area. On images we don't stand in order, but adjusting to limited space. Alto, one of three in alto II from Wiesbaden, second row, forth from the right. Compare the archived image, as the caption says. Review --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
At long last, it looks like this article will now remain on the French Wikipedia. I also added a stub of your fr:der 100. Psalm but it's a long way before it is ranked as a good article though... Any other wish? LouisAlain (talk) 22:46, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gerda! This is just to say I have been inactive for a long time from Wikipedia and, until looking through my talk page just now, I'd missed the award you gave me on January 17, 2014. It has been a long time since then, but thank you, deeply, for your kind and considered words at that time. It's clear you take considerable effort to recognize users with this award and I'm honored to have received one. —Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 08:45, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Es geht mixed, see above, I am held responsible for FA writers leaving which makes me sad not happy, - thank goodness we still have you ;) - yes, interested, will post here (where have a peer review open) and look later, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:54, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Frank Stähle
Hallo Gerda,
it's great that you did an article about Frank Stähle! Do you have one in German? Are you planning to do one?
We are doing a Gedenkkonzert for him on Oct. 5th at the Konservatorium and need a good biography for him in German. There are some online but all rather short.
If you have anything please let me know! We'll gladly put your name in the programme as the author!
Many thanks!
Edmund Brownless (Docent, Dr. Hoch's Konservatorium)
I can translate it. I have some unforgettable memories of concerts, including my first Elias which we will sing again on 3 October in Wiesbaden, but don't even know where he was born. Any help with such facts would be welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ich bin sehr dankbar! Das Gedenkkonzert ist am 5.10. im Engelbert Humperdinck Saal am Konservatorium. Es wird u.a. Bach, Haydn, Debussy und Widor gespielt und gesungen.
I will try to come. Thank you for great articles, including the conservatory! If you want to listen to exquisite choral music a capella: 13 October, 7:30pm OREYA in St. Martin Idstein, [18], - I try to find details about the program but will likely follow the scheme Ukrainian/International of 2009. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
New day: I remember that literary connections were important in rehearsals, such as Kasack's Die Stadt hinter dem Strom ("Was ist Leben? Sterben zu lernen.") for Mozart's Requiem. What do you think of printing the closing chorale of the Kreuzstabkantate in a program for that concert and ask everybody able to sing it, from their seats? He was no friend of words about himself ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:15, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Elijah: Wer bis an das Ende beharrt, der wird selig. - I remember how we worked on creating an earthly sound for the first phrase, and ethereal for the second, creating contrasting layers because different parts have the text at different times. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:07, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda... been thinking about what you said yesterday a lot today as I teased the work systems (over 10+ hours the last two days) back into coherence on what turned out to be two hours sleep last night. And much caffeine, which ain't so good for a heart patient. And I need more sleep, but I also need to wait 2-3 hours to begin my sleep cycle. Anyway, one thing I came up with.... When editors leave, it is much like death. Loss reactions are similar. Grief can be similar on the part of the grieving. Acceptance stages are virtually equal in death and fora loss for those who are close, and even those who aren't so close. So death/grave metaphors hold up on some level. But I fully agree with you: It is a loss, not a death. Most people, either way, understandably have trouble with loss - I do sometimes. Exposing the contrast is only so helpful. And I'm probably preaching to the choir on all of that. :D :D :D
Thanks for not letting me go quietly before. Wish C. could both be civil and have someone do for him what you did for me. (Wish I could just accept C. the way C. was… can’t go there yet, sadly. And apparently we have our crosses to bear if we'll pick them up as offered - dunno if that is necessary.) You possess much wisdom and thanks for sharing it with me. Best, LaughingVulcanGrok Page!23:29, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for sharing. I know that a loss can feel like death, I miss PumpkinSky who when he left the fourth time really meant it, while people were joking about how many times he had retired before. We (the cabal of the outcast) even have a list of the missed. On it's talk, you can see the most profound (in my eyes) display of missing in friendship (by Wehwalt), to which I added an image he took. Look for "I not only miss him as a person who greatly increased my productivity by decreasing the number of tasks necessary to an article that did not involve writing, all the thousand and one things that are needed for an article to appear at its best to the reader, but I miss him as a person and a friend and I worry about him."
Hello. I created a page for Wagnerian character-tenor Erwin Wohlfahrt, but in haste I forgot to capitalize the W in his last name, so the page is "Erwin wohlfahrt", not "Erwin Wohlfahrt". Is there a way to correct my error? Thanks HandsomeMrToad (talk) 02:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
UPDATE I solved the problem simply by creating another page with the correct capitalization. Disregard request for assistance, no longer needed. Sorry for bothering you. HandsomeMrToad (talk) 04:11, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Using French and German translations of the Latin texts of Bruckner's Iam lucis orto sidere, WAB 18, I have added an English translation of the Latin text.
Please do not hesitate to improve it. You can find the Latin text with German translation on Hans' webpage, when clicking on the icon "Text".
Hi Gerda, I see that I just reverted an edit by you at Æthelwulf – sorry, your edit didn't show when I started my revert, which is a bit weird; but there was another edit before yours that added a comma, which I was minded to revert as unnecessary. I had no intention of stepping on your toes! Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 18:28, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm posting this on your page in the hopes that you or a page stalker will take note. Ian and I worked on this article and nominated it for GA. All of the sources are in French. There is no place in the nomination process to state that to my knowledge, but it could get bogged down at review because of that. Ideally, a French-speaking reviewer who will critically review the article would just emerge, but I think it more likely that we will need to ask around for someone with the necessary skill. If you or a page stalker can help, it would be most appreciated. SusunW (talk) 19:56, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I get that accepting the sources in GF is possible, but I'd far rather have someone who could give it a critical analysis. SusunW (talk) 20:32, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what is expected from me on this article. As a non-native English speaker, I can't seriously proofread the text -although I corrected a typo - and the external links have been tested I'm sure. Yet, I've created Maurice Tranchant de Lunel from the French Wiki since the name of this architect is mentioned in your work. Maybe can you be more precise in your wish? LouisAlain (talk) 08:46, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The wish is to help a future GA reviewer in case some confirmation is needed that what is in the text is supported by the sources. A GA review when it happens will show on the article talk, so watching for it is enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you both. LouisAlain thanks for the article on the architect and the link to the French article on the SSBM. One of the keys improving our coverage of women is integrating them into the encyclopedia. SusunW (talk) 15:10, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Interfering in people's posts as you did here. I'd prefer to allow the person the message was directed toward the chance to reply (if she wishes). If you know something that's causing the worry, telling Ceoil publicly would be the way to go. Is there backchanneling that's suggesting he's in danger of being indef blocked? Victoria (tk) 17:03, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You concerns, motives and approach are noted. You have behavior issues of your own, Gerda, that you should reflect on, if you have any iota of self awarness. That you were not indeffed for that move is frankly baffling to me. Contacting employers is far less pot stirring. Do not contact either one of us again, or mention us by first name on wiki. Ceoil (talk) 17:07, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) You are right, I should have gone to Ceoil's page and say: "You reverted the same thing four times, I am worried about you." What do you think would have happened? Perhaps: "Thanks for telling me, I won't edit war from now on." Or what? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Its worth noting that what I reverted 4 times was an attempt by this team to keep Cassiontio gone, and to misrepresent his POV, and blacken his name in the process, engineered via a dupe. This is how they operate. You might ask for more rationalle, and not just "bloated" edit summaries....read the archives. All said 10000 times before. Ceoil (talk) 18:16, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda you make him sound dangerous. The man who loves art and music? The man who has copyedited and supported your FAs? Really? He was edit warring in user space. The thing to do is to ignore it. Don't turn it like this. Please halt this now before it blows up out of control. Victoria (tk) 17:22, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon? Dangerous? - I wanted to keep it low key and private, - it's now on at least four talk pages. - If I don't have to worry, fine! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:27, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"If I don't have to worry, fine!" - read what I said above - you started and are continuning all this. Remember Tim? Why he retired? People take note of how she invented this escape clause out of nowhere. She gets away with this because she aw shucks on so many pages and we assume harmless. Harassment and outing. Gerda, please spare me you miss him a bunch routine, you deliberately ground him down, over years. Accountability would be a great start. Ceoil (talk) 17:34, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh. I will be clear. Gerda, you sent email complaining about a fellow editor to the family member of that editor. Then you outed the family member. Your concern is irrelevant. Those actions were inappropriate. There is no defense. People get blocked for outing. Please drop this now. Ceoil is upset and with very good reason. I'm not posting here again, unwatching now. Victoria (tk) 17:44, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What part of leave us alone is hard to understand. We find you intimidating and untrustworthy. All this cant just be washed away, how shallow do you think we are. Please stop and maybe revert the edits. Ceoil (talk) 20:30, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I'm someone who is working on a FAC with some strange passion and needs some help (read help only). Currently, I'm working on Eega's FAC; it is an Indian film with a strange concept: A murdered man reincarnates as a simple, powerless housefly and avenges his death besides protecting his lover. I require someone who are willing to participate and review a candidate, and am requesting you. Having said that, i have no intentions of WP:VOTESTACK and you are absolutely free to reject (consider replying, silence is very rude in such cases.) Thank you.
As there is agitation, and clear evidence that you have been lobbying, two things. I will be asking that Opabinia for one recluses, and that it is framed more on behavior than infobox addition. My own opinion is that you reap what you sow, over years, and note the Erza Pound article you are suddenly interested in - already conceded. Ceoil (talk) 13:18, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
„Ich habe aus mir herausgeholt, was zu holen war; ich habe mich nicht geschont. Mir genügen einige Arbeiten, von denen ich sagen kann «Sie stehen». Es kommt eine Grenze, wo man die Kraft haben müßte, nein zu sagen und aufzuhören, wenn man es sich leisten kann, zu schweigen und zu gehen.“
Sounds like an artist speaking about her or his limits? Trying, staying rather literal: "I drew out of myself what could be fetched (gotten); I have not spared myself. I am content with a few works of which I can say "They (will) stay". There comes a limit where one should have the strength to say no and to stop, when one can afford to be silent and go away." Amen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:16, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That serves me beautifully now! - Back then - as you may remember because you knew I needed at least a tree - I listened to the optimism in horrified opposition (concert on 28 August 2013) because I thought a friend would be banned because he uncollapsed an infobox for me, - that's how I understood arbcom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hallo Gerda, as one of our resident experts for classical music, have you ever heard of this gentleman? I came across the article last night and think I saved it from a blp-prod, but it's still very skinny in terms of notability and referencing. De728631 (talk) 14:31, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Never heard, but someone singing Hermann at the Bastille and recording Shostakovitch's 2nd is notable. Better ask classical music for general expertise, and opera for a singer. - Any news from your Amrum DYK which I started reviewing? I don't do much pinging and sending messages, thinking people will watch. But saving a singer's bio is more vital than tombstones ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Danke, schreib gerne mehr dazu. Viel Text, sein Oratorium, aber ich gebe zu, dass es stimmig ist und man wohl nichts weglassen kann. Insider-Tip: wer noch keine Karte hat (oder besonders neugierig ist), kann in Idstein am 31. Oktober, 19 Uhr, eine Probe der Sänger hören, mit besserer Akustik als in den Domen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Das war ja eine schnelle Antwort! Du bist offenbar in der Kirchenmusik tätig. Ich bin in erster Linie ein interessierter Besucher (und Anwohner) des Meditationszentrums und kenne Helmut Schlegel von dort. Den Artikel über die Heilig-Kreuz-Kirche (Frankfurt-Bornheim) hatte ich selbst mal in Englisch übertragen. Aber ich stelle mit Entsetzen fest, dass der Artikel auf dem Stand von 2012 ist. Den Artikel über das Meditationszentrum Zentrum für christliche Meditation und Spiritualität des Bistums Limburg gibt es noch nicht auf Englisch. Das Rahel-Bildungsprojekt wäre ein weiteres Projekt von mir, dieses hatte ich auch erstmals dort kennengelernt. Oh, das Konzert in Limburg ist schon ausverkauft? --(Benutzer Urmelbeauftragter) Urmelbeauftragter (talk) 19:50, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ich bin Chorsängerin und kümmere mich um die Presse, meist ohne Erfolg ;) - Ich weiß nicht, ob man "ausverkauft" sagen kann, wenn "ausverschenkt" richtig wäre, - im Chor habe ich eine von sieben Karten ergattert, die es noch als Papier gab, - weiß nicht, was passiert wenn man sich online bemüht, und weiß nicht, wie die Organisatoren es hinbekommen, dass Beschenkte dann auch kommen - oder vielleicht doch noch Interessierte reinlassen wenn nicht. Idstein ist sicherer - und näher an Bornheim! Sag's weiter, wir können Feedback gebrauchen. - Heute kommt mir eine Zeile immer wieder in den Sinn "Glauben können wie Du" (Maria), - so schön einfach! Gut franziskanisch. - Schön, was Du so alles machst. Einer von meinen Artikeln was Le Laudi, außer etliche Male Magnificat 123. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also ehrlich gesagt kenne ich mich mit Kirchenmusik nicht so wirklich aus. Ich bevorzuge privat beispielsweise Peter Gabriel, der manchmal erstaunlich spirituelle Anklänge in seinen Texten hat. Ich habe den Artikel über Helmut Schlegel geschrieben, weil ich ihn von seiner Arbeit in dem Meditationszentrum her persönlich kenne. Aber vielleicht komme ich ja nach Idstein, wenn das mit Limburg nichts wird. Ich habe bei Helmut Schlegel selbst mal nachgefragt, mal schauen, was er antwortet.--(Benutzer Urmelbeauftragter) Urmelbeauftragter (talk) 20:37, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Den Artikel von Peter Gabriel hab ich auch geschrieben, - weil er die Martinis gegründet hat, und ich ihn daher auch ein bisschen kenne ;) - Musik kann spirituell sein sogar ohne Text, - dafür muss man sich nicht auskennen, nur hören und spüren. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know a thing but am interested if you have patience (some other things on my mind, and real family around). I didn't create the List of works, only formatted and corrected what was there, but I am a proud member of the Reger-Chor, so this year was special, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Surprise: while the link you provided has it as WoO 10, the Max-Reger-Institute knows two settings, one for TTBB men's chorus, No. 5 of WoO VI/6, one for SATB, No. 4 of WoO VI/11. Will look further, after singing Palestrina Missa Lauda Sion and BWV 6, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 1 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article OREYA, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Ukrainian mixed chamber choir OREYA(pictured) won a special prize for the best interpretation of a religious choral work at the 14th International Chamber Choir Competition Marktoberdorf? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/OREYA. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, OREYA), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi Gerda, I'm still pretty much a beginner at creating new Wikipedia articles. I have just created a page for the very notable aria "Il mio tesoro", which certainly merits an article of its own. My page title includes the word "aria" in parentheses; how do I cause future inquiries for "Il mio tesoro" to redirect to my new page "Il mio tesoro (aria)"? Thanks, HandsomeMrToad (talk) 09:41, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You created Il mio tesoro (aria), Il mio tesoro is at present a red link. First question: do we need "(aria)" in the title at all? Is there danger to confuse it with another article of that name? If not, you can just move to the short name, - then the redirect will be created automatically. Someone else may do that, just because (at least at present) the short name is unique. If you still just want to create the redirect from the short name instead, you click on the red link (or type the name from which you want to redirect in the search function, then you will be offered to create it). Once in creating the redirect, type (or copy) the following: #REDIRECT Il mio tesoro (aria) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:55, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the repeated recognition and the Precious gem. I continue to try my best and I appreciate the support you have for so long shown to so many Wikipedia contributors. Blue Rasberry (talk)10:54, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! As you may know, this November is Asian Women Month, hosted by Wikipedia Asian Month and WikiWomen In Red. Our goal is to encourage coverage of Asian women in order to help overcome the Asian content gender gap. Asian Women Month observes the rules of Wikipedia Asian Month. You will receive a special Asian Women Month barnstar if you create four articles in accordance with the rules for the event, as well as a postcard sent from an Asian community! Thanks for your consideration. Read more here! -Rimmel.EditsTalk20:15, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I knew, and I started right on 1 Nov with an article on a Korean composer, Hyo-Won Woo, only to learn that you have rules, - not enough is known about her to reach the 3000 chars that are requested, sorry. I asked, - did you consider that? I don't care about barnstars, just think it's frustrating to follow an invitation and be told your gift was too small ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 6 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Peter Reulein, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Peter Reulein composed the oratorio Laudato si‘ for five soloists, choirs, organ and orchestra to be premiered in Limburg Cathedral? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Peter Reulein. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Peter Reulein), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi. The Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like Germany, Italy, the Benelux countries, Iberian Peninsula, Romania, Slovenia etc, much like Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. If you would like to see masses of articles being improved for Europe and your specialist country like Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon, sign up today and once the challenge starts a contest can be organized. This is a way we can target every country of Europe, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant and also sign under any country sub challenge on the page that you might contribute to! Thank you. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa.08:54, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Streitraum
Hello, Gerda -- I was still copy-editing Streitraum, and when I went to save my edits, I got an edit conflict with you. I'm wondering if you would mind if I override your edits so I don't have to re-do mine, and then you could re-do yours. If you do mind, then I'll leave yours and go back and find and re-do mine. - – Corinne (talk) 20:38, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
O.K. I've finished. I spent quite a few minutes pondering and re-structuring the long sentences in the first paragraph of the lead; I hope you are pleased with the results. The word "technique" didn't seem to fit with the other items, and didn't mean much by itself, so I took a guess that you meant "technology". If you didn't mean technology, then perhaps you could explain what you meant by "technique" so I can come up with the right word. – Corinne (talk) 20:50, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Question about discographies and non-notable recordings
Hi again Gerda. I have a question: I noticed that someone had added a large number of recordings to the VERDI REQUIEM discography, and many of these were completely non-notable: made by non-notable musicians (non-notable soloists, non-notable conductors, non-notable choruses, non-notable orchestras), in non-notable venues (some were in private churches or college concert halls), published by non-notable publishers. Some of them were explicitly described as non-commercial recordings, and others were described as LPs and presumably only exist as vinyl discs. Am I correct in assuming that Wikipedia discographies of classical music works should only include recordings which are notable in some way? I've been going on the assumption that a recording should only be included if at least one contributor to the recording--musician, ensemble, conductor, or publisher--is notable enough to merit a Wikipedia page of his/her/its own. Am I correct about this? Please advise. Thank you much! HandsomeMrToad (talk) 09:18, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you are right, we should observe such a limit, even if no written rule. You can revert the not notable ones with an edit summary like what you wrote above. If they come back, we can send it to the talk page. You could also mention it at classical music. - I was busy until yesterday, or might have noticed myself, thank you for coming over. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:16, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ArbCom election question
Hi, and I hope this finds you well. However, I hope you aren't going to ask an infobox-related question of every candidate in the ArbCom election. Somehow I don't think that would be helpful. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:17, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am not well, or I would not ask that question. It's not infobox-related, but very general: "What do you think about the suggestion to not use group names?" It could be without a link to an arbitration archive, but then the candidates would probably not understand what it has to do with arbcom at all. - I asked an infobox-related question in 2013, - it was the question what the candidates thought about the edit that an arb cited to vote to ban a user, with the vote that made the majority. I still remember how sick that made me. - The year 2016 began with TFA Falstaff, which told me that infoboxes were no longer a problem. - I was wrong, but still hope the day will come. Constructive suggestions welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry to hear that you are not well. Taking care of one's health of course supersedes anything on Wikipedia.
That being said, I'm not sure I see how your unwellness forces you to ask a particular candidate question. I do have a constructive suggestion, at least I hope it is one. My suggestion is that I think it would be better if you asked a question completely unrelated to infoboxes, to avoid feeding the perception that you focus too narrowly on that topic. And even though you describe the question you already asked as nothing to do with infoboxes, I am not sure some other people will agree with you. Best regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:53, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry that I misunderstood you. Be "well" I meant a broader sense than physical health, but I confess that when I felt that a user was going to be banned because he uncollapsed an infobox I had added to an article I had created (something I was permitted to do even in times of restriction) I was physically unwell (and was told by one of the arbs to take a break). - I can of course just ask no question. Life is too short. My focus is on music, three TFAs and uncounted GAs in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I should ask an infobox-related question, Brad. Perhaps one that goes to why people who hate infoboxes (as opposed to those who merely dislike them) have to be so damn mean-spirited that their toxicity makes other people sick at heart. /sarcasm. Montanabw(talk)00:56, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, but I tried (hard) to find something that doesn't get personal. When 2016 came, with a TFA by Tim riley keeping an infobox by Viva-Verdi, I archived the load of infobox-related sorrows, hoping that a time of compromise had begun. As I said in the 2013 case: We can start today. - Try this, for better spirits. Magnificat! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You type Category:Bass-baritones. Then you put the link brackets araound it. I can't do it here because then my talk would appear in the category ;) - If you want to see the category you type in the brackets :Category:Bass-baritones. You get Category:Bass-baritones. You can do that also to test a category in a sandbox. Now, looking at the result, you find that you can get more specific and type Category:German bass-baritones. Always try to take the most specific category, - move Nienstedt, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you
I wanted to thank you for the award and your kind words. I haven't had much time for Wikipedia lately, but please don't think it went unnoticed. Sadly, my wife (also my best friend and the most wonderful person I've had the privilege of knowing) has died; after a long illness, but nonetheless quite suddenly and unexpectedly. It has devastated me beyond description, and working alongside my fellow volunteers to improve our encyclopedia doesn't seem as fulfilling as it once did. Still, being greeted with your kind message upon logging in for the first time since this tragedy was a pleasant surprise. Thank you so much for all of your help and support over the years. Joefromrandb (talk) 18:26, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am so sorry for what you have to endure. On 2 November (All souls' day), I recalled some of the dead of this year, - too many, some very close (not as close as your wife, though). I wrote articles in memory. Perhaps, after a while, to provide content that would have been important for her might be a good way to remember her. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:33, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sehr schönes Bild, ja ich liebe diese Figur vor der Abteikirche, seit sie dort aufgestellt wurde. So stelle ich mir Hildegard vor, keine altehrwürdige Nonne sondern als lebendige innwendige Seherin mit viriditas!--Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 20:42, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Challenge Series is a current drive on English Wikipedia to encourage article improvements and creations globally through a series of 50,000/10,000/1000 Challenges for different regions, countries and topics. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are invited to participate.
I love what you (both) do about art and this one especially, because I saw and loved it before I read your article. Congrats to the promotion! Should it appear on Good Friday? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:04, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Streitraum
On 21 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Streitraum, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Streitraum, a regular series of panel discussions with Carolin Emcke, has been called "an intelligent and aggressive public lecture series"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Streitraum. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Streitraum), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 23 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Danke (song), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Danke", one of Germany's best-known sacred songs, was considered a sin against music and religion when first released? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Danke (song). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Danke (song)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 24 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Aachener Zeitung, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the daily newspaper Aachener Zeitung began as the first free newspaper published by Germans after World War II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aachener Zeitung. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Aachener Zeitung), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 25 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hyo-Won Woo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in her Gloria, Hyo-Won Woo combines elements from Korean music and Western contemporary composition techniques? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hyo-Won Woo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hyo-Won Woo), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
It's in the same condition it was when it passed FAC, so it should be ok. But I'm not really particular about it appearing on the front page; I always figured it would automatically get its turn in due course.—indopug (talk) 05:48, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, the matter is not about capitalization, i.e. "was" vs "Was". Not yet. Actually, I realize that the Theme portion of Britten's work originated in the 16th century, i.e. between 1501 and 1600, and was an original anonymous work. Because Britten's or publisher's intention on using "was" no longer matters, I was searching for the intent of the very first publication of the 16th-century work instead. The more I research I found a possible link to Britten's work and Puer natus in Bethlehem, a Latin hymn: [20][21]. Uncertain about the sources: [22][23]. However, I was very uncertain, so I added the link to the "See also" section in case of doubt. Maybe we can put the capping issue aside and find traces to the origins instead? --George Ho (talk) 22:49, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 27 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cybele Records, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Cybele Records has published award-winning audiobooks, "portraits" of living composers, and in 2016 the complete organ works of Max Reger? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cybele Records. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cybele Records), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I am losing my mind. I go on vacation and come back and they have apparently reformatted the interlanguage link? I cannot use "ill" anymore and apparently the BOT that changed all my entries on other articles to "Interlanguage link multi", (why oh why?) doesn't work either for my article Women in aviation. Can you tell me how to fix the link for Lidia Zvereva? On another note, we had a lovely Thanksgiving and I really appreciated your well wishes for my favorite holiday.
I use ill, simple. The idea was to merge too templates, - generally I think that's a good idea but not in this case. All old ersions of articles are wrong now. In articles I care about, I replace the impossible string of a template name by "ill". It works. What changed is the order: first the name of the article in English, then the language, then the name in the other language. If the article should not show the name in English, an extra parameter is needed |lt=, short for link text. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help. I will now just have to remember to put the language ahead of the name. I also saw you can use "illm" which is much simpler. I usually only give one article, but in this case, I figured there is a higher likelihood that someone speaks French than can read Cyrillic. SusunW (talk) 14:46, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Right, but the Russian article will have the French in "Languages", - I see no need to clutter the English article with more than one language. For a Russian subject, I might choose French, because readers can guess that there'd be Russian, but French is extra information ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alice Bota until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Nobody's perfect, that's what I get from copying and replacing only two occurrences, not three. Writing a FAC-to-be, everything else with less attention, production of new articles may also stop until nominated. Best day for TFA is 2 February, which doesn't leave much time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:37, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is, as you probably guessed, just me. I'm trying to take a bit of a mental health break from wikipedia while I concentrate on what can be rather a busy time of year in my profession ... you know! Cheers, 82.34.71.202 (talk) 22:24, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Gerda! (1) EFB - dunno. I am not sure I can set out my stall clearly here ... maybe not at all! I will attempt to go on thinking but please do not hold your breath ... (2) As for singt und klingt, pfeift und trombt - oh how utterly gorgeous, and why did I not know about this?! It's completely fabulous. Very possibly going into a brass arrangement for 2017 ... thank you so much. I have been listening to it sung - have you a favourite? I love the Vienna Boys Choir one (fabulous poignant harmony on the "Eia"s!), but enjoyed several others. Then the Three Tenors sent me screaming from the room with my ears bleeding but hey, you can't win 'em all! And, how come it is not in a cantata or anything? I was thinking surely Bach based something on this? But all the settings you mention are more recent ... would it have not been on Baroque composers' adaptation-radar for some cultural/liturgical/etc reason? Thanks again, you are a fount of lovely knowledge. 82.34.71.202 (talk) 11:53, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for listening, to me and recordings! I sing it myself, - among the carols we sang when I was a child, that was my dad's favourite, so my choice this year when he died. I guess it was his favourite and Bach didn't set it for the same reason: not so theological, more comforting and soothing ;) - Bach wrote no chorale cantata on Nun bitten wir den heiligen Geist, also strange. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for that. I hope that I have already expressed sympathies over your Dad but if not please accept them now. Thanks also re Nun bitten wir ... another lovely tune for me to investigate! You are very very good for me. And we have a lovely German lodger this year so it is GREAT to have this stuff to bounce off her! Cheers 82.34.71.202 (talk) 19:34, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 9 December 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Neues Geistliches Lied, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Neues Geistliches Lied, a genre of contemporary songs for use at church, was performed by around 1,895 choirs and bands in German dioceses according to a 2001 report? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Neues Geistliches Lied. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Neues Geistliches Lied), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
No merge of Finnish and Polish group just because of the same name, perhaps add (Helsinki) to the former and make a dab. It's quite a common name for youth choir. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:25, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Tidus
Thanks for your feedback in Tidus's FAC. Is there any issue you would like to point? If not, could you support it? I would like to make it pass before December ends, since I'll be on Holidays during some days in January. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 14:59, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if you could find a moment to suggest an english language translation of "Professor für Tonsatz". I know what I thought at first blush, but I won't tell you because (1) I prefer for you to approach the question with a mind uncluttered by my preconceptions and (2) I think I am probably wrong. And thank you if you will find time for this. Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 15:55, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not easy. It sounds pretty much like a historic term. de:Tonsatz is literally the setting of music, as a craft. I am sorry not to know what the proper English term would be. The related English article Texture (music) seems not to cover exactly the same topic. Perhaps ask at project Classical music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Taken, I can't see that online. (Not a great name. Normally a student initiative is one by students, not for students.) - I think you can't say Website of the SIR, if the given link never mentions that name. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing new, or how do you think I noticed the existence of the article? I don't read "only promotional", - I read "not enough independent sources". They may say exactly the same thing about Laudato si'. The reason not to include is "undue weight", - I will certainly not try to include the oratorio in the pope's article ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean the article is too unimportant? Why is there a difference between the English and German wikipedia? In the German wikipedia I had no problems with the same links. The area the project is working is the Tigray region. Why is this fact in the English Wikipedia unimportant but not in the German Wikipedia?--Urmelbeauftragter21:26, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say what I think, at all. I only corrected the belief that it's because of no independent sources that it was removed from Tigray Region, but undue weight, in other words: out of proportion. We have an article that is rather short, on a large region, no? Much much more should be added about the region before getting to so many details of one supporting project. This being a German project, naturally makes it more important for the German Wikipedia than the English. - You can try to place a link under "See also". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To avoid disappointment: the English article about a piece never performed in an English-speaking country will be much shorter, - people needing details can always switch to German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Less is more ;) - I often jump from topic to topic. - The German article places the Schola somewhere later, but they introduce Misericordia in the prologue, - worth mentioning I think. - I leave the finesse of enzyclical and other papal letters and the diocese of Limburg to the experts, - have much more on my to-do-list that I can do better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free if you have something to improve in the German article like for example concerning the Schola. You have much more knowledge in church music than me. ;-) I'm a writer but not an expert in this issue.--Urmelbeauftragter16:22, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't take expertise to write that in the prologue that the Schola sings Misericordiae vultus Patris ...", and remove the "zum ersten Mal" or whatever a bit later. It's like the motto, I think. I am busy, there's also real life. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas
Hoping you stay warm and have lots of good times and good food this holiday season! White Arabian FillyNeigh
Thank you for wishes and beauty! My greetings will be posted here on Christmas Eve, - suggestions of an image with music-making angels - 17th century preferred - are most welcome! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's nice, the more heaven the better. Instruments mentioned (1622): pipes, trumpets, strings (particularly lutes, harps, violins) and organ. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DYK
If you really felt insulted, as TRM suggested, then I am very sorry and apologise. You will see that I have posted an explanation of my actions at the end of the DYK thread. I thought Fram might provide a third opinion, and my whole purpose in bringing the matter up to start with was to try to avoid an embarrassing Christmas Day pull when someone noticed that the "peace" bit was incorrect. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:01, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I looked for the answer but failed to find it. Actually, Google Translate is a very clever programme, but can cope with prose much better than liturgical verse. I use it occasionally, but do not rely on it. Fröhliche Weihnachten! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On 20 December 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Martin Schmeding, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Martin Schmeding recorded the complete organ works by Max Reger on thirteen different organs from the composer's period, including the Sauer organ at Berlin Cathedral(pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Martin Schmeding. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Martin Schmeding), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Season's Greetings, Gerda Arendt! At this wonderful time of year, I would like to give season’s greetings to all the fellow Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past! May you have a wonderful holiday season! MarnetteD|Talk17:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A barnstar of deep recognition for all your efforts on Women in Red throughout the year. Enjoy the end of year festivities and prepare to put more women on the world map in 2017. --Ipigott (talk) 08:46, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Look just above, a hook mentioning two great women, - one of them one of four ever ;) - You are working miracles for the goal, DYK? Look again here for a modest musical greeting on Christmas Eve. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas Gerda Arendt!!
Hi Gerda Arendt, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,
Merry Christmas from me! Thanks for your company during 2016. We have seen the percentage of articles on women rise from 15.5% to 16.77%. 20% is within our grasp and that's an increase of nearly a third over what we first found. Victuallers (talk) 15:50, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gerda, and a Happy Christmas to you. I've just reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Cello Sonata No. 1 (Reger) and marked as verified, but can I just ask you to clarify one sentence? Reger studied at the Wiesbaden Conservatory from 1890, composition with Hugo Riemann. I've read the German version of the biography reference and the English translation, and I'm not sure exactly what is meant: possibly Reger studied at the Wiesbaden Conservatory from 1890, where he was taught by Hugo Riemann.? Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!)20:57, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, he had studied with also Riemann before, in Sondershausen. He may have studied other topics with other people, but composition with Riemann. Better wording welcome! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Here's hoping that the worst end of your trail is behind you That Dad Time be your friend from here to the end And sickness nor sorrow don't find you." —C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1926. Montanabw(talk) 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, my card is still in the making, patience please, another gift!
On 25 December 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Taschenphilharmonie, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Taschenphilharmonie, called the world's smallest orchestra, earned prizes for classical music embedded in narration for young children? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Taschenphilharmonie. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Taschenphilharmonie), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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May your holidays be filled with peace and joy. "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given." Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! Altamel (talk) 05:41, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Gerda Arendt, I noticed how similar the Precious topicon is visually to the FA topicon, and I was wondering if you weren't considering a change due to that. If you were I would suggest either or , but of course its up to you. Merry Christmas by the way! IazygesConsermonorOpus meum06:05, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gerda, Happy New Year! Please note that illuminated manuscripts do not normally have italicized titles, so this was incorrect. Do you know how to de-italicize the article title? Johnbod (talk) 14:55, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please Gerda, would you be able to look at this hook and article. The review is somewhat inadequate, but I really need someone to confirm that all the aspects of the hook are mentioned in the German language source (the English language citation supports some of them). I'm particularly referring to the "first German" claim. I don't particularly want another German language controversy on the DYK discussion page. Happy New Year! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:06, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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