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WP:WOSO News: October 2020

Chelsea striker Bethany England scoring the winning goal in the team's 2-1 win against Arsenal at the 2019–20 FA Women's League Cup, February 29, 2020.
Chelsea striker Bethany England scoring the winning goal in the team's 2-1 win against Arsenal at the 2019–20 FA Women's League Cup, February 29, 2020.

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What a year to be alive. As usual (but perhaps even moreso since there have been unexpected quarantines), there has been a lot of activity on player, team, league and tournament-related Wikipedia articles with all of the worldwide coverage of women's football / soccer. Great work!

Fall Focus: FA WSL articles

You may have noticed lots of great things going on for the top English league this year: the FA WSL. More (international!) broadcasts, top international player signings, improved media coverage, and increased viewership. Let's keep the momentum brewing, shall we?

Here's a sampling of articles that could use creation, expansion or updating. What will you commit to working on?

Historical Topics
Managers
Teams
Players
Other

See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Women's football task force/Initiatives/FA WSL to collaborate and organize with other editors.

Every little bit helps! Thanks for your contributions!

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WP:GNG takes precedence over WP:NFOOTY (which only includes the players in two currently active women's leagues)? Often times there is enough media coverage that meets WP:GNG or other notability guidelines. For more information, see WP:WOSO#Notability and be sure to tag the new article talk page with: {{WP Women's sport|footy=yes}}

Current and upcoming seasons for top-division leagues


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Dasha Zhukova

A heads up I've tagged you in a note at Talk:Dasha Zhukova.

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College soccer seasons

I rarely see college soccer seasons generally get the level of coverage required by GNG, which outweighs NSEASONS - but, as with all things, there are exceptions. GiantSnowman 17:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 SIU Edwardsville Cougars men's soccer team

I just spent five weeks (yes, 35 days) in the hospital. I was unable to work on 2021 SIU Edwardsville Cougars men's soccer team (or anything else) during that time. I went to the page to update and discovered that you had replaced the entire article of nearly 18,700 characters with a redirect , apparently without making any effort to discover why the page was idle. I have been unable to revert your work, so please return the page to its form before you did anything to it. GWFrog (talk) 00:44, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GWFrog:, I'm am saddened to hear of your health issues and I hope you're doing well since then. I'm not sure what you're referring to re: "...without making any effort to discover why the page was idle," as this is an irrelevant point. Per WP:NSEASONS and WP:TOOSOON, I interpret this as unworthy of a stand-alone article at this stage. If you'd like a wider opinion on the matter, I'm more than happy to solicit one so we as a community can come to a consensus. GauchoDude (talk) 17:47, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me, but what give you the right to decide that the article is, "unworthy of a stand-alone article at this stage" without any discussion on the issue? Regardless of what your stated references may say, there are established procedures for deleting an article. Please return the article, and, if you believe it should be deleted, follow the procedures by tagging it as proposed for deletion, and let the Wikipedia community decide, rather than acting in an arbitrary, autocratic manner. GWFrog (talk) 14:25, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@GWFrog:, you're excused, and the specific guideline is WP:BOLD. As you've now noted an objection, you can find the discussion here. GauchoDude (talk) 20:01, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ACC MSOC season articles

Hi GauchoDude, I have reverted your redirects for all the 2021 ACC soccer seasons. The ACC is widely seen as an elite college soccer conference and nearly all the programs, if not all of them are considered the most elite collegiate soccer programs, meeting the following in GNG and NSEASONS:

"For programs considered elite in a sport (for example, Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, in men's basketball; Tennessee and UConn in women's basketball; Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama, USC in football, etc.) many or all seasons might be notable regardless of the outcome (the amount written by reliable sources on a weekly basis for some of these programs is enough that almost anything or anyone having any relation to them is likely to meet the General Notability Guideline)."

This is especially true with Clemson, Duke, Louisville, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Virginia, Wake Forest. Beyond that, programs such as Virginia Tech, NC State, Boston College, and Pitt have shown recent success that could manage to pass NSEASONS. Furthermore, these programs have achieved national rankings across all major selectors which would satisfy the elite requirement of NSEASONS. Quidster4040 (talk)

@Quidster4040: While I understand you have quite an interest in collegiate soccer, as do I, I disagree that these articles meet WP:NSEASONS and that we are WP:TOOSOON, hence the redirects. While, in your opinion, the teams listed are "elite in a sport", that is just one bullet point to consider. Prior to sharing those guidelines/examples as you reference above, WP:NSEASONS prefaces with "For college sports teams, weigh both the season itself and the sport..." and while I'm sure both of us would love to see collegiate soccer much more highly regarded, in my opinion it's not there yet – both as it relates to collegiate sports landscape as well as the soccer landscape in totality. How would you like to proceed? GauchoDude (talk) 12:38, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Plante

Plante himself says in the interview he attended UCSB. Edit to say that there is audio of the entire interview with the text. At around the 2:10 mark, he says he attended UCSB. https://ourtowndc.com/chris-plante-radio-talk-show-host/BillVol (talk) 14:55, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BillVol: Yes, I saw that as the source listed. Upon further exam, I was unable to find any corroborating sources. As such since this is a WP:BLP, I decided to err on the side of caution using WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE as guidance. If you'd like to add into his personal article that he claimed he attended UCSB, I feel that's what the source above portrays. GauchoDude (talk) 16:38, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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You did this again with Harold Newhart and Oxford, Ohio. These entries must have sources establishing a connection. Alansohn (talk) 00:45, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Steve Barr

I contest the removal of my edits to the Steve Barr (educator) page on the grounds that Steve Barr himself requested said edits. 204.69.190.254 (talk) 20:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@204.69.190.254: I'm not sure how serious you're being, so I will address in good faith. Per WP:BLPSOURCE, you are lacking a source for your information. As such, it is not fit for inclusion. "When material is both verifiable and noteworthy, it will have appeared in more reliable sources." GauchoDude (talk) 20:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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