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Archive 1

Linking to new articles

Hi, thank you for creating these new articles on classical compositions! To make it easier for readers to find your new article, here is a check list to do after creating an article:

Thanks for your contributions! intforce (talk) 18:44, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@Intforce Hello, thanks for the list! I was doing some of those already, though I was planning to do some other Saint Saens compositions (like Symphony in A and Symphony No. 2) and add them to these lists all at once. If this is not the best practice, I will add them individually. I was painfully unaware of the 1821 in music type articles and will keep those in mind. I’ll make sure the other articles I created have been added in the proper places. I see on your user page that you are planning to work on the uncreated Saint-Saens piano quintet article, is this something you are doing in the near future? If not, I’ll happily create the article. Garsh (talk) 22:16, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Sure, please go ahead! For Saint-Saëns, I can highly recommend this source, which is often cited by other sources: Ratner, Sabina Teller (2002). Camille Saint-Saëns, 1835–1922: A Thematic Catalogue of his Complete Works, Volume 1: The Instrumental Works. Oxford: Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-816320-6. intforce (talk) 20:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Move request

Hello, Garsh2,

You'll get much timelier action on your move requests (Draft space>main space) if you format them properly. Using Twinkle, select CSD>G6>Move and in the field, put the page title of the page you want moved. Then a patrolling admin can delete the redirect and move the page with one edit. There is also an active link so that the admin can review the draft first. Most editors and admins are busy and the easier you make things the faster response you see. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Greetings. I’m not sure I understand what you are referencing, as I did use the twinkle CSD module. If you are referencing the draft title, I was not aware that it is necessary to type the “Draft:” namespace. Some tools require this, others do not (such as AFCH). If that is indeed the issue, I will keep it in mind. Garsh (talk) Garsh (talk) 15:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Question as to why my article was declined

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Santa_Cruz_High_Cardinal_Regiment

Hello. I had an article of mine regarding "The Santa Cruz High Cardinal Regiment" which was declined for not achieving "sustained notability." I my article I describe multiple instances in which the band has received adequate notability. It played in the Vancouver World's Fair in 1986, it's played for many years at the college football All-Star game, it's played King Kamehameha Day Parade (a televised Hawaiian event) in 2005, they've traveled to New York and played in Carnegie Hall! Even then there's countless events that I didn't include because the sources were not exactly phrased or presented in a way that was useful. For example, the band annually plays at the city Holiday Parade and always closes the event. It has become a staple for the parade, so much so that the official website of Downtown Santa Cruz features a picture of our band for the event (see this link: https://downtownsantacruz.com/events/downtown-holiday-parade). It should also be noted that none of the sources I used are affiliated with the band. That includes the article "Santa Cruz High School marches past 85 years of music, memories" (https://www.santacruzsentinel.com/2010/10/12/santa-cruz-high-school-marches-past-85-years-of-music-memories/) by the Santa Cruz Sentinel. This is the largest newspaper company in Santa Cruz and is named after the name of our city. This article was done because they wanted to honor us by showing even more people about the history of this distinguished group in this community, not for any reasons regarding affiliation. I could have also used this website from one of the largest amusement parks in California https://beachboardwalk.com/band-review/ yet it didn't seem to fit the idea of a valid source.

I'd bet that 90% of all Santa Cruz locals know who this band is, so I cannot fathom why there would be an absence in notability. JFitz42 (talk) (Aug 2nd, 2024) — Preceding undated comment added 21:53, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

@JFitz42 Hi there, this was a review I made over a month ago and I've looked at it again. The main concern in notability I have now that I should have articulated better was the article's heavy reliance on publications from a single source, the Santa Cruz Sentinal, for both sourcing and notability. I see now that the initial conclusion that the band is only covered for its Carnegie Hall trip was not necessarily true, and I apologize for causing confusion. The article from "downtownsantacruz" listed above would likely be considered trivial coverage (which is not always bad but unhelpful for your purpose), as it is a passing mention in an article otherwise discussing an event. While it could be included, you are correct that the "beachboardwalk" article would not have been a good source. Adding more diverse sources covering the topic will go a long way to show notability.
Looking the article again, there are some other reasons that I should have included that would likely be brought up upon resubmission. The article reads like a promotional piece, violating WP:NPOV. Have a look at MOS:WTW if you're stuck trying to find words that may make the article less than neutral. Some examples include phrases like "over the decades", "long line of award-winning", "flourish", etc. Additionally, there are a good number of unsourced claims made in the article (especailly in the "Current participation in competitions" section) that could be challenged and removed by other editors.
This article is a good start, and I appreciate your adherence to the COI policy. If the article is resubmitted after the above changes are made, it would have a much better chance of acceptance. While I will happily take another look upon improvement, I will let another reviewer make the final decision. I try to avoid reviewing the same article twice (unless issues are egregious, fixes are beyond a shadow of a doubt, or no change is made) so that it has a chance for review under fresh eyes.
Garsh (talk) 00:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Request on 18:41:19, 5 August 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Goodsoilrecords


I have been diligent in providing sources and structuring this article in the exact way that I see other published articles on musicians. I need to understand what is missing from the article. The sources are large international publications with thousands of readers and can easily be verified. I also was told there is a "COI" issue and do not understand the meaning of this. Please assist if possible. Thanks!


Goodsoilrecords (talk) 18:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for the confusion. COI refers to "Conflict of Interest" (see WP:COI). This concern mainly stems from your username which appears to identify you as someone with close relation to the subject. See the message left on your talk page by another reviewer.
Wikipedia has a set of criteria that determines which topics qualify for a Wikipedia article. These guidelines are sometimes hard to understand and can be subjective at times. WP:GNG is a good place to become familiar with them. Reiterating the reason provided in the decline, the references provided may help verify information provided in the article but they don't show significant coverage of the topic WP:SIGCOV. References one and two are from the same publication, which is not necessarily a problem on its own but does not count twice towards notability. The third reference is a fairly brief mention that may not be significant coverage. For more criteria for notability of music related topics, see WP:MUSICBIO. If you feel that any of these criteria are met and references can prove it, please let me know and I'll have another look.
The article is a good start. If the conflict of interest concerns can be addressed and additional sources are added to show notability of the topic, the article has a good chance of acceptance. Let me know if you have any additional questions! Garsh (talk) 19:06, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services published

Just letting you know that I moved Draft:Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services to Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services as you had requested. Feel free to cleanup the tags per AFC standards when you can. Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 21:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for this! I’m a big fan of redirects but they do get in the way sometimes with AfC reviewing. Garsh (talk) 22:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

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Just letting you know that you should watch out for block evasion while reviewing WP:AFC/R requests. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TotalTruthTeller24 is the big one. They like to use AfC/R so their redirects aren't G5-deleted when their sock accounts are caught. They focus on a fairly large topic area, but if you see requests that relate to comic books, television, etc. please take a closer look. They use accounts and IPs. For example:

are all likely TTT24 redirect requests. It's hard to catch them all, but it's something to consider. Thanks. C F A 💬 16:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@CFA Thanks for this! I was aware socks sometimes utilize AfC but haven't taken it as a big concern because I figure that if a page or redirect is independently valid in a way that passes AfC, it shouldn't matter too much who the original requester was. I will take a closer look at these requests from now on though. Garsh (talk) 00:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

The Trafalgar Group Sources

Hello, you declined my request on Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects because you said "The title you suggested seems like an unlikely search term". Here are sources showing that Trafalgar Group is also called "the Trafalgar Group":

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/The_Trafalgar_Group, there are 36 Wikipedia pages that link to "The Trafalgar Group" and not "Trafalgar Group". This shows that people are adding links to "The Trafalgar Group" instead of the "Trafalgar Group", which makes this a likely search term. 128.228.164.236 (talk) 14:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I see someone else has already accepted the redirect. In the future, it may be helpful to include sources in your initial request to avoid misunderstandings. Garsh (talk) 22:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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Orphan article The Ring (ballet)

Greetings, Today I de-orphaned this article by adding a link at Mariinsky Theatre, new section Premiers. Also, I removed two Orphan tags: "November 2023" and "September 2024".

Cheers, JoeNMLC (talk) 19:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet at WP:AFC/R

Hello! A few weeks ago, CFA informed you about the sockpuppet investigation on TotalTruthTeller24. I was similarly warned a few weeks ago as well on the case. Since then, TTT24 has tried creating articles through WP:AFC/R using even more accounts and IPs (the most obvious cases listed in the sockpuppet investigation itself).

I just wanted to re-remind you not to accept redirect requests (here), especially those related to comics or animation. If you know the processes of getting these redirect articles deleted (or looked at) by an admin, that would be great; I'm pretty sure one would use CSD G5, but I'm not sure enough to actually do it. Cheers :-).

(Courtesy ping to those involved - if you have any other input, let us know here: @CFA:, @NinjaRobotPirate:, @Ponyo:) LR.127 (talk) 00:28, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I am not understanding your proposed course of action. I am not a checkuser, and therefore cannot obtain evidence that these requests are made by TTT24. To be clear, it sounds like you’re asking me to ignore all redirect requests on this topic. I do not find this to be a logical request. When anyone creates redirects through AFC/R, they are assuming responsibility for the content. If the redirects are invalid under policy, please make this assertion. If not, I will assume responsibility for the content of the redirects and will not have them deleted. It is illogical to delete valid redirects simply because of whose idea it was to create them. By that logic, I could recreate the same redirects; and they would be somehow acceptable. I am concerned with building an encyclopedia, not policing who may propose changes to it. Garsh (talk) 02:28, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Apologies if I was unclear; I wanted to point out that you accepted redirect articles that have previously been deleted after submitted by TTT24 sockpuppets, and was both putting importance on the submitter (new account, IP, etc.) and asking whether you knew how to properly mark these sockpuppet-created requested articles for deletion.
Regarding It is illogical to delete valid redirects simply because of whose idea it was to create them. - I interpret WP:BMB as saying all edits made by a banned user (in this case TTT24 and their sockpuppets) should not be accepted, including their redirect requests. LR.127 (talk) 02:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for being a little testy. To answer your question, probably RFD. If we want to be technical about G5, they weren’t created by a banned or blocked user because they were created by me. That said, I’d prefer just to leave them. They don’t harm anything and actually appear constructive. You may be right about WP:BMB. WP:BRB, however, seems to contradict in stating that changes that are obviously helpful can be allowed to stand. Additionally, WP:Proxying states that editors should show the changes are productive (which is yet to be challenged) and have independent reasons for doing so, such as handling an AfC/R request the same way as any other. The same section says editors take responsibility for the changes they restore. While not technically a restoration, I took responsibility for the redirects when I created them and that should be that. Garsh (talk) 03:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I'll leave the redirects for now, and keep them watchlisted just in case.
Additionally, I also want to bring TTT24's own message to attention (through a sockpuppet account): Special:Diff/1248553248. If you have any thoughts, feel free to share. Cheers. LR.127 (talk) 12:22, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your work on this and AFC/R as a whole. I’ll also keep an eye on the redirects. Reading their message, I can’t help but feel somewhat sympathy for them if they’re telling the truth. Not saying that I would intentionally carry out their edits, but they make a (good?) case for a WP:UNBAN. If they truly want to be constructive, I wish them luck in the avenue they take to achieve this. I do feel this particular Sockpuppet investigation may be doing more harm than good, but that is not up to me to decide. Garsh (talk) 19:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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I am a rookie writer but please see the FEC.gov page for details

Committee CO00591313, reflects Eric Bodenstab as Treasurer at the time of dispute of chairmanship in April 2023 I was also acting secretary.

Also Unityparty.us is the official page. 38.97.239.90 (talk) 19:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for your contributions. I have no problem with adding the official links to the External Links section of the article. Your edits, possibly unintentionally, removed large sections of the article without explanation and were reverted for that reason. If you want help making any changes, please let me know! Garsh (talk) 19:09, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Markus Jooste Satanist.

Why are you all so worried about this info? I was saying the source while you were deleting my edit 173.215.100.212 (talk) 03:54, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Special care needs to be taking when writing biographies of living (or recently dead) people because incorrect content can be libelous. The English Wikipedia requires that all changes to such articles be properly sourced. Your changes, calling him a satanist, did not come with any source and were reverted. If you have a source, please cite it when you make your edit. Let me know if you have any other questions. (See WP:BLP)) Garsh (talk) 14:18, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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SAINT DERON PLAYA

i posted my wikipedia or Draft:Saint Deron and i did put the source up on top saying {mostly the information came from a podcast] i have now changed it so it shows the source so if u will stop declining. its about me ik who i am Khylanstafford69 (talk) 13:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for contribution to Wikipedia. Unfortunately the article contains several issues that prevent it from being accepted. The topic is not notable enough to be included in Wikipedia’s main space (see WP:GNG). Writing about one’s self is highly discouraged on Wikipedia as it lends itself to biased and unsourcable claims (WP:COI). The article does not meet inline citation requirements for BLPs (WP:BLP). Please see the rejection reasons on the article for more information. Garsh (talk) 16:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

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WikiProject banner removed when accepting AfC draft

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Hello! Sorry about that. I don't remember doing this intentionally, but it was possibly a misclick. Garsh (talk) 01:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

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