User talk:FocalPointWelcome! Hello, FocalPoint, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! RJFJR 14:49, 20 September 2005 (UTC) Villehardouinis the only one that's confusing AFAIK (Geoffrey the chronicler, his nephew Geoffrey I, and Geoffrey II). Sorry to step on your edit. Choess 21:31, 16 November 2005 (UTC) AristarchusOh, no problem.;-> There were only three of them, and all of them sufficiently serious to deserve an answer. My position on the matter is not intransigent; if I were the only interested editor, what would happen is that Aristarchus would remain the dab page, because of the majority modern usage - but only until Aristarchus of Samothrace becomes a proper article, and the ones that should link to it are written. This will be a while, and I may have to do it myself. "Correctness" is, according to policy, not the way to settle these questions. See Wikipedia:Use English and Wikipedia:Naming conventions for more; although several editors regularly ignore them. (You will find several other useful links on my user page; feel free to copy them - or not.) Septentrionalis 15:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC) Regarding your edit, see WP:POINT. Sciurinæ 13:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC) Bridge of ArtaAre you the same user as Χρήστης:FocalPoint on the el.wiki? If you are, can you upload the picture to Commons, so we can include it in the Bridge of Arta article? By the way, we need someone to translate the rest of the article. Thanks! СПУТНИКССС Р 01:30, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Excellent photo!! Do you have any others that could be used at Nafplio? Cheers! - Gobeirne 20:25, 29 April 2006 (UTC) Category DeletionPlease visit [1] and weigh in! NikoSilver (T) @ (C) 23:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC) Bonjour, Ton bot de la wikipedia anglaise, pense que c'est necessaire de mettre un liens vers la wikipedia italienne au sujet en:Perlite. Pourtant, le liens it:Perlite n'existe pas. J'ai fair deja un "revert" mais ton bot insiste. Je te prie de prend la situation en charge. Merci pour ton action.--FocalPoint 3 juin 2006 à 15:20 (CEST) Bonjour, Désolé, le bot est un peu idiot :o) Je vais lui demander de faire attention. Hashar 11:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC) POLLNo, no, no, not what you think! This time is for something that all of us need: Improvement of the <ref> function. Please weigh in at Wikipedia talk:Footnotes#Poll! NikoSilver (T) @ (C) 18:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
and another Poll...Hi. There's a debate about how much "X-ian" one must be in order to be considered "X-American" (or X-Yian for that matter) and be categorized as such. The poll is here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Kindly weigh in! :NikoSilver: 21:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC) Well, that'll be the first article we're not bitching too much about! :-) :NikoSilver: 22:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC) 2 Polls that may be of interest...Hey, kindly check:
Thanks. :NikoSilver: 01:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC) Vectorized imagesDue to a crash of my HD image epir1.cdr was lost. But I have three CDR images refered to Epir (1235-1251, 1252-1315 and 1315-1358). If you has interest in this images I can send you to your e-mail adress the original cdr files that you can edit freely. They are made in CORELL 11 version. Please contact me. 88.12.146.224 10:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
88.12.146.224 22:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC) ==George Rallis==Copied from Lincher's talk page. I believe that you should have another look at your assessment of stub class for this article. My opinion is that a start class is more fair to its authors (I only put 4-6 letters, so I cannot be counted among them).--FocalPoint 15:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
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Article for deletionHi, have you any idea why this article [2] is not included in this list [3] for further dicussion? I fear that it is not visible to a wide audience there could be a biased verdict. Unfortunately I have not got the expertise to fix it; that is if there is something wrong. Thanks, Georgeg 17:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your AfD recommendation. Unfortunately I do not know many of the intricacies of Greek football - being uninformed I decided it would be best if I decline to comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Achaia Football Clubs Association, which in any case looks like it is going to be kept anyway. Qwghlm 22:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
HelloGood friends are all around! Dr Moshe 10:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC) Cyprus-stubTo template για το cyprus-stub προτείνεται απο τουσ τουρκους να αλλάξει. "This Cyprus-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." Ηδη προτείνεται να αλλάξει το link για την Κύπρο στο να ειναι link gia το αρθρο για τη γεωγραφία της Κυπρου, και επίσης κερδίζει ηδη έδαφος στο να φύγει η σημαια μας και να αντικατασταθει με τον χαρτη της Κυπρου. Ηδη προσπαθω εγώ μόνος μου αλλα και εγω ειμαι σε εξεταστικη περιοδο και δεν μπορω να πολυασχοληθω με τιν βικιπέδια αν μπορουσες να βοηθησεις... KRBN 14:27, 9 January 2007(UTC) Thanks once againΠολύ κακές παρέες, όντως. Παρασύρετε αθώες κορασίδες στην ακολασία, στον επικίνδυνο κόσμο του Ίντερνετ. Θα προσπαθήσω όμως να δείξω χαρακτήρα και να μην παρασυρθώ από τα εντυπωσιακά λάβαρα των Φράγκων ιπποτών και τα οικόσημα των Παλατινών αρχόντων! Και φυσικά ευχαριστώ για … το τρίτο ποδαρικό!--Elena153 18:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC) Ευχαριστώ!Ευχαριστώ πολύ για τις πληροφορίες! Για ό,τι χρειαστείς στην Αγγλική Wikipedia μη διστάσεις να επικοινωνήσεις μαζί μου.--Yannismarou 09:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC) Image source problem with Image:Achaia FCA.jpgThis is an automated message from a robot. You have recently uploaded Image:Achaia FCA.jpg. The file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged. As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 11:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. If you believe you received this message in error, please notify the bot's owner. OsamaKBOT 11:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC) VillehardouinI do, but I've just moved so I don't have access to my books or my own computer :) I have the edition by Juliam Eugene White, but there is an older one by Jean Alexandre Buchon on Google Books. Note that our article on Buchon (via Britannica) says "None of his publications can be described as thoroughly scholarly", and this one has the annoying habit of translating random Old French words into modern French in brackets. I'll try to get to White's edition as soon as I can. Adam Bishop 00:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Studi VenezianiHi FocalPoint, this doesn't appear to be available online, through JSTOR or elsewhere. My university library has it though, back to 1959. Adam Bishop 08:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC) Indo-Greek kingdomHi FocalPoint! Thank you for your vote on the Indo-Greek FARC! My understanding is that the subject of the presence of the Indo-Greeks in India, even if more than 2000 years old, still hurts some national sensitivities. Some users such as User:Devanampriya, who actually initiated this FARC through a request to an Indian administrator, have been very aggresive with any claims of Greek influence in India, and very aggressive with other users in the process. This combines with the fact that many things are indeed uncertain about the Indo-Greeks, hence the request by a few initially uninvolved users to have more references etc... to which I complied (rather intensely) during the last few weeks. In the process, I think the article has become even better than before, more balanced, and much much more referenced. In any case, I believe this is a fascinating subject, and that this Wikipedia article offers one of the best summary available anywhere on the Indo-Greeks. Thank you for your support! PHG 19:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC) Hi! I have replied to your post on Indo-Greek discussion. Best regards--Sponsianus (talk) 10:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC) Re: Thank youOops, just noticed you replied here. I have created the dump in my user space, but feel free to move it anywhere else (or copy and split it, the page may be a little too big). Creating the dump doesn't take much time, so I can do it whenever you want. Cheers! -- ReyBrujo (talk) 19:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC) Re: Anna (name)Thank you for your message. I have fixed all the interwiki links to Anna (name). --Pipep (talk) 20:29, 4 February 2008 (UTC) NiceNice contributions. Any chance of transferring the Greek Gazette information (spread across 3 issues by Kyriakos Metaxas) to the Anglo-Hellenic League article? The pictures are almost certainly free of copywrite and many are of hight quality. Politis (talk) 20:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)t Garni InscriptionDear Focal Point. Thanks a lot for your interest in the discussion. I have to caution you though that all my remarks constitute OR and they cannot therefore be used in any article. My transliteration and my translation are most certainly flawed since they are based on a rather sketchy copy. I will keep on looking for an authoritative publication of the inscription which may be properly used in wikipedia and post every bit of information to the relevant discussion pages. I am very happy to see that you are interested and I look forward to any feedback. Thanks again!--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 08:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Re: Interwikis in Greek ΒικιπαίδειαAnything to help! :-) I got the full list (I think there were 9,000 hits) but am having a little trouble at splitting it... I was going to create a list for every starting letter, but I think there would be like 30 or 40 lists, some small and some long. I am trying to overcome my almost complete ignorance of Greek, though :-) -- ReyBrujo (talk) 22:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC) Greek Wikipedia Interwiki projectHi! I noticed that you have a serious project to improve interwiki links in the Greek Wikipedia. In the Hebrew Wikipedia we have such a project, and it has been pretty successful. I was looking for such projects in other Wikipedias, but found nothing. I started setting up similar projects in Wikipedias in Russian and Esperanto (i know these languages), and then i stumbled upon your project in the Greek Wikipedia. (I found a link to it at Wikipedia talk:Special:WithoutInterwiki.) Unfortunately i don't know Greek, but i would like to know what is your way of working. You can find a description of our way of working here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Interlanguage Links/Ideas from the Hebrew Wikipedia. I'll be glad to share our experiences! One last thing: I added an interwiki link to your project from Wikipedia:WikiProject Interlanguage Links. This project in the English Wikipedia appears inactive (i am trying to revive it), but a link to your project may facilitate the communication between our projects. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 06:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC) HiHi! Please note that I have filed a request for appeal here. Comments welcome! Best regards PHG (talk) 16:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC) An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/PHG/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/PHG/Workshop. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel (talk) 23:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC) Hi again!Hi FocalPoint. Thank you so much for your comments at Arbcom! I truely appreciate! Best regards PHG (talk) 19:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Excelsior!I backed out all your wood wool changes, and added a source to make it more clear that excelsior is a generic term; why did you think it was a brand? Dicklyon (talk) 18:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
PHG ArbCom requestI've posted a request for possible additional evidence at Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/PHG/Evidence. Cool Hand Luke 18:54, 7 January 2009 (UTC) I have completed the unamimously approved merge of wood wool.'nuf said. Dicklyon (talk) 16:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC) January 2009Please stop assuming ownership of articles such as Wood wool. Doing so may lead to disruptive behavior such as edit wars and is a violation of policy, which may lead to a block from editing. If you really want to move or split content, you need a discussion and consensus. You tried that, and got no support. Give us your ownership of "wood wool" and work on improving the article on this topic at excelsior (wood wool). Dicklyon (talk) 18:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC) FP, if you really want the article to move to wood wool, here's the procedure: use the "move" link to attempt to move it; it will fail, but will give you a link to the instructions for how to ask for a contested move; follow the instructions, starting a discussion section for it and registering it on the appropriate page, to attract a few people to comment; if there's a consensus to move it, an admin will then do so, making the existing one a redirect to the other. Dicklyon (talk) 16:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC) This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits, such as those you made to wood wool. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. If instead of following the procedure described above, you insist on recreating your inappropriate content fork again as a way to circumvent the normal contested move process, I will request than an admin block you for persistent disruption of wikipedia. Dicklyon (talk) 16:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Thank you for your suggestion. You have made it in the past as well and I chose another path: To suggest a merger of the two articles; a proposal which is under discussion now. I find it difficult to understand why a different course of action from the one you are suggesting makes you think it is disruptive and you call this vandalism. I really find this sad. You are welcome to call any administrator to take a look at my actions and your actions of course. --FocalPoint (talk) 17:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC) To assist this, I point here to deletions of content by Dicklyon:
and also removal of a suggestion for merger:
I suppose that we have a better picture here. --FocalPoint (talk) 18:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Admin intervention requestedI have requested intervention, such as a temporary block, via the usual shortcut for vandalism. If they tell me this is not a satisfactory mechanism, I'll go to AN/I or whatever. Dicklyon (talk) 03:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC) Thank you for the notice. Please note that I will not be able to make any comment or replies for the next days due to other obligations. --FocalPoint (talk) 03:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC) Move proposalSince you wouldn't, I started a move proposal for you. Your comments are welcome on Talk:Excelsior (wood wool). Dicklyon (talk) 05:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC) This was on Kevin's advice. We can wait a few days for your comments if you're not available. I didn't mean to use your schedule inconvenience as an advantage. Dicklyon (talk) 05:31, 26 January 2009 (UTC) HiHi Focal Point! I think I am leaving. Thank you for your support! Cheers PHG (talk) 14:08, 31 January 2009 (UTC) The above-linked Arbitration case has been closed and the final decision published. PHG's mentorship and sourcing arrangement is both revised and extended; the full list of new conditions are available by clicking this link. Furthermore, the original topic ban on editing articles related to medieval or ancient history has been rescinded. PHG is prohibited from editing articles relating to the Mongol Empire, the Crusades, intersections between Crusader states and the Mongol Empire, and Hellenistic India—all broadly defined. This topic ban will last for a period of one year. He is permitted to make suggestions on talk pages, provided that he interacts with other editors in a civil fashion. Any particular article may be added or removed from PHG's editing restriction at the discretion of his mentor; publicly logged to prevent confusion of the restriction's coverage. The mentor is encouraged to be responsive to feedback from editors in making and reconsidering such actions. Furthermore, the Committee noted that PHG has complied with the Committee's restrictions over the past ten months, and that PHG is encouraged to continue contributing to Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects. PHG should be permitted and encouraged by other editors to write well-sourced suggestions on talkpages, to contribute free-content images to Wikimedia Commons, and to build trust with the community. For the Arbitration Committee, American terminology for excelsiorThe fact that excelsior is sometimes called wood wool is not in dispute, but in America the primary name is excelsior; leave well enough alone; se don't need a brit trying to force their terminology on us. Dicklyon (talk) 00:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC) Hi Focal PointGlad you found it! Cheers PHG (talk) 20:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC) CarcinogensPlease don't move war without discussion. Physchim62 (talk) 19:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC) ImageIf you still wish to include the "Smoking Kills" image on Health effects of tobacco, I would support you with that. Johnfos (talk) 00:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC) Your image
RfD nomination of Orestes (Greek mythology)I have nominated Orestes (Greek mythology) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Protonk (talk) 18:04, 6 September 2009 (UTC) Speedy deletion declined: MetaxourgioHello FocalPoint, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Metaxourgio - a page you tagged - because: makes an useful redirect. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. SoWhy 16:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC) Courtesy noteYou are receiving this note because you participated in this TFD. Some of these have been re-nominated here, where you may wish to comment. Thanks, –xenotalk 14:27, 20 March 2010 (UTC) Richard ChurchWell done on all your work on the articles about my compatriot Richard Church on the English and Greek Wikipedias. You obviously have a great interest in the man, as do I.--Damac (talk) 21:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC) Hellenic StateI've rewritten it a bit, and removed the reference to the Septinsular Republic as I am not sure whether Kapodistrias was indeed inspired by this. If you know that for a fact, feel free to re-add it. Constantine ✍ 12:02, 9 January 2011 (UTC) You were previously involved. Please see. Your note about checkuserHi FocalPoint, I do not have checkuser access now because I'm on the ombsbuman commission for the WMF. So, I suggest that you contact another person with checkuser access who could forward your request for information to the checkuser mailing list or a steward. FloNight♥♥♥♥ PlanudesHi FocalPoint, thanks, but what should I see on that page? (I can only see part of their article about Planudes.) Adam Bishop (talk) 11:43, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
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Please stopWith your reverts of my edits in naming of Ottoman histories of modern Central European countries. Why you doing this? There were no such territories as "Ottoman Serbia", "Ottoman Hungary", etc. I did not had time to discuss this issue further on talk page of Serbia-related article, but you now moving Wikipedia to heavy POV. PANONIAN 17:57, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Stalkingwell, can you then explain how you appeared on pages Serbia (Territory of the German Military Commander) and Ottoman period in the history of Hungary just after my own edits? PANONIAN 19:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
I have to point put that I consider all your accusations and aggressive attitude as personal attacks and I am asking you to stop. I am not the one who renamed a great number of articles and categories - you did it on the 17th and 18th of March 2012. I only reverted some of your edits for which you consulted nobody. I am not trying to impose changes in Wikipedia. You did and you still try to, despite consensus [4]. I would appreciate if you would stop. --FocalPoint (talk) 21:05, 4 May 2012 (UTC) WP:AEThere's an WP:AE discussion taking place that may concern you. Regards -- Director (talk) 10:02, 6 May 2012 (UTC) Hi, are you actually reviewing this or just passing comments? Jezhotwells (talk) 08:58, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
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