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Your draft article, Draft:Literary Crusader

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Your draft article, Draft:Fyodor Lukyanov

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Your draft article, Draft:The Countryman

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kimball High School (Kimball, West Vriginia) has been accepted

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Xegma(talk) 12:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Lucien D. Starke Jr.

To answer your question, per MOS everything in the lede and infobox is supposed to be included and sourced in the body of the article. The lede (opening section) is there for people who do not want to read the full article. I realize that this duplication does not make much sense in a Stub or Start class article, but it does make sense the longer an article gets. Rublamb (talk) 02:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

In my very humble opinion repeating the birthdate isn't useful when we give it up front. I think what's included in the intro should be covered in the body, not repeated. Birthdate is also in the infobox?

I posted some entries I need help with on the North Carolina wikiproject talk page and Draft:High School of Charleston in South Carolina was just deleted if any of those subjects interest you. Do we state when schools were established in the opening and again in the history section? Oh me oh my.. FloridaArmy (talk) 03:12, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I never used to repeat the birthdate in the Early Life section. However, all of my GA reviewers maintained that it is correct to do so. In addition, the lede is not supposed to have sources; the exception being for a quote. As a result, there would not be a source for the dates if this content was not included in the main body of the article. I am not going to look for a good example, but the lede of a FA is typically longer than a start or even a C class article, making an article's first sentence and the Early Life section pretty distant and not viewable at the same time on most screens.

With regards to schools, I would not worry about it for stubs or start class articles. However, it is correct to include that info in both the summary/lede and the history section, especially as the article expands into sections. Here is an example of a FA for a college: Pomona College, and a couple of GA for collges: Briarcliff College and East Carolina University.

I am currenlty working on a big WP cleanup project that has uncovered a bunch of sub-par aticles. I took a break from that and have added five or six biographies, but need to get back to that project. I also have a list of nearly 100 redlinked academies and colleges that I am working on. I thought I would get though the list quickly by creating stubs but keep getting distracted by finding lots of sources and/or notable founders who also needed articles. There is just not enough time! Rublamb (talk) 03:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your thoughtful reply! Makes sense. If birthdates are in the infobox that would be a place where they could be cited. Thanks for all your great work! Definitely not enough hours in the day. I am going to check your userpage to see if I can see the list of academies in stub and redlinked form. I find that each entry I work on is a can of worms with a dozen other notable subjects related that are completely missing or inadequate at present. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I personally hate the clutter of citations in the infobox. Although infobox citations are an option, MOS says infobox content should come from the article. A bit of a mixed message. I tend to go with what I know with pass GA.

The most current version of my list is here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities/Redlinked institutions, with others adding details and suggestions. It is linked through the Redlinked Institutions tab of Wikipedia:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities. I also just created an Articles for Creations page and tab where we can drop missing fraternal groups and people associated with those groups (or people linked to the redlinked schools). We previously had these hidden within our watchlist. I mostly work on minority groups and early women's professional groups as they were and continue to be excluded/underrepresented in traditional publications and directories. Of course, digging into those often identifies notable people. Previously, we were not collecting those names, so they were just a redlink if I didn't stop and create the article.

You are, of course, welcome to help with any of this or to suggest other articles. Rublamb (talk) 17:28, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

User:Rublamb you are familiar with Jerry Urso and his scholarship? FloridaArmy (talk) 20:55, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I am not. Rublamb (talk) 17:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

I think he is the unofficial historian of fraternal organizations. Full name Gerald Orso. I think he wrote a book on the subject. But I am not finding it at the moment. FloridaArmy (talk) 19:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

User:Rublamb this article described Urso (Jerry or Gerry?). Canter Brown Jr. told me he is very helpful and approachable. FloridaArmy (talk) 19:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kimball High School (Kimball, West Vriginia)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Francis Pearson (American politician) has been accepted

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Your draft article, Draft:Sam Houston Industrial and Training School

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Your draft article, Draft:Amy Wolfram

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Your submission at Articles for creation: High School of Charleston (November 17)

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Your draft article, Draft:Thomas Arthur Potter

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