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I want the page to stay but I don’t know to provide fact-checked history about the B13, except with what I can find. For which parts of the article do you want evidence? Wikis6501 (talk) 15:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Wikis6501, I placed the notice stating that it may not meet GNG, particularly because I thought that it didn't meet the second part: "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." At the time I was reading it, I only identified one independent source.
For B13 in particular, I noted that the history had a large section without citations, for example:
"The B13 route began on October 25, 1921 under the operation of Independent Buses. It was then operated by the Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit Corporation years later, before it was sold to the City on June 1, 1940. The original route was between the Cypress Hills station and Seaview Avenue. It was merged with the first B19 route on May 1, 1938, then extended to Ridgewood Terminal around 1947."
I would imagine some of the detail of this could be from MTA, but there may also be good secondary sources on public transit in Brooklyn more generally that could provide citations and help to establish notability. The Notability (transport) page might be also be a useful resource. Hope this helps! Ewhite31 (talk) 15:55, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Citations are hard to find. Two of the bus pages that show evidence-lacking history have the tag “citation needed”, and that may have kept the pages from being redirected, so I’m going to add these tags. I live in a working-class family who does not want me to pay for what they think is unnecessary stuff, which may be the only way to get citations sometimes. Where I was able to get evidence I cited it. Capisce? Wikis6501 (talk) 16:59, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NPP Reviews
Welcome to New Page Patrol, and thank you for all the hard work you've been doing! It's great to see new patrollers taking part in the backlog drive! As I'm looking through the logs for some of the top patrollers, I noticed a couple things from your recent reviews that might benefit from a bit more attention as you get started:
When you're patrolling, it's important to look at the page history, especially if you choose to nominate a page for deletion or draftify as the page history can give you vital information. For instance, you nominated Shackles for A3 because it was blank; however, the page had recently been blanked from a redirect. As such, the best move would be to restore the redirect, which another editor did. On that note, it may also be update your Twinkle settings to add a CSD log. If you do, you can add successfully CSD'ed articles to your backlog count at the end of the month! This also helps you hone your speedy deletion skills.
I also noticed you marked a few pages as reviewed and tagged them for notability concerns (for example [1], [2]). The general goal of NPP is to ensure new articles meet baseline notability guidelines. If you're uncertain whether a subject is notable, it's best to either move to the next article and/or tag the article without marking it as reviewed.
I know it can feel a bit overwhelming at first, but slowing down to follow the New Page Patrol flowchart can help ensure thorough and consistent reviews. It may also be helpful to start by looking through WP:NPPSORT, where you can look at articles whose notability guidelines you're more familiar with.
If you ever have questions or need a second opinion on a page, don't hesitate to reach out. Many experienced patrollers (myself included!) are happy to help. Thanks again for your work on New Page Patrol! 😊 Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your suggestion. I like the idea of adding the lectures to the main EP article. Will do when I get a chance. Thanks again david Dz3 (talk) 09:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
