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Removing spaces from citation templates

Please don't do this. Many editors prefer spaces in citation templates. This is unnecessary, potentially disruptive, and violates WP:REFVAR, which says that the editors who established the citation style are the ones who set it for the article. I prefer spaces, and you didn't discuss on the talk page and get consensus before unilaterally removing them. In generally, unnecessary edits should not be made. Also, your edit summary was misleading, saying you were correcting a typo. That is also discouraged. Skyerise (talk) 10:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Skyerise: WP:REFVAR is about the citation style, that does not refer to superfluous spaces. Your recent rollback at Guardian angel is a clear violation of the guidelines about typos and formatting operated via WP:AWB/T, and it will be reverted. Refrain from such disruptive actions, thanks. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So in my opinion these spaces are NOT superfluous. Drmies (talk) 21:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
B.S. Now, you are edit-warring. Get consensus on the talk page per bold, revert, discuss. Skyerise (talk) 11:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Skyerise: Watch your language and respect the guidelines, otherwise further measures will be taken. Thanks. Have a good day. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing wrong with my language. Many editors do not use visual editing tools. We rely on the templates being easily readable and editable by having spaces in citation templates. Per WP:IAR (ignore all rules), it is completely within my rights to revert edits that make an article harder to edit. Go complain about it wherever you want, you are simply wrong and any such complaint is likely to WP:BOOMARANG. Skyerise (talk) 11:19, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Est. 2021, you're presumably aware of WP:ANI#Pointless edit-war potentially breaking guidelines, having started it, but I don't think anyone has pinged you or notified you since discussion has shifted to focus on your conduct. Please respond there at your earliest convenience. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 2024

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Your recent editing history at Guardian angel shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Skyerise (talk) 11:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Skyerise, I haven't looked at this--maybe it's the same problem in Existence. Est. 2021, spaces in templates are NOT typos. I put one after every parameter to make sure that a template is not one long single line. Please don't do that anymore. Drmies (talk) 21:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Haha, now I see the section above. Drmies (talk) 21:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Drmies: apparently they did it to 356 articles before I happened to notice it on one of my watchlisted articles. Then they took themselves to ANI, saving me the trouble! Skyerise (talk) 21:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's literally what you proposed me to do in the previous thread, so yeah, I'm glad you boys are having fun. I just answered y'all on the noticeboard. Goodnight. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 01:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Was this nonsense fun for you, Skyerise? Est. 2021, I think us boys are both kind of scratching our heads over the usefulness of your edits, considering the time we spent on Yamantaka. Seriously, if you're going to be picky about curly quotes, be picky about double curly quotes too. Drmies (talk) 02:14, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • @Drmies: I don't pick anything at all, curly quotes are automatically fixed by AWB without external settings needed. Do your homeworks and be more mature. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 02:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • I don't think he's getting that using automated tools doesn't exempt one from WP:BRD nor has he acknowledged on the ANI thread that automated edits should never be restored after a revert and certainly shouldn't be edit warred over. I suspect if he doesn't explicitly acknowledge that there, he's likely to be blocked. And no, that's not nonsense. Skyerise (talk) 10:08, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

whatever floats your boat

I am amused that your edit to Languages of Italy consists almost entirely of adding invisible spaces to subheads and removing them everywhere else. —Tamfang (talk) 06:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamfang: I'm always open to constructive criticism and proposals, but I don't see any of them here. What's the point of this new thread? I mean... Glad to know you're amused, but please let me know when you grow up and we have something to constructively talk about. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 2024

Information icon Hello, I'm Skyerise. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. I refer to telling the above user to "grow up". Personally, I'd like to say that to you, but I don't. Skyerise (talk) 11:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let it there. B.S., Haha, saving me the trouble!, drop the bomb, it sucks, whatever floats your boat, I am amused... Here's a partial compilation of the civil, mature and constructive attitude y'all showed both here and at the ANI. Do you really think I'll let you talk like that? Do you think your threats scare me? Are you gonna take the food from my table? Y'all really need to grow up. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:32, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Skyerise (talk) 11:40, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Skyerise: Let me introduce you the basic golden rule: "Show respect and you'll receive respect. Show lack of respect and you'll receive lack of respect. That's on you to choose." Do you want to go on writing unrespectful and immature comments like B.S., Haha, saving me the trouble!, drop the bomb, it sucks, whatever floats your boat, I am amused? Think about that and answer yourself. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those are mostly comments from other editors and have nothing to do with me. The two comments I made (B.S., saving me the trouble) do not actually attack you and don't run afoul of the no personal attacks policy. Now, if I were to call you "thin-skinned" (which I'm not, I'm just using it as an example), that might be considered a personal attack. But telling two editors now to "grow up" is certainly a violation of policy. Skyerise (talk) 11:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But by all means go open another complaint at ANI. I love watching the WP:BOOMARANG effect. Skyerise (talk) 11:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, yeah, and exactly how much "respect" did you have for my concerns about your removal of spaces from templates? Exactly none. So don't lecture me on respect, dude. Skyerise (talk) 11:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel (talk) 23:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restoration of multiple citation errors

I'd like to point out that your reversion of my edits to Śuri restored multiple HarvErrors which I had painstakingly corrected. Please install the error reporting tools so you can see such errors and not revert productive work. Documentation is linked above and at Category:Harv and Sfn template errors. Your "preferred version" that you reverted to has 33 glaring errors in orange lettering when you have the proper tools installed. The error reporting tools tell which citations are not used, which short citations have no corresponding full citation, etc. You are working blind and don't appear to understand what other editors who use the tools are doing when they fix these problems.

Every single source that I moved to further reading was not cited using {{sfn}} templates. This is easy to determine when they are moved to further reading, b/c the tools will highlight an error next to the short citation that refers to them and next to the further reading item itself when something in further reading is actually cited. Use of tools allows an editor to clearly determine what sources are actually used and what sources are not. Also, if an article uses CS2 citations, then we list the sources in the "Works cited" section (the heading activates the error checking, as does the Further reading heading) and we do not also create a list of ref tag enclosed citations in the {{Reflist}} template. Referencing style should be kept consistent. The article was a complete mess before I fixed it. Skyerise (talk) 10:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Skyerise: Sure, feel free to fix the HarvErrors I can't see, but you also moved to further readings sources that are actually cited (whereas in the previous text or in the expanded one), like Servius, and others apparently got lost/deleted, so citing them gave me back citation error. Please, let's collaborate constructively. I'm now going to restore the expanded article without editing the reference section, will you take care of it? Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I didn't. Only Servius 300b is cited. Servius 300 is not. Install the tools so you can see what you are doing: it's relatively simple. The sourcing on that article was excessively complex, broken, and impossible to understand where it is broken without the tools. If something is cited inline (which is deprecated), then it needs to be converted to an {{sfn}} template and the further reading item then can be moved to Works cited and the "|ref=none" tag removed. Skyerise (talk) 11:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Skyerise: No, it is. Please, check again, thanks. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have checked again. If I remove the "ref=none" tag, the Servius 300 reference throws an error, because there is no corresponding {{sfn}} reference to it. Skyerise (talk) 11:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Skyerise: There is, or better: there was. You literally deleted that with your reverts. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Skyerise: Probably because you edited Servius 300a into Servius 300, without the A. If you look at citations section, it is cited. Would you like me to fix this or do you prefer doing that yourself? Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, self-published books (Lulu.com) may not be used as sources. Skyerise (talk) 11:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would prefer you install the tools so you can see for yourself that that is not the case. You keep making a big mess every time you touch the article. I will continue to revert until you can correct it properly yourself using the tools. Skyerise (talk) 11:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • What are you talking about? I had restored the expanded article without touching the references, why did you revert that? Please, don't be prejudicedly hostile, let me understand what issues you refer to. I'm just trying to expand and improve the article. What's this "Lulu" thing you're talking about? I literally didn't edit the references. Moreover, if I cite Servius300a and you remove the A from the sources, it will give back citation error. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Skyerise: Let me know, thanks. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 12:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You added a citation to a Lulu.com edition of a book. Lulu.com is a self-publishing operation. (See WP:SPS). We should not be citing self-published edition when other independently published editions are available. For one thing, it throws the quality of the source into doubt, and could be consider promoting a publication that someone is making money from. Skyerise (talk) 12:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Skyerise: You're clearly evading the Servius300a issue, which you caused and lied about. By the way, as already noted by DuncanHill, Babelon was a not numismatist. the Lulu is a reprint, does not affect reliability. Look at the source, don't leap to conclusion based on a recent republication. This attitude doesn't appear to be constructive. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 12:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not "merge" anything; 300a is cited, 300b is cited, they are both in Works cited. 300 is not cited, it's the full set of volumes, and the citations are only to individual volumes (i.e. 300a and 300b), not the whole set, so 300 is not cited. I did not change any of the citations, just separated them into cited and not cited. Please avoid making personal attacks by accusing me of things I did not do. And even if it is a republication, we don't cite the Lulu edition. Cite the first edition or any other edition published by an independent publisher - but there is no reason to cite the Lulu edition when other editions exist. Skyerise (talk) 19:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Śuri

I have fixed the no-target errors that you introduced. DuncanHill (talk) 11:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there were still further errors left after you edits and I've reverted the whole thing again. Est. 2021 needs to install the tools and stop working blind. Skyerise (talk) 11:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There were a few which needed moving from Further reading to Sources. You didn't give me a chance to do that. DuncanHill (talk) 11:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By all means carry on then. You were already posting that you had fixed everything, when it clearly wasn't fixed yet. Skyerise (talk) 11:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reverting two of my editions

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DOY articles

Re your edit on May 15, please do not try to "cleanup (via script) | fixed dashes using User:Ohconfucius/dashes.js" - these articles have their own style, please see WP:DOYSTYLE. Thanks, Kiwipete (talk) 08:18, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kiwipete: the edit summary is cleanup (via script) | fixed dashes using User:Ohconfucius/dashes.js, with precise links to both scripts (by Qwerfjkl & Ohconfucius, respectively), both of which respect WP:DOYSTYLE. Reverting useful edits based on personal misunderstandings is not the way of Wikipedia, please do better. Thanks, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 12:39, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since I've been pinged... Whilst I agree that the diff is confusing (for which I recommend this excellent script), and perhaps falls a bit afoul of WP:COSMETIC, I don't think that warrants reverting the edit, and I don't see any style conflict here. MOS applies to all articles, and the cosmetic whitespace changes don't affect an article's style. — Qwerfjkltalk 12:50, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chicago articles

Could you please fix the first sentence of several of the Chicago articles you have been editing. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Magnolia677: They're 10, listed at Leyden Township, Illinois#Cities, towns, villages, and as far as I see you already 'fixed' them your way, and –despite I don't like that punctuation style– I'm okay with that, but it's your revert at Leyden Township, Illinois itself which I find problematic: when there's a plausible yet unsourced statement, we tag it with {{cn}} and similia, we don't revert it. Deleting encyclopedic content is an extrema ratio to only be used in front of explicit vandalism. Knowledge should never get lost by mistake. Restore Leyden Township, Illinois, add {{cn}} to the statement you contest and wait for the source to be added. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 16:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:USCITIES. My way is pretty standard. Also, please stop linking "United States", per MOS:OL. --Magnolia677 (talk) 17:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: I'm okay with that, as I said above. The only thing I contest is removing encyclopedic content instead of tagging it with {{cn}}. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 20:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are welcome to add the edit back with a reliable source. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: Sure, but you would keep making the same mistake on other pages. Please, start correctly using {{cn}}. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 20:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why I fixed your page

The reason that I fixed your user subpage is that it is causing three of your pages to be listed on a high-priority error report. Span tags can't wrap block content (i.e. stuff inside div tags, and multi-line content). If I broke something, please show me what I broken, and I will be happy to work on a different fix. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonesey95: I appreciate your intent, and I totally understood your good faith fix, but it unfortunately broke the quote on my userpage.
With span tags, it renders as:

Two things are infinite, as far as we know: the universe and human stupidity...
and I am not yet completely sure about the universe.

— Albert Einstein, 1879 - 1955 *
With div tags, it renders as:

Two things are infinite, as far as we know: the universe and human stupidity...
and I am not yet completely sure about the universe.

— 
Albert Einstein, 1879 - 1955
*
(which is quite annoying)
Moreover, as I also use it for other purposes, I need it to stay versatile, so I cannot change it radically, and I guess I will have to keep it this way despite the Lint error, unfortunately. Is there a way to bypass the flagging? Thanks, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 16:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for engaging, and I apologize for breaking that quotation formatting. With your explanation, I was able to fix the instance where a span tag was being used to wrap an entire table, which is an invalid usage (and no, unfortunately, there is no way to stay off of the list, which is especially annoying for those of us who fix the pages). The list is clear of your user pages. Carry on! – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Hypnôs: I definitely don't need your assistance, padawan; I'm not a newcomer. Btw, fair take, but there's plenty of other sources stating the same thing, it will not be hard to replace that. Meanwhile, the next time you decide to call an entire town with 82,608 inhabitants a "stronghold" for "terrorists" just because some biased source did, learn to WP:QUOTEPOV first. Have a good life. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 20:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]