en User talk:ErrantX Archive 2013 October

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Talk:Bradley Manning/October 2013 move request

Greetings. Because you participated in the August 2013 move request regarding this subject, you may be interested in participating in the current discussion. This notice is provided pursuant to Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:28, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 October 2013

Op-ed: Commons medical diagnostic images under threat from unresolved ownership

Discussion report: References to individuals and groups, merging wikiprojects, portals on the Main page, and more

News and notes: WMF signals new grantmaking priorities

Featured content: Bobby, Ben, Roger and a fantasia

Arbitration report: Infoboxes: After the war

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The Signpost: 09 October 2013

Traffic report: Shutdown shenanigans

WikiProject report: Australian Roads

Featured content: Under the sea

News and notes: Extensive network of clandestine paid advocacy exposed

In the media: College credit for editing Wikipedia

Arbitration report: Manning naming dispute and Ebionites 3 cases continue; third arbitrator resigns

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The Signpost: 16 October 2013

News and notes: Vice on Wiki-PR's paid advocacy; Featured list elections begin

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Arbitration report: Manning naming dispute case closes

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The Bugle: Issue XCI, October 2013

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The Signpost: 23 October 2013

News and notes: Grantmaking season—rumblings in the German-language community

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In the media: The decline of Wikipedia; Sue Gardner releases statement on Wiki-PR; Australian minister relies on Wikipedia

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Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013

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Deletion of the Nimrod_(programming_language) article.

You have deleted the Nimrod (Programming Language) article based on CSD G4. While the article was a recreation of an article which was deleted per a deletion discussion, further modifications have added citations which deserved a reevaluation of that decision. Is this irrelevant per the rules of Wikipedia or have you simply not noticed these changes? dom96 (talk) 00:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Just noticed your reply on HN. I suppose that answers my question. dom96 (talk) 00:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I did look over those changes, however to qualify for an exemption to G4 deletion criteria the content must either show significant differences to the original content, or address the issues raised at AFD for which the community agreed on deletion. In this case the additions did not sufficiently meet those requirements. However, of course, I'd be happy for you to request a review of the deletion as other admins might have a different view! I'm trying to put together a programming wiki as we speak, so hopefully these languages will have a place to go! Stay tuned :) --Errant ^(chat!) 09:20, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. I think jimktrains2 on HN raises some good points. What consistitutes a good source for a programming language? I know all about Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but the Go (programming language) article is filled with sources to its own webpage and sources like blog posts. Why can't blog posts about Nimrod by programmers independentent of the project be considered a reliable source for Nimrod when they are for Go? Perhaps a review of deletion would be appropriate, would you recommend it? As for your programming wiki how will it differ from what is already out there, i.e. Rosetta Code? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dom96 (talk • contribs) 11:46, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Blogs are difficult; how do you establish their independence? Their accuracy (because the key aspect of a reliable source is the idea of editorial control)? The authority of the writer? It's hard! I think certainly some blog posts would be a reasonable source for programming languages - as an example Tech Crunch is a blog, and often unreliable, but has been discussed and agreed a reasonable source in certain situations for certain topics (for example, technology news/opinion). You're one stage too far along in the process - what needs to happen first is for those guidelines to be established and then the content can be brought in. As I said, please do feel free to get the deletion reviewed - however I'm 99% confident that any other administrator, and the rest of the community, will agree G4 criteria was met. It's fairly clear cut. --Errant ^(chat!) 12:12, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Alright, fair enough. Hopefully it won't take long for Nimrod to become notable enough :). In any case, thanks for the info. Let me know when this programming wiki of yours is live please. dom96 (talk) 20:20, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree with saying "fair enough" to this. Work on the page in question was ongoing (I know, I was one of the ones involved) and it should not have been deleted, at least not under the G4 rule. Additionally, it's not sufficient to simply keep trotting out the tired old canard that "blogs aren't reputable sources". I'm sorry, but context matters, and in the programming world, blog discussions, forum discussions (among other things) do make things notable. We have to find a way, as Wikipedians, to acknowledge and incorporate this. Sprhodes (talk) 21:41, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

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