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Wikipediarules2221 21:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Long speech

I put a long speech on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User_talk:Epbr123_blanking on the theory that you won't delete it there, and everyone will get a chance to see it. Please read it. It's important. I do think you are well meaning, but a lot of people don't, and in the end community consensus is what drives this thing. It is as important to convince people that you mean well as to actually mean well. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 17:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Notability confusion

In several AfDs, you write "Notable porn stars tend to have made over 100 movies." That's not a correct interpretation; making 100 movies was once rare enough to be notable, but it was never a requirement. Probably the most glaring counter-example is Bambi Woods, who made all of 2(!) movies and is quite notable, because one of them was Debbie Does Dallas. Linda Lovelace is also highly notable and didn't make many films. Of course 100 films is now debatable, partly because of such misunderstandings. Not meeting a specific one of several criteria isn't a deletion reason. That's like arguing that George Bush isn't notable because he never won a Nobel Prize. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 21:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• I wasn't using the number of films as a reason to delete. I was just countering Dekkappai, Disavian and LaMenta3's usual arguments that articles should be kept due to the number of films made. The articles I nominated didn't appear to pass any criteria. Epbr123 21:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • [1] "76 movies ... which is very low": I wouldn't say that. It's not unusually high enough to be notable, but it's hardly low. The average person walking down the street has not performed in 76 porn films! Note that I haven't done a thorough research of it yet, so I'm not opining one way or another on the article as such, just that argument isn't right. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 21:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
    • I said its low for porn star standards. Epbr123 21:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
      • I understand, but we don't have any reference on porn star standards (unless you know of one, in which case I would be very glad to see it, it would be very useful). The "100 film" rule was a reasonably bright line for "unusually prolific actresses", but it said nothing about what "porn star standards" were. For example, we have a category, Category:People_over_eight_feet_tall. If you know of a person over 8 feet tall, they almost certainly qualify for a Wikipedia article. They're very rare, and people will write books and articles about them merely because of their height, even if they don't do a single other notable thing in their lives. Someone merely 6 feet 8 inches tall isn't that unusual, they won't get a Wikipedia article merely because of that - but they aren't short! Even for basketball players, they aren't short. Same for someone with 76, or even 48 porn films. If they made fewer than 10 total, maybe you could say that isn't much of a career, but Jenna Jameson, for example, was quite notable before she had 48 films, and for several years did 5 per year without being considered inactive. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 22:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
        • You're right but on the other hand, other people shouldn't claim someone is notable because of the amount of movies or magazines they've appeared in. Epbr123 23:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Slow up!

I'll agree with you in that some of the articles are about non-notable actresses and should probably be deleted. Unfortunately, that way you're doing it definately raises hackles and you're not making friends this way. After all you've put up 12 articles up for AFD today... that's definately gonna tick people off. I would strongly suggest you slow up the pace of the AFDs. Why not tag the suspect articles with {{notability}} tags instead? If you take a look at the Skyy Black (porn star) article, it already had such a tag on it before your AFD. Tabercil 22:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

David Howell (footballer)

You nominated this article for deletion. Now that the article has been expanded, it is clear that he meets the terms of WP:BIO. Would you like to re-consider your nomination? Thanks. Daemonic Kangaroo 18:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Summaries

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thanks, and happy editing.

--Mel Etitis (Talk) 06:37, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

WikiThanks

Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and slowing down with the deletions. We didn't get along for a while, but I think we've gotten past all of that mess. Have a good day! :) —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 15:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar - it's good to be noticed. So many article to write/improve; so little time! Daemonic Kangaroo 16:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Close discussion

Close discussion on Jessica Lindgren thanks!--90.225.121.21 15:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Herne Bay, Kent

Good work, the Image:North East Kent.PNG looks good, but the powers that be don't like the "png" format, too much space, outside of my realm of expertise but Richtom80 from the WikiProject Kent should be able to help. - Olive Oil -_ŢάĽɮ^ḍőпє - 16:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Just a quick note, you should've put the request for Richard, on his Talk page - Olive Oil -_ŢάĽɮ^ḍőпє - 17:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Oops. I've moved it now. Thanks for all your help. Epbr123 17:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I will try and get that done tomorrow for you. It might be worth having a look at a program called inkscape, it is open source so free to download and use. It allows you to open SVG files and edit them. The reason SVG files are better is not only because the file size is smaller it also means that the files can be enlarged to any size (from A4 to as big as a building) because the image is stored as vectors instead of raster (pixels). Inkscape is a very easy program to use and great to get to grips with, if you do decide to try it and get stuck you can always drop me a message on my talk page and I will try and help you out. Richard Thompson (Talk! | Contribs) 17:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Cheers. I'll try that out. Epbr123 17:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I made the image SVG, I haven't replaced it on any pages yet. Download and take a look, make sure you download the svg not the png wikipedia renders. Image is Image:North_East_Kent.svg. Change it and reupload it if you like. :o) If you are happy, update all pages that the png is listed on. Richard Thompson (Talk! | Contribs) 20:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Aliene Ma'riage

Hi, I see you added a link to the Aliene Ma'riage page. You may have noticed it's under consideration for deletion. If you're interested in seeing it remain, please go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Aliene_Ma%27riage and leave a comment in favor. Thanks. Pkeets 01:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Herne Bay, Kent

I changed the sentance as "Victorian drama" is incorrect. Upstairs, Downstairs was set from 1903 to 1930, the Victorian era ended in 1901. The term "Edwardian drama" is sometimes used for UpDown but never "Victorian drama" as it is factually incorrect. I personally think that "period drama" is the best. --UpDown 10:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• Oh yes, you're right. I remember now the episode when George V came for dinner. Sorry. Epbr123 10:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Archimedes

I agree that the intro is too short at the moment (at least it is not too long). Could you produce some general suggestions for expanding it?--Ianmacm 07:25, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

The City of Peterborough

Hello. Can you please have another look at the article when you get a chance. Most of the changes you have requested have now been made. Thanks. 163.167.129.124 14:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

• Some good improvements have been made but five of the nine references I requested have still not been found. Epbr123 17:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. 163.167.129.124 15:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Eve Laurence

I speedy kept it becuase a very recent deletion debate with the same reason for deletion was determined to be keep. Unless there was an effective change in the WP:PORNBIO criteria, it would be repeating the same thing over again --w^L^<speak·check> 19:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Buses WikiProject

I notice that you have edited lists of bus routes recently. You might be interested in helping with the new WikiProject buses, especially the proposed Bus route list guide. We are also working out when a bus route should have its own article and other issues. --NE2 15:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Kate Bush

I just proofread the Kate Bush article - you did a good job on copyediting because there wasn't much left to do! I took the liberty of listing you as the copyeditor using the League of Copyeditors template on the talk page. Happy editing! Cricketgirl 16:19, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Sale, Greater Manchester

I feel that the issues you raised while reviewing the article for GA status have been addressed and I will relist the article. I would appreciate your thoughts, you raised some good points before. Thanks. Nev1 16:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

• I thought it worth mentioning that I think your recent efforts in working on the Sale article to try and take it from GA to FA status are little short of heroic. I would probably have lost patience with the whole process long ago. I don't agree with all the changes you've made to the article, but I understand why you made them :) ---- Eric 00:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Manhattan

The GA issues you had raised have been addressed, including the addition of nearly two-dozen sources for the items you raised and other material that would benefit from more detailed sourcing. Please review and let me know if any further changes are required. Alansohn 19:46, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

• The second set of GA issues you identified have been addressed, and other text and sources have been added to expand and improve the article. Please review the article again and let me know if any further changes are required to meet GA status. Alansohn 17:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Thomas Becket

The article Thomas Becket you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Thomas Becket for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a review. StAnselm 00:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Puppini Sisters Should go back on the Kate Bush Article

They Puppini Sisters are a notable group. As of Tuesday of this week week they were number 2 on the amazon.com bestsellers list and although original reasearch I have heard them on U.S. Radio. There are many articles on them in the U.K. press many of them commenting favorable or unfavorably on thier Andrews Sisters style cover of Wuthering Heights [2],[3],[4] Edkollin 16:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Further copyediting on Kate Bush

Just to let you know, I've proofread much of the article, and I'll keep watch over it to ensure that it stays grammatically correct. I want it to be featured as much as you do :) --Jitterro 04:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps we got off on the wrong foot

Things happen sometimes, one party sees something that wasn't really there ...

Anyway, I just want to thank you for your invaluable input into the Sale article (and also for your help on the Stretford article). I really wanted the Sale article to become some kind of an example for other articles about areas within Trafford, and that's what I think it's now becoming.

I will copy your ideas across to other Trafford articles, without any apology whatsoever, because they seem by and large to make sense to me :-). ---- Eric 23:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jasmine Sinclair

I just noticed that even though you improved the article a lot, you didn't actually state a formal opinion in the AFD. Do you think the article is notable enough to keep?--AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Whitstable

Just a quick query as to whether there is anything specific that you would like added to the Whitstable article as it is looking good at the moment. However, I do feel the section on the Great Fire of Whitstable is given undue prominence Thanks Duke of Whitstable 14:57, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Widnes

Thank you for your comment on the Widnes article which is currently a GA candidate. I modelled it on the Runcorn article which you yourself passed as a GA with the comment "great work"; so I used similar headings. I must say that I wondered if the Runcorn article had too many sub-headings, although for the casual visitor to the article it might make navigation easier. I am very happy to merge the sub-sections of the transport and religion sections. Incidentally I have also tried to follow the advice of Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements for guidance, although I do feel that the "Present day" heading is not helpful - surely anything other than "History" is "Present day". I also added a "Religion" section because if we have "Education" and "Transport", surely we should have "Religion" (that's a bit of an aside). I'm not so sure about "Sports and leisure centres" and "Sport"; the former refers to a sub-section of "Communal facilities", that is, we can all be involved in them, whereas "Sport" is more to do with the professional and near-professional sports in the town, which excludes most of us - making us spectators rather than participants; in other words I see them as definitely different.

Having said all this, do you advise me to deal now with the "Religion" and "Transport" sections along the lines you suggest, which might make it 'unstable' for GA assessment, or wait for an "On hold" to deal with it then? My interest in all this is, as a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Cheshire, to improve the quality of the articles relating to the places I know, replacing the rather poor material which was formerly there. My comments above are intended to be in the nature of enquiry rather than of criticism. Any help you can give me will be transmitted to other members of the project for the overall improvement of the Cheshire articles in Wikipedia who are already using the Runcorn article as a model. Best wishes. Peter I. Vardy 20:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Kent GA review

• • Absolutely my pleasure Epbr123. Thank you for your kindness. Best wishes --VS ^talk 23:27, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Well done on attacking the suggestions with such gusto. I did not expect your team to be able to complete the adjustments quite as quickly as you did. I note that you have put it back up for assessment and no doubt it will be assessed reasonably quickly - but I probably have to leave it for another pair of eyes at this stage as I have a number of GA assessments on the run at the moment. If it hasn't been assessed within a week or so I will have time to look at it again.--VS ^talk 03:00, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

• Looks like no-one has gotten around to Kent since my last comment above. Therefore, as promised, I have put it to the top my list of assessments for this weekend. Stand by. Cheers!--VS ^talk 03:58, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Nice one. Epbr123 16:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Birchington-on-Sea

You wrote:

I noticed that you were involved in the Birchington-on-Sea article. I'm currently trying to get the article to Featured Article status and I just wondered if you have any photos of the town which you could be added to the article.

I have very few that are easily accessible, good quality, etc. but there are loads on FlickR, particularly aerial shots from Dr Moores -- I'd suggest you contact him (or the others who've uploaded good shots) to see if you can get permission to use any of them.

HTH Ozaru 09:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Your use of vandal wanring templates.

I saw that you posted a "severe" warning here [5] for an IP editing Kate Bush. I reviewed the edits in question. The edits may have been POV or immature, but were not blatant vandalism. Neither did the IP appear to be repeatedly posting such edits on the page. Please do not bite newbies or be excessively harsh in use of warning templates. This scares away potentially good future editors...—Gaff ^ταλκ 01:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Whitstable

Well done Epbr123. Notes on talk page also. Keep up the great work.--VS ^talk 04:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Would just like to add my congratulations as well - the entry is looking far better now than before. Also, if you would like to change the Whitstable Harbour image to one showing the actual habour basin, feel free to add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dsc01278.jpg - a picture I took myself. Thanks Duke of Whitstable 21:13, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, forgot to add...if you do need any specific images I do have quite a few available that I am happy to release, etc. Thanks again Duke of Whitstable 21:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Birchington coast.jpg

Hello, you uploaded Image:Birchington coast.jpg and noted that it was under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial License. Unfortunately, images that are for non-commercial use and lack a fair use assertion can be speedy deleted from Wikipedia. I placed the {{cc-by-nc-2.0}} template on it; it is now a candidate for speedy deletion under CSD I3. Please let me know if you have questions. --Strangerer (Talk) 17:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Sale, Greater Manchester GA on hold

 GA on hold — Notes left on talk page. Nehrams2020 21:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Bellefontaine, Ohio

Stop leaving assessments on articles without providing rationale for the assessments. This degrades the hard work of other editors, and I consider it to be vandalism. Thank you. -- SwissCelt 11:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and now you decide to unilaterally fail the GAC, mere minutes after it was nominated? This is ridiculous. You could have saved us all some trouble by providing your comments when you assessed the article in the first place. Now we have a huge black mark on the article, and I'm PISSED. I'm going to take a day to cool off, per WP:3RR, but you'd better believe we're not done here. -- SwissCelt 12:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Herne Bay, Kent and others

Thanks for the barnstar! Note that a number of my comments on the Herne Bay nomination apply to your articles, including dates on captions and too much detail in the Notable residents section. Keep the good work up. CloudNine 16:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Have you addressed SandyGeorgia's prose objection? Just that I've noticed it's been there for a few days, whereas you're usually quick to address such objections. CloudNine 07:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

He advised that I take a few days away from the article so that I'll be more likely to spot problems with prose when I return to it. Epbr123 09:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Congrats on Herne Bay, Kent passing! CloudNine 18:12, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Kent

FA. Fine. Tell me what the procedure is. I have editorial reservation on most of the text and illustrations, in that while we have polished up the article to GA, the sections are a bit 'same-ish' with other articles. I've looked at the criteria for GA- and they look a bit bland surely it is a bit more complex. ClemRutter 17:33, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Westgate on Sea

I'm posting this here as I don't want to prejudice the FA nom with a vast amount of text under an Oppose. The history section is improving, but it still feels like a list of events with no underlying thread of history. A quick scan through some books has produced some info that may be of use in connecting the various strands and filling out some sections:

• EB1911 has a small period article on it which might be of general use: Westgate-on-Sea
• this article suggests the Streete Court School was called Wellington prep school.
• A German fighter made a forced landing in a field behind Westgate-on-Sea on 24/26 August 1942 after being shot down in a dogfight over the town. (from p.31 Jagdgeschwader 52: The Experten ISBN 1841767867). The Luftwaffe Fighters' Battle of Britain p.200 says it crash landed in Minster Road on 24 Aug and the pilot was captured.
• The British Seaside: Holidays and Resorts in the Twentieth Century (Studies in Popular Culture) has a couple of snippets:
  • After 1884 the resort was owned by Courts' Bank as the previous proprietors had absconded p.177
  • The resort was developed as if it was an exclusive London suburb with residential interests topping those of the occasional visitors (in contrast to the more downmarket Margate) p.179
• Charlie Mitchell trained at the St Mildred Hotel before his 1887 fight with John L. Sullivan (from p.246 John L. Sullivan and His America ISBN 0252064348)
• In 1888 the astronomer and journalist Joseph Norman Lockyer (later Sir Norman Lockyer) had an observatory built on the side of his house where he took the observations which formed the basis for his book The Sun's Place in Nature (from Agnes Mary Clerke and the Rise of Astrophysics pp.53-55 and The Sun's Place in Nature by J. Norman Lockyer)
• Sometime between 1891-1898 St John Philby, the father of Kim Philby, attended a school in Westgate run by A.A. Milne's father, J.V Milne (probably the Streete Court School) (from Eminent Georgians: The Lives of King George V, Elizabeth Bowen, St. John Philby, and Lady Astor p.132)
• The seaplane base was opened on 1 Aug 1914 and St Mildred's Hotel requisitioned for sleeping quarters. The base was used for both land and seaplanes but the land planes were moved to Marston in 1916 as the site at Westgate was less than ideal for landing and there had been an number of accidents. The treasury rebuked the Admiralty for not considering the unsuitability of the site before opening the base. The seaplanes remained active at Westgate and were incorporated into 219 Squadron shortly after the RAF took over operation in 1918. The seaplane base was never moved to Marston but was probably disbanded around 1919. (from Military Airfields of Britain: South East Kent,Hampshire,Surrey,Sussex p.266)
• The artist, Sir William Quiller Orchardson, had a house at Westgate where he painted many of his most well known pictures, and he was buried in the town. (pp.50-1 Dictionary of National Biography: Second Supplement. Volume 3 ISBN 0543881083)

Dante Gabriel Rossetti is listed as having died in the town in some biographies but it is likely a confusion with Birchington where he had a house (it's possible he was taken to Westgate for some reason before his death, but I haven't read that anywhere). Hope this helps. Yomangani^talk 00:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Glad you're sticking around

I'm not that expert on English municipalities, but have noticed you have gotten some heat for nominating a few for FA all at once. Glad you seem to have taken that in stride, and been able to continue. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Sunderland

Thanks for your extensive GA review and constructive criticism of the Sunderland article. I don't know who nominated it, but it is easily way off in terms of the number of citations required. The JPS^talk to me 17:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Penmon, Anglesey GA review

3 out of 4 comments fixed as per your suggestions. I disagreed with the 4th (combine geology and geography) but you'll see how I've addressed it, which I hope will satisfy you. I didn't think that geology fitted as a sub-topic of geography, and a combined heading of "Geography and geology" felt a bit clumpy. If it really is still a problem, perhaps you have an elegant suggestion to meet both points of view? Thanks for getting hold of the article so fast. Bencherlite 19:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

And thanks for the pass! Bencherlite 19:49, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Erie, PA

You recently put this article on hold and left some good suggestions. I was wondering what you meant by: "The 'See also' templates should be moved to the top of the sections.". I have some other things to address and I should be finishing up with the article in the next few days. Thanks, --T. Wiki

I have addressed everything you listed. I think it is ready to be reviewed, if something still needs to be addressed, please leave a message on my talk page. I think this is a very good article and should be passed as a GA. Thanks very much, --T. Wiki 01:52, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Lam Tin GA review

In the review, you said that the lists "should either be removed, made into prose, or be given their own articles". However, as WP:EMBED suggests, in certain cases such as that of Lam Tin, embedded lists are preferred to prose when the former gives greater readability. Moreover, neither WP:LIST and WP:EMBED demands removal of embedded lists of articles.

You also said that Lam Tin Estate had got too much mention in the article, considering that it no longer exists. However, I have a different point - considering the fact that Lam Tin Estate was the first residential project in the area, it should deserve full attention. Plus, that section also mentions the later use of the land previously occupied by Lam Tin Estate. The length of that section is actually alright.

The layout fix will be done right away by one of our fellow editors from WPHK. We welcome you to give further comments on the article at any time in the future. --Deryck C. 09:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Thunder Bay GA Rating

I updated parts of the article, please see the comment on Talk:Thunder Bay, Ontario#GA review. Vidioman 17:41, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Regarding wikilinking of years, do we wikilink a year in infoboxes, like the year a community was established, if it is stand alone? (year only) Vidioman 21:35, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again but, I expanded the city symbols subsection, if you could, please check it over. Thanks. Vidioman 22:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Birchington

I didn't see you had a lot of concurrent FAs - you've been having fun! Birchington has the same "in the day time" transport problem as the Westgate-on-Sea had, and although the Culture section starts well it dissolves a bit towards the end. I'll support it if you fix those. Yomangani^talk 15:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

talk:thunder bay

Media in Ontario can't be listed the same as the schools in Kent article, it would be too awkward. There are over 3000 radio stations and at least 50 TV stations, and about 200 news papers, it would just be too cumbersome. Regional media might work but that isn't an accepted standard. Vidioman 02:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Brands Hatch

Thanks for the rating! Tbone762 08:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks ...

... for the kind words :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:44, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

I absolutely pointed out that diff first and without anyone saying anything about it. Please pay attention and read the page before commenting. Thanks IvoShandor

Oh, just so you know, no hard feelings or anything, I am sure it was an oversight. IvoShandor 16:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Prospect Park GA Review

Thank you for the review. You've turned up the sort of inconsistencies that I had hoped an independent reviewer would uncover. Time constraints forbid me to do significant work on this article later this week, but I'll have time today and Saturday, and by that day anticipate addressing all of your concerns. I'll drop you a note then confirming this. In the meantime, I'd like to express my appreciation for the time you have taken for this review. Take care — Gosgood 09:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello Epbr123. I've implemented the improvements you have suggested. If, at your convenience, you could revisit the article, I'd be much obliged. Thank you. — Gosgood 17:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA

Thanks for your support (and position switching) in my recent, unsuccessful RfA. It's much appreciated. IvoShandor 16:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Vanadinite

truely speaking, the page seems to be a start class article. Sushant gupta (talk · contribs) 05:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Whitstable

Thanks for all your hard work on the Whitstable article. A fantastic job, well done. Nshimbi 10:09 15 June 2007 (UTC)

The Good Article Medal of Merit

		The Good Article Medal of Merit
		I have awarded you this medal for your work in helping to reduce the backlog during the Good Article Candidates Backlog Elmination Drive. You reviewed five or more articles during the drive, which helped to contribute to the large decrease in the backlog. If you have the time, please continue to review articles to help make sure the backlog does not jump back up to what it was. Good job and happy editing! Nehrams2020 06:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Blyth, Northumberland

Thanks for the rating and recommendations for Blyth, Northumberland. Dbam ^Talk/_{Contributions} 13:18, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Margate F.C.

Cheers for all those fixes to refs and dashes :-) ChrisTheDude 07:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Chew Stoke FAC

Thanks for all the advice on the Chew Stoke FAC - if you spot anything else please let me know. BTW you seem to edit lots of east Kent articles - I was brung up in Margit! — Rod ^talk 08:27, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Brazil Page

I've been working on this page along with other users for quite some time, but it is clearly not ready for "good article" status. I was against the nomination as there are entire sections without sufficient references (some have none at all) whilst other sections like "sports" need to be redone from scratch as they are full of POV. Also, right now the article is in the middle of an edit war since users can't come to terms about the relevancy of the Education and Health sections. I strongly support its inclusion, and so does the majority. We're trying to reason with the minority and the debate is on, so it's not the best of times for nominations.

Considering all this, can we cancel the nomination? It's pointless and a waste of people's time.

Sparks1979 21:43, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The article is far from GA, but placing the review on hold may provide an incentive for some editors to start work on the referencing problem. Epbr123 22:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Kent

I spoke of my reservations of the text of Kent but didn't have time to elucidate. I have two hours now so I will list them. As you are taking the lead I am sharing my thoughts, bearing in mind that I am a poor subeditor this cannot be seen as definitive- indeed I criticise my own postings. Please delete when you have made a copy- sorry about the capitals but it was the easiest way to do this job quickly.ClemRutter 16:08, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

General

• Trivial facts promoted =TRIV=
• Important facts missed =IMPORT=
• inconsistencies between head and sections or sections and major article =INCONSIS=

• Two many sentences start with a subsidary clause where it should start with the subject or subject pronoun.=SUBSID=
• rambling subordinate clauses =RAMBLE=
• Sentences with the coordinating conjunction where the two halve relate to different sunjects =CONJ=
• through on in along etc wrongly used =PREP=
• nouns taking inappropiate verbs.=GOV=
• Verbs taking wrong object =VERB=
• incorrect shorthand such as 'Kent produced'=SH=
• lack of precision in dates and location =PRECISION=
• wrong word =USAGE=

Kent is the southeasternmost=NOT A WORD= county in England. Its county town is Maidstone and its only city=SH= is Canterbury, =RAMBLE= which is the seat of the Archbishop of Canterbury. Kent has land borders with East Sussex, Surrey and Greater London, and a defined boundary with Essex in the middle of the Thames estuary. The ceremonial county of Kent includes the unitary authority of Medway, and the administrative county of Kent. Kent has a nominal border with France halfway along =PREP= the Channel Tunnel.

Situated between the capital and the continent=SUBSID=, Kent =SH= is a primary trade route and has been in the front line of a number of conflicts=CONJ=, including the Battle of Britain in World War II. Through much of the past 800 years,=SUBSID= the county's ports had been relied upon to provide ships during times of war, especially the Cinque Ports in=PREP= the 12th–14th centuries and Chatham Dockyard in the 16th–20th centuries.=INCONSIST= The Cinque Ports were independant od the county

Kent is known as the Garden of England due to its agricultural influence=USAGE=, extensive=USAGE= orchards and hop-gardens. Cement, papermaking and aircraft construction have also been major industries in northwest Kent, although these are now in decline. Tourism and service industries have grown throughout the county=POV=Sheppey, Darford?= in recent years =MISSES THE DOCKYARD- the raison d'etre of Cement and engineering also wealden iron to provide dockyard cannons=.

History

Main article: History of Kent

The area has been occupied since the Lower Palaeolithic =USAGE= THIS IS A GEOLOGICAL LAYER NOT A TIME= as finds from the quarries at Swanscombe attest. During the Neolithic the Medway megaliths=TRIVIAL= were built and there is a rich sequence of Bronze Age, Iron Age and Roman occupation indicated by finds and features such as the Ringlemere gold cup=WHERE= and the Roman villas of the Darent valley.[1]

The modern name of Kent is derived from the Brythonic=WHAT= word Cantus meaning a rim or border, being applied as a name to the eastern part of the current county area, and meaning border land or coastal district. Julius Caesar described it as Cantium, home of the Cantiaci in 51 BC.[2]

The extreme west of the modern county was occupied by other Iron Age tribes; the Regnenses and possibly=PRECISION= another ethnic group occupying The Weald = AND EAST KENT=. East Kent became one =PRECISION=of the kingdoms of the Jutes during the 5th century[3] and the area was later known as Cantia=REPETION= from about 730 and Cent in 835. The early mediaeval inhabitants of the county were known as the Cantwara or Kent people, whose capital was Canterbury.[4]

Canterbury is the religious centre of the Anglican faith, and see of St Augustine of Canterbury.=FACT NOT HISTORY= Augustine is traditionally credited with bringing Christianity to the county=AND WHAT IS THE TRUTH= and thus to England in 597.[5] Rochester is another of Kent's religious centres,=WHAT ARE THE REST= the see being founded in 604.[6]

=SUBSID=Following the invasion of Britain by William of Normandy the people of Kent adopted the motto Invicta meaning undefeated and claiming that they had frightened the Normans out of the county. Although, in reality the Normans were only in Kent en route to London. Once London was reached, the Normans ignored most of East Kent =RAMBLE= due to attacks by peasants. As a result,=POV= Kent became a semi-autonomous County Palatine under William's half-brother Odo of Bayeux, with the special powers otherwise reserved for counties bordering Wales and Scotland.[7]

=SUBSID= During the medieval and early modern period, Kent=SH= produced several of England's most notable rebellions. Kent provided the main force, led by Wat Tyler, for the Peasants' Revolt of 1381,[8] as well as producing Jack Cade's Kent rebellion of 1450, and Wyatt's Rebellion of 1553 against Queen Mary I.[9]

Canterbury became a great pilgrimage site=IT WAS BEFORE= following the martyrdom of Thomas Becket,[10]=RAMBLE= who was eventually canonised in 1246.[11] Canterbury's religious role gave rise to Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, a key development in the rise of the written English language and ostensibly set in the countryside of Kent. Rochester had its own martyr, William of Perth, and in 1256 Lawrence, Bishop of Rochester travelled to Rome to obtain Williams canonisation.[11]

The Royal Navy first used the River Medway in 1547 when a storehouse was rented on 'Jyllingham Water'. By the reign of Elizabeth I (1558–1603) a small dockyard had been established at Chatham. By 1618, storehouses, a ropewalk, a drydock and houses for officials had been built downstream from Chatham.[12]

By the 17th century, tensions between Britain and the continental powers of the Netherlands and France led to increasing military build-up in the county. Forts were built all along the coast following a raid by the Dutch navy on the shipyards of the Medway towns in 1667.[13]

The 18th Century was dominated with wars with France, and the Medway became the prime position to base a fleet that would act along the Dutch and French coasts. When the theatre of operation moved to the Atlantic, these roles were assumed by Portsmouth and Plymouth, and Chatham concentrated on shipbuilding and ship repair. Many of the Georgian naval buildings are still extant.=INCLUDE HERE BIT ON ECONOMIC IMPORTANCE IN KICK STARTING OTHER INUSTRIES= In peacetime the work force at Chatham Dockyard was reduced to a quarter of its wartime roll.[12] As an indication of the area's military importance, the first Ordnance Survey map ever drawn was the one-inch map of Kent, published in 1801.[14]

Chatham Dockyard built over 400 naval ships, including HMS Victory in the age of ship-of-the-line,=CONJ= ironclads such as HMS Africa, and 57 submarines. During World War II, Chatham refitted 1360 warships such as HMS Ajax.[12] Charles Dickens' father worked in the Dockyard, leading to Chatham, Rochester and the Cliffe marshes featuring in many of his books=NEEDS TO BE BEFORE SUBMARINES=.[15]

In the early 1800s, smugglers were very active on the =PRECISION= Kent coastline. Gangs such as The Aldington Gang brought spirits, tobacco and salt to Kent, and took goods such as wool across to France.[16]

During World War II, much of the Battle of Britain was fought in the skies over the county. Between June 1944 and March 1945, over 10,000 V1 flying bombs, known as Doodlebugs, were fired on London from bases in Northern France. Many were destroyed by aircraft, anti-aircraft guns or barrage balloons, but around 2,500 fell on the capital and =PRECISION=almost the same number fell in Kent. These areas became known as Doodlebug Alley.[17]

The county emblem of Kent

=NEED TO MENTON PRE 1830 EAST KENT AND WEST KENT- CANTERBURY AND MAIDSTONE= Kent's borders have changed several times over the years. In 1881, the County of London was created and the townships of Deptford, Greenwich, Woolwich, Lee, Eltham, Charlton, Kidbrooke and Lewisham were transferred out of Kent. Similarly, in 1965, the London Borough of Bromley and the London Borough of Bexley were created from nine towns formerly in Kent.[18]

In 1998, Rochester, Chatham, Gillingham and Rainham left the administrative county of Kent to form the Unitary Authority of Medway. They have however remained in the ceremonial county of Kent.[19] During this local government reorganisation, Rochester lost its official city status through an administrative oversight, but attempts to regain it are now being made.[20]

Man of Kent or Kentish Man?

• =NOT A SUBSECTION OF HISTORY- PUT IT IN HEAD=

Kent is traditionally divided into West Kent and East Kent by approximately the River Medway. This division into east and west is reflected in the terms 'Men of Kent' for residents east of the Medway and 'Kentish Men' for those to the west. The female equivalents are 'Maid of Kent' and 'Kentish Maid'.[21]

Physical geography

Main article: Geography of Kent

File:KentGeology.JPG

Geological map of southeast England

Kent is the southeastern=USAGE= most county in England. It is bounded on the north by the River Thames and the North Sea, and on the south by the Straits of Dover and the English Channel. The continent of Europe is a mere=POV= 21 miles (34 km) across the Strait.[22]

The major geographical features of the county are determined by a series of ridges and valleys running east–west across the county. These are the results of weathering to the Wealden dome, a dome across Kent and Sussex created by Alpine movements 10–20 million years ago. The dome was formed of an upper layer of chalk above subsequent layers of upper greensand, upper clay, lower greensand, lower clay and red sandstone. The ridges and valleys formed due to exposed clay eroding at a faster rate than exposed chalk, greensand or red sandstone.

Sevenoaks, Maidstone, Ashford and Folkestone are built on greensand,[23] while Tonbridge and Tunbridge Wells are built on red sandstone.[24] Dartford, Gravesend, the Medway towns, Sittingbourne, Faversham, Canterbury, Deal and Dover are built on chalk.[23][24] The easterly section of the Wealden dome has been eroded away by the sea, and cliffs such as the white cliffs of Dover are present where a chalk ridge known as the North Downs meets the coast. From Dover to Westerham is the Kent Downs Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.[25]= AND THE WEALD=

• =I HAVE A GEOLOGICAL DIAGRAM THAT WAS REMOVED FROM HERE SEE COMMONS:CATEGORY NORTH DOWNS=

'The White Cliffs of Dover'

The Wealden dome is a Mesozoic structure lying on a Palaeozoic foundation, which usually creates the right conditions for coal formation. This is found in East Kent roughly between Deal, Canterbury and Dover. The coal measures within the Westphalian Sandstone are deep (below 244 m – 396 m) and subject to flooding. They occur in two major troughs, which extend under the English Channel =SH= =PRECISION= where similar coalfields are sited.[26]

Seismic activity has occasionally been recorded in Kent, though the epicentre is offshore. In 1382 and 1580 there were two earthquakes exceeding 6.0 on the Richter Scale. In 1776, 1950 and 28 April 2007 there were earthquakes of around 4.3. The 2007 earthquake caused physical damage in Folkestone.[27]

Southeast England viewed from a NASA satellite September 2005

=WHAT USE IS THIS-WHAT DOES IT SHOW=

The coastline of Kent is continually changing, due to uplift and tidal erosion. Until about 960, the Isle of Thanet was an island, formed around a deposit of chalk. The channels silted up with alluvium. Similarly Romney Marsh and Dungeness have been formed by accumulation of alluvium.[24]

Kent's principal river, the River Medway, rises near Edenbridge =PRECISION= and flows some 25 miles (40 km) eastwards to a point near Maidstone when it turns north. Here it breaks through the North Downs at Rochester before joining the River Thames as its final tributary near Sheerness.[28] The river is tidal as far as Allington lock, =PRECISION= SEE YALDING= but in earlier times cargo-carrying vessels reached as far upstream as Tonbridge.[28] The Medway has captured the head waters of other rivers such as the River Darent. There are other rivers in Kent, most notably the River Stour in the east.

Flora and fauna

The wide range of habitats in the area gives the county a rich variety of Kent’s plant and animal species. These habitats are the consequence of a combination of factors including climate, geology, relief and land use.

Kent Wildlife Trust=+OTHERS RSPB PLANTLIFE= manages the Local Wildlife Sites system in Kent, and manages over 60 wildlife reserves over the county of Kent.[29] Kent houses a significant number of internationally important sites,=THIS IS UNLOCALISED PADDING THAT COULD BE PASTED ANYWHWERE LIKE SALE OR SUNDERLAND= including Special Protection Areas, Ramsar Wetlands, Special Areas of Conservation, Sites of Special Scientific Interest, National Nature Reserves, Environmentally Sensitive Areas, Local Wildlife Sites, Roadside Nature Reserves and Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty.[29]

Government

Kent County Council and its 12 district councils administer the majority of the county (3352 km²), while the unitary authority Medway Council administers the more densely populated remainder (192km²). Together they have around 300 town and parish councils. Kent County Council's headquarters are in Maidstone,[30] while Medway's offices are in Strood and Gillingham.

=SUBSID=As of the 2005 county council elections, Kent County Council was controlled by the Conservative Party;[31] 57 of the Council's 84 seats were held by the Conservatives, 21 by the Labour Party, six by the Liberal Democrats and one by an Independent.[32] As of the 2007 local elections, all of Kent's district councils were controlled by the Conservatives except for Ashford Borough Council, which was in no overall control.[33] Medway Council was controlled by the Conservatives; 33 of the Council's 55 seats were held by the Conservatives, 13 by the Labour Party, eight by the Liberal Democrats and one by an Independent.[34]

At national level, Kent is represented in Parliament by seventeen MPs, ten of whom are Conservative and seven are Labour. Kent is in the European Parliament constituency of South East England, which elects ten Members of the European Parliament.[35]=MEDWAY SPLIT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN=

Economy

=SUSID=As of the 2001 UK census,[36] the economic activity of residents in the Kent, including Medway, was 41.1% in full-time employment, 12.4% in part-time employment, 9.1% self-employed, 2.9% unemployed, 2.3% students with jobs, 3.7% students without jobs, 12.3% retired, 7.3% looking after home or family, 4.3% permanently sick or disabled and 2.7% economically inactive for other reasons. 16% of the county's residents aged 16–74 had a higher education qualification or the equivalent, compared to 20% nationwide.[36]

The average hours worked a week by residents of Kent in employment were 43.1 for males and 30.9 for females. Their industry of employment was 17.3% retail, 12.4% manufacturing, 11.8% real estate, 10.3% health and social work, 8.9% construction, 8.2% transport and communications, 7.9% education, 6.0% public administration and defence, 5.6% finance, 4.8% other community and personal service activities, 4.1% hotels and restaurants, 1.6% agriculture, 0.8% energy and water supply, 0.2% mining and 0.1% private households. =SUBSID=Compared to figures for the whole of England, Kent had a relatively high number of workers in construction and transport/communications, and had a relatively low number of workers in manufacturing.

The following chart shows the trend of the economic indicator gross value added (GVA) with figures in millions of British Pounds Sterling.[37]

The district of Thanet has been regarded =IS IT NO LONGER= as one of the most disadvantaged areas in the southeast of England,[38] whilst Kent's ports, Dover, Folkestone, Ramsgate and the Channel Tunnel, provide a lot of income to the county, and the two motorways provide links with the European continent and the remainder of the Great Britain.

Industries

• =INTERNAL CONSISTENCY=

North Kent is heavily industrialised with cement making at Northfleet and Cuxton, brickmaking at Sittingbourne, shipbuilding on the Medway and Swale, engineering and aircraft design and construction at Rochester, chemicals and papermaking at Dartford, and oil refining at Grain.[18] There are two nuclear power stations at Dungeness, although the older one (built in 1965) was closed at the very end of 2006.[37]

Converted oast houses at Frittenden.

Kent is sometimes known as the Garden of England because of its agricultural influence, extensive =REPETITION= orchards and hop-gardens. Distinctive hop-drying buildings called oast houses are common in the countryside, although many have been converted into dwellings. Nearer London, market gardens also flourish.

Cement-making, paper-making, and coal-mining were important industries in Kent during the 19th and 20th century. Cement came to the fore in the 19th century when massive building projects were being undertaken=PRECISION=TIE TO MILITARY EXPENDITURE AT CHATHAM AND CIVIL EXPANSION IN LONDON=. The ready supply of chalk available, and huge pits between Stone and Gravesend bear testament to that industry. There were also other workings around Burham on the tidal Medway.[39]

Kent's original paper mills stood on streams like the River Darent, tributaries of the River Medway, and on the River Stour. Two 18th-century mills were on the River Len and at Tovil on the River Loose. In the late 19th century huge modern mills were built at Dartford and Northfleet on the River Thames; and at Kemsley on The Swale.

From about 1900, several coal pits operated in East Kent. The East Kent coalfield was mined during the 20th century at several collieries,[40] including Chislet, Tilmanstone, Betteshanger and the Snowdown Colliery which ran between 1908 and 1986.[41]

In medieval times, the Weald was of national importance for its iron industry and cloth-making.=TO SEC TOP=

Transport

Main article: Transport in Kent

Roads

The M2 and the Channel Tunnel rail-link crossing the Medway Valley, south of Rochester.

With the Roman invasion, a road network was constructed to contact London to the Channel Ports of Dover, Lympne and Richborough. The London–Dover road was Watling Street. These road are now=SH= approximately the A2, B2068, A257, and the A28. The A2 runs through Dartford (A207), Gravesend, Rochester, Canterbury and Dover. The A20 through Eltham, Wrotham, Maidstone, Charing, Ashford. Hythe, Folkestone and Dover. The A21 through Bromley, Sevenoaks, Tonbridge, Tunbridge Wells and on to Hastings in East Sussex.[18] In 1960s, two motorways were built; the M2 from Medway to Faversham, and the M20 from Swanley to Folkestone. Part of the M25 runs through Kent, from Westerham to the Kent and Essex tunnel at Dartford. The Dartford tunnel has been joined by the Queen Elizabeth II Bridge, allowing four lanes in each direction.=AND THE M26=

Water

The medieval Cinque Ports of Sandwich, Dover, Hythe, Romney and Hasting, and later Rye and Winchelsea have now silted up with the exception of Dover=RAMBLE=, which is now a busy roll-on/roll-off ferry port. Ramsgate is a container port. The Medway Estuary has been an important port and naval base for 500 years. The River Medway is tidal up to Allington and navigable up to Tonbridge.=DATES NEEDED= There are two canals =IN=on Kent, the Royal Miliary Canal between Hythe and Rye, which is still extant, and the Thames and Medway Canal between Strood and Gravesend. Built in 1824, it was bought up by the railways in 1846 and=PARTALLY= backfilled.[18]

Railways

File:34085 501 Squadron Wandsworth Road June 1959.jpg

ex-SR Battle of Britain Class 34085 501 Squadron with the Golden Arrow (June 1959)

The earliest locomotive driven, passenger carrying railway in Britain was the Canterbury and Whitstable Railway which opened in 1830.[42] This and the London and Greenwich Railway later merged into South Eastern Railways =RAMBLE=(SER), and connected Kent's coast ports with the capital.[43] By the 1850s, SER's networks soon expanded to =NO SUCH TOWN= Medway, Ashford, Ramsgate, Canterbury and Tunbridge Wells. SER's major London termini were London Bridge, Charing Cross and Cannon Street. Kent also had a second major railway, the London, Chatham and Dover Railway (LCDR). Starting out as the East Kent Railway in 1858, it linked the northeast Kent coast with London terminals at Victoria and Blackfriars.

The two companies merged in 1899, forming the South Eastern and Chatham Railway (SECR). In the aftermath of World War One, the government's Railways Act 1921 grouped railway companies together; the SECR joined neighbouring LBSCR and LSWR to form the Southern Railway.[43] Britain's railways were nationalised in 1948, forming British Rail. The railways were privatised again in 1996 and most Kent passenger services became run by Connex South Eastern.[44] Connex has since been replaced by Southeastern.[45]

A Eurostar train at km 48 on the Channel Tunnel Rail Link, near Strood

The Channel Tunnel was completed in the 1990s and was connected by a high speed link to London Waterloo via Ashford International. In late 2007, the London terminus will move from Waterloo to St Pancras and an extra station, Ebbsfleet International, will open between Dartford and Gravesend in Kent.[46]

Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Railway

In addition to the "mainline" railways there are several light, heritage and industrial railways in Kent. There are three heritage, standard gauge railways; Spa Valley Railway near Tunbridge Wells on the old Tunbridge Wells West branch, East Kent Railway on the old East Kent coalfield area and the Kent and East Sussex Railway on the Weald around Tenterden. In addition there is the 15 inch gauge, tourist oriented Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Railway on the southeast Kent coast along the Dungeness peninsular and the 2ft 6in, ex industrial Sittingbourne & Kemsley Light Railway.

Air

• =pov= =IF RYANAIR DOESN'T FLY THERE IT IS A AIRFIELD OR AN ASPIRATION- KENT IS POORLY SERVED BEING 2 HOURS FROM HEATHROW AND LUTON (FROM STROOD) AND VIGOROUS FOUGHT THE SILLY (pov)PROPOSAL AT CLIFFE

Kent has London Biggin Hill Airport, Kent International Airport at Manston and London Ashford Airport at Lydd. A limited number of charter flights and private jets use London Ashford Airport[47] and London Biggin Hill Airport,[48] while Kent International Airport =VERB= sees charters and air freight.[49] However, most passengers across the South East use the larger Heathrow, Gatwick, Stanstead and Luton airports.

Education

• =HERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS AS THE PRINCIPAL CAUSE OF UNDERACHIEVEMENT IN KENT SCHOOLS IS THE FACT THAT 77% OF STUDENT GO TO SECONDARY MODERNS= BUT MENTION THAT AND YOU HAVE A FIRESTORM FROM ENTRENCHED INTERESTS

See also: List of schools in Kent

=WHICH IS INCOMPLETE=

The county has three universities; Canterbury Christ Church University, University of Kent with campuses in Canterbury and Medway, and University of Greenwich with sites at Woolwich, Eltham and Medway. Whereas much of the UK adopted a comprehensive education system in the 1970s, Kent County Council and Medway Unitary Authority are among around 15[50] local authorities still providing wholly selective education through the eleven-plus, High Schools and Grammar Schools. Together, the two Kent authorities have 38 of the 164 Grammar Schools remaining in the UK.[51]

KCC has the largest education department of any local authority in the UK,[52] providing school places for over 289,000 pupils.

From the 2005-06 school year, KCC and Medway introduced the standardised school year, based on six terms, as recommended by the Local Government Association following its 2000 report, "The Rhythms of Schooling",=REPETITIVE= and its key recommendation that the six-term pattern would better meet the learning needs of children in the 21st century.[53]

Between September 2003 and August 2004, 70% of pupils in the Kent authority achieved Key Stage 2 Level 4 in mathematics, compared to 74% of pupils in England as a whole. 74% of pupils achieved Key Stage 2 Level 4 in English, compared to 78% of pupils nationally. 56% of pupils achieved five or more GCSE A*–C grades or the equivalent, compared to 54% nationally.[54]

As of the 2001 census, the highest academic qualification attained by residents aged between 16 and 74 in the Kent LEA area was 16.8% a higher education qualification or the equivalent, 8.0% two or more A-levels or the equivalent, 21.0% five or more GCSE grades A*–C or the equivalent, and 18.2% one or more GCSEs passes or the equivalent. 28.3% had no qualifications and 7.7% had a qualification of an unknown level.[55]

CULTURE

• =THIS SECTION IS MISSING= NEEDS SOME DICKENS, JAMES, GOLDING, TURNER, MORRIS, SPENCERLEY, PRATT ETC=

Kent - railways

Hi, No problem, I just wondered why you removed the RH&DR photo from this section. Was there something wrong with it? Regards, Lynbarn 22:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Margate F.C.

Thanks for the kind words! ChrisTheDude 07:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Shaw and Crompton

Thank you for your kind contributions and support with the Shaw and Crompton article. It's been a pet project of mine for some time (though I discourage personal ownership of course!).

I'd be surprised if the article reaches FA status, though undoubtedly the feedback during the nomination will be helpful none-the-less. Hope all is well, Jhamez84 22:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Eastbourne GA nomination

Thank you for taking the time to look at the Eastbourne article, which is currently being worked on to address the issues you raised. You tagged the article as on hold with a latest deadline of technically Friday evening. As this is my first active nomination so I am not too sure of the procedure.

The bulk of the remaining work is finding citations for various statements. I estimate we will probably get half of the statements cited by Friday. The remainder will necessitate a visit to the local library, but I doubt anyone will get a chance before next Saturday, after the deadline

My question is what do we do? Is the deadline strict or can we hold out for a couple more days? Will the missing ones fail us, even though they should follow within a couple of days. Should we just remove the uncited statements? This would lose chunks of the article, although we know the statements are correct and eventually citable. Any advise please. MortimerCat 23:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the extension. We have addressed all the issues you raised, and are ready for the completion of your review. MortimerCat 13:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Coral Springs, Florida GA assessment

I have begun to address the issues you cited in your assessment, but I do have a quibble with the last one. You suggest converting the list of famous natives to prose form. Can you give me an example of where this has been done? I took a look at about 10 cities in the list of good articles (all North American) and noted that most of had an external list (usually linked in "See Also", or had a list similar to what is in place here. I'd prefer not to eliminate the list entirely, but with only eight names, a separate list would not survive an AfD (it would likely get merged back into the article). None of them had a listing in prose form as you have suggested. I know that prose is generally preferred over lists, but there are times when a list is appropriate, and this might be one of those times. Examples of GA cities with similar lists in the main article include Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, Duluth, Minnesota, Grand Forks, North Dakota and Newark, New Jersey, (which should really be turned into an external list). Any thoughts on this? Horologium t-c 14:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, two of us have made the changes you suggested. Take a look at the new and improved article. Horologium t-c

Thanks for your assistance; the article does look better! Horologium t-c 22:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Vanadanite

Hi

I see you have already noticed that I started a GA review on your suggestion Vanadanite. I placed it on hold so a number of minor things could be enhanced. This is my first GA review, so you may wish to review my review! GB 07:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks as if most issues are addressed! 1.2 1.4 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 3.1 all covered. Still there is nothing about mines or limited amount on 'roasting'.

'Heating of vanadium ore or residues from other processes with salt NaCl or sodium carbonate Na2CO3 at about 850°C gives sodium vanadate NaVO3. This is dissolved in water and acidified to give a red solid which in turn is melted to form a crude form of vanadium pentoxide V2O5. Reduction of vanadium pentoxide with calcium gives pure vanadium. ' -- is found in the vanadium article.

In Vanadium there is this:

'Vanadium was originally discovered by Andrés Manuel del Río (a Spanish-born Mexican mineralogist) in Mexico City, in 1801. He called it "brown lead" (now named vanadinite).' — if this is really talking about vanadinite then this should be in this article. It seems a bit inconsistent with the 1838 date in Vanadinite. GB 21:32, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Aston Villa F.C. dates and dashes

In several goes I have put the – in the article and I have sorted out the dates as requested. I have not put the en dash into the wikilinks as it would disrupt the link. Any other comments then please let me know, thanks. Woodym555 21:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Coral Springs, Florida

Hi, Epbr123. I would like to ask if you could give an unofficial review on CS, aiming for an A status(I am trying to learn my Wikipedia ABCs :-) ). I added some content and master editor Horologium gave a it a good edit. Adding more content is a bit risky, because there is not much to add and the article can become a fluff-filled ad. Please let me know if it is possible. Thanks in advance! --Legionarius 22:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

		Thank you for your support and comments at my RfA
		Hi Epbr123, It still amazes me that otherwise "anonymous" editors take the time to place !votes and comments on RfAs. Whilst I would have normally thanked you at the time of you leaving your message, the importance of my not appearing to be canvassing prevented me from so doing. Now that everything has progressed successfully I can finally thank you. I intend to uphold a style of good adminship and will welcome your further comments at any time in the future, even if they are in the form of admonishment. I will be happy to help as an admin wherever and whenever I can --VS ^talk 23:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Providence, Rhode Island FAC

Hi. You opposed FA status for this article citing problems with publishing dates of web sources being incorrect. I would gladly fix these, but I don't know to which you refer. Thanks.--Loodog 02:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

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HI Epbr123

I see you have done quite a few GA reviews. I have passed the Vanadinite, you probably thought it deserved to be passed too, but how did I go with the correct GA procedure? GB 00:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

• Your review was excellent. The article clearly didn't pass the "broad in coverage" criteria at first. I'm glad it was reviewed by someone with knowledge of the subject. Thanks for the further recommendations; it seems there's still quite a lot left to do. Epbr123 00:25, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

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East Carolina University

Hello, because of your lengthy past for helping articles achieve GA and FA status, I am asking if you could give East Carolina University a peer-review. I want to add the article to the Good article candidates list. Thank you, PGPirate

• Thank you for the review of East Carolina University. When you wrote "There shouldn't really be bold text or external links within the prose." are you referring to when text such as East Carolina Teachers Training School is bolded? Should it be italized instead? Also with the external links, is a wiki red-link better? Thanks - PGPirate
• Thank you again. Minus adding more information in the administration section, do you see anything else that would keep this article from reaching GA status? Also, what could I add into the Administration section? Thanks, PGPirate

GA medal of merit

Thanks for the award. Hopefully your "reviewer of the week" campaign will get more people to contribute, this backlog is getting too long. I was thrilled to turn to my watchlist to see your award and also one of my GACs get passed as well. Anyway, thank you again and keep up the good work. --Nehrams2020 20:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Allow me to introduce myself

Having read some of your comments on the Sale talk page, I'm a little concerned with your approach to editing, using talk pages, and using edit summaries - particularly with regards to WP:OWN.

Your message to me seems to suggest that I'm an inept or sub-standard contributor and that the contributor who you favour (User:Tony1) is somehow better than I. Well, let me tell you that I set up the Greater Manchester WikiProject, wrote most of the UK and England articles as well as Greater Manchester, Historic counties of England, Shaw and Crompton formulated the UK place infoboxes, drew all the county maps you use to point to the settlements, co-wrote the UK settlement guidelines and have tens of thousands upon thousands of edits to my former account about UK geography.

With the attitude you have, taken against me and a number of other editors I notice, you categorically will not acheive FA standard with that article. Not a chance. There are too many serious contextual problems.

You had a sub-section called "Geography" under the "Geography and administration" title which was totally redundant. You had material about Greater Manchester on the Sale article which was unfocussed (keep the article on topic - don't go into topics about the Earth or wider geography). You have specific dates in the lead about the Bridgewater Canal that even the Bridgewater Canal doesn't; the second paragraph in the lead is not of a professional standard of encyclopedic writing (e.g. "many residents still commute to other areas of Greater Manchester" - do they? how many? why? is it relevant? just Greater Manchester?; " Sale dates back probably before the Norman invasion" - in what way? probably? invasion is a POV term.) Why have stuff about the climate and geology of Greater Manchester on Sale? No other serious encyclopedia would do this.

User:Malleus Fatuarum (Eric) raises some very valid points about the context of some statements; I'm sure he has the article's best interests at heart and I'd certainly like to see you engage with some of his ideas.

And for the record, Sale is not a city, and that user whom you cite as a top reviewer is in my view forcing US city guidelines upon British towns which in the past has been turned down by editors of Sheffield (an FA city). This edit is grammatically strange, and inconsistent with much of the UK... and, is hardly an advanced or incredibly scholarly edit to make by anyone or any standards.

I'm not one to grumble, but when I find someone experienced and helpful, and aiding in improving articles, I don't revert them and send them messages about how other users are better than them. I must urge you to allow other users to contribute to articles and to work to a compromise if a user raises concerns. Jza84 01:08, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• You reverted User:Tony1's edit, so take it up with him. To address your other points, the subsection headings are part of the Wikiproject Ukgeography guidelines; I opposed the headings but User:Malleus Fatuarum insisted on using them. All city articles have to include a brief mention the geography and climate, even if its similar to nearby areas. If you had read the article, you will know why the word "probably" is needed. I used the word "city" because its easier than writing city, town, village, hamlet, nighbourhood, district, ward, constituency or settlement. "many residents still commute to other areas of Greater Manchester" is relevant as Sale used to be mainly a commuter town. Also, User:Tony1 is not American. I can understand why you are upset, but for your own sake, please try to learn from more experienced editors rather than attacking them. Epbr123 08:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

No. You reverted my quality edits, so I'm taking it up with you. You've not addressed any of the issues in hand. You're taking sole ownership of the article, not working with editors, and compromising the quality of that article to chase FA when it is not ready. Sale is not a city, and you're using citation for geography and geology for Greater Manchester (i.e. central Manchester) not Sale.

There is no such heading in the UK geog guidelines - you're making sweeping falsifications.

For the record, I'm not attacking anyone (that statement itself is a personal attack), and I am a far more experience editor than both User:Tony1 and yourself, and have made much bigger a contribution to Wikipedia. I have to say I very much share Erics concerns here. Jza84 11:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm very frightened about your recent contributions against me. You're bullying me, saying I'm an unuseful editor and following my edits. I think I need assistance if you are going to continue persecuting me when all I want to do is improve articles. Please read WP:CIVIL. Jza84 15:08, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm just trying to keep the article I nominated for FA in good shape. BTW its regarded as incivil to refer people to WP:CIVIL. Epbr123 15:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

"... compromising the quality of that article to chase FA when it is not ready...". That sums up perfectly my objections to what's been happening to the Sale, Greater Manchester article. It had just regained GA status, it wasn't ready for an FA nomination, and the edits being made were largely being made for all the wrong reasons, to squirm through the FA criteria, not to improve the article. I also have felt persecuted by Epbr123, when like you, Jza84, all I've tried to do is to improve articles. --Malleus Fatuarum 00:07, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

And just to wrap this up, I'd make a very similar complaint against Epbr123 for nominating the Stretford article for GA status. It wasn't ready for a GA review, although it may perhaps be now. --Malleus Fatuarum 00:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

"it wasn't ready for an FA nomination", "to squirm through the FA criteria" - could you make your personal attacks a little more consistant, please? They're a bit hard to counter otherwise. You first said the article isn't good enough for FA; you then said the article is good enough but you don't value the FA criteria! I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to defend the article or the FA process. Thanks. Epbr123 09:12, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Demographics

Try this. I got some UK census data from here (which lists Sale independently) and wrote what I would like to see in a Demographics section. I got rid of the sequential lists that languished onto 0.3%...etc. and stuck with the dominant statitistic and provided a more complete profile, with households, marriage status, etc. All the info there is real (from the census data) and you can verify it but you are on your own for referencing (maybe it could be referenced to the general UK census?) the spreadsheets examples: education (btw I don't know what "qualifications" mean), marital status, households, etc. Trafford is listed here and specifically age, etc. --maclean 09:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

In use

Hello, would you be kind enough just to hang back with the edits to Shaw and Crompton - there is a tag in place. You're doing some good work, but it's likely to be editted out as part of a wider edit.

I'm not here for ideological debates and edit wars, I think you've done some great work, but you seem to be taking this very personally. I extend this opportunity for us to work together here. Jza84 15:29, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• I would be very happy to work with you. Epbr123 15:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I've left a reply at Talk:Shaw and Crompton - I think I make a good case for two much needed articles here. Also, looking at some comments on the FA nominations, it seems to me that we need very localised maps to aid in writing about the "built environment", and how the towns are contructed and centred - I may be able to produce something for both Sale and S&C. Jza84 21:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Brazil page length

Hello again.

We were discussing the length of Brazil’s page but you haven’t replied my last post so I’m reposting it here.

You said:

• Article length isn't part of the “good article” criteria. There has to be a limit to article size for the sake of people with slow computers. Due to "History of Brazil", "Geography of Brazil", "Climate of Brazil" etc. there's no need for the article to be this long. It should be a summary of those sub-articles. Epbr123 16:50, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

My reply was:

• Although it’s possible to reduce the article size, you are proposing we remove about 35% of its current contents. That’s not going to be something very easy to carry out. Perhaps it would be interesting if you could actually point out which areas you think have been overdone. I agree there’s still a lot of work we need to do here, but I disagree about this page being too lengthy. All the information currently summarized in the article seems pretty basic to me. Again, I kindly ask you to point out which sections you think should be made shorter or scrapped altogether. Sparks1979 19:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

It would be nice if you could effectively help editors by mentioning which areas of the article you believe should be reviewed with the scope of eliminating text.

Sparks1979 14:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Sale

I've made m edits, including wikilinking to sports that I think people would be interested in knowing more about (5-a-line & bowl). The article served as a good primer on standard UK articles for me. =) moar support! Soulrefrain 00:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Possible new guidelines

Following discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements, I've written some possible new guidelines based on what's avaliable at WP:CITIES - I think they're a great improvement, but would like your input and blessing, and a confirmation I've not overlooked anything.

The guidelines I'm proposing at avaliable to view at my sandbox, though if you could pass comment here rather than directly to me, (just so everyone can see for the future) that would be great. Hope all is well, Jza84 10:45, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for the Barnstar. I have made some mistakes in my copy-edit, it wasn't perfect (centre=centre), but thank you for being generous and giving the Barnstar anyway. :D Erythromycin 15:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Sale

I've been a little pushed for time over the past few days. I'll try and have a look through it on Monday. Yomangani^talk 22:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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Sale, Greater Manchester

Thank you for the comment you left for me on my Talk page. When I read the article, I thought the language could better reflect the obvious interest of the topic. Now that it's sunk in that you're trying for FA status, I think I'll continue to spend time on the language, and I'd certainly be happy to give you more in the way of constructive criticism about content if you'd like. Maybe you can help me out with at least one question, though (and I may have others soon!): where do I find the WP page on "inappropriate shorthand"?

I hate to say it, but I'm going to be pretty much unavailable for the next few days. I'll try to get back to you and the article on July 11. Take care, and thanks again--esp. for your help! Scrawlspacer 20:43, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Sheerness

I did my limited copy editing. You want to look at the following: 'mains water was installed' is a English phrase that few Americans might understand. This might render in the US as 'water mains were installed' meaning 'large water pipes were installed'. Maybe some rewording would satisfy both dialects. Also, I noticed in the transportation section is that rail lines to the town are discussed, but the town is listed as being on an island. Some discussion of railroad bridges might be in order if that is how the railways get to the town. And is there water transport to the island? Hope this helps. Hmains 19:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd be happy to proofread the article. Probably starting now, if I'm not distracted... Quendus 19:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Just a line to say thanks for your work on the improvement of WP:UKCITIES! Together I think we've created something really great here. Hope you're happy with me applying this to a few of our articles??

Let me know if you'd like my input on any of your work, Jza84 23:26, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar

Thank you for the barnstar. Let me know any time you need help with copy editing. Jehochman ^Talk 01:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Sheerness FAC

Sure, I'd be happy to help! I've been ramping up my copyediting activities lately, especially on FACs and FARs, because I hate it when articles fail FAC solely because of copyediting issues. szyslak 07:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll also be taking a look at the Sheerness FAC... thanks for asking me - always like to be involved in anything grammar-related  :) --Christian B 15:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Having being asked for anymore ways to improve, the lead and the rest of the article could be expanded. However, the article is well-done, I know copy-editing is very important. Showmanship is the key 16:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello. Per your request, I will copyedit Sheerness. I've just given it a first read and posted some general suggestions for improvement on its talk page; will get to the actual copyedit soon. Maralia 19:05, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Kent

I'd be happy to look at the Kent article. Dureo 14:38, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

9th July Second edit- job well done.ClemRutter 21:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

First edit- infobox- what is your reasoning for removing the MPs ( they are there in the Dorset FA) and the infobox politics section is wrong. Kent is not run by K.C.C. but Medway Council and K.C.C.- so more work needed there.ClemRutter 21:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• Disagree. I think Dorset is a stronger argument than one opinion. As I have said- Kent is bigger than Luxembourg- so Kent naturally has more MPs- its not our fault! I think you should restore. ClemRutter 23:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Your growing Grammar and layout checklist is really useful.ClemRutter 21:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Have gone over and made some slight changes, let me know if anything glares at you. Dureo 03:31, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

GAC backlog

I asked Nehrams2020 to help start another GAC backlog elimination drive. Nehrams2020 asked me to invite you to co-ordinate the drive as well. Basically it's very similar to last time, only a few things different than before. First, the drive has a duration of a month. Second, more awards to be handed out. Nehrams2020 will be doing the advertising, while I'll be figuring out a good scale for different awards and page creation. Feel free to dive in and help either one, or do something that we forgot to do. OhanaUnited^Talk page 19:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Be bold, feel free to add the explanation into the drive's page. I'm not good at explaining instructions :/ OhanaUnited^Talk page 10:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

It started! Run for your life! (just joking...) OhanaUnited^Talk page 04:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Compass tables

Hi, just want to say thanks for your hard work of late, again particularly the continued refinements on the WP:UKCITIES guidelines which I think are set to be very, very helpful for a great many articles.

On "Compass tables" - what are your thoughts? Are you a fan or not? I'm coming round to including one on Shaw and Crompton and elsewhere. Jza84 22:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• User:Ddstretch persuaded me to add the compass tables. They're quite useful but they have their limitations and I wouldn't recommend every city article having one. They can be misleading as they don't indicate the distances between the areas, and its difficult to judge whether to include the surrounding villages and districts or just the surrounding towns. Epbr123 22:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Sale, Greater Manchester copy-edit

Hi. I'm sorry to bother you, but as a LoCE member, I just wondered if you would be willing to have a look through the Sale, Greater Manchester article. It is currently a Featured Article Candidate and needs a copy-edit for grammar by someone who hasn't yet seen it. Any other ways to improve the article would also be welcome. Thank you very much, if you can. Epbr123 08:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I looked and the article is fine - it was apparnetly copy-edited by 3 LoCE members last week. Cheers, JenLouise 01:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		What a Brilliant Idea! Cutting 10kb of the Social class in the United States just by modifying the reference mark-up. Thanks for your great work! Signature^brendel 17:51, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

-1 =0?

If 2=1 then you can apply all sorts of mathematics to eventually prove that -1 = 0:

2= 1

so

1 = 0 by subtracting one from each side

and then multiply both sides by -1:

-1 = 0. However, I did not say I was going to prove taht 1= 0 I said 2 = 1. Tourskin 00:58, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Kent FAC

Hi. I'm sorry to bother you, but as a LoCE member, I just wondered if you would be willing to have a look through the Kent article. It is currently a Featured Article Candidate and needs a copy-edit for grammar by someone who hasn't yet seen it. Any other ways to improve the article would also be welcome. Thank you very much, if you can. Epbr123 21:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. I'll take a look at the article tonight (I'm going to work right now), but a quick glance tells me it should pretty much be okay. I'll let you know once I've done some checking up. :) —msikma (user, talk) 06:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Epbr123, Please see my response to you on my talk page. 08:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sheerness FAC

Hi. Thanks for writing and letting me know. I need some help on this FAC. I will do a copyedit. The comments are very much appreciated. And, you're welcome. Greg Jones II 12:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Shaw and Crompton FAC

Sorry, I am working a long day today and will be out of town this weekend so almost certainly won't have time. Good luck with it. --Margareta 14:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

You beat me to it to contact the copyeditors! Thanks ever so much for the support! Jza84 15:13, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for spotting the vandalism warning. I've raised my concerns at the admin noticeboard, as I feel this is becoming a little targetted against me and that article. Jza84 18:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

-Whoops! Sorry Epbr123! Wrong user! My apologies. Jza84 18:26, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

FAC

I will be happy to review the Sheerness article. I will get back to you when I'm done. Politics rule 14:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Like wise. I will do a review of the article. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 18:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sale, Greater Manchester FAC

Hi. I'm sorry to bother you, but as a LoCE member, I just wondered if you would be willing to have a look through the Sale, Greater Manchester article. It is currently a Featured Article Candidate and needs a copy-edit for grammar by someone who hasn't yet seen it. Any other ways to improve the article would also be welcome. Thank you very much, if you can. Epbr123 07:38, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't get to that sooner-- my internet connection was down for a while. Looks like you already got someone. Anyway, I would assume this was an accident, rather than ignorance, since you aren't a n00b, but you posted that message on my userpage, not my talkpage. First of all, that wasn't the place for it, and second of all, I probably wouldn't have seen it if I wasn't working on my page. :) No hard feelings, obviously. Sorry I couldn't get to Sale sooner. justice 16:33, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Kent

I'll take a look at it this weekend. No problem. --rocketrye12^talk/contribs 20:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sheerness

Haven't forgotten about your request. I've posted on the WikiProject grammar talk page, but haven't gotten a reply on the guidelines for copy-editing a GA seeking FA status. Is it possible that you could point me in the correct direction? Abernethyj 02:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Electricity

Hi. My message to you of earlier today may have gone astray. I've been reading Sheerness and suggesting a few minor changes. My electricity was down most of the day, though, and I was off-line. I'll continue with Sheerness tomorrow. Thanks for asking for help. I'm enjoying the article. Finetooth 03:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Shaw and Crompton copyediting

Thanks for asking me to copyedit the Shaw and Crompton article as part of its FAC. I read through it tonight and made mostly minor changes throughout, e.g., comma usage, changing "which" to "that" at times, etc. I'm American, so my knowledge of the British usage of the English language is not perfect—feel free to fix any mistakes I may have made. I personally prefer the Oxford comma, and the first series I saw in the article included it. I thus added that comma to all the other lists in the article. Hope you don't mind! Esrever 06:43, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Copyedit request for Shaw and Crompton

thanks for the request.....i'm still new to wiki and tryin to get a firm grip on the wiki MoS so it might take some time for copyediting the article....but i'll definitely do my best to copyedit it....Gprince007 07:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Sheerness FAC

Thank you very much for contacting me about the Sheerness FAC. Due to real life matters, I'm not sure I'll be able to get to reviewing this article in time for its current candidacy, but please keep me in mind for future requests. Keesiewonder ^talk 10:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you very much for the barnstar for GA reviewing. I like your "Checklist" for articles, by the way. There should be a useful place to post that - it is really quite good. Awadewit | talk 10:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Belarus Constitution FAC

On second thought, I reduced the lead by a sentence, I removed most of the dubious wikilinks and fixed the percentage stuff. However, I have a question about the date linking. Does this extend to the references or just the article text? User:Zscout370 ^(Return Fire) 08:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Your Jackie Chan Fac Review

I think you could help work on this one since you had innitially made suggestions for changes to be made, and it had been done. As for your contest, i think you might want to further clarify as per wiki policy, on why the article hadn't met Fac standards. Surely a proper explaination could be provided for it, as in the article must have infringe some Fac standard and should be corrected, we would like to know what it is so as to make the necessary corrections.--DaliusButkus 07:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Tel Aviv GA

Thanks for the GA review. I have attempted to fix all of the issues you outlined and have made comments where I was unsure. If you could take another look at it now, I would really appreciate it.--Flymeoutofhere 08:27, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I've looked over those points.--Flymeoutofhere 10:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I've cited all the residents.--Flymeoutofhere 12:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Added additional fields to citations where applicable--Flymeoutofhere 19:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the review and pass.--Flymeoutofhere 08:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Mani Madhava Chakyar to GA

Thanks for copy editing the article which s currently a GA nominee..Looking forward your co operation..Thanks Sreekanthv 09:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

SNES FAC

I have addressed the two examples you left, and KieferSkunk (someone unfamiliar with the article) and I have been working on copyediting the rest of the article. I would appreciate it if you could join in with further examples and review the changes made so far to determine if we are doing a good enough job. Thanks! Anomie 19:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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New stubs

Hi Epbr123 - good to see a few new stub articles on villages in Kent, and good to see you put a stub template on them, too. It might be worth you knowing that there are separate geography stub types for each English county now, so you can use {{Kent-geo-stub}} rather than {{UK-geo-stub}} if you want. It'll make it a little easier for editors to find any more new articles you write. Keep up the good work :) Grutness...wha? 00:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

By the Way

Greatly appreciate the copyedit. Best wishes, NSR77 ^T_C 14:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

GA medal

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Sheerness‎ FAC

Hi. I'm sorry to bother you, but as a Wikiproject Grammar member, I just wondered if you would be willing to have a look through the Sheerness‎ article. It is currently a Featured Article Candidate and needs a copy-edit for grammar by someone who hasn't yet seen it. Any other ways to improve the article would also be welcome. Thank you very much, if you can. Epbr123 17:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• Sorry for my late reply... I really had a very bad health problem this past few weeks. Same reason why I was inactive from Wikipedia... Hope you understand. I will be very much likely to do this favor for you... I shall soon send you my assessment. Thanks and good luck!

  Thanks. I hope you're feeling better now. Epbr123 00:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Fort Lauderdale, Florida GA assessment

Okay, I have worked through that enormous list of suggested changes you left at Talk:Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and I have incorporated all of your suggestions. Please take a look at the page now, and let us know if it meets your requirements for GA status. Thank you. Horologium t-c 17:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

1a and redundancy

I like it! Tony 00:31, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Alan Kippax

Thanks for your review of the biog on cricketer Alan Kippax. I have addressed the problems that you raised on the project page. However, I have not altered the hyphens used in the cricket seasons (eg. 1928-29) as I believe that what exists complies with the style guide at WP:Cricket, I quote: "When referring to a cricket season spanning two years, use an hyphen (or an en dash) and the last two digits of the second year as in International cricket in 2005-06 or New Zealand cricket team in Zimbabwe in 2005-06. However, if the years do not begin with the same two digits, write out the full year: 1899-1900." 59.101.198.148 03:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

All changes requested have been made.59.101.198.148 09:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Pipe organ and WP:CRICKET

Hi,

Thanks for your comments on the Pipe organ FAC - it's always useful when a fresh pair of eyes spots things like that.

On a separate note, I have just seen that you rightly edited the guidelines of WP:CRIC regarding year spanning and the endash - do you know what happens when these are used in an article title/section heading? using the endash (2005–06) conflicts with guidelines that say 'don't use &%$"(£&$ etc in section headings (presumably because it makes searching and anchored links really difficult to manage). Should the hyphen therefore be incorrectly used in its place?

–MDCollins (talk) 23:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Moncton GA Review

Hello, thanks for the review. I went through and fixed all (well almost all) the problems you pointed out (the other thing is explained on the talk page). Thanks again!

Stu pendousmat 02:12, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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CBOTB FAC

Thanks for your attention to the Chicago Board of Trade Building. I believe I have met your points of opposition. I would appreciate your reconsideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry. I did not notice your second list. I have a bit more to do.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I have done my best to meet your request. A couple things were not things I can really do and they are so noted. In particular, I do not know how to cite a movie, I can not find someone else's obscure claim and I would appreciate help correcting stubby sections. I think you should be satisfied with my other edits.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 22:54, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Urgent Help for Copy editing Kaziranga National Park in FAC

Kindly help in Copy editing Kaziranga National Park which is currently in FAC. I had put it up in WP:LOCE in April 2007, but still now no one have noticed. I need your urgent help in cpediting the article, as i am not so good in doing it. The article has no other issue but cpedit, i gurantee u that a fine refinement will help a lot. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 06:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

729

Yes; I'm trying to get those numbers people at MOSNUM to disentangle the square metres versus metres squared thing; should it be explicated conceptually and in terms of rendering on WP? I'm interested in your input when, within 24 h, I implement the draft at MOSNUM, and then, in part, at MOS-central. Need feedback before doing the big one at MOS-central (which has been forewarned, all the same). At the FAC in question, I'm not going to back down on 1a; Giano and I maintain something of a truce, and even do good turns for one another on occasion. And there was Raul's unwise statement that appeared not to support the exemplification of defects in a window of prose to demonstrate that the whole thing needs copy-editing. Perhaps I misinterpreted his statement. Pleased that you've weighed in, because the more we have to prod and poke about bad writing, the better. Tony 14:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Kate Bush photo

I notice you put both GFDL and Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 notices on Image:KateBushComicRelief.png, but in the link to the forum the photographer only seems to agree to the GFDL. I'm going to remove the other one pending clarification.--Pharos 17:24, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Question

Do you have any opinions about Rugby, Warwickshire? I've tried to apply WP:UKCITIES, but a "regular" editor of the article believes we should use "organic" (Quote) structures and reverted it.... It's not a revert war, but as you were involved in the construction of the guidelines, and have experience in bringing articles upto scratch I wondered what you made of this. Jza84 23:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Sheerness

Congratulations on the promotion of this article, and thank you for the barnstar. Jehochman ^Talk 18:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

John Mayer FA promotion

I want to thank you for your assistance in bringing the John Mayer article to FA. It means the culmination of almost two years of work for me, and wouldn't have been possible without help from the WP community. Thanks again.--Esprit15d 12:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Kate Bush Get Out Of My House Sample.ogg)

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Peru

Thanks for your comments and suggestions at the Peru FAC. I think most have been addressed now, though I have a doubt, please check the nomination page. Greetings, --Victor12 23:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Postage stamps of Ireland

Just a quick thank you for participating in the Postage stamps of Ireland FAC. Your input was very useful and I have learned a lot from the process. Whether you raised issues, assisted with some cleanup, opposed or supported the article, thanks again for all you do for Wikipedia. ww2censor 15:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Autism fixes

Thanks for your review and comment about Autism. I made fixes along the lines you suggested. Eubulides 16:45, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Restarted FAC

Debate has been restarted at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chicago Board of Trade Building and your voice has not been heard.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 06:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

GAC backlog elimination drive

As we are very close to the end of backlog elimination drive, it's time for us to vertify that every single review follows GA criteria. Now I need to deliver some news to you, I will be on a trans-Pacific flight on August 13 so I will not be able to start vertifying the moment the clock reaches August 13. We also need to organize a way so that we can complete vertification as fast as possible without any overlapping. My suggestion is to place a check mark (i.e.  Done) in front of each article vertified. Any with doubts are marked with  Question: . Does this sound good to you? OhanaUnited^Talk page 16:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Time isn't a big factor. I will leave a big message on the page 3 days prior to the drive's closing. This way everyone will have enough time to submit their updated list. We can work from there. OhanaUnited^Talk page 16:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm back (yay!). Now let's get started on checking reviews. I would say that it's safe to skip reviews by me, you, and Nehrams2020 because we're very familiar with the process. Remember to be bold and delist GAs if the quality of the article needs major improvement. OhanaUnited^Talk page 14:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

On the prose of Jackie Chan (FAC related)

Jackie Chan's article has been copyedited a number of times by several editors now. I've read it several times, and couldn't find any problems. Would you mind read the article once more to check the prose please? Thanks.--Kylohk 00:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Blyth, Northumberland GA review

Hi Epbr123, thanks for the review of Blyth, Northumberland. I've made the fixes you suggested and added a geography section. I've been unable to add any geology info to that section, but will be working on that in future. I think i've got the rest of it covered though. Thanks again. Dbam ^Talk/_{Contributions} 09:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the pass! Dbam ^Talk/_{Contributions} 14:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Blue Bell Hill (village)

Cheers for stubbing that ;) Pickle 18:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:All Saints Church, Waldershare.jpg

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Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 2

Thank you for your support in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Wikipedia project, and I'll try again in a few months! If you ever have any questions or suggestions for me, please don't hesitate to contact me. Best wishes, --Elonka 06:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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Poke. --thedemonhog talk • edits 19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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Question

I noticed you were depopulating Category:Big-bust models and performers, was just wondering why. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 01:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! I hadn't realized that one was up for discussion. Makes sense. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 01:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Isle of Portland FAC

Thanks a lot for finding all those faults with the article. I have fixed them, and have looked at the article carefully to find any more - but sometimes you can become blind to your mistakes. If you do find any more, I will be happy to fix them. If you don't find any more, could you clarify your stance on the FAC? Rossenglish 11:41, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Isabel Ice

Isabel Ice has been speedily deleted, but not as non-notable. It was previously deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Isabel Ice, and the new version was pretty similar, if a bit shorter. Deletion review is definitely the way to go... Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Brazil review

Hello, Brazil article was rewrite, could you review again if meets WP:GA?. Thank you Carlosguitar 00:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Nominated, I hope you become our reviewer again. Thanks. Carlosguitar 22:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Sharday DRV

I'm somewhat worried about this bit from the deleted page: "Sharday comfirms on her Myspace page that she is a former model." Is the plan to use induction to link a person with myspace page to a former nude model? I don't think that would be such a good idea... --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 03:50, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Ordinances of 1311

Thanks for your input on the article's candidate page. I've dealt with your concerns, care to have another look? Lampman 15:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

GAC backlog contest

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AfD nomination of Sharday

Sharday, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Sharday satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sharday (second nomination) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Sharday during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Article Hayley Westenra copyedited

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Award!

File:Interlingual Barnstar.png		The Geography Barnstar
		For your efforts on improving and promoting the towns and cities of the United Kingdom throughout Wikipedia! It is much appreciated! Jza84 21:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I will endeavour to redraw the Kent county infobox map and improve the navigation templates in time for Sheerness's main page slot that you have secured! Well done! Jza84 21:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Kent towns

Template:Kent towns has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Jza84 21:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I've been bold per our discussion and agreement, and I've made some (but not all - yet) changes to Template:Infobox UK place to allow for Isle of Man transclusions. An example is avaliable to view at my sandbox. I've asked for assistance to correct some of the UK display fields.... Onwards and upwards... Jza84 19:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I've pretty much completed the syntax for this change to be possible. I'm just awaiting a map to be calibrated and hoping someone can figure out how to display the Isle of Man Ambulance Service in the infobox.

I've added an infobox to Douglas, Isle of Man - At the time of this sig, there is no map generated, but this will be fixed shortly. Hope it is what you had in mind? Jza84 01:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

UK places

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GA Reviews

Hi Epbr,

I've been enjoying doing some GA reviews, but wanted to ask your advice please. There are some very short articles which are being nominated for GA and I'm not sure how to handle them. These articles include Crowded House awards and Mandela: The Authorised Biography. I guess my initial reaction is that these articles are not substantial enough to be a GA, and do not meet the "breadth of coverage" criterion. But I wanted to check with you please... thanks, Johnfos 07:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

British villages

Hi - it's good to see the work you are putting in to create stubs on so many villages around the UK. I wonder if you could look at a couple of issues in the articles? Firstly, in the infoboxes for villages in metropolitan counties in England, you are adding a shire_district field and filling in a shire_county field, when these should be metropolitan_district and metropolitan_county respectively. Secondly, the disambiguation seems a little random. I can see that you are using the lists of UK places as a source for article titles, but it should be fairly clear that some are incorrectly disambiguated (the disambiguator should be the county or equivalent, unless there is more than one place of the same name in a single county). Finally, although this is by no means essential, I wonder if you could look at filling out the Region field for villages in England? This enables additional information in the infobox, including the European constituency data which currently appears broken in some of the articles you have created. Keep up the good work, Warofdreams talk 02:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Comment about your discretion.

You recently deleted my arcticle saying it ws inacurate. I would like to challenge you to that, because I know it wasn't.

Thank you for your appreciation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kee wee2012 (talk • contribs) 21:18, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

another GA drive?

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Shiraz Review

Thank you for reviewing Shiraz. I read what you said on the talk page and have added more references. But I wanted to ask you to unofficially review it again. If the changes that I made were enough then I will nominate it again and hope that you didn't miss anything. If you found a problem with it PLEASE tell me on the talk page. If the page needs more refferences please tell me where. Thank you for your time.Manu kian maheri93 11:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I will add alot more refferences. How was the rest of the article?Manu kian maheri93 12:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for adjusting the dash issue.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

EU FAC

Hi, you made some comments on the FAC of European Commission. I'd just like to know if I have dealt with the problems you raised fully and if there is anything else? - J Logan ^t: 14:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Eli Cross

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A request for a brief look at the prose of Rob-B-Hood

Hello, I've been working on the article on the film Rob-B-Hood, in an attempt to bring it up to FA status. I've requested a copyedit from the LOCE, but no one's responded for several days, so I'd like to show you the article. If you are free, please give some comments on the prose on Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Peer review/Rob-B-Hood or my talk page. Thank you.--Alasdair (formerly Kylohk) 00:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Slow up! 2.0

You seem to have taken up a campaign of deletionism against the entire concept of notable Usenet personalities. The perception is that you don't believe such a thing existed, and you simply plan to purge all articles about such people. I don't know much about fields where you have demonstrated expertise, and I certainly don't make AfD motions for articles in areas where you are most expert, such as Kent. Please understand that Usenet is an important aspect of computer history and online culture, and that these people are more relevant to history than you seem willing to accept. --Orange Mike 18:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

These nominations are disruptive. Please stop disrupting Wikipedia. Georgewilliamherbert 00:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I know you have some strong opinions here, but your assertion that the Jargon File is not a reliable source is ludicrous. It's been published as a book (Eric S Raymond's "Hackers Dictionary"), and has extensive reliable sourcing and stable verifyable content in it. There is no blanket prohibition against sources of material which originated on the Internet being reliable sources. It is not self published. It's not a blog. It's not a personal website. It's a longstanding community based information source.

Continuing to insist that it doesn't meet WP:RS is unreasonable and disruptive. Your comments in the AFD noms are increasingly unsupportable and disruptive. Please stop disrupting Wikipedia. Georgewilliamherbert 00:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I would like to note that nothing here constitutes a breach of etiquette in any way. --Cheeser1 02:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Orion

You may wish to reconsider your remarks on the Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Orion (mythology)‎; I have commented on them here.

On another matter, I regret confusing you: the difference is that between "The Administration is divided within itself" and "The Ministry are divided among themselves"; I will not expect FAC reviewers to follow the terms of grammar hereafter. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

• No idea what that means. Epbr123 20:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Courtesy notification

Pmanderson has mentioned you here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

As I said above; but it may do no harm to explain things twice. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Serpentine (lake) GA review

Your feedback is very much appreciated, thanks. --Malleus Fatuarum 21:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

DRV

Hi,

I understood the argument you were attempting to make, yes. Your point, however, is a bit too fine: the evidence for her success in the genre(s) was a non-notable award in a non-notable magazine. I saw your argument that the guideline did not demand the evidence for criterion 3 to be notable -- despite the absence of the word from the guideline's literal text, I think this argument of yours is very thin. If WP:PORNBIO is to be read that broadly, I'd be inclined to second those folks who said the guideline needs to be scrapped (and I'm generally a strong supporter -- and proud consumer -- of pornography.) In any case, the consensus in this discussion was that your interpretation of the guideline was inappropriate for this circumstance. The simplest way to phrase this is that you lost the argument, both by head-count, and by the measure of policy, as informed by common sense. It certainly didn't help your cause that the article was a poor stub quality. Best wishes, Xoloz 02:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid you are factually in error. The two sources cited were the individual's own webpage and "lanasbigboobs.com", a commercial provider. These do not meet WP:V by even the widest stretch, much less WP:BIO. If you find different (truly reliable sources), then you are welcome to rewrite the article using them. Best wishes, Xoloz 15:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Aire, Lincolnshire

Hi,

I located this article that you created as it has been placed in the Category:Villages in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Something does not stack-up here between the title & what it says. Also there is no village, that I know of, in the East Riding of Yorkshire or in Lincolnshire called Aire. The only location of that name is the River Aire that forms the boarder between North Yorkshire and the East Riding of Yorkshire. It is this that the OS reference in the infobox appears to point to.

Keith D 19:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Advice

Hey, Epbr123. It would be very kind if you could make a habit of supplying informative edit summaries (i. e. something more than an automatically generated section title). As explained here, real, informative edit summaries are a great convenience for other editors. Btw I noticed that nearly all your edits are marked "minor", most of them wrongly. Are they perhaps marked "minor" by default? If so, this is something that you can change in your preferences. If you click on preferences and then on the tab "Editing", you'll find it. And please try to tone down the rather confrontational manner that you seem to have gotten into the habit of, probably without being aware of it.[6] You'll have more influence if you don't sound so belligerent. Bishonen | talk 17:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Invitation to GA Sweeps

I would like to invite you to GA Sweeps to ensure that all GA meet the criteria. For details you can read up on that page. OhanaUnited^Talk page 21:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: GAC Reviews

Thanks for letting me know. Just what I've always wanted, a kick in the teeth. Pursey ^Talk | Contribs 14:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Gives me a good chance to re-evaluate where I should be doing my work on Wikipedia anyhow... Pursey ^Talk | Contribs 15:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

If you wish to say things about me, then please say I have a "poor temperament" on my talk page. This is coming from the same person who called Sandy "a sad bastard" at FAC and got away with it, and furthermore threw their toys out of the pram by reverting their FACs when a few people complained. This is also the same person who came on my talk page, and threatened me to remove my "object" or they were reporting me. Let me tell you this; you might have a few FAs, but you're much more well known for having poor temperament than I have - also, a few editors have said just that. In other words, take your hypocrisy elsewhere. LuciferMorgan 18:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• Calm down, dear. Epbr123 18:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I'll think about that Epbr123 when the pot stops calling the kettle black, namely yourself. LuciferMorgan 10:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Ok. Epbr123 15:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Please stop vandalizing pages. Thank you. The Rypcord. 17:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• Damn kids. Epbr123 17:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm 41. So please stop vandalizing pages. Thank you. The Rypcord. 17:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
    • 41? Oh, dear. Epbr123 17:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Explain.The Rypcord. 17:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
        • I don't think I'll bother. And please learn how to indent. Epbr123 17:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
          • Please stop vandalizing pages. That is the point of this discussion, not my age, not how I indent, but how you constantly keep a)flaming people, b)vandalizing pages, and c)creating unwarranted Af'ds. If this continues administrators will be called in to mediate and expunge consequences on you. The Rypcord. 17:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rypcord (talk • contribs)

Recent AfD's

Hi Epbr123. The next time you decide to nominate a large group of related articles for AfD, please see WP:BUNDLE. It makes things easier to review, prevents confusion, and saves everyone looking at AfD's some time. Thanks. --Bfigura ^(talk) 03:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Manchester - FA push

Hello again! Just a nudge about the Manchester article - there's a desire from a core of editors for it to attain FA status. I know you're quite strong on this, and think it'd be great to have your input. Hope all is well, Jza84 23:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Ramblin' Wreck FAC

You added an oppose to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ramblin' Wreck on Aug 31 2007; I believe I have addressed most of your concerns. Would you care to have another look at the article? Thanks. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 03:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 12:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Archimedes FAC

I have done my best to rectify the points that you raised. --♦IanMacM♦ ^(talk to me) 21:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixes done to Battle for Henderson Field

I believe I've completed the corrections you identified were needed in the FAC for this article. Thank you. Cla68 01:45, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

GA Sweeps

This is a formal invitation to be a reviewer for WikiProject Good article sweeps. Only experienced and trusted reviewers are invited to participate in this task. If you decide to participate, keep track of your progress here. Everything you need is located on the project page. Drop a line on my talk page if you need anything. Regards, LaraLove 19:21, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Somerset wikiproject

Following your expression of interest, I've started the basic templates etc at Wikipedia:WikiProject Somerset. I'm sure your experience and expertise would be welcome.— Rod ^talk 21:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

GAC backlog elimination drive

		The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
		Thanks for reviewing and co-ordinating the drive. OhanaUnited^Talk page 01:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Blyth, Northumberland

Hi, I'm looking to nominate Blyth, Northumberland for FA soon and I was just wondering, if you have a moment, if you could take a quick look at it before I start. Basically, I just want to make sure there are no problems that could require major work. I think it seems OK, but i'd like your opinion, if you don't mind. Thanks. Dbam ^Talk/_{Contributions} 18:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks very much. Dbam ^Talk/_{Contributions} 18:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your support at the FAC. Dbam ^Talk/_{Contributions} 19:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Melbourne

Given your comment on the talk page, it would be helpful if you could tag all relevant claims with ^[citation needed] to aid those who want to help add citations to the article. Cheers. Suicup 18:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Askam and Ireleth

Hi, thanks for the comments on the talk page, I would be more than happy to work on the article based on your suggestions. However, I just have a couple of favours to ask- first of all, could you hold on for a little while before delisting, because Kijog is currently away, and he is the other person I worked on the article with, so I wouldn't like it to be delisted while he wasn't about. My second request- seeing as you seem to know this stuff, could you please see to it that Voltaire (musician) is delisted? I nominated long before it was ready, and I think it was reviewed by an inexperienced reviewer- anyway, myself (the only major contributor) along with another GA reviewer think it should be delisted, it's just he never actually did it, and I wouldn't want to delist my own article. Thanks a lot, I'll take a look at Askam and Ireleth now. J Milburn 20:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Fantastic, and thanks for dealing with Voltaire for me. J Milburn 21:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Lam Tin

I have added references to the sentences that you concern with. OhanaUnited^Talk page 23:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Sydney

While I don't mind the GA delisting, your edit summary for why the article was delisted is positively unhelpful and not explained at all. I would really appreciate it if you added a ^[citation needed] tag on every sentence you think needs a citation. Thank you. And a bit of warning you were doing this might have been nice. JRG 05:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Please respond. JRG 11:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Belfast GA issues

All addressed now. Stu ^’Bout ye! 20:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Chew Magna GA Review

I think we have addressed all your concerns about Chew Magna, could you take a look & comment if there is anything else needed?— Rod ^talk 09:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Jenner (porn star) - image

Hi Epbr123, I found on the german WP a problem with the usage of image commons:Image:Jenner.jpg in article de:Jenner (Berg), since you overloaded it with something completely different. So, as the mountain picture was first, I' ve reverted you change there. Now the problem is on Jenner (porn star). Please use another, new image name in commons when uploading again. Thanks --Herzi Pinki 22:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see...

...a question for you at Talk:Bjørnøya. Thanks. 91.64.31.126 04:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Nominally nomination

I checked the OED, which gives the following definitions.

Nominee

1. 1. A person named as the (possible) recipient of a favour, concession, etc. Obs.
   2. A person named as the recipient, or one of the recipients, of an annuity, grant, etc.
2. A person who is nominated to an office or duty. In the 19th cent.: esp. a person who is nominated to a pocket borough. Also: a person who is nominated as a candidate for election or for an honour, award, etc.
3. Stock Market. A person or group of people in whose name (rather than that of the real owner) a stock, bond, etc., is registered. Freq. attrib.

Nomination

1. 1. A name, a title; a manner of designation. Cf. NOMENCLATURE n. 1. Obs.
   2. The action or right of assigning a name or names. Cf. NOMENCLATURE n. 2. Obs.
   3. Designation by a certain name. Obs. rare.
2. 1. The action of mentioning a person or thing (by name); an instance of this. Obs.
   2. The action of specifying or fixing a time, place, etc.; the condition of being specified. Obs. rare.
3. 1. The action or right of appointing a person by name to some office or duty; an instance of this. In early use chiefly with reference to ecclesiastical appointments.
   2. Chiefly Polit. The action of proposing a person as a candidate for election or for an honour, award, etc.; the occasion or an instance of this.
4. 1. Chiefly Polit. The fact or position of being nominated, esp. (formal acknowledgement of) the condition of being selected as a candidate in a political election; an instance of this.
   2. U.S. Polit. A set of nominees. Obs. rare.
   3. (The name of) a person who or thing which has been nominated; a nominee.
5. Horse Racing. The action or an act of entering a horse into a race; (also) the horse that is entered. Cf. NOMINATE v. 4.
6. A planned mating between a particular mare and a particular stallion. Cf. NOMINATE v. 5.

I think 4.3 is the meaning we want, although I'm getting worried now that editors might start bringing horses to GAN. Geometry guy 18:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The now-traditional RFA thank-spam

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Dear Epbr123,

Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 83 supports, 1 oppose, and 0 neutrals. No matter if you voted (I mean, "!voted") support or oppose, I thank you for taking the time to drop by. I'm new, remember, so if you have any suggestions feel free to inform me of them, and if I do anything wrong, feel free to add to the permanent chorus of disapproval on my talk page. Special thanks to Walton^One and Dihydrogen Monoxide for nominating me.

iridescent (talk to me!) 21:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Credits

This design was brazenly stolen from inspired by Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor's RFA Thanks, which in turn was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks.

Fustat

Thanks for the GA comments. It is now a better article, from your thoughtful review. Plus it's nice to have another GA in the 'pedia!  :) Best, Elonka 01:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Villages in Cumbria

Hi, I'd just like to point out that Belah and Botcherby are not villages but suburbs of Carlisle although Botcherby was at one time a separate settletment, Belah or St Anns Hill to give an alternative name is basically an area of housing in the Stanwix/Kingstown district of the city and is the name of a City of Carlisle ward. Penrithguy 10:56, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for help on Chambersburg, PA

Now I have a model on how to do references! Great work, must be time-consuming.

Smallbones 14:04, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Askam and Ireleth (again)

Hi, I have worked on your suggestions- could you please take another look, and see if I have properly managed what you suggested, and also see if there is anything else that could be improved in the article? J Milburn 22:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Question for member of GA article sweeps

If you've got a moment, I was wondering if you could answer some questions I'm curious about? They are:

1. What GA articles have you worked on and submitted to GA review?
2. Have you ever worked at getting an article to FA status?

Hopefully won't take more than a moment of your time. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:54, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

In that case, thank you from the bottom of my heart. I'm sure by now you've seen my comment on the sweep talk page. I'm feeling pretty discouraged at the moment about my editing of Wikipedia, and was genuinely interested in the activities of members of the GA sweep patrol. Mainly to see if they actually edited articles.

I guess if I can say anything, it would be to put yourself in the shoes (shouldn't be hard!) of those who worked away at the articles. At the very least, a message on the talk page of those who significantly contributed to the article would be a nice thing. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Biased GA delisting of the Berlin article

The Berlin article still fulfils the criteria of a good article: " well written, stable, accurate, and referenced, have a neutral point of view, and show relevant illustrations with an appropriate copyright". Several Projects rated the Berlin article A - class. The number and quality of references are sufficiently provided for a GA status. Your delisting seems biased and not justified considering less referenced comparable articles like Chicago, Miami, L.A., Melbourne, Seattle (FA), Moscow. Are you going to delist them as well? If not, your work is not more than an unfair, hostile and highly biased nonsense of no value at all. If the mentioned articles keep their status you have to revert your delisting as soon as possible. Lear 21 23:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There has to be immediate withdrawal from the delisting decision. After an advanced research of several City & Country articles with GA or FA status it becomes clear that the Berlin article is one of the most referenced and balanced articles available. Several current Projects rated the Berlin article A - class as well. Claiming the need to cite sentences like "Funkturm Berlin is a 150 meter (492 ft) tall lattice radio tower " is ridiculous and has nothing to do with proper citation. I question the quality of the task force and its ability to judge high standards. Obviously it is not more than a random gathering of useless activities. Lear 21 22:51, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

There has been no action from your account indicating to revise other city or country articles. It becomes clear that the delisting of the Berlin article is a singular action without sense of proportion. The Berlin article fulfils many high standard aspects including factual accuracy of every sentence. Your actions proof to be short sighted, bureaucratic and lead to a highly biased ranking among city and country articles. Your actions have decreased quality, but diminished valuable examples of good articles. Lear 21 16:36, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Scotland GA

As no doubt you have noticed some significant improvements were undertaken. I was not sure if the absence of information was a good sign - can you let me know if the 'GA on Hold' has been lifted, or if further work is required. Many thanks. Ben MacDui (Talk) 21:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Not really.

Websites are not really a good source of verifiability or notability. Unless you can establish that these websites are particularly notable in and of themselves when it comes to this topic, then they really aren't good enough. However, if you would like to dispute my deletion decision, please feel free to take the article to WP:DRV. - Ta bu shi da yu 15:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

• Why do the websites have to be notable? Don't they just have to be reliable, which an economics website probably is? The other source wasn't even a website, it was an arts magazine which had been scanned onto a website. Epbr123 16:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Either notable or reliable is probably sufficient. A prime example is Bat Boy, where the sources about him are ... let's just say somewhat more notable than reliable. :-) On the other hand, an obscure scientific journal is probably not notable, but probably is reliable. If we can show either one for Economia Aziende and Dramma.it, we can probably take it to DRV. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:17, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • An "economics website" could just be an ideological crank with a good front page and a fancy name. --Orange Mike 16:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Possibly, but its unlikely Economia Aziende is. Epbr123 16:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It seems Economia is part of the Alice.it web portal run by the ISP, Alice. I'd say it probably has the same level of reliability as the yahoo or aol web portals. Epbr123 17:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Out of interest, what part of "take it to DRV" don't you guys understand? I'm not about to reverse my decision, and there is a perfectly good process for appeal if you disagree with my decision. - Ta bu shi da yu 19:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not totally convinced she's notable myself, so I might not take it to DRV, but it was just your reasons for the deletion that I found questionable. Epbr123 22:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Flagstaff, Arizona

Hi! Thanks for re-reviewing this article. However, when you updated the {{ArticleHistory}}, you simply replaced the original oldid on the GAN section of the template with the new one, completely eliminating it, and thereby leaving an inaccurate article history. What should have been done is to add a new item; not a 'GAN', but a 'GAR' (Good Article Reassessment), so that we can still see the version of the article that was originally passed, as well as the version that was reassessed. Here's an example of the new code to add to the template:

|action5=GAR

|action5date=2 October 2007

|action5link=Talk:Flagstaff, Arizona#GA Pass

|action5result=kept

|action5oldid=161387504

Thanks! Dr. Cash 18:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Replacing it is correct if the article is using {{GA}}. Although this page has further details on how to update {{ArticleHistory}}. Cheers! Dr. Cash 22:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

GAC expedited evaluation

I have had 30 successful WP:GAC evaluations, but do not recall if you have done any. I have never requested an expedited review. Do you have any advice on my request for an expedited GAC review?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Do you have to be a reviewer to be eligible for the GA Medal of Merit?

Wallachia should be delisted as a GA-article

Please see my arguments on the talkpage. Thanks. --Thus Spake Anittas 00:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Edward Low‎

Hi Epbr123. Thanks for your comments on the FAC for Edward Low - I have made most of the changes you suggested, and explained things on the FAC page. Please let me know what you now think of the article! Best, Neil ム 21:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

En dashes added. Neil ム 22:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Responded to the second set, too. I don't want to come across as churlish, but it might be less work for you to fix many of the things you've identified yourself rather than explaining. I don't mind fixing them subsequently, but "inconsistent use of dashes" doesn't tell me enough to know what the problem is. Thank you for your comments though, they are appreciated! Neil ム 08:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Ping, responded again. Neil ム 10:01, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

MR GREET AND THE NEAR DESTITUTION OF QUEENBOROUGH.

Dear Epbr123,

I'm assuming that you have written much of the history of Queenborough for the Wickipedia page on the borough - or maybe not. But if so here is my question:-

In the 1820s the town's corporation (led by the mayor called Thomas Young Greet) came in to conflict with the town's fishermen. It led to the town's near destitution. It is quite a saga which I've only picked up in snippets using Google Book Search. Is there a modern account of these events?

Paul Buttle (email Buttlekeswick at hotmail dot com) - 8th October 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.155.193.205 (talk) 14:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar for Jazmin

		The Barnstar of National Merit
		Thanks for uploading Image:Jazmin.jpg and putting it into the Jazmin article. I wish you could work on the article too. But, anyways this is a tremendous moment for Bangladesh-related porn. Thanks and cheers. Aditya^(talk • contribs) 13:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help in getting the Didsbury article up to scratch, it's much appreciated. There were an awful lot of things needing to be done, and there are still quite a few left to be done. The standard expected seems to be getting higher and higher all the time. Not necessarily a bad thing though, I suppose. --Malleus Fatuarum 00:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Pornographic performer articles

WikiThanks

You've been doing very nice work the last few days. I don't know if I like the idea of separate pages for all the unsuccessful nominations, but other than that, if you hadn't just deleted your awards sections, I'd be giving you another one. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

• Ta. I understand your concerns about the appropriateness of listing the unsuccessful nominations, as I know you don't rate nominations very highly, but if they are listed for the lesser stars, I don't see the harm in listing them for the top ones; and I'm sure you see why such a list would need to be on a separate page. Listing nominations is consistant with other entertainment genres, such as music. Epbr123 17:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Not a big deal. I came to praise Caesar, not to bury him. :-) --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 17:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I know :). I just thought know's a good time to explain the rationale behind it. Epbr123 18:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA

I am sorry you felt it necessary to oppose my recent RfA, which did not succeed. I will attempt to get more experience in the main namespace and the Wikipedia namespace and will try again for RfA in two month's time. I hope I will have satisfied your concerns by then, but if not, please comment as you feel you should. Thanks for participating in my RfA. -- Cobi^(t|c|b|cn) 08:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Michael Zen

A tag has been placed on Michael Zen, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia per CSD A1.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the article and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. MasterXC 16:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Photo of Tatum Reed

Can you please use a better photograph of Tatum Reed from the public domain, she is a very beautiful woman, and you have found the worst photograph of her of all time! What is your style? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 408foxman (talk • contribs) 18:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

• My style is having a free-use photo without a shadow covering her face. Epbr123 18:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Your RfC/U

I would like to formally and politely ask that you discontinue adding material to your response at the RfC/U regarding your behavior, if such material does not pertain to the RfC/U in question. It troubles me that you have taken advantage of the RfC/U format, and have taken to adding accusations that have no bearing on the situation at hand (e.g. [7] [8] [9]). The RfC/U allows you to mount a defense, and to question the actions of the other users involved, but only insofar as the complaint is concerned. By making accusations that are not related, our actions are taken out of context, and we are given no means to explain, defend, or contextualize these accusations. Those issues are to be resolved in the relevant way - the ones for which you've indicted me have all been resolved, as best as they can, to everyone's satisfaction. It is highly inappropriate, as far as I'm concerned, and causes me serious misgivings about your approach to the RfC/U process. Please take note that this is a formal request: I am not asking you to discuss this matter, justify your actions, or anything of the sort. I do not expect or desire a response, and would prefer if there were none. I do not have the time to discuss the matter with you in any depth, and believe no constructive conversation would take place. I am simply making very clear how I (and others) perceive your ever-expanding "response" to the RfC/U, and our desire that you would instead participate in this process by responding in a constructive and fair manner. --Cheeser1 10:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

• All the pieces of evidence I have provided are highly relevant to the RfC. I have refrained from adding the many pieces of irrelevant evidence found. Epbr123 10:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Porn star categories

I see you are applying porn star categories. There was an earlier concern that "star" is not an accurate term for everyone who appears in a pornographic film. What criteria are you using to decide if folks are porn actors versus porn stars? ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to saw the discusion were, or what the consensus was.

The main article is at Pornographic actor, where it's been for a year since moving from "Pornographic performer". There have been short discussions at Talk:Pornographic actor in 2003 and 2005, but as far as I can tell it's never been called "Porn star".

I think I'm recalling the debates about Category:People appearing in gay pornography.and CFD:Category:Gay porn stars CFD:Category:Gay porn stars (redux) and CFD: Category:People appearing in gay pornography Those discussions touch on using "porn star" in a category name.

The "Category:Male porn stars" was created on June 3, 2005, but "Category:Female porn stars" wasn't created until April 14, 2006. The women must have been in some the undifferentiated "Category:Porn stars" which we've had since June 13, 2004.

I thought there was a general consensus opposing the "porn star" term, but it was probably limited to the debates on the one category. So the categories you've applied are probably fine, but we may want to think of renaming them to something. They've been pretty stable at their existing names, so it's not urgent. Anyway, carry on. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 09:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Epbr123. I see that you removed Michael Lucas (porn star) from Category:Male porn stars. This article has been somewhat of a football in the recent past. I hope your edit will not set off a new round of instability. Have you posted anywhere on what your plan is? EdJohnston 20:03, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I haven't posted what I'm doing anywhere, but it seems a pretty clear cut issue. Category:Male porn stars is intended for actors in heterosexual porn, whereas gay-porn actors belong in its subcategory Category:People appearing in gay pornography. But if anyone wants to revert my change, I won't cause a fuss. Epbr123 20:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The article is titled Michael Lucas (porn star). Would you remove 'porn star' from the title? If so, what alternative do you suggest? Is there a thread discussing whether gay porn stars are also regular porn stars? I can't believe I'm having this conversation. :-) EdJohnston 20:41, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Again, Category:People appearing in gay pornography is a subcategory of Category:Male porn stars. Epbr123 20:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Chetwynd, British Columbia

I have nominated Chetwynd, British Columbia for Good Articles. As someone with considerable experience with city-related articles and the GA/FA process, I would like to have you review or comment it. --maclean 01:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• I'll try to look at it when I get time. Epbr123 22:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I noticed you started reviewing it. Thank you for the edits. I also saw your notes in your sandbox. I'll address the points there. --maclean 00:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Sydney

WP:GAR point 3. says that you should detail issues on the talk page first and point 4. says allow time for editors to fix. It appears, you've missed both these points in removing Sydney from GA. Why then should I not suggest you reinstate it and follow the correct procedure? Thanks. --Merbabu 05:18, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Tatum Reed photo

I initially agreed with you, but the blog post where she releases into the public domain is good enough for me. I'm not an expert on images, though. -Chunky Rice 16:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Denver GA question

You recently posted on the Talk:Denver, Colorado, that the GA would pass if we could provide fair use rationale on the page's images. I am not sure exactly what you would want the Denver editors to do about that since virtually all the images have proper licenses or are public domain because they are produced by the government or were created before 1923. Are there specific images you had concerns about? If so please let us know. Thanks, Vertigo700 16:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

• See Help:Image page#Use rationale. As stated in the review, Image:Gonzales-DenverPL-002.jpg and Image:RMN Cover May 2 06.jpg need fair use rationales. Epbr123 16:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Those two were removed from the article shortly after you brought it up. Thanks for your help improving the article! --MattWright (talk) 18:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Michigan State Capitol

I recently went through the article and have done some copyediting to address your concerns in the review. Can you look at it further to see if there more problems? Thanks. Pentawing^Talk 03:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Chicago delist

I did not notice how much its quality has slipped. It was A-class rated not long ago. Good call.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Tiny places

Hi there. I have noticed with interest your alphabetical sojourn around some of Scotland's smaller settlements. I was wondering if it was politic to mention that some of them are hardly 'villages' and possibly below the notability threshold. Amhuinnsuidhe for example, gave me pause for thought - there is already an Amhuinnsuidhe Castle and there are probably fewer than 10 people in the settlement within a mile either side of it. It's up to you of course, but I must mention An Clachan. I am not sure where it is supposed to be, but the one at latitude= 55.85 longitude=-06.45 is simply a rock somewhere off the coast of Islay I'm afraid. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Edward Low FAC, non-breaking space

You said "Non-breaking spaces should be places between numbers and units." I was unaware of this and frankly it sounds unneccesary. Can you explain it or perhaps send me a link to the relevant guidelines/policies? - Mgm|^(talk) 19:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• WP:MOS. Epbr123 20:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Ir Ovot delist

Sorry for the delay, but I left a message for you at Talk:Ir Ovot. Tewfik^Talk 23:23, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello again. Just checking in to ensure that you saw this. Tewfik^Talk 22:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello again. I suppose you missed the last two messages, but I fixed the two small things that you pointed out, and I was hoping that you could either relist it or tell me if something else is holding it back. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 12:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Rudget RfA

Dearest Opposer,

Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed unsuccessfully with 39 supports, 15 oppose, and 1 neutral. I would have liked to gain some experience of being an admin, but it wasn't to be. At least I gained some valuable time there and will use my knowledge picked up to my next candidacy. I would like to say once again, thank you for voting and I hope to see you at my next request be it a nomination or self-induced, I hope I don't get as many questions! Rudget _{Contributions} 09:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Edmonton delist

Thanks for the edit of the Edmonton article. I authored a lot of the article about two years ago but have been very busy with an MA thesis to pay much attention to it. I'll try working on it over this weekend to get things up to current standards. I'll add citations as I can, but there are certain things which are rather common knowledge around the City. For instance, the downtown having high office vacancy in the 90s and now much lower. Due to the somewhat competitive nature between Edmonton and Calgary, perhaps you could give Calgary's page a look over to? :) Rendar 22:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a second Carlos admin

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My dear Wikipedian Epbr123,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 29 supports, 1 opposed, and 3 neutral. No matter if you !voted support, oppose, neutral, or even if you just stopped by to make a comment, I thank you for taking the time to drop by. Since I am a new admin, if you have any suggestions or concerns, feel free to inform me of them. Special thanks to Carlossuarez46 for encourage me and nomination. Thank you and good day.

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This RFA thanks was inspired by The Random Editor, who in turn was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks. So unfortunately this is not entirely my own design.

This end the usual RFA thanks spam. You may return to your regular editing now.

Successful RfA - Thank you!

Thank you for participating in my recent RfA. It was successful, and I was promoted to Administrator today. I appreciate your comments and will take them to heart as I learn the ropes. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

FYI

A conversation about Chew Stoke here: [10] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

--Bonnyton, Aberdeenshire-- please if you would add some references and remove the notability thing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.84.143 (talk) 04:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Click "show" to see my message. What is meant to be and what is not... Thank you for your recent comments and vote at my Request for Adminship. It was not successful. I don't believe this is unfortunate as it leaves me with much to ponder and a fresh slate from which I can better myself as an editor in order to be more compliant with the policies that are expected by Wikipedia. If you feel that there is anything that was not covered by the RfA that I need improvement in, I would implore your input and feedback as I hope and intend to improve as best I'm guided. All the best in your own endeavours in the real world, and also when you're not on Wikipedia. lincalinca 14:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Bradley Cross

Hello, in August 2007, you created an article called Bradley Cross. As you will be able to see, the article hardly shows any information, except for one or two facts that could be found all over the internet on map websites. Do you think the article should be deleted? Please send your reply on my talk page. Thanks, Lunchscale 16:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Adminship 2

Hello Epbr123, I've seen you around alot recently on the wiki, and that's probably due to my increased activity. I would like to nom you, but I have reservations because of the userbox on your UP saying you don't wish to be an admin, and the fact that you haven't already been nominated makes me believe you've already turned down a nom? I know this might seem strange seen as you voted !oppose in my RfA but I don't really see that as a big deal. I hope you do accept this request from one user to another. I will start a RfA page for you when you accept my nom, but if not no big worries. Thank you and Regards, Rudget _{Contributions} 21:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you for your offer. After giving it some thought, I've decided to accept your nomination. Although, as a regular participant at AfD, I have had a fair share of conflict; the RfA will be tough, but it will be interesting to see how it works out. Epbr123 22:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• I advise waiting a bit. You have done a lot of good things, but you have gotten into a number of conflicts not that long ago. A reasonable suggestion would be to wait until you can be fairly sure that say, half, of the people commenting at your RFC won't oppose you. (Some are probably ... I hate to say trolls, but let's say dead set against you for less than ideal reasons ... but some are reasonable and experienced editors.) --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I'll take AnonEMouse's advice and leave it a while, Rudget. Thanks again. Epbr123 13:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Fine by me. Drop me a line anytime. I also concur with AnonEMouse with the RFC comments, I wasn't aware of that but was recently notified, and so leaving it a while would be an excellent suggestion. Rudget _{Contributions} 15:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

GA medal

Thanks! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the Barnstar, Epbr123. I'll repeat it, and I believe it's true-- you do a lot of good work here. I don't-- nor do any of the others, I believe-- have against you personally. We have only the best of intentions in building up Wikipedia, as I am sure you do too. Cheers! Dekkappai 01:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Bradley Cross

A tag has been placed on Bradley Cross requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lunchscale 13:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I just removed the tag, unaware of the discussions going on on the talk pages of the you and the other editor. As you probably know, villages and cities, etc... are typically not db'd, but if you think it is too small, you might consider placing {{db-self}} on the page, or blanking it. I will then delete it.--Esprit15d^(admin_{talk to me}^contribs) 14:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

As User:Rodw has just gone to the trouble of expanding the article, maybe it should stay. Epbr123 14:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

References

Hi! As you're creating the new articles on towns in Burkina Faso, could you include a reference? It would save me the trouble of tagging them as unreferenced. Thanks! -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The articles I'm referring to are articles like Kouere; it would be really helpful if you included a source in these new articles. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:27, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Each article has a link to various maps through the co-ordinates link at the top right of the page. Might this be enough to show the info is true? Epbr123 16:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Rememberance Day

OhanaUnited^Talk page 18:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

OhanaUnited's RfA

Thanks for voting at my RfA. Unfortunately, the result stands at 51 support, 21 oppose and 7 neutral which means that I did not succeed. As many expressed their appreciation of my works in featured portals during my RfA, I will fill up the vacuum position of director in featured portal candidates to maintain the standards of featured contents in addition to my active role in Good articles. Have a great day. OhanaUnited^Talk page 04:13, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

deletion warning

Braan

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Braan, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of the page. Lurker (said · done) 19:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Nice to see someone here having spent (and spending) more time on Wikipedia than myself. But I've noted you still use templates from Template:TestTemplates. If I may say so, those are deprecated, the thing nowadays are WP:WARN. And to be honest, I think you sometimes are a bit harsh- Special:Contributions/Joblax had a selfreverted vandalism, and you dished out a blatant-warning, looking like a level 3 or perhaps level 4. Of course, I can't see if that person has some deleted vandalism in addition (which of course might explaing it) but it does look a bit, well, harsh. But by all means, keep up the good work! Greswik 01:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Your GA expertise

Hi, Epbr123. Remember me? AnonEMouse has been nudging me to put an article through the GA process. I wondered if you might give Tetsuji Takechi a look in light of GA standards and let me know if you see any obvious problems. Thanks. Dekkappai 23:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the help and the suggestions at your Sandbox, Epbr123. You've definitely helped improve the article. I've tried to address all the points at the Sandbox, except for the request for more info on his early life... If I could find some, I'd certainly add it, but haven't been able to so far. Let me know if you have any more concerns/suggestions. I'll tinker around with it a little more, follow a few more leads for information, do som more work on the list of writings and maybe the filmography, and maybe submit it for GA review in a week or two. Thanks again. Dekkappai 21:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Click there to open your card! → → →

Dearest Epbr123,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 137 supports, 22 opposes, and 5 neutrals. Your kind words of support are very much appreciated and I look forward to proving you right. I would like to give special thanks to The_undertow and Phoenix-wiki for their co-nominations. Thank you again and best regards.

Lara❤Love 20:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC) Credits: This RFA thanks was inspired by The Random Editor's RFA thanks which was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks.

Adminship nomination

Yes, I certainly am interested - please go ahead and nominate me! Thanks.--h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 15:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Good, I'll starting writing your nomination. Epbr123 15:38, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Why is there so much deletionism being displayed towards pornographic actress articles on your userpage, by the way?--h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 15:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to clean-up the porn star category by deleting articles on the non-notable stars and starting articles on the notable ones. I've listed the deleted ones on my user page so that I can look out for re-creations. Epbr123 15:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

One thing that I am concerned about, though, is the views that I present in some of my user essays, some of which could be seen as against the spirit of Wikipedia.--h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 16:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I had noticed some of your essays are potentially controversial, but it's hard to judge how they will affect the RfA; it's possible they may help it. It's up to you whether you want to take the gamble. If you no longer agree with some of your essays, now would be the best time to change them Epbr123 16:45, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with them for the most part - I made a few changes here and there, although there may be a few things in them that could still be negative. Are you writing the RfA just now?--h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 16:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm writing it now. I could wait a while before submitting it? Epbr123 17:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

That's cool, although if you could submit it today that would be good if you feel you can do that. Also, one thing - you should really archive this talk page; it's becoming extremely long.--h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 17:08, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

It has begun - good luck! Epbr123 17:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll need good luck. I have more opposes than supports right now. Maybe I'm not made to be an administrator - could just stick to the GAs and AfDs instead... but we'll see.-h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 20:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I understand that WP:RFA is a difficult process, and that people opposing your nomination can feel difficult, but I do think that with AfDs, salting pages and protecting pages I'd know how to handle things.-h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 20:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Victuallers

Yes I'm interested. User:Blnguyen suggested this a few days ago... is this part of the same process? Victuallers 20:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Well that was a lot less fun than I thought it was going to be. I thought I had two proposers and now its none. I think it was Oscar Wilde who said he wouldn't join a club that would have him as a member... now I feel the opposite... hope that makes sense! Anyway.. thanks for the thought Victuallers 11:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

thanks

Well, a few admins have said they're interested in nominating me, and I appreciate the thought, but I'm not jumping in right now. Thanks very much though. Tvoz |talk 04:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks, but no thanks

At this time, I can usually do what I need to do and want to do without admin powers. Why look for trouble? Chris the speller 15:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

As Chris wrote, with an emphasis on the thanks. - Dudesleeper · Talk 15:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

my rfa

If you voted in my RFA...

...thank you for your participation. I withdrew with 83 supports, 42 opposes, and 8 neutrals. Your kind words and constructive criticism are very much appreciated. I look forward to using the knowledge I have accrued through the process to better the project. I would like to give special thanks to Tim Vickers and Wikidudeman for their co-nominations.

Thank you again and, best regards. VanTucky ^Talk

This RFA thanks was inspired by Lara❤Love's

GAH!

Thanks for your vote of confidence in my work by suggesting that I be nominated as an admin, but I'm a law student -- there's no way I could discharge the duties of an admin in the way I'd desire. Sorry! Aelfthrytha 22:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Admin

I'll have to pass, but thanks. I might consider it later, but for the moment, I'm happy editing normally. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 10:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks but no thanks

Thanks for your post, but I'm not interested in adminship. I guess "no big deal" applied years ago, but today RFA is 80% popularity contest and 20% exam, and I consider the entire procedure to be broken. But thanks for what I consider an expression of confidence. Valentinian ^T / C 15:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

RE:Admin

Thanks for the comment on my talk page, but currently I'm not interested. Thanks again! Lugnuts 18:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Admin

Many thanks for the proposed nomination, but no thanks. I am interested in writing and developing articles, categorisation etc and improving Wikipedia, but not remotely interested in wasting time and energy on edit wars, morons and endless exchanges of messages. Flattered by your nomination, but life is too short. very best wishes. Ardfern 20:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Recruiting new admin candidates

Looks like we're both not having good luck. Frustrating, isn't it? Some good folks out there just don't care to push the ol' Mop-and-Bucket around. --Orange Mike 21:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

• Yeah. The users who are sensible enough to not want to be admins are probably the one's who would be best at it. Epbr123 21:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
  • • Only joking (in case I put off anyone from accepting my future offers). Epbr123 22:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
  • You mean the most sensible ones?

--AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 22:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Admin

I'd like to go through editor review first. Thanks. Cheers. _{Hydrogen Iodide (HI!)} 05:33, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Admin nomination

Thanks for your vote of confidence in me, but I'm going to decline. My work here is sporadic and I don't want to commit myself to the responsibilities of an admin as I won't always have the time. --Bruce1ee 06:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Admin nomination

Hey Epbr123, thanks for the nod. I'll have to think about it. I find the RfA process highly political, and dis-unifying to the community. How did you come to think that I would be a good admin? Regards, -- Jeff3000 13:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

• I think you'd make a good admin as you have been editing for nearly 3 years, you have made over 27,000 edits, you have no incivility issues, you're experienced at improving articles, you're good at leaving edit summaries, and you have experience of participating at Administrators' noticeboard/3RR, Administrator intervention against vandalism, Articles for deletion and Categories for discussion. Epbr123 16:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Admin nom

Hi, thanks for the thought. I would like to try someday but I'm not sure I feel experienced enough at the moment. --BelovedFreak 12:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Chew Stoke FAC

Thanks for your comments on 29 Oct on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates I've answered them on that page & wonder whether you would review whether you are able to support it?— Rod ^talk 16:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

UKCOUNTIES?

Hello Epbr123/Archive 1! I Hope all is well. I'm contacting you as part of your continued membership of WP:UK Geography.

In addition to some cosmetic upgrades I've made/requested for the project, I'm considering a draft upgrade of the Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about counties guide, so that it is much more user friendly and at a standard more akin to the WP:UKCITIES standard.

Of course I'd like to have you involved from the start. If you have any concerns or ideas, I'd be grateful if you could leave them at my talk page, where I'll pool together some ideas from some other users and then report back with them. My initial thoughts are they should inline with the existing policy on counties as well as allow for flexibility for ENG/SCO/WLS/NI. Hope you can help, -- Jza84 · (talk) 22:17, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

RfA for Canadian Paul

Four years ago this day, a foreigner was voted by the community to serve a land that he loved. Today, a new foreigner humbly accepts the charge and support of serving a community that he loves. Hopefully, he won't disappoint. Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed with a vote of (47/0/1). The trust bestowed upon me by the community is one of the most touching honours that I have ever received, and I vow not to let you down. Whether you have suggestions for ways in which I could improve, a request for assistance or just need someone to listen, my talk page and my email are always open. I pledge to do what I can to help this project, in the words of a man who needs no introduction, "make the internet not suck." A special thank you goes out to Tim Vickers for nominating me. Cheers, CP 23:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Admin

"I'd like to nominate you as an admin" Thanks, but I'm definitely not interested. I already spend too much time doing this, and the part that I enjoy is creating new material, not in fighting WP disputes and the like. But thanks nonetheless. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

wikiproject uk geo

Can I suggest that where more than 1 project has adopted an article, and you're adding a further one, you also add {{WikiProjectBanners}} to tidy them up. My personal view is that for London articles, WPLondon and WPTransportforLondon are sufficient, as these are daughter projects of your own esteemed project, and it's a little overkill to have so many banners on talk pages; but I do realise that other's mileage may differ ... Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 17:16, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks 8^) Kbthompson (talk) 18:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Admin (part 2)

Hi! Thanks for your thoughtfulness in suggesting I could become an Admin but I would far sooner work on pics and article editing than get involved in the intricacies of Admin work. I thoroughly understand picture taking, picture processing and picture placement and my little brain could cope with no more :-). Thanks again, Best wishes - Adrian Pingstone (talk) 18:49, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

River Trent v River Severn

By what strange logic are these in different importance cats. Geographically they seem rather similar to me (they're both the last seaward leg, both have tidal surges, etc.) And having looked out at the two of them for many years of my life, (I was born on the south side of Derby, went to work at Berkeley), they seem of similar strategic importance, eg to their joint water board (ST). Bob aka Linuxlad (talk) 16:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, the River Severn is the longest river in the UK; but I've now upgraded the River Trent, as I was thinking of doing it anyway. Epbr123 (talk) 17:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Nothing florid, nothing fancy. Just thanks (especially to you, for listening to everybody's input). I'll try to wield the Mop-and-Bucket with grace and humility. --Orange Mike 03:58, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

How to write about...

Hello again Epbr123. Thanks for rolling out WP:UKGEOs banner so rapidly! That was amazing! I though it'd take months!... undoubtedly there will be articles not yet tagged, but once we have a bulk of them it should catch on.

Just wanted to bring your attention to WP:UKCOUNTIES - I've published some draft guidelines and I'm keen to get some more feedback and input on them. I don't think these will have as many points of contention as WP:UKCITIES did, but I'm still wary of setting them in stone without community involvement. Hope you can help! -- Jza84 · (talk) 14:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Admin (part 3)

I appreciate the effort you're investing in the recruitment of new admins, and I'm certainly flattered that you thought I would be a good candidate, but I'm going to decline. I've found that I can contribute to Wikipedia in the ways that I want to without being an admin. JamesMLane t c 22:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Nesting multiple banners

Hi, I see you've been adding UKGEO banners to lots of villages in Somerset (and probably elsewhere). Would it be possible to nest them using {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} so that they don't take over the articles talk page?— Rod ^talk 20:03, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks— Rod ^talk 22:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Michael Lucas (porn star)

Editor Lucasent has removed sourced material five times in the last three days from the Michael Lucas bio. You made this edit [11] on Lucasent's talkpage when Lucasent prod'ed the article in October. Lucasent seems bent on removing reference to Lucas being a prostitute and founding his company with money he earned through prostitution, a fact well-sourced in the article. Other editors have reverted the vandalism, but the editor persists -- and the current revision reflects the vandalism. There's obvious COI stuff going on here. --72.76.100.166 (talk) 22:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

My RfA - thanks

Thank you for nominating me for adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of 38/1/0! I hope I can live up to the standards of adminship, and I will try my best to make Wikipedia a better place. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 18:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Adminship request

Hello, I am ready. Thank you, –thedemonhog talk • edits 21:17, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that you already know but the template said to respond here to say that I accept. –thedemonhog talk • edits 00:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Maidstone

Thanks for chipping in on Maidstone. I wouldn't mind doing the history section at some point if you had plans for further work. Cheers Dick G (talk) 22:56, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Careful

It is good to see that you are tagging with WP:UKgeo. However, can i ask you to be careful when tagging as, for example, with the Herts project, when you copied the projects to the Banners template, you also added an extra class= so it read class=class=B. Please preview and that in future a bit ore. Thank you for your time and keep up the good work otherwise. Simply south (talk) 23:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

• Sorry, I'll check if that's happened with any others. Epbr123 (talk) 23:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Single banner in shell

Just wondered, why are you nesting single banners in {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}? Usually this is only used for 3+ banners, and just one nested on an otherwise empty talk page just looks a but weird! It also detracts from one of the reasons to have talk page banners - so people interested in the project see an obvious banner. Regards, Severo^TC 21:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think it saves having to add the BannerShell later once other project banners are inevitably added to the talk page. WikiProject England and WikiProject Cities will probably tag the same articles I've tagged in the near future, and each county will probably eventually its own project. Epbr123 (talk) 22:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Scott5114's RFA

Thank you for supporting me in my recent RFA nomination. Unfortunately, I have withdrawn the nom early at 17/13/3. I am presently going to undergo admin coaching in preparation for a second candidacy somewhere down the line. I hope to see your continued support in the future. Regards, —Scott5114↗ 07:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

RFA thanks

Dear Epbr123, Thank you for participating in my recent RfA. Words nor pictures can express my heartfelt appreciation at the confidence the community has shown me. I am both heartened and humbled by this confidence. I will carry the lessons learned from the constructive criticism I have received with me as I edit Wikipedia, and heed those lessons. Special thanks to Pedro and Henrik as nominators. Special thanks to Rudget who wanted to. A very special thanks to Moonriddengirl for her eloquence and perceptiveness. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 19:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Admin

Hey, I'd rather not right now... I doubt I'll be able to carry out admin duties consistently, especially next year. School's getting really busy, and I find it hard to edit anything outside the tropical cyclones WikiProject these days. Perhaps some other time. Thanks very much for the offer, though. - SpLoT // 10:44, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Admin

Thank you for your suggestion. It is an honor. I am interested. Is it possible to talk to you directly about the details before going forward? Thanks again! Brianga 10:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of churches in Greater Manchester

List of churches in Greater Manchester, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that List of churches in Greater Manchester satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of churches in Greater Manchester and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of List of churches in Greater Manchester during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. • Freechild'sup? 18:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin

If you feel that nominating me to be an Admin, I can't really argue against it. Thanks for the honour. Kaiser matias 00:13, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin for Hike395: no thanks

Thank you for your vote of confidence, but I don't wish to be an admin. hike395 04:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Adminship

Hi, thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'd rather not just at the moment - pretty busy with other things, and the RfA process is pretty daunting. Stevage 14:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Massospondylus

Hi Epbr,

Thank you for your copyedits on Massospondylus. They are greatly appreciated. :) If you think of anything else which could improve the article, please do not hesitate to mention it. Thanks again, Firsfron of Ronchester 03:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Adminship

Thanks very much for your suggestion, I'm honoured. I'm not sure I'm ready just yet, I think I'd like to get a couple of months more experience first. Cheers. WATP ^(talk) • _(contribs) 16:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

At this time, no.

At this time, I'll have to decline the bit. I've been focusing on content for the past several months, and don't need admin powers for that. I might reconsider in the future...

Thanks for asking, though.

--EngineerScotty 19:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin Nomination

Hi, thanks for nominating me for an admin role, I am honoured by the trust placed in me and have accepted the nomination on the form. Keith D 21:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Adminship

Hey Epbr123, thanks for considering me for adminship. Honestly, I despise the conflict-oriented culture of WP and the superbly inane drivel that passes for WP:N. Blech. I just wouldn't be a good admin right now - but again, thanks for the thought. • Freechild'sup? 01:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Your request to nominate me for adminship

I would have no problem if you were to nominate me for adminship, and I would consider it an honor. Also, you may want to think about archiving this talk page as you currently have 280+ topics listed and the archive would improve the usability of this page.--Michael Greiner 01:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Louise Stanley AFD

Hi. I've done a little searching, and found some sources that might be worthwhile. Do you still !vote delete? Zagalejo^^^ 07:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

That was a brutal commentary that you went through, Epbr123. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience - they are well-taken, and I will heed them. • Freechild'sup? 15:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Argyll and Bute settlements

I've tagged some of the settlement articles in Category:Villages in Argyll and Bute for WP:PROD deletion: Annat, Argyll and Bute, Add, Argyll and Bute, Achnahard, Aird, Argyll and Bute. That last one has coordinates that resolve to the Antrim coast, where there is indeed an Aird. These seem to be just names on a map: single farms, fields, a misread river name, &c. Regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin

Hi. I just wondered if you'd consider letting me nominate you for adminship, as you seem experienced enough. Thanks. Epbr123 10:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank-you for the compliment. There was a time last year when I became extremely interested in adminship. I was enrolled in the admin coaching program, in fact. I had a very disrupting health problem (cancer) come up which made my use of wikipedia very sporadic and difficult for several months, however, so I withdrew from the program. In the past 3 months I have been doing very well, healthwise, and I am again able to spend more time in wikipedia editing and patrolling, so I am indeed interested once again in adminship. One concern I have, however, is the perception that others will have of my former activity level and my period of idleness, followed by my now lower contribution level. I do what I can now, which I think is very beneficial, and I do see times where the mop tools would come in handy to repair messes like improper page moves, forgotten tags, etc. So if you feel I am a worthy candidate, I would be honored to be nominated. JERRY ^talk _contribs 16:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the nom. I have formally accepted and answered the 3 questions. Would you please post my rfa? Thanks, JERRY ^talk _contribs 00:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank-you again for your nomination and encouragement (and !vote) at my RFA, which was successful. JERRY ^talk _contribs 03:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin

I am afraid I must decline. I appreciate the offer, but due to my past history (which I prefer not to discuss) I wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell of becoming an admin. TJ Spyke 02:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Sorry to add yet another topic to this seemingly endless page, but I really must thank you for some great copyediting work on Aberdeen Grammar School. I really appreciate it.

Thanks again, WBOSITG (talk) 10:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin nom

I formally accept. Here's hoping. Thanks for the nomination. Chris Cunningham (talk) 08:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Settlements in Kent

Hi Some months ago I was active in writing/updating articles on Kentish settlements, but have had a busy time and had to give up for a while. I tried to make sure that each settlement was given its precise appellation - was it a village or hamlet; was it a civil parish as well as a village - or was it, like Ash-cum-Ridley civil parish, a collection of villages; which local government district was it in? As a geographer I felt that that was the proper approach, although it did take time. On my return I see there is now a plethora of articles produced by your good self on what are in essence merely hamlets or often just names on a map. They all say the same thing: "xxx is a village in Kent, England". Since that is all they say, they now appear on the Category:Kent geography stubs. To take just a the first few examples, from the A section of the stubs list:

Abbey Gate is simply a collection of houses around the old Boxley Abbey, and is virtually part of the Maidstone area

Acrise Place - see the article Acrise

Anvil Green - even on the map it does not look like a village - a name, yes

Appledore Heath is just a northern extension of Appledore itself

Ashbank - part of Leeds village

and one more

Baker's Cross - again a name on the map, but part of Cranbrook.

It does seem a pity that these articles jump the gun a bit, since I feel that a little more time with each one could have given more precise information. Was it necessary to have them all articled in such a manner? A village is a village, and not a hamlet or a collection of houses, IMO. Regards Peter Shearan (talk) 08:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to alter or merge them. Epbr123 (talk) 08:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Peter Shearan (talk) 07:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Tera Wray's Birthdate

Oh hi there!
Can you please tell me why you're continuesly undoing the birthdate on Tera Wray's page ?
and on what basis do you judge that the afdb is not a reliable source?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowmadness (talk • contribs) 10:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Maindate

Thanks! (But I hope it doesn't take too much of your time away from FAC reviews.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

• Nice work; glad you're on it! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Admin

Hey there. Regarding your question on my talk page: I'd be honoured to be nominated for adminship. Please let me know what information you'd like from me in preparation, and I'll provide it. Thanks very much! Tony Fox (arf!) 04:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the great nom statement! I'll answer the questions when I get home from work this evening, and we can go from there. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 17:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Accepted and questions responded to. Hope they're suitable... thanks again. Tony Fox (arf!) 03:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Really, really bad haiku from a new admin

Setting new lows in thank-you spam:

Click there for my RfA spam haikus! → → →

Janitor's new tools
Spam must stop -- will new mop act?
Ooops, .com blocked

New admin, new tools
Earnest newbie furrows brow
Fare thee well Main Page

New mess all about
Sorcerer's Apprentice mop
Not supporter's fault

A. B. so grateful
Wikipedia trembles
Watch out DRV

A. B. wonders why
Copyright always confused
Fair use, farewell, bye

Qatar is blocked
Shucks those range blocks are tricky!
Will get it straight soon.

Dear RfA friend,
I will learn, chaos will fade
Thanks so much ... A. B.

This RfA thank you card is based on a card originally done by Phaedriel

Epbr, thanks so much for your support.--A. B. ^(talk) 21:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which was successful with a vote of 33/7/4.

Special thanks go to Epbr123 for nominating me and Pedro for the offer of help.

I am honoured by the trust placed in me by the community. I hope to repay this by the wise use of the tools, which I intend to use gradually. Mop & bucket is on the Christmas list - honest. Keith D (talk) 00:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Somerset on FAC

Hi, Somerset is currently a FAC see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Somerset and has only recieved one (+ve) comment & it's now well down the list - any suggestions on how to get more people to comment/vote before it gets dropped off the bottom of the list?— Rod ^talk 15:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice re comparative population data tables on Somerset. I've now done this - hope it meets your concerns?— Rod ^talk 21:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Possible admin nom

Well I was flattered by that comment left on my talk page, however I'm not so sure that I'm seen as a saint when it comes to the Wiki Community. I've made loads of great edits and am probably experienced enough, but I seem to choose political figures to edit which are extremely controversial and I've even been involved in some very hostile edit wars. I'm not sure I would get the votes needed, and I'm pretty content in my current position. However, maybe in the future.... Thanks a lot, Happyme22 (talk) 17:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin

Hi. I just wondered if you'd consider letting me nominate you for adminship, as you seem experienced enough. Thanks. Epbr123 (talk) 00:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Not interested at this moment, but thanks. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 17:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Adminship nomination invite

Per your message on my talk page (if you didnt catch my response there), I would be honored to be nominated for adminship. --MASEM 17:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Email

Sent you an email. Kind regards,

Redrocketboy 18:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin?

Thanks for the recommendation, but I don't think I have the time to devote to being an admin just now. Coemgenus 21:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Review

City & South London Railway has been at FAC for over a month, and my maintenance of User:Deckiller/FAC urgents doesn't seem to be prompting reviews; since it's London, would it be up your alley and would you have time to review it? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 10:02, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 24 support, 3 oppose, and 3 neutral. I promise to work my hardest to improve the Wiki with my new tools. Thanks for nominating me.

--Michael Greiner 18:47, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

James Milner

Hi, could you please take a look at the article James Milner for me? The article was previously an FAC, but failed because the prose wasn't good enough. Could you please take a look when you can find the time? Thanks you. Buc (talk) 09:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Sheep

Hey, considering that you've made some copyediting to Sheep (thanks btw), I was wondering if you could chime in at a current dispute there for a better group consensus. Right now, a user has made WP:OWN accusations against me for giving a detailed response to some controversial claims he has made without strong evidence (in my opinion). If you could make your voice heard, even if you disagree, it would be most appreciated. VanTucky ^talk 09:09, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Joey Barton

Similarly to Buc's request above, when you get a chance could you please look at the prose in the Joey Barton article. It's currently GA status. Thanks, Sir-Nobby (talk) 17:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Western Chalukya architecture

Thank you for your copy edits.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 18:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Blessed editing, and...

Happy Holidays from Marlith ^T/C

Credits: This card was inspired by Macy's123, assistant of V's Shop

Marlith ^T/C 00:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikilinking the date parameter

Hi! Please do not make any more edits like this one. The citation templates automatically wikilink the date parameter. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 18:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, good. The date linking in the citation template has finally been fixed. Epbr123 (talk) 18:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer... I accept

Thanks for the kind offer to nominate me for administrator, but for the time being I prefer to concentrate on writing in Wikipedia, rather than performing administrative functions. All the best... Pinkville (talk) 23:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I've thought this over quite carefully and I've changed my mind. I am indeed willing to run for admin. What would you like me to do regarding the nomination? Pinkville (talk) 20:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I won't have access to the internet from the 24th to the 26th, so it would be best to begin the proceedings on the 27th, I believe. Thanks again. Pinkville (talk) 20:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but no thanks

Thank you for the offer, but I don't believe I have what it takes to be an admin, and I do not have the spare time to contribute as one. -- saberwyn 23:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

BIO discussion

I'd made an alternate proposal [[12]] that you may want to look at. Horrorshowj (talk) 06:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

List of works by William Monahan

Epbr, do you have the time to review the list of works by William Monahan that is currently at WP:FAC? Any comments or edits you could provide would be appreciated.-BillDeanCarter (talk) 14:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Review

Is there anyway you can look over Davenport, Iowa and if u feel like doing two, Iowa and tell me what i need to fix/improve to get it to GAC? I'm also asking User:Maclean25's opinion too, so if you could respond on the respective article talk pages...thanks Ctjf83 ^talk 02:09, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

how do i find the author, publisher, publishing date for web sites? Ctjf83 ^talk 19:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, if you don't mind, I'll refer any questions related to the article improvement to you Ctjf83 ^talk 20:07, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

oh, there is no problem linking the "sports" and "media" sections right to the Quad Cities sections, is there? Ctjf83 ^talk 20:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, for the references can you perhaps do the first one, by which i mean the first sentence of the second paragraph. I'm not sure the format to properly cite it, in regards to adding, publisher, date, and author Ctjf83 ^talk 03:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Have you seen my previous request? Ctjf83 ^talk 06:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, now I have something to go off of! Also, a user has suggested a map for the Quad Cities page, do you know where I can get one that isn't copyrighted? Ctjf83 ^talk 19:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I noticed the title doesn't show up in the ref section, like the publisher/date/url does. is the title suppose to show up? Ctjf83 ^talk 20:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

If you get a free minute, can you tell me if the Notable Natives and the Points of interest sections look better now? Also, what can I put in the media section instead of just linking it to the Quad Cities media section. As it is, the QC page is just a list anyway Ctjf83 ^talk 01:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I spent time at the library writing down stuff about neighborhoods, from a book that can't be checked out. Anyway, it only has stuff on historical neighborhoods, and 2 librarians said they don't have a book about all the neighborhoods in general. So with what I have, should i title the section "Historic Neighborhoods" or still title it "Neighborhoods"? Ctjf83 ^talk 22:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I have 15-20 neighborhoods, do you think that is gonna be enough, or should i try harder to find out more about other neighborhoods? I think it should be fine, as these are the historical ones. Ctjf83 ^talk 22:46, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

When you get a chance, can you skim over the neighborhoods section I added, and let me know how it looks Ctjf83^talk 20:39, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Who or what decides if something is too long. It does look long, but I mean are there standards set so I can keep other improvements in the length standards Ctjf83^talk 20:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Does the content of the section look good? Ctjf83^talk 20:59, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Done, do you think it is GA ready now? Ctjf83^talk 21:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Thats all the library had on neighborhoods, so I'm not sure where else to find sources. But I'll look for sources on the other stuff Ctjf83^talk 23:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

What kind of citation do i need for the natives section? just proof they are from Davenport or what? I'm not sure also, what kind of citations are needed for the events section, that is just stuff i know from living here. Ctjf83^talk 02:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

good question, that was on there before i started to update it, so i fixed it...also, is their wiki page not proof enough, i have to go and find reliable sources? Ctjf83^talk 02:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Damn! you're so strict! lol, but i know it is policy, and i easily found sources for all of them. Also, if you didn't notice, i expanded the government, sports, and media sections. Hopefully it is almost ready. Ctjf83^talk 03:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, what else do I need to do to get it GA rdy? Ctjf83^talk 00:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you fix 2 things for me, which I can't figure out...ref 20 has brackets [ ] on the ref section for some reason, and I don't know how to put title and publisher for number 12 Ctjf83^talk 01:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, and I'm not sure what else to add to sports, other than adding about the high schools...does it all look good enough now? Ctjf83^talk 01:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'll submit it...thank you very much for your help!!! We should undertake some more projects in the future! :) also, do you think History of Davenport, Iowa and Neighborhoods of Davenport, Iowa are GA ready already also? Ctjf83^talk 01:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Would you care to take a look at the lead now. it probably isn't the best, but what do you think? Ctjf83^talk 02:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Am I just suppose to summarize the rest of the history into a paragraph? Ctjf83^talk 02:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

You don't mind all these questions, do ya? if not, can you look at the new lead Ctjf83^talk 03:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again!

Thank you again for nominating me for adminship - as you probably noticed, it passed uncontested at 44-0. I'm gratified for the support from the community, and intend to use these shiny new buttons with great care for the betterment of Wikipedia. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 05:21, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Admin

Hi, I'd be happy to stand to be an admin. Could you nominate me? thanks, --Nick Dowling (talk) 07:44, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Would you consider nominating me for adminship again at some point?

I've got rid of all my Wikipedia essays, controversial and non-controversial, and am trying to do things as well as I possibly can. I'm planning to involve myself with areas of Wikipedia I haven't worked on before, but I can't think which would be best to start on. I'm well used to Articles for deletion, and it's one of my favourite things to do on Wikipedia, but I'd like to branch out more. Any suggestions?--h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 18:50, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

You already have more admin related experience than most RFA candidates, but if you want to expand your skills further, I suggest making more reports to WP:AIV, getting more involved in guideline discussions and Wikiprojects, and maybe recieve AdminCouching. The allowable time between RFAs is generally three months, and hopefully you'll be luckier at your next one. Before your last RFA was ended, there was starting to be a backlash against some of the harsh opposes, and I think if the RFA had kept going it would have been close to passing. Epbr123 (talk) 20:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Located

I see you have removed the word 'located' from a large number of articles including a number I have contributed to. Whilst this has not affected meaning in some cases or had only minor impact in others it has IMHO affected the intended emphasis so I have reverted these. I guess this is one of the perils of a wholesale adjustment but no worries I will adjust.Tmol42 (talk) 17:11, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin nomination

Thanks for the offer to nominate me, but as you've seen I'm more interested in writing & improving articles than some of the admin tasks (even though I know they are important). I'm not aware of any tools that being an admin would gain that would help me with - although its nice to have been asked.— Rod ^talk 23:15, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Long range TFA requests

Please see our discussion at Wikipedia talk:Long range TFA requests. Thanks, Sarsaparilla (talk) 05:20, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Kate Bush Wow Sample.ogg

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If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 06:27, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

GA reviewer comments

You seem to be the big GA review overseer so I would like to call your attention to [13]. I would also like to note that your GA Medal awardee was not as thorough as I would have liked at Dennis Franklin and Bob Timberlake, which I think could both have been written more thoroughly as holds. However, I should not gripe because neither of them is my best work. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

• More GA review: you requested a note when a reply was posted at Talk:Knut Arild Hareide#GAN review. Punkmorten (talk) 23:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Porn star articles and AfDs

I'm just interested, since you seem to be nominating so many porn star articles for deletion, are you a fan of pornography yourself? Or would you be interested in joining WikiProject Pornography? I'm not a member myself there, but I'm really glad you brought Christy Marks to my attention because she is smokin' hot.--h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 00:59, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I do quite a lot of work on pornography articles, but I don't tend to join projects. I wouldn't be suprised if Christy Marks eventually wins Score magazine Model of the Year, so her article will probably be able to be resurrected at some time. Epbr123 (talk) 01:09, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

She's kinda a bit like Nicole Peters, I guess, in that sense. You didn't answer my question, and you don't have to.--h i s ^s p a c e _{r e s e a r c h} 02:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin

Hi. Thank you for your message. At this time I'm not interested in becoming an administrator, but thank you for asking. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 05:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Sonatas and Interludes

Thanks for your note, Epbr123. The matter of numbers as words is contentious, and due for review at WP:MOS, where I edit a lot. My considered opinion is that the break should be at one hundred (at least as an option for articles), in accord with a practice sanctioned by major styles guides. I'll be arguing the case for this soon at MOS. Anyway, as I point out in my edit summary, exceptions are allowed for. Don't you think consistency and aesthetic considerations weigh heavily in this case?

Best wishes to you.

– Noetica^♬♩ Talk 04:54, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I admit, it did look a bit messy with the numeral. Epbr123 (talk) 03:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi, thank you for copyediting Reese Witherspoon. Have a nice day, PeaceNT (talk) 08:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Sonatas and Interludes

Hi - I just wanted to say thanks for your help on the article (which got promoted today!). Jashiin (talk) 09:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

GA Newsletter

Can you tell me who's the GA Reviewer of the Month? I'm stepping in for Derek Cashman as I believe he's busy or away. OhanaUnited^Talk page 02:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi! I'm back! =) Based on the updates you provided for each of the four weeks in December, this one's easy! I've got Dihydrogen Monoxide slated as the next reviewer of the month, having been listed as #1 for 3 out of the 4 weeks. You can see the newsletter pre-published here (I'm just waiting on some biographical details before publishing). Cheers! Dr. Cash (talk) 04:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks heaps for the award (again!) — Dihydrogen Monoxide 01:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Hello Epbr123, I hope you had a pleasant New Year's Day, and that 2008 brings further success, health and happiness! Hope to see around GAC and FAC again. Another big year of quality prose! ~ Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Moses Hardy

No disagreements here; thank you for the thorough review! I believe that I have addressed all of the points. Is there anything else that needs to be done? Cheers, CP 06:04, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 3

Thank you for your participation in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate that landed on WP:100, but ultimately was deemed a successful declaration of consensus, and I am now an admin. I definitely paid close attention to everything that was said in the debate, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holidays and all the off-wiki distractions. I'm working my way through the Wikipedia:New admin school, carefully double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools, with my main goals being to help out with various backlogs. I sincerely doubt you'll see anything controversial coming from my new access level. :) I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are a few more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status. If you do ever have any concerns about my activities as an administrator, I encourage you to let me know. My door is always open. Have a good new year, --Elonka 04:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Mercury Hayes GA on Hold

I have responded to most of your comments as well as those given by a second opinion from another editor.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 20:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for passing Mercury Hayes and for your editorial contributions toward that end. I thought I would let you know that I had to do several parts of the updating process myself ([14], [15] and [[16]). Please try to be careful with the process because not all editors are as experienced with the process as I am. However, I appreciate your extensive participation in the copy editing of an article you were reviewing so you probably could say the same to me.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I should note that for your copy editing I offer you this thanks:

This user helped promote Mercury Hayes to good article status.

--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry about my forgetfulness/laziness regarding the processing. Though, for future reference, a bot is able to fill in the oldid in the Article History, as long as the pass date and time is given. Epbr123 (talk) 18:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I also noticed that you did not adjust Template:GA number. You may want to do this on future promotions as well.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

A bot updates that as well :) Epbr123 (talk) 18:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Stop being a porn-obsessed stalker

It's not exactly reasonable or appropriate for you to remove speedies from crappy, unsourced articles that don't assert notability with phony claims of "possible significant coverage." What, I proposed getting rid of the article on your favorite plastic-chested sex worker? Get over it. VivianDarkbloom (talk) 23:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't make personal attacks. Whatever did this editor human being, do to deserve such a judgemental diatribe from you? Seraphim ^Whipp 02:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I left a message on VivianDarkbloom's talk page to this effect earlier. Hopefully she'll realize that she's in the wrong here with her tone and refactor/apologize. LaMenta3 (talk) 02:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully. I can understand if someone's having a bad day and they might tell someone to "F-off" (which is impersonal), but this attack is personal and so very nasty. Seraphim ^Whipp 11:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Chewbacca Defense

We should christen Dekkappai's use of guideline nullification for defending anything related to Japanese porn as the Dekkapai Defense. Vinh1313 (talk) 02:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• Te he. I'd love to see an argument between him and VivianDarkbloom. Epbr123 (talk) 03:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Actually I've voted to delete articles on Japanese porn at least four times, and nominated one, and I know of another (not now up for AfD) which I would have voted to deleted should it come up for AfD, had better faith been shown from the nominators. In the spirit of Good faith, I had assumed up till now that the cultural bias was only unintentional. Dekkappai (talk) 21:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
    • As I said below, you need to campaign to remove any cultural bias from the guidelines. I'm very in favour of removing cultural bias; I've never AfDed a non-English speaking porn star. Epbr123 (talk) 21:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
      • Right-- I wasn't addressing that statement to you, Epbr123. (Actually, I'd only peeked in here to see if you'd gotten an apology from the editor above.) Dekkappai (talk) 21:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
• One more thing: I'm glad Vinh1313 brought the Chewbacca defense to our attention. This points out the clear bias I've been talking about, and not just cultural. A quote from one episode of a current U.S. cartoon-- not just the episode itself, but the quote-- proudly sports its own unassailable article here on English Wiki because it's got a large fan-base to protect it. (I wonder how many title cards from a 1922 Felix the Cat cartoon have their own article...) Meanwhile, Japanese actresses whose faces (etc.) can be seen in shops all over that country fight to get one mention here. Dekkappai (talk) 21:49, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes, there is a bias towards modern subjects, mainly due to the increased availability of sources. But regarding Japanese actresses, remember there's a difference between fame and notability; if an actress has never been written about, is it possible for them to have an encyclopedic article? Epbr123 (talk) 22:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Well, that's what's so frustrating. These people get very wide coverage and high visibility in Japan. Much more so than comparable U.S. actresses. Yet, unless we're there, it's nearly impossible to track down the sourcing. I'll keep working on the subject though. I disagree that the only reason these subjects are covered is sourcing though. Current popularity in the English-speaking world, and current, English-speaking fan-base is what plays the major role in whether a subject is covered here, and in what is safe from deletion. For an extreme example, take a look at the deletion discussion at the talk page for han. Imagine a similar discussion taking place at Korean wiki about "The Blues"... "Do 'The Blues' exist? I've never heard of them... Anyone know of a Korean source that mentions 'The Blues'... and even if it exists, how important is it to African-American culture? I've never heard of it... can't be very important... Delete' Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 22:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
      • I agree it's not right that there's nothing in WP:BIO to counteract English bias. Although, as the Japanese Wikipedia grows, it will eventually become easier for Western based editors to locate sources on Japanese subjects; they'll then just need to be translated. Epbr123 (talk) 22:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Co-ordinates?

Hello Epbr123, I hope all is well,

I seem to remember you once advocated the inclusion of geographic co-ordinates mid prose for Geography sections of place articles. I believe you pointed to WP:CITIES standards. Was this ever codified? Eitherway, do you think it should be added to WP:UKCITIES? I was prompted to ask as they were removed from Wormshill earlier today. -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I think we're singing from the same song sheet then. Having seen them used on a world-wide basis, I too think they should go in the prose - its a verifiable bite of info that is useful (I believe). I'll post a note at WP:UKCITIES talk and take it from there. Thanks for the contact, -- Jza84 · (talk) 01:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. They should be there. I have just done a Wormshill edit, and was concerned at the way that coord dms was followed in plain text by one in dec format. In the process Wormshill had changed hemispheres! No reference to Grid refs. I have written a convertor utility that converts gridrefs to gridref + coord dms, using Haworths algorithms, and there is a discrepancy due to OSGB36 WGS84. This does need to be discussed for consistency and accuracy. Also in Wormshill infobox we see a ten figure gridreference- ie 1 m accuracy- when 100 meter accuracy is appropriate for cityscale. There is a lively debate on these issues at Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. I think these should be consulted before any policy change application is made. My personal preference for UK articles is the system adopted in River Bourne, Kent as its easy on the eye and many UK source reference books already give the 6 figure grid ref.ClemRutter (talk) 01:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Pavillon de Flore

Hi, thanks for the Pavillon de Flore GAN review. I will address the issues you mentioned and let you know when finished. Thx for the review again,Lazulilasher (talk) 03:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I have addressed your comments and made changes to the article as well as added a few more refs. So, I am looking forward to your additional suggestions. Additionally, I will add a few more citations throughout the day. Lazulilasher (talk) 16:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

RE PvF History, third paragraph, line before last: "a 7 kilometres (4 mi) straight line". Should not "kilometre" end w/o "s"? Frania W. (talk) 15:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

RE removal of unnecessary "s": Merci beaucoup ! Frania W. (talk) 16:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

GAN suggestion

Hi Epbr, just pinging you re: the discussion at GAN. I recently suggested an overhaul of the templates and system used to organize GANs. You expressed earlier that you don't think the present system is overly complex. I disagree, and think that my proposal would make the process vastly easier for at least some (potential) editors, without any downside. Could you take a look and comment on it? Thanks! -Pete (talk) 19:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

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Tera Wray

I'm most impressed with what you've done, but even more impressed that you did it in less than 2.5 hours! Pdfpdf (talk) 03:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Good heavens you're quick! Pdfpdf (talk) 12:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

		The "Patience of Job" Barnstar
		I'm giving you this barnstar because of your incredible patience and politeness in dealing with mis-guided editors. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you, I appreciate it. Epbr123 (talk) 11:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Ho hum. "One can but try ... ". Pdfpdf (talk) 12:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Anti-nuclear movement in Australia

Hi Epbr, Wanted to thank you again for your thoughtful review of The Clean Tech Revolution. And to mention that Anti-nuclear movement in Australia has been sitting at WP:GAN for a while now. If you happen to get a chance to review it that would be appreciated. If so, I'd be happy to go on hold again and then try to make suggested improvements... Johnfos (talk) 23:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

RE:Admin

Wow, thanks. I would actually would like that. I never though of being admin much but it can really help around the site. Thanks! --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 01:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm satisfied with what it has. You can start it now, please. Thanks! --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 03:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

GA Review of Pavillon de Flore

Hi, thanks for taking the time to review the article and leaving your suggestions (and doing your own copyediting!). It's greatly appreciated! Lazulilasher (talk) 14:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Rudget!

Dear Epbr123, my sincere thanks for your support in my second request for adminship, which ended with 113 supports, 11 opposes, and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank my admin coach and nominator, Rlevse and Ryan Postlethwaite who in addition to Ioeth all inspired me to run for a second candidacy. I would also like to make a special mention to Phoenix-wiki, Dihyrdogen Monoxide and OhanaUnited who all offered to do co-nominations, but I unfortunately had to decline. I had all these funny ideas that it would fail again, and I was prepared for the worst, but at least it showed that the community really does have something other places don't. Who would have though Gmail would have been so effective? 32 emails in one week! (Even if it does classify some as junk :P) I'm glad that I've been appointed after a nail biting and some might call, decision changing RFA, but if you ever need anything, just get in touch. The very best of luck for 2008 and beyond, Rudget. 16:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: being an admin

Hi Epbr123, thank you for asking, but I think not. I do enjoy my current level of involvement, which might soon abate owing to a new semester, teaching responsibilities, painting, etc. Plus, I've seen what good administrators do, and I am not qualified. But I am flattered. Thanks so much. Cheers, JNW (talk) 20:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Admin

I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try. For all I know, I may make a fine admin, and the worst that will happen is that I will find out I'm not ready yet, and would have to wait for someone else to suggest me (I would never put myself up; I feel adminship is something that should be given, not asked for). From what I understand, failing an admin vote doesn't mean you can never become one, so I don't mind giving it a shot; it doesn't cost me anything and I may learn something. HalfShadow (talk) 20:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. This should be interesting. HalfShadow (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Admin

You seem to be quite good at this :D. I would love to be nominated for adminship (like HalfShadow above, I don't believe that self-nominations should be allowed). However, the next week is possibly the worst time in my editing career to start an RFA!! I will be delighted to accept your nomination on or after Thursday 24th :D. Thanks very much for the offer. Happy‑melon 22:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

...Shiny...

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		Good work with the vandals, keep it up. :) Tiptoety ^talk 00:49, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Epbr123 (talk) 00:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing, everyone deserves recognition for the good work they do hear, and i think you recognize other users more than anyone with all of your adminship nominations. Cheers, Tiptoety ^talk 01:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Alexf

Hi. I just wondered if you've considered becoming an admin. You seem experienced enough, so I'd be happy to nominate you if you're interested. Regards. Epbr123 (talk) 19:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I have thought about it. I think I can provide a good service as an Admin. I would be happy to start in the process. Thanks. -- Alexf^(Talk/Contribs) 19:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I have answered the questions and accepted the nomination. Thank you again and I am available to answer any further questions. -- Alexf^(Talk/Contribs) 01:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which which passed with 40 support, 9 oppose, and 6 neutral. Thanks for nominating me! Alexf^(Talk/Contribs) 02:35, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008

Please accept my apologizes!!! So sorry! This is what came up:

Stan Marsh matched Sucks, Queer . . Epbr123 (talk | uw-test | uw-vand | contribs | block) . . (Reverted edits by 99.243.77.253 to last version by 64.149.189.229) . . show details . . [rollback].

Sent it to the wrong guy! Sorry :( ! Ohmpandya (Talk to Me...) 23:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

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RfA noms

Out of curiosity, what is your RfA nom pass/fail rate? ^Avruchtalk 23:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

• 14 passes, 4 fails. I don't really mind about the pass rate; I don't want to limit myself to nominating dead-certs. Epbr123 (talk) 23:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Well I'd recommend you do mind about the pass rate. This isn't a game. Nominate people who you sincerely believe will pass, and for good reason. I'm sorry, but your relentless nominations are now putting me of your candidates, which is a bad thing. A nomination is not "I want to chalk up another nomination". A nomination is "Wow- this editors great - they could really use the extra buttons to help the project". Sorry, but I see the former in your nominations so far. Pedro :  Chat  23:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

All I can do is assure you that this is a misunderstanding. Epbr123 (talk) 23:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, that didn't come across the way I meant it to and apologies. I appreciate that you are in good faith trying to help by nominating candidates for adminship to overall further the work. But you are experienced at RfA and know who is likely to pass or not. If a candidate has weaknesses it's better to advise them to address those weaknesses and nominate in another month rather than taking a chance now. Also, candidates with glaring holes in their experience will find adminship tricky and controversial if they then get involved in those areas with the extra tools, so it's best for them too. Best wishes as ever of course. Pedro :  Chat  08:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up. Although, candidates are allowed to have holes in their experience, especially if they don't intend to work in that area. For example, you have little article writing or XfD experience, but that didn't harm your RfA. I know the Twibe RfA is an issue, but I believe that either he meant he would work at AfD only once he was ready, or that he only made the comment to make himself seem more rounded. I nominated him as a potential vndal-fighting admin; I didn't expect him to say he would get involved in AfD. Epbr123 (talk) 11:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your offer of admin nom

I've thought about it, but this is a bad time. Perhaps at some future date, although I shudder at what people who go through RfAs have to endure. Deor (talk) 02:15, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok

My editing has always been thoroughly content driven, but now and then something unrelated to content happens and I'm reminded how I could save someone time if I had a mop. Moreover, I'm sometimes approached by editors who need help and think I'm an admin. So, since there is a need for more active sysops with long experience here, I'd be happy to stand for an RfA at this time. Cheers. Gwen Gale (talk) 17:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I guess it's ready to go. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Tel Aviv

Hi, I listed Tel Aviv for a peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Tel Aviv. I saw you are interested in cities and so have contacted you to see whether you might consider helping with this. I have contacted two other users as well. Many thanks in advance.--Flymeoutofhere (talk) 20:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA talk archive

Thanks for helping me out there, very much appreciated. Cheers, Spebi 21:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Tireless contributor barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		From countless minor and not so minor article contributions, to GA reviews, to multiple Featured Articles, to large quantities of mostly successful admin nominations... very impressive large body of varied useful contributions. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 21:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Another barnstar. I know you don't post them, but I hope you will appreciate the thought. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 21:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you, I do appreciate it. Epbr123 (talk) 23:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you

Hello Epbr123, I just wanted to say thank you for continually bringing good candidates to RfA: you're doing a great job. Keep it up! :) Acalamari 00:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Offer of admin nom

Just in case you don't have my talk page on watch, I've replied to your offer over there.  —SMALLJIM  12:06, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I've completed the standard questions, awaiting the onslaught :-).  —SMALLJIM  14:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

And now, thanking you one last time. I will always consider that I passed with 26.3,0,0 (see the neutral)! Best wishes.  —SMALLJIM  09:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Hey there, I'm writing to inform you that I have withdrawn my request for adminship, which was currently standing at 11 supports, 22 opposes and 6 neutrals. This count could have been so much better if I had understood policy, although I believe that 17 questions is a lot to ask of a user's first RfA. I will take on all comments given at the RfA and will endeavour to meet the high expectations of the RfA voters. _{WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN}^play it cool. 21:00, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Final Warning

Excuse me, you can't issue someone a final warning if they haven't vandalised since their first warning. I received the first warning after I had performed several acts of vandalism, but since I hadn't been warned I didn't realise I wasn't suppose to do it. Having been warned once I decided to stop, so there's no need for that. If I vandalise again, then feel free to issue a final warning, but until then lay off! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beenmore (talk • contribs) 21:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

• According to this and this, you vandalised twice after receiving your first warning. Epbr123 (talk) 21:50, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

"Approximately" is verboten?

Hi there, I was just wondering why your cleanups have replaced numerous instances of the word "approximately" with "about". Is there something wrong with "approximately"? It seems a perfectly good word to me, and is in fact more precise in describing a distance as being... uh... approximate... than "about". :) Cheers, DWaterson (talk) 22:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

A common complaint at WP:FAC is that the word approximately is awkward and overly formal. Although, after recieving your message, I now realise this is quite a subjective opinion, so I will likely refrain from making the same changes in future. Epbr123 (talk) 00:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see. OK, thanks for the reply. :) DWaterson (talk) 00:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Adminship, RFA etc.

Thank you very much for offering to nominate me for adminship; I had been considering self-nominating since Christmas as I've been helping out as much as possible at WP:SCV. Consequently, I would like to accept your offer of a nomination.

However, I may be busy over the next day or two and so I would rather wait 48-72 hours so that I can give it my full attention. If you could do your bit and let me know I will accept and transclude when I am ready.

Thanks again, CIreland (talk) 00:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Admin

Thanks for the consideration. I was considered earlier but declined which I'm afraid I must also do at this time. Real life gets in the way too many times and I don't have the time to devote fully to being an admin. Maybe down the road. Thanks again. Nice to know that someone notices. ----Ðysepsion † ^Speak your mind 03:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Admins

Trying to break my record of most total nominations huh? :P Wizardman 00:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

• No, not at all. What is it by the way? ;) Epbr123 (talk) 00:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Heh, mine is I believe 36 including rfas currently up. AFAIK I hold it, but I'm slowing down of late since I don't seem to be picking candidates as well. Wizardman 00:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

That's some great work. I hope you get back on form soon; it's a shame to think of the potential good admins going unnoticed. Epbr123 (talk) 00:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Jolean Wejbe

Yes, you are right, I changed it to the right tag. This was my first personally nominated article for deletion, was figuring out the proper tagging. I appreciate the heads-up.Gwynand (talk) 18:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Somerset FAC

Unfortunately there has been a problem with FAC (possibly due to transcluded pages/templates & overall page size). As a result several nominations, including Somerset, have had to be restarted and I have been informed that all previous commentary (both supporting and opposing), including yours is void. As a result would you be kind enough to review the page and place any comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Somerset. Thanks— Rod ^talk 19:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments moved on my RFA page

User:SlimVirgin has removed many comments from my RFA page. I think I object to this for many reasons. Can something be done to put them back where they were? Thanks. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Although I think much context was lost by the moves, it may be more helpful to leave it for now. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA

Okay, I think I'll have enough time for the next few week to deal with an RFA. What's the process? Also, thank you for thinking of me; I'm curious what brought me to your attention? --Lquilter (talk) 19:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Can I echo everything Lquilter just said? I also think I now have the time to manage an RfA. Thanks again for considering me. Happy‑melon 12:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've completed the questions and the acceptance field. Does it look OK? Happy‑melon 15:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Mainpage date

Hi, Epbr. Someone inquired a while back, and I forgot to check, thanks to all the fun I was having in early January. Are you still updating the mainpage dates as Raul assigns them? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:01, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

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