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Hi, I deleted Peter leeds, with the lower cased L. Not sure how it slipped through but it was a spam/vanity piece that started: "As North America's leading expert on penny stocks, Peter Leeds is frequently contacted by top media organizations like the Associated Press, NBC, CBS, and CNNfn for his comments and views. He helps investors understand and benefit from penny stocks."
Hello! How are you! Yes the Chinos are part of the society, but the picture is only stating them, what about the other mexican people. The reason i change the picture is because it is giving a misleading information about Mexican etiquettes. The majority of Mexican people do not practice oriental etiquettes. Every body knows that, I'm simply using commonknowledge here. The oriental population in the country is relatively small compare to the vast majority of local born true blood Mexicans. We Mexican people practised European and native etiquettes. Our behaviours, way of thinking is totally different to the Oriental people. thanks!! --Ramirez05:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
It's been more-or-less determined that this internet meme is nn long, long ago. It's no more notable than the Adam West Batman gif where he's carrying a bomb, or Pokeymans. - A Link to the Past(talk)00:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the info. It is greatly apperciated.(Thedjatclubrock)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedjatclubrock (talk • contribs) 02:29, 12 June 2007
You're quite welcome. That's why I put it for discussion rather than just doing it. Always good to see if there's any good reasons for doing things differently. It's not as if there's any rush or anything! —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 04:03, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate that and it is all done except we could do with some better stamp album images though I already added two but would prefer better ones. Cheers & thanks. ww2censor04:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Elipongo. I'm curious why you are using the typeface specimen for the face Andreas on the Ellington article's infobox. Thanks. CApitol313:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello. Thanks for pointing that out. I had implemented an infobox that the editor who had started the page had left commented out and hadn't looked at the images that were there closely. I've removed the erroneous images, if you've got correct ones, feel free to add them in! —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 01:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
B. c. or born circa
Hello!
Well, my thought was just to use the same system as on most other year articles. Secondly, I didn't think it would cause any confusion, since there's a space between the letters and they occur before the year and the BC notion can be found after it, as in b. c. 300 BC. But, of course, if this system is undesirable, it shouldn't be used. /Ludde23TalkContrib14:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Pound it. It's not spam; just giving people a different point of view. Go ahead and ban me. I'll just use another IP. Go ahead and ban the site. It's not mine. Dildo!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.41.187.247 (talk • contribs) 18:43, 21 June 2007
Thank you for telling me that, though it was already obvious from the recent editing history. I suppose then that it will be easier to just simply blacklist the URL... Cheers!—Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 18:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Two can play this game. They'll have to protect every page you edit after I get through.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.41.187.247 (talk • contribs) 20:49, 21 June 2007
Ah, but I'm far from the only one watching those pages. You would be better advised to make constructive edits to the encyclopedia. For example, add some cited material to the criticism section of the Ameriprise Financial article. Or find some other article that interests you and add something constructive to it. Simple links to self-published attack sites do not have a place here. Thanks for your understanding. —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 20:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you Alison. I wonder which IP s/he'll use next? It's all easy enough to fix anyway, but it is nice to not have to play whack-a-mole for a bit and be able to do other stuff on here. —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 21:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
proof
I am not a sockpuppet and you don't have proof. Yes I was leaving notes on user mater whatevers userpage because this user was new and asked me to make a userbox. Swirlex16:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes there is a list of recent edits. Firstly you can click on Recent changes in the column that's on the left side of every page. Also, as a registered user, you have what's called a watchlist, which keeps track of just the special pages you're interested in. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 23:55, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
You could mean five different things by that, I'll try to answer all five- please forgive me if I tell you something you already know.
To see ALL the most recent edits to ALL the articles on Wikipedia, click on the "Recent changes" link in the left hand column on any page.
To see just the recent edits to a particular article/page, click on the "history" tab at the top of the page.
To see recent edits on articles you have "on watch", click on the "my watchlist" link at the top right of your screen.
To see the recent edits of a particular editor, go to that editor's user page or user talk page and click on the "User contributions" link in the left hand column of the page.
To see your own recent edits, click on the "my contributions" link at the top right of your screen.
I have never edited your user page. The images were removed by The Raven's Apprentice (talk·contribs) here. I can, however, explain the reason they were removed. The images are all copyrighted and are the property of the person or company that owns the copyright. They can't be used without the owner's permission except under very limited circumstances. Using them on userpages is not one of those limited circumstances and the policy is very clear about that— Wikipedia could be sued in court if we use things that belong to others improperly. Hope this clears up your concerns. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 20:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
If you really think the template is useless feel free to delete it. Although it was not intended to be a new stub type!!! Next time I will do more research or consult a admin etc. Sorry for any trouble If you have any questions contact me. I have no intent to vandalize wikipedia. Thedjatclubrock :)10:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. I see you read my comments on Valentinian's talk page. I think useless was a poor choice of words on my part, I termed it redundant in the deletion discussion and I think that's more accurate. I realize that you didn't really mean it to be a new stub type, but it essentially functioned as one even if it wasn't called that. As the saying goes, "If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then it's a duck."
And I have to agree with them removing it from the articles to be replaced by the correct stub templates. The stub templates and their associated categories are used by many editors looking for stubs to expand; nobody but you really knew about your template and category which sort of defeats the purpose of the thing.
I was actually going to let you take some knocks and use it as a learning experience; that is until I saw the references to vandalism and blocks. Knowing you better than they do, I decided to explain things before it became a bigger problem. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings with those explanations, but I needed to be blunt to forestall things getting worse.
When I first got to seriously editing around here, I often spent more time reading up on policies and guidelines than actually editing. I STILL look them up regularly to make sure I'm doing things right. For example, before I removed the speedy deletion tag from that song article, I read up on the policy to make sure I was allowed to do so and under what circumstances. Just like everything else on Wikipedia, these things can be changed sometimes from the last time you looked, so it always pays to look again. In the welcome template I gave you there are links to pretty much everything you need to know. You don't need to read it all at once— I sure didn't!— but you should look things up as needed. There are a lot of people here trying to work together to create the encyclopedia, and sometimes people can get upset at what other editors do. This won't be the last dispute you get into here, most everyone gets into them every once in a while. You should read the resolving disputes policy so you know how to proceed for next time.
Anyways, don't let this get you turned off to Wikipedia. As you learn your way around, things will go smoother. Lots of editors have much rougher starts than yours, believe it or not! Be well and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 20:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
No problem
I contacted Grutness and (S)he was ok with my explanation. The template will be deleted. Looking at it now it was just a vauge stub.(Just like the {{stub}} tag). As for the song, I should read some more before making new articles. Thanks for the help, Thedjatclubrock :)(talk)01:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I really didn't understand recent changes. I missed it on my screen and when I clicked on your link it went to a help page.
As for finding the recent changes, I could put a link here but this conversation will automatically be archived in a month and besides the link is already on every single page of the encyclopedia. Here's how to find it:
Scroll up to the very top of the page.
In the top left corner of the page you'll see the Wikipedia logo— a globe made out of puzzle pieces with various scripts' letters on it.
Under the logo, you'll find a number of links arranged into three groups.
The first group is called "navigation" and it has five links under it. Move down to the next group.
The second group is labeled "interaction" and it has seven links under it.
The link "Recent changes" is the third link down in that group.
I recently edited that the Amazon is now worlds longest river at 6,800km compared to Niles 6,695km which you seem to disagree with.On a recent expidition scientists discovered a new starting point in the south of Peru on an ice covered mountain called Mismi.Guido Gelli(director of science at Brazil institute of geography) confirmed this.The research was co-ordinated by the National Geographic Institute of Brazil.Having the Nile as longest is inaccurate and not very constructive of you leaving it as.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccee (talk • contribs) 18:53, 27 June 2007
Yes, I know. You might want to check the discussion at Talk:River#Amazon the longest?. It would have made things less complicated to start with if you had provided the citation yourself in the first place, but I found it myself and started a discussion because there doesn't seem to be perfect agreement as of yet. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 18:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
new to this and wasnt sure how...dont seem to able to respond to that article anyway..—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccee (talk • contribs) 19:17, 27 June 2007
I understand. Reading some of the links that are in the welcome message I placed on your talk page should help you immensely. On this issue specifically, changes— especially ones that are likely to be controversial— need to provide a citation from a reliable source. The sources I found seem to indicate that there isn't consensus among geographers for this as of yet, so I put it to the article's talk page to see what the community thought was the correct course of action. Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions. Thanks for writing and enjoy your time on Wikipedia. —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 19:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey there. I'm in a revert war with a vandal, who may or may not be using good faith. The article is Commerce Bancorp and the user is CAMDENBEER
Earlier this week he was adding a couple statemants that failed NPOV in my opinion. Recently he added information about the CEO resigning, which I incorrectly removed at first. Apon further research, I found that some of that information was correct, and I moved it to it's own section of the page under the header Commerce Bank Scandals.
The point is, this user wants to continue to edit war the NPOV statements like political pawn and whatnot, which clearly is opinion unless he can find a source that uses that exact phrase.
Please look into the article and the most recent edits. I admit incoorectly removing some information this morning, but I re-added it at the bottom of the page when I realized it was fact and was currently in the news.
Do whatever you feel needs to be done about the article and as always, I will respect your judgement.
Thedjatclubrock :)(talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
The following was posted in the disputed images page in response to your query:
The Howard Frank Archives has been in business for over thirty years as an image archive and supplier of images to major publications and other media outlets. We have aproximately 1 million images in our inventory. Mostly in the entretainment industry. The bulk of the collection was at one time the property of Louis "doc" Shurr, Mr. Howard Frank's cousin and a respected Hollywood agent whose clients included, Bob Hope, Kim Novak, Ginger Rogers, Burt Lahr, Betty Grable, Debbie Reynolds, George Murphy, Andy Devine, Broderick Crawford, Larry Hagman, Barbara Eden among many others.
We have been major contributors of images to major books on Hollywood personalities. Including:
Lucy : A Life in Pictures by Tim Frew and Howard Frank Archives/Personality Photos Staff
Dreaming of Jeannie: TV's Prime Time in a Bottle by Stephen Cox and Howard Frank
Ball of Fire, Lucille Ball By Stefan Kanfer
Loving Lucy By Bart Andrews and Thomas Watson
Lucy & Desi By Warren G. Harris
The "I LOve Lucy" Book By Bart Andrews
Elvis, A life in pictures By Tim Frew
Lucille: The Life of Lucille Ball By Kathleen Brady
The Century By Peter Jennings and Tom Brewster
You can do a search on Google, Amazon.com or Barnes and Noble to confirm our claims.
And many many other publications and magazines. Our clients include all major television networks such as CBS, ABC, NBC, E Entretainment, E!, PBS and others. Major publications such as TV Guide, People, US, Time Magazine, Newsweek, Globe, The enquirer, Reader's Digest, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Harvard Medical Journal, Scientific American, Ladies Home Journal and many others too numerous to mention here. We have never had our right to rent or use these images disputed. As with any large inventory such as ours, it is possible that we may inadvertently by accident have posted an image to which someone may claim intellectual property rights. In such cases we will be more than willing to comply in removing such an image provided the standard provisions are met as stated below by contacting our intellectual property rights department
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You may reach our Intellectual Property Rights Agent, via email at sales@personalityphotos.com
Reply to Your reply has been poster on the other thread as well
Since only the owner of the copyright can assign the license, you are asserting that you are yourself the copyright holder of these images- including a couple of images that seem could actually be in the public domain.
Our images come in several categories. We have the negatives to most of the images in our inventory. In other cases we have the "Master Negatives" or in the case of other images the in-camera chromes from which they are printed. In some cases we have the only known original prints of the images. Until 1990 most studios discarded rather than archived massive amounts of imgaes literaly in the garbage. Thus most images taken during that period are lost to history except in cases where collectors like howard Frank through family contacts and friends acquired many of them. Being that we have the onl;y images in many of these cases we do claim copyright ownership of them. We have selectively uploaded imgaes of which we are sure of the provenance.
Wikipedia has no interest in you removing images from your collection, but now that they are on Wikipedia's servers, Wikipedia has liability if a copyright holder should protest their being released under a free license.
Wikipedia has no liabilty since they are neither the owners nor the source of the images, we are. We have a procedure as does Corbis or Getty for settling claims to Intelectual property claims as stipulated in my previous post.
Wikipedia needs to be assured that you indeed hold the rights to these images.
That does not present a problem, we can issue a standard open ended release of our images to Wikipedia as we do to television broadcasters, publications and other entities that use our images. They can keep it on file and forward copies to whoever "claims" to be the copyright holder of the image. All we need is an e-mail address where to send a signed PDF document release. Be aware that claiming to be the copyright holder and actually posessing such rights are two distinct things. Corporate lawyers will often issue threatening letters claiming intelectual property rights. They mainly do this to discourage legitimate use of images in an editorial or fair use context and in order to attempt to control the editorial context in which these images appear.. That is why we require as do the courts extensive documentation to back up such claims. After thirty plus years in this business we have yet to appear in court to dispute any of our images.--PersonalityPhotos04:24, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Swirlex
I think I can clear up the situation with Swirlex. First of all, most of these people he just found when searching userspace to get ideas of things to add to his userpage. Marvelzombies, Dreamrelease2245, and I are people he personally knows. He's probably gonna kill me for telling you this, but I can explain the Zapsteel thing. He was Swirlex's original account. Then it got hacked and someone changed th password. He doesn't have e-mail, so there was no way he could retrieve the account. Think of Swirlex as the reincarnation, not sockpuppet, of Zapsteel. Supernerd 1023:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC) P.S. My PA was an expiriment to see how long I could do if I were blocked. I didn't know that I could just ask a sysop.
I'd like to know the answer to that as well, since the guy signed my name on his comment. And all of this still seems a bit sockpuppet-like to me. So, please, explain. -- -- Gravitan22:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't be too sure of that. What's bugging me now is that you claim to know about Zapsteel, yet I don't recall Swirlex ever telling you that. And you couldn't have gotten that info through E-mail, since (according to you) Swirlex doesn't have an account. Would you mind explaining that? -- -- Gravitan23:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay, but that still doesn't explain the things brought up on Swirlex's talk page. And if you're hiding something, keep in mind that we'll find out eventually, whether you tell us or not. So do you have anything else? -- -- Gravitan21:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I mean the sockpuppet thing. Things like that are grounds for blocking, and Swirlex has yet to even attempt to explain what's been going on. -- -- Gravitan19:13, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I can see why that would seem suspicious. I suppose you'll just have to assume good faith. That IP is suspicious though, and you should prabably report him. Supernerd 1019:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Why did I delete the 'please add a free image' image?
It's tacky and draws attention away from the content of the article. A request for an image can be placed on the article's talk page. If a prospective image uploader doesn't know how to read a talk page, they probably shouldn't be uploading files in the first place. One23:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Userbox
I'm trying to modify it not to mess up everybody's, but I can't perfect it. I'm not trying to screw everyone's up, just trying to modify them Sarah Goldberg18:55, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Why thank you very much! It's always nice to get positive feedback, and it also made me realize that I had forgotten to sign that post! Hm. I missed the fact that it is a blocked sockpuppet account though... 15:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
wot r u tryin' 2 start?,i seen tht u wrote shit bout me on Acalamari's page wen i've done nuthin' wrong,all i did was set up a new account and i've never vandalised anythin' - Real Compton G18:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm not trying to start anything. If you read what I wrote you'll see that I did say that you haven't committed any violations since and that the violation of policy by creating another account while the first one was blocked may have been done out of ignorance of the rules. Since Acalamari was the blocking and the unblocking admin, I thought s/he should know about it. I have no intention of hurting your feelings. Thanks for your understanding and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 18:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
just 2 let u kno,i actually created this account b4 i was blocked,not wen i was blocked,but anyway how did u kno tht Compton G Playa was blocked ? Real Compton G18:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
You're right and I'm sorry. I must have had my eyes crossed when I was looking at the logs. I have updated my note on Acalamari's talk page.
I was able to tell when you were blocked and when your accounts were created by checking their respective logs. There're links to those logs from your contribution history pages.
As for having multiple accounts, you really should read this policy regarding them.
I'm not very happy with this guy's edits: it seems like the only reason he's adding the content is so that he can get his site linked instead of blacklisted. The writing style leaves something to be desired, as well -- it's going to require a lot of cleanup.--SarekOfVulcan00:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, I had forgotten to reply to his latest email, a situation which I just corrected diff. I would tend to agree with your assessment of the situation, but I have been trying hard to WP:AGF especially since he has been discussing things calmly. If the pattern doesn't stop shortly, though, I would agree that stronger measures may be in order. —Elipongo (Talkcontribs) 01:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
