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Note that the change requires rewording, since the Definitions section still refers to examples "above". More to the point, the examples are useful in motivating the definitions, which are rather abstract and hard to understand by themselves. That is why I originally had the examples first.
I accept your other modifications, but would prefer to see this one reversed. I hope to hear from you soon. Johsebb (talk) 19:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
It is indeed just my opinion. I think the standard and encyclopedic way is to define something first and to motivate or describe it second. (The opposite order seems more pedagogical, which is fine for either teaching very well-established stuff or giving a talk, but in writing it seems a little demeaning.)
I believe that the new order is going to lose people immediately. The abstract definition assumes a lot of background, and that background needs some exposition before the definition. I don't see anything demeaning about this.
Take a look, for instance, at Lie_algebra. It gives an example before going to the abstract definition. I'm sure there are other examples in Wikipedia.
I ask that you restore the original order (and wording) but maybe tag the article so that I can hear other opinions about this. Johsebb (talk) 03:03, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions to Aliasing (factorial experiments). Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because Needs editorial assistance from WikiProject Mathematics.
Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.
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Bryce Maximus James
You missed the point of my CSD. Bryce Maximus James and Bryce James are the same exact person. And Bruce James was a redirect to Lebron James. To me that is duplicating a subject. But if you don’t care that someone is recreating the topic, why should I care? BostonMensa (talk) 00:15, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for the edits on the HEVR page, they were generally an improvement. That said, why did you feel that removing the internal links is an improvement? I'm not as experienced an editor as you are, but I feel like they made the article better. Hope to hear from you. DoktorScience (talk) 22:35, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
@DoktorScience: On Wikipedia, we usually avoid putting external links in running prose, saving them for either the references section or a dedicated "External links" section. See Wikipedia:External links for the official text of this policy. If you have any other suggestions on improving the High explosive violent reaction article (note that the topic's out of my field of expertise, but I can try nevertheless), I would be happy to hear them anyways! Duckmather (talk) 00:31, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for the explanation. I was not aware of that policy and will follow it from now on. It's a small thing, but I do think those external links helped make the article better. As I'd just created the article on Saturday, if you'd let me know of that policy on my Talk page, or the HEVR talk page, I would have made the change by adding an "External link" section, or you could have created an external link section. Simply deleting all the links makes it more work for whomever puts in the time to put them back in the proper place. That said, thank you, your other edits were also helpful. DoktorScience (talk) 23:00, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
@JASpencer: Hello (and warning: this is a much longer reply than I initally envisioned)! I tend to gravitate towards the articles listed there that have a substantial amount of prose (which I can verify in a single click using the Wikipedia:Prosesize gadget). If the article qualifies, I remove the stub tag, and often I do some tagging or minor cleanup in the same edit as well if I notice any issues (such as capitalized headers or whatnot). I also rerate the article on its talk page if needed. Furthermore, I also tend to work from the top of the list downwards (though the list is long enough that I usually don't get past the top ~50 by the time it refreshes).
This comment suggests a complementary strategy that you could follow: Triage the articles that don't have enough prose, but (almost always in my experience) have an exorbitant amount of tablecruft instead. I've been avoiding this task, since I have no idea whether to mark them as List-class, expand them with actual prose, consider them to be genuine long stubs, or something else entirely. Hopefully you have a better intuition with respect to this! Furthermore, you could also work from the bottom or middle as well, since those are (I am now realizing) also quite long relative to your average stub despite being the shortest of the bunch. Duckmather (talk) 23:10, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
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Thanks for your contributions to Mezmur. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it has no sources.
Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.
I'm part of the worldcoin ecosystem so I'm aware that this type of change can't be made by me for COI.
If you like I'm also happy to share the company logo to add as well - not sure what the rules are in this regard.
Cheers Themoss2 (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
@Themoss2: Hello, and welcome to English Wikipedia! I've just fixed this error; thank you for pointing it out! (It seems that there is an entire other "Worldcoin", though I strongly doubt that it meets our notability criteria.)
With respect to the logo, I was actually wondering about uploading it myself (I was able to find it as a static image after opening up the official website's source code with the developer tools). However, I was uncertain about whether to put it here in the English Wikipedia's File namespace (where primarily non-free images live), or to put it in Wikimedia Commons (for freely licensed images that can be reused across all of the WMF wikis).
Why? Logos are normally copyrighted (as so many things are), but there is a template called {{PD-textlogo}} (Commons's version is commons:Template:PD-textlogo) which stipulates that logos composed of "simple geometric shapes or text" or similar automatically fall into the public domain (and here is a big list of examples). Now, I do think that Worldcoin's logo is a pretty simple geometric shape, but since I lack experience with uploading files and copyright law(if you want expertise on this, you'd have better luck looking through Category:Wikipedians who contribute to Wikimedia Commons), I was uncertain whether it was simple enough for {{PD-textlogo}} to apply.
Of course, since you're here on behalf of Worldcoin itself, there's a much simpler workaround for all this: Simply declare, on behalf of the Worldcoin team, that the logo is available for reuse under a Creative Commons license, so that I can upload it without hassles. Or - even simpler - upload the logo yourself using the file upload wizard, and declare the image's freedom from copyright infringement as you go.
This was an awfully long message for me to type up.
Thanks for applying the fix so quickly @Duckmather and for the detailed explanation of options. Let me look into the logo copyright option and get back to you. Themoss2 (talk) 19:25, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi @Duckmather, the logos have been added to Wikimedia - here are the files: . Let me know if this is what you needed.
Also saw that there's a new "design" section on Worldcoin entry that needs expansion. What type of information is needed? Design of the orb? Other? I'm happy to provide relevant sources and information. Themoss2 (talk) 20:15, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
@Themoss2: Thank you for the logos! I am adding the bigger one to the article.
The "Design" section is basically about how Worldcoin works and what makes it special compared to other cryptocurrencies (such as the orb, the iris hash thing, etc). Many Wikipedia articles on cryptocurrencies have sections about designs; see for example Bitcoin#Design or Ethereum#Design, and I could go on.
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Duckmather has been trouted for removing the gbmappingsmall template from the Ansty and Staplefield UK parish. As stated on the Talk page these are useful markers for people using this information. I will be reverting changes unless you can provide a solid argument why the template should ony be used on wikidata Riparia Riparia (talk) 06:45, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Happy to hear suggestions of how we can include map links in a more elegant way, however as a page dedicated to a geographic area, information source and wiki, pin pointing the areas being talked about is important. Please propose your modification before reverting a change in the relevant talk page. Thanks Riparia Riparia (talk) 06:08, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
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Just wanted to mention that though there are a decent number of references, most are from the subject himself or from an organization he is associated with. WMrapids (talk) 06:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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Recent G12 decline
Hi, just wanted to let you know that if you check the article TP of Empire National Bank Building, on which you declined G12, you'll see that before the final revision there was a much clearer copyvio whe the two paragraphs in the "design" section were both copied, so some revdelling may be required on past revisions. Thanks, Fermiboson (talk) 22:37, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
