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Hal Jordan

I'm sorry for causing trouble at the Hal Jordan page but I had already explained to the IP that Hal, as a character, isn't affiliated to the Blue Lantern Corps and yet he/she keeps adding the Corps back to Hal's infobox. You can check Hal's talk page for more information. Leader Vladimir (talk) 20:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Already contributed there. :) I understand the frustration, but edit-warring isn't the answer. If the IP continues to put their change through now that they've been advised that they're edit-warring, there are better options available. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 21:00, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

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The Addams Family

"non-principal, possibly not real" - What are you saying that the actor and character he portrayed wasn't real and wasn't in the movie? Eerie Holiday (talk) 18:59, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Just for being helpful here is his Imdb page Ryan Holihan imdb he is credited in the film and had his scenes in the movie don't understand how you can revert the edit without a better reasoning for it. Eerie Holiday (talk) 19:04, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Please note that new threads should generally be started at the bottom of Talk pages. Thanks!
IMDb isn't a reliable source per WP:RS/IMDb, though I admit if he showed up at the IMDb entry for the film then I'd tend to believe he was in it, and if he's in the film credits, even better.
That said, Wikipedia cast listings aren't intended to be exhaustive; rather, they should focus on the main characters who appear in the film, which is why I said the character appears to be non-principal. I'm looking at the IMDb page for the film, and it lists 18 characters without going into the Cast detail. The character played by Ryan isn't among them, nor is the character significant enough to be mentioned in our plot summary for the film. Given that the actor also doesn't have a Wikipedia article, I just don't see any pressing need to include him. You're welcome to raise the question at the article's Talk page, or if you can refresh my memory as to what he does in the film that's significant, I might reconsider. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 20:47, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Lumpy Addams and Cousin IT are both showed in minor roles during Festers farewell party both playing a minor roles Lumpy is shown in a few scenes while dancing with Wednesday and later on speaking with Morticia. Also The Amor sisters need to absolutely be added because they are apart of the story line and are both shown in the movie where their characters change the direction of the film by informing Tully about how fester is the oldest and how all of the Addams treasures belong to him and not Gomez which leads Tully to take legal action and ban the Addams from their home. Also The story if you remember was about how Gomez stole the Amor sisters from Fester leading him to leave for 25 years and until he returns also later in the film forgives Gomez for taking them away from him. Eerie Holiday (talk) 02:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps...perhaps...the sisters should be added, but I'm not seeing a compelling case for Lumpy. Please bring up your concerns at the article's Talk page so that we can get a consensus one way or another. Thanks for your understanding! DonIago (talk) 02:05, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Already have posted my concerns in the talk page. Also if you can give me an explanation on why you would focus on not allowing 3 characters who appear in the film in more then one scene but aren't concerned with the listing of Digit Addams who I can't even recall seeing in the film or even being mention. An fyi I'm watching at this very moment and Mercedes McNab as Girl Scout and Sally Jessy Raphael as Herself are listed when the roles they play are beyond smaller then a minor character please id love an explanation on the reason to keep these listings. I'm trying to learn the reason why those roles are okay to add but not characters who are featured in more scenes. Eerie Holiday (talk) 02:11, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
WP:OSE. If you want to delete other characters or proposing deleting other characters you're welcome to do so. I was concerned with the edits you made, which doesn't preclude concerns about the rest of the Cast section. DonIago (talk) 02:27, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Yes that was my reason for questioning you getting rid of my edits when there are way more obvious edits that should have been corrected then mine I felt there is valid reasons why my edits should stay and based on your reasoning for my edits to not be included I was challenging you with WP:OSE because it just didn't make sense to me why you focused on actual cast members that were featured more in the overall story then some that hold no ground based on your principal character theory. It was just over all curiosity in the end. But once again I hope in you look more into it rather then ignore it and wait for others opinions the Amor Sisters should 100% be added. Lumpy Addams is shown as much as Cousin IT is and Cousin IT is listed in the cast so that's why I question that listing. Eerie Holiday (talk) 16:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

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