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User talk:DefendEurope
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HELP US MAKING THE PROJECT OF ANCIENT GREEK WIKIPEDIAWe are the promoters of the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek. we need your help, specially for write NEW ARTICLES and the TRANSLATION OF THE MEDIAWIKI INTERFACE FOR ANCIENT GREEK, for demonstrating, to the language subcommittee, the value of our project. Thanks a lot for your help. Ἡ Οὐικιπαιδεία needs you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.40.197.5 (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC) Blocked You have been blocked for 24 hours for violating the three reverts rule on Ancient Macedonians. You may resume editing after the block expires but continued edit warring will result in longer blocks without further warning. Kafziel Complaint Department 10:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC) I was correcting vandalism. I am not a vandal. DefendEurope (talk) 16:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC) No personal attacks, no ethnic insultsAs you were making ethnic personal attacks against fellow editors ([1]), I am hereby placing you under civility parole for the next six months. If you behave in an incivil or aggressive manner again, you will be blocked. Please note that cvility and not making personal attacks is a very central part of how we do things here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Welcome!Καλώς ήλθες, παρακαλω ενημερωσου λιγακι για το πως "δουλευει" η wikipedia, καλυτερα να πας λιγακι με το ρευμα παρα να μην πας καθολου, αν καταλαβαινεις τι εννοω... Ακομα, σε αρθρα με εντονη διχογνωμια καλο θα ηταν να συζητας τις οποιες επικειμενες αλλαγες στα discussion pages. The Cat and the Owl (talk) 20:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Προσεξε!Παρακαλω προσπαθησε ν'αποφυγεις χαρακτηρισμους οπως εδω, χρησιμοποιησε αν θες ορους οπως "Σλαβομακεδονες" αλλα οχι "Skopians-Vardarskans" (που το θεωρουν προσβλητικο) γιατι το πιθανοτερο ειναι να σε διωξουν... Δες εδω: Wikipedia:Civility. The Cat and the Owl (talk) 22:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
?Exactly these are Greeks ( Slavs ,Turks, Jewish, Albanians etc ) do you know any Albanian yourself by any chance ?
BlockedSince you have ignored my warning and continued to misuse Wikipedia for fighting out your nationalist causes, aggressively attacking other editors on a personal level, I am now blocking you. It's three days this time. Next time I see you do this, you will be topic-banned from all articles and talkpage discussions relating to Macedonia. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I never fought. I argued. Within a logic based dialogue. With arguments and evidence. Listening to the arguments of the other side too and answering in a Civilized manner. Being Civilized includes being able to argue logically. I never misused wikipedia articles. I just talked in the discussion fields. Is that illegal? Isn't that the purpose of the existence of discussion fields? To talk towards a solution upon supposedly controversial subjects? What's the matter with that? ..you are confusing tension and intense arguing upon historical truth with "fighting" for supposed nationalistic causes.. if you cannot see who is making up propaganda for nationalistic causes with pseudoscience and pseudohistorical propaganda, there is no hope for you...DefendEurope (talk) 17:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC) Do you think what i said there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Toci is a mere opinion and point of view? If it was a cheap point of view you and your balkanfever friend could debunk them. Which you cannot. DefendEurope (talk) 18:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC) check out that propagandist too> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PelasgicMoon he says Slavs, Albanians, Africans, Turks, Jews are all Greeks..... do you think it's wrong to disprove that kind of pseudohistorical ridiculous propaganda? if that's wrong in here, i'm in the wrong site. i was looking for a valid encyclopedia. DefendEurope (talk) 19:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
if we equally expose - document - as you say, every possible view existing upon a subject, without explaining and giving reasons, facts, evidence, proof, analysis and conclusions for any of those views, as the source provides when stating that view, then we only confuse the unsuspected and not-in-the-subject reader.
Example: There are many views upon Egyptians. some Afrocentrists claim Egyptians were sub-saharan blacks, some White supremacists claim they were caucasian, Egyptians claim they were a separate North African non-sub-saharan Nation, some Arab nationalists claim they were Arabs. Can all these vastly different views be correct? No. They do exist though. Should a serious encyclopedia host every view equally without explaining which one is more supported and what are the evidence for each one? You tell me. Example 2: There are more than one theories on how and who did 9/11. Can we host every one equally? Without explaining the whole story? Of possible motives, footage etc? ..Anyway, don't take my word. Take Wikipedia's word. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:V "I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced. This is true of all information, but it is particularly true of negative information about living persons." who's on the wrong site now? .. when you welcome "i-heard-it-somewhere" information and nationalist propaganda equally with factual, sourced and checked, evident, proved truth: you are on the bad side. Don't you think? I, like most people who edit wiki and know history bring you sourced, proved, supported facts about Macedonians for example and you dismiss them as "cheap". But when propagandists like the Skopians say "Macedonians MIGHT not originally spoke Greek but were Hellenized" you welcome it, even if that theory is not sourced nor followed by any evidence whatsoever. As if they pass through the claim that the Macedonian tribe was not originally Greek (which is absolutely not true), the Macedonians will have more chances of being Slavs.. XD or "becoming" Slavs one day in the future, if you get what i mean... and the crazy thing is the same Skopian people who admit all Macedonians were absolutely Hellenized since Ancient Times are the ones who claim modern Macedonians are SoMeH0w a separate nation, non-Greek (!)... what do you have to say about this kind of propaganda that is spread? are you aware of all these? anyway.. i suggest you examine this http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Macedonia before welcoming propaganda about Macedonia DefendEurope (talk) 21:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Greek?I am not. But their food and culture is amazing! κaτaʟavenoTC 00:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Vergina SunΤετρακτύς εν δρασει!
The Vergina Sun with animated analysis of its meaning to the ancient Greeks, the four Elements -Fire, Air, Water, Earth and the 12 Greek Gods (Olympians)-Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Ares, Hermes, Hephaestus, Aphrodite, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Hestia and their classification-male/female/celestial/water etc Found in ancient Macedonian Tombs and became symbol of Macedonia. Ancient Macedonian Tombs which automatically means Ancient Greek Tombs, as Macedonia is a region of Ancient Greece. there are also a number of depictions of Athenian hoplites (Argeads and the Vergina Sun) bearing an identical sixteen-pointed symbol on their armor as early as the 6th century BC [3]DefendEurope (talk) 04:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
BlockedOkay, this [4] is enough. Out. Blocked for 1 month. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)  DefendEurope (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: inadequate reasons for 1 month block ..continued> Decline reason: How are your ethnic slurs and issues not inherently personal attacks? You were blocked only a few days ago for the exact same reason. One month is perfectly acceptable. — Jmlk17 22:39, 16 March 2008 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. 1. i absolutely did not do disruptive editing.
can you find any from me? ..
it was in an offensive tone yes. but where is the ethnic slur you mentioned? can't you provide it specifically? wikipedia is all about being accurate...DefendEurope (talk) 23:05, 16 March 2008 (UTC) if the "ethnic slur" is the reason of my block, then if the ethnic slur does not exist that makes my block unjust.DefendEurope (talk) 23:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
what was my disruptive editing? and Slav is a branch of a wider Eastern European ethnic group. a real one. not a slur for that. a word like Amerindian, Greek, Sub Saharan, Germanic, Celtic etc. The one who understands it as a slur is a racist or self-hating if he is one. i'm neither. i didn't call Futperf a slav. i called BalkanFever a Slav because he indeed is a slav. i just made fun of their POV pushing angst. no more, no less. i have seen serial vandals and badmouthed article rapists get simple warnings and 24-hour blocks. If i did no disruptive editing or used an ethnic slur i don't deserve the block. find a more decent excuse for my block at least.DefendEurope (talk) 23:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
"Playing coy doesn't work my friend" and "you know you were disruptive" are your points? Solid. DefendEurope (talk) 23:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
.-.-What to do so you don't get blocked/banned in wikipedia>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/74.43.230.254 <<<< he got a 48 hour block
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/62.162.183.189 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/81.215.232.131
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gaygreeks Blocked againYou came off your last one-month block for ethnically motivated personal attacks just yesterday and plunged immediately back again into the same behaviour [7]. I'm therefore blocking you right again, again for a month. Next time will be indef. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
one month block for talking in a heavy tone to a vandal? really? ..DefendEurope (talk) 19:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
-Fut:"I am actually a non-Greek admin. Even though I speek Greek and am friends with some Greek users here, I'm not one of them and Comparison - Indo-European languages
comparisonso we have 2 languages' words from 500 years Before Christ:
ok. it's closed. no connection to Greek whatsoever.DefendEurope (talk) 06:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Blocked Indef.haha jk don't get too excited now XD lololol DefendEurope (talk) 02:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC) the truth i wanted to get into wikipedia is already in.. so i don't care much about important stuff in here anymore. DefendEurope (talk) 04:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC) HELP US MAKING THE PROJECT OF ANCIENT GREEK WIKIPEDIAWe are the promoters of the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek. we need your help, specially for write NEW ARTICLES and the TRANSLATION OF THE MEDIAWIKI INTERFACE FOR ANCIENT GREEK, for demonstrating, to the language subcommittee, the value of our project. Thanks a lot for your help. Ἡ Οὐικιπαιδεία needs you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.40.197.5 (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC) |
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