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I am voting oppose to you. Best of luck. --Bob of Mars (talk) 16:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry to hear that. May I ask why? decltype (talk) 17:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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Your question at WP:Requests for adminship/Mikaey 2

What's preventing him from compiling the code and looking what it prints? That's what an "intermediate" programmer would do anyway :) By the way, you aren't really considering opposing if the answer is incorrect, are you? Jafeluv (talk) 09:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

This question has a very specific purpose that I'd be happy to explain, but I'd rather wait until the candidate has answered. As for opposing: In school, near the end of the term, some teachers would issue what they called "nothing-to-lose" tests. A good score could improve the overall grade in the subject, but a bad result would simply be disregarded. Think of it like that :) decltype (talk) 10:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Ohh, I wanna try too!

• The program doesn't do anything, because main() is an empty function.
  • False. The initializer of the global variable c is executed, printing "b".
    • decltype (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
• main should be either be declared void, or explicitly return a value.
  • False. The main() function can be left without a return value, in which case it returns 0.
    • decltype (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
• C::buf -- Arrays can't have variables/function returns as their sizes, because the compiler needs to know at compile-time how big the array should be, and that won't be known at compile time. Alternatively, C::buf could be redeclared as char *, and have memory allocated to it by the constructor.
  • Not sure about this one.
    • decltype (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
• Constructors don't return values, so there's going to be no version of f() that will match for "f( T() )". "f( T )" would be better, but f needs to be declared inside of struct C in order for it to work.
  • False. The default constructor of T (here double) creates an instance with a default value, probably 0.0.
    • decltype (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
• It's not always a good idea to use the compiler built-in macros (e.g., __cplusplus) for array sizes. Since a program is only supposed to check whether or not the macro has been declared, its value could be unpredictable.
  • True, but not a compile error.
    • decltype (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
• I've never been a big fan of using cin/cout. Beginner's stuff.
  • Disagree, but irrelevant.
    • decltype (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
• I could go on, but looking at that code makes my head hurt.
  • Mine too.
    • decltype (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Anyway, the program prints exactly "b", executed in the constructor of the global variable. Did I win? Are you going to explain what the specific purpose was? :) Jafeluv (talk) 19:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Eep. Well, in all fairness, I didn't run it through a compiler to see what would happen, I was trying to do it just off of looking at it. The code is definitely confusing, at best. I guess I've gotten too used to C# lately, where stuff like "int main() {} does not return a value" is an error. Matt (talk) 19:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. The purpose was 1) to see whether Mikaey is in general, modest about his own knowledge. If he had scored 100% on this question he would certainly be above "intermediate". Then I could also assume that he was being modest about being "not the most experienced" in CSD. And 2) I think editors with specialist knowledge are a great asset to Wikipedia, and as such, nice additions to the administrator force. decltype (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

They sure are. Speaking of which, I realized I haven't even congratulated you on your adminship. So... congratulations! I'm sure you'll put the tools to good use. Jafeluv (talk) 06:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

That's what she said :) Thanks!

AFD RFA

Thanks! No prizes for guessing where I was directly before RFA :-) AKAF (talk) 13:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Congrats on your RFA, by the way. AKAF (talk) 13:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! You got it right this time :) decltype (talk) 13:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Adminship

Congratulations, you are now an administrator! Your RfA had a consensus in support, but there were a small number of comments in opposition which you may like to look through and consider whether you could act on them. Now is the time to visit the Wikipedia:New admin school and, if you haven't already, to look through the Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide and Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Warofdreams talk 13:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations, I knew it would be a walk in the park for you Enjoy swinging your newly earned mop but don't hit anyone with it on your first day Regards SoWhy 13:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

That's easy for you to say! If you ask me, there was significant opposition, and I guess, rightfully so. In the last couple of days, I have thoroughly examined my approach to policy letter vs. spirit, and found that I do perhaps need to loosen up a little. But don't expect to see any IAR deletions in the near future :). Oh, and thank you so much for having faith in me. decltype (talk) 13:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

You are a textbook study on the two schools of thought regarding CSD. Your position is further to one side than either SoWhy, DGG, or myself---perhaps 3 of the more vocal opponents of the IAR CSD school of thought. Yet, your RfA sailed through relatively unscathed. If we were to take somebody from the other side of the equation, the IAR CSD school of thought, who was equally convicted to their school of thought, their RfA would be closed per SNOW. Your success really speaks volumes as to where the project is on the subject of IAR/CSD.---Balloonman ^NO! I'm Spartacus! 14:00, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I am very aware that there's two "camps". Needless to say, I was very happy to see how many supporters defending (at least partially) my approach to CSD. I don't think you should underestimate your own role. If it wasn't for your strong ¬vote, the outcome may have been (slightly) different. Thanks for supporting. decltype (talk) 14:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Trust me I never underestimate my role ;-) ---Balloonman ^NO! I'm Spartacus! 21:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

He! Another one in the hall of fame shame! Pedro :  Chat  14:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

So it seems. Thanks for an excellent, albeit overly aggrandizing nomination, Pedro. decltype (talk) 14:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice work :). Great to have another good admin on the job - Kingpin^13 (talk) 14:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I had no idea about the log thing, actually :) Interesting stuff! And thanks for your kind support ¬vote. decltype (talk) 14:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on your successful RfA! Lycka till! :) TheLeftorium 21:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Hej, tack så hjärtligt :) It may sound odd, but the outcome of your RfA affected me deeply, and I am very happy to see that you're as active as ever. My offer still stands, of course. Regards, decltype (talk) 22:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I just wanted to extend my congratulations in your new position as an administrator on Wikipedia! Best of luck in your future endeavours here on the English Wikipedia! Sincerely, Airplaneman (talk) 22:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! decltype (talk) 05:35, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Article Rescue Barnstar

Hi decltype, this is for you ...

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		For rescuing Arthur James Arnot from a probable speedy delete. --Bruce1ee^talk 13:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! decltype (talk) 13:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Decltype. You have new messages at Leonard^Bloom's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

(and congrats on the new mop) Lәo_(βǃʘʘɱ) 15:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

User:Kingpin2013

Thanks for the note, I'll keep an eye on them too. But I doubt anybody will think that that user is me. And they're unlikely (by their history) to become an established user. So there should be no problems. Cheers - Kingpin^13 (talk) 22:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Block

Hey, a user just e-mailed me to ask to be unblocked. the text of the email is on the User's Talk Page. Please advise this user. Andrewrp^Tally-ho! 14:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the heads-up. decltype (talk) 14:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Removal

Heya - Regarding the removal of the tag on "men in my town", the article was removed by an Administrator once before... and perhaps there's a similar tag I could use that doesn't specify "discussion" that you know of? I might have missed it when looking for a proper tag... Gpia7r (talk) 15:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Replied over there. decltype (talk) 15:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

RfA analysis

Hi. It may amaze you, but it's not immediately apparent what you mean with the two types of icon you're using. First glance implies that an X is the user getting something wrong and a tick is them getting it right. You might consider providing a key, finding less ambiguous icons or discontinuing the use of them. Thanks for helping users analyse candidates though - that's a great idea you've had. --Dweller (talk) 17:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, yes...I used the symbols from DYK...and your first glance is basically correct. X does imply a mistag, and a tick is positive (according to my standards, at least). I suppose I should provide a key or switch icons. It's not my idea, though. Someone on WT:RFA, I think WereSpielChequers came up with it a couple of weeks ago. decltype (talk) 19:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Purely for curiosity's sake, was that a complete audit of my CSD tagging over the last two months, or just a short selection of a few examples? (I'm guessing it's the latter) Matt (talk) 19:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I didn't look at every one, but a fair share of them. I'd look at more, but the interface is rather tedious to navigate, as you'll find out shortly :) I am seriously considering making a tool for this thing. decltype (talk) 19:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Dominic Fumusa

I don't see the credibility/notability in this article. He is a one-off guest on Nurse Jackie, as well as a guest on As the World Turns (Neither article mentions him aside from listing him in the cast as an extra). The updates since I tagged it brings it out of CSD, but it's definitely not very notable as it stands methinks. -- ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 23:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

True. Still, I think there's enough to warrant a deletion discussion, or at the very least a WP:PROD. Regards, decltype (talk) 23:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Noticed that you were online..

Please delete and possibly salt me :). -t'shael^chat 10:14, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Please disregard, SoWhy zapped it. And, before I forget again, I must offer you a belated congrats on your recent RfA. :) Best, t'shael^chat 10:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Actually, I wasn't online, I was away for a short while. decltype (talk) 11:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Lucky for you that I stalk this talk page ;-) SoWhy 21:05, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Can you do me a favor? _{if you're still online}

I tagged Marco Lupis di Santa Margherita as a G4 (Marco Lupis was deleted on June 26), but it just occurred to me that I don't know what the original article looked like. Can you do a quick comparison of the deleted copy and the current article? (if it's been improved, I need to remove the speedy template) Thanks for your help. APK coffee talk 13:41, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I looked over the article, and it looked largely identical to the AfD'ed one, with the exception of one more source. Hopefully I'll hear from someone if it was a bad call. Regards, decltype (talk) 13:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. APK coffee talk 13:55, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm sorry if I caused you any trouble when I attempted to create a sandbox for myself and screwed it up. I noticed you had to delete it. Coll Mac (talk) 20:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

It's no problem, but I'm not really sure what page you are talking about. Could you link it? Regards, decltype (talk) 20:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

It was this one [1]. I was trying to create a subpage for myself to write an article, thankfully I have now done so. Coll Mac (talk) 20:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, that one. No harm done. decltype (talk) 21:09, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the autoreviewer right. Extremepro (talk) 00:07, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Keep up the good work! decltype (talk) 00:12, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Arthur James Arnot

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Congrats

Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:

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Hehe, thanks. Words of wisdom indeed :) decltype (talk) 13:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Kovács Géza

I think the article was accidentally re-created after you deleted it by a user trying to add a {{notenglish}} tag. Bmg916^Speak 15:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Woops, you already saw that! Bmg916^Speak 15:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Yup, deleted as G7. Thanks for the heads-up. decltype (talk) 15:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

T-word

Thanks for your explanation. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 22:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)