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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 August. It will be on all wikis from 8 August (calendar).
Problems
A change in RelatedArticles extension accidentally enabled it for everyone, not just for mobile users. This has been fixed. [1][2]
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Today everyone can see IP addresses if someone edits without an account. In the future this could be more hidden. This is to protect unregistered editors so fewer can see their IP address. This would only happen after we make sure the tools for vandal fighting can still be effective. You can read more and comment.
Hi Mazewaxie, Many thanks for starting a discussion, I apologise if my edit summary was overtly rude however I find it extremely frustrating when people ignore hidden comments and do exactly what the comment says not to do,
Your actions go a long way in my book, Many thanks for peacefully resolving this (as opposed to edit warring) :),
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OK but maybe you should review the last version of file you uploaded, when I watch the article in mobile version, there is not enough space left and right, which hides a bit the left and right end of the file. I think it does the same problem when we watch the article on a PC. Thanks.--Le moulin de la sorcière (talk) 22:25, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
I would like to thank you to deleting the history of the file. I discovered something that when the previous version of file is smaller in height and width, it displays correctly in the article. When the previous version is bigger in height and weight, it not display perfectly in article, the file appears stretched in height or weight. I don’t know if it’s a bug or something like that in the system. Maybe this little problem should be reported in the Wikipedia or commons wikimedia community. Thanks.--Le moulin de la sorcière (talk) 16:14, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Hey Le moulin de la sorcière, This is indeed a bug - If you're on a laptop and Chrome > CTRL and F5 usually does the trick, It's a cache thing :), Thanks. 16:21, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools. Feedback on the discussion page is appreciated. [3]
Due to the absence of volunteer maintenance of Cologne Blue skin, the link to activate it will be hidden. The skin will still work, but editors using it are encouraged to switch to another skin. [4]
Changes later this week
Due to Wikimania, there is no deployment this week. [5]
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The "Wikidata item" link will be moved from "Tools" to "In other projects" section on all Wikimedia projects, starting on August 21. Full announcement, Phabricator task.
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There will be no Tech News issue next week. The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 2 September 2019.
Problems
Some abuse filters stopped working because of a code change. Only variables for the current action will work. Variables defined inside a branch may not work outside of that branch. You can read more to see how to fix the filters.
Only six accounts can be created from one IP address per day. Between 12 August and August 15 this was two accounts per day. This was because of a security issue. It is now six accounts per day again. [6]
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Only a limited number of accounts can be created from one IP address. An IP address can be whitelisted so that it can create as many accounts as needed. This is useful at events where many new persons learn to edit. IP addresses that are whitelisted for this reason will also not show CAPTCHAs when you create accounts. This will happen on Wednesday. [7]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 August. It will be on all wikis from 22 August (calendar).
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There is an RFC about creating a new global user group with the right to edit abuse filters. This will be used to fix broken filters and make sure all filters will still work when software changes happen. You can read more and comment.
Special:Contributions/newbies will no longer be working. This is because of performance reasons. It showed edits by new accounts. You can see this in the recent changes feed instead. [8]
On the contrary, dear Davey, you do a great job doing the stuff I can't do. You don't have to create content around here to be considered valuable. I've long considered you to be valuable and a trusted ally around here, and that kind of relationship is worth more than any featured article creation. Eric is not a difficult person to get along with, but he is if you piss him off by behaving like a monumental tool, as certain people have found out to their detriment lately. That is no different to real life; behave like a twat, expect to be called one, or at least treated like one. Even the most diplomatic of diplomats have their opinions on people. Sadly, we live in a world where people love taking offence. It's been made out to be such a bad thing that it now restricts the ability to speak freely and openly. Offence is not given, it is taken - and that is beyond anyone's control. The knack is to do what you and I do and do it without expecting everyone to be the same as you or I. And if you do expect that, well fuck off. Lol CassiantoTalk17:52, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi Cass, Nice to see a friendly face again!, Hope all is well,
Thank you that means a lot, I consider you a great friend here, I absolutely agree it's definitely worth more than any article creation,
I absolutely agree - In some ways WP is no different to RL in how you want to be treated etc,
Agreed, The world would be boring if we were all the same and did the same things!, Being different and doing different things is what makes every individual on this site unique I guess :),
LOL well one of me is bad enough ... don't need anyone else copying and being like me dear god no! ,
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User:Koavf - Sure, Our readers knowledge isn't enhanced by visiting WikiData ..... it's pretty much just a condensed version of the article itself ..., There's nothing to be gained from visiting that website which is why I reverted you/removed it, You're more than welcome to link to Commons or Wikinews or any other sister projects that would help our readers in some way, Thanks, –Dave | Davey2010Talk15:03, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Davey2010 It been a week and I haven't seen any other consensus as you imply on the Honda Civic talkpage, if this what I have to do every time I want to propose a image by me and also get hounded by a certain individual then I might as well pack up and leave, but I won't. This TBAN is highly patronising but who am I kidding? People don't listen to me anyway. They think I'm some malicious sockpuppet user that want nothing but power. Being painted like that can get really tiring you know? --Vauxford (talk) 16:58, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi Vauxford, Unfortunately I can't close it as I've already !voted in it, As much as I love IAR given the recent issues there I'd rather not close it, You're more than welcome to go to WP:Request for closure and have an uninvolved person close it tho,
You just thanked me for "The happyness of the FA writers is of higher importance than being helpful to our readers." Would you sign that line? Just curious. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi Gerda Arendt, Oops sorry I think I may of misread what was said, Unfortunately I would disagree with that, IMHO from what I've seen all FA writers put the reader first over themselves .... But then again I never contribute there so there's probably a lot I don't see.... –Dave | Davey2010Talk13:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Well, I worded it in a hopefully thought-provoking way, and hope a closer will stumble over it. I have been educated - by arbitration enforcement from the Laurence Olivier discussion (just look for my name, the third comment there got me to AE) with a similar history: a ten-year-old infobox removed to please the FA writers - to have to believe in it, because there's really no other answer to the simple question "why not?" Why not have a feature if it helps some readers, even if I don't need it myself? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt Admittedly I remove infoboxes myself from articles (those that have barely anything in them and or those that are "outshined" by the lead),
I never ran into problems with you, but with FA writers. "outshine" seems to be a key word, thank you, - competition for the reader's attention? What do you think about these 2016 comments, then (not by me), nutshell: "it would really help if people who make "editorial choices" not to use infoboxes would do some more thinking about how they are going to serve their less prose-oriented readers - people who are just skimming, who aren't sure this article is the one they're looking for, who don't read English well, who are reading on their phones, who are trying to reuse our content". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Some of those are really good points and admittedly I've never thought about the visually impaired (Is that the politically correct word ? ... I don't know can never keep up these days!) or dyslexic people,
I would like to see a 2019/2020 RFC with all of those key points included and see what (if anything) needs changing, We should cater for everyone but then again we have Simple EN which could work better for those visually impaired or dyslexic, –Dave | Davey2010Talk14:37, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Do you imply that we should send the blind over to Simple English? - I don't think we ever need another RfC. I regret I took part in this one. - What do you think of Yay! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
My train of thought was that Simple EN was perhaps better because the majority of articles have infoboxes and is much simpler in terms of reading although granted not every visually impaired person is "slow" .... All ideas and what not, Thanks. –Dave | Davey2010Talk16:18, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
As I said before, "Infoboxes are just data tables, which can be navigated fine with screen readers. I like them when they contain a lot of statistical info; otherwise I'm generally meh about them, to be honest." Graham8703:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Lewiskel - I have a very low tolerance when it comes to vandals .... You've now got yourself a final warning, The next time you blank an article or do dumb shit like this you're gonna find yourself blocked,
About 20% of my edits involve removing tracked wikidata parameters, so it'd save me a lot of time if this is actually a convention that has been agreed somewhere, in which case humble apologies.Bogger (talk) 17:20, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Bogger Well I would kindly ask that you stop and that you seek wide consensus for your changes, 90% of articles I visit have the data in them and the 10% that don't I add in. –Dave | Davey2010Talk17:50, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi there. Thanks for the ping. I have blocked the above user for disruptive editing. I concur with you that WP:CIR applies. I'm reluctant to invoke WP:NOTHERE at this point and block indefinitely, although I accept that may yet prove to be necessary. Feel free of course to open discussions at the relevant noticeboard if you feel that an indef is required right now. Otherwise, if they continue to disrupt after they return from their block, and if I am active, feel free to ping me again and I'll deal with it - quite possibly more decisively next time. HTH/is reasonsably satisfactory. --kingboyk (talk) 16:57, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Davey2010, note that the IP in question is very likely an editor named Mickeydee15. They've previously edited at 65.93.223.100, which is similar to 65.92.31.95, and both geolocate to Canada, near Montreal. (All 3 have hit Sarah Michelle Gellar before, so that's one of their primary articles of interest.) For more context, please see this thread on my Talk page. If you ever see esp. the named account continuing this nonsense, let me know – I'll eventually get around to filing an WP:ANI report the next time this gets out of hand. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:07, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi IJBall, Ah interesting, As the reverts went on I did have a feeling this was a sock of someone ...., I went to AIV a few days ago to report the 50 IP but that went declined ... and then the smart arse hopped to another IP anyway,
If you (or anyone) did go to ANI you've have my 110% support easy,
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You can use the new termbox interface if you edit Wikidata on a mobile device. This is to edit labels, descriptions and aliases easier on the mobile pages. [9]
The new version of MediaWiki has been deployed during the last week.
The previously announced change of positions of the "Wikidata item" link on all wikis has been rollbacked due to unexpected cache issues. [10]
The limit for rollbacks has been increased from 10 to 100 rollbacks per minute. [11]
The advanced version of the edit review pages (Recent Changes, Watchlist, and Related Changes) now include two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces. However the "All discussions" filter does not include pseudo talk pages, like discussions that are in the Project: or Wikipedia: namespaces. But it will include changes happening on Project talk: or the Wikipedia talk:. [12]
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 September. It will be on all wikis from 5 September (calendar).
When you log in, the software checks your password to see if it follows the Password policy. From this week, it will also complain if your password is one of the most common passwords in the world. If your password is not strong enough, please consider to change your password for a stronger password. [13]
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I must admit I'm confused why my edits where reverted. I'm new to editing on Wikipedia and am having a hard time figuring out if I did something wrong or if there is some sort of misunderstanding. I'm not even sure what 'rv coi' means. Googling gives the impressions it might mean something along the lines of "reverted due to conflict of interest."
Could you please explain what's going on? I'm feeling awfully deflated right now because not only did I spend hours looking up information and figuring out how to edit infoboxes but I also spent hours going out and taking those photographs myself.
I hope this can be cleared up because I thought I did a good job.
My apologies 'lectric eye I thought you were adding tons of promo content to the article but indeed on closer inspection you were only updating the infobox so sorry about that, I've gone ahead and restored your edits :),
Since you have deleted information about the exits at some MRT station in Singapore, will you be doing the same for all of them? If not, can you explain why pages about some stations can retain their exit information while others cannot?
Hi User:Masumrezarock100, Thanks so much!, No worries I always like to help where I can :), Thank you for your help as well as you deal with FFU more than I do so thank you too :),
IJBall, Ah sorry, I wasn't sure if access dates etc should've been changed as I noticed a few other MDY dates remained (I thought the script worked on them all), As you're about to edit it I shan't reinstate my edits but let me know when you've done and I'll use that YYYY script again :), Cheers, –Dave | Davey2010Talk16:00, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I've basically just restored your edit – only a couple of the article's original refs used ISO dates for accessdate; the rest were "all mdy", so the article should be "all mdy"... You might want to double-check my work, though... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:01, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
IJBall Ah okay, I know some people prefer MDY and others prefer YYYY so yeah if I'm reverted I let it stand and admittedly I thought you reverted because you preferred that format lol, All looks good I think :), Thanks, –Dave | Davey2010Talk16:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Oh, I personally do prefer the mixed mdy/ISO dates ref format – it's generally what I use when I create articles. But that's neither here nor there – in articles I haven't created, I (try to) go strictly by WP:CITEVAR and WP:DATERET: whatever the original ref dates format at the article was should be what's currently used (unless there was a Talk page consensus to change it). So, in the case of Maya Hawke, it started out (predominantly) as "all mdy dates", so that's what it should be now... I generally check this, but in this case I didn't check this until after your edit... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Admittedly I don't check the history at all - I just go by what the article is currently in, Some people agree with my approach ... and others.... not so much ,
I prefer the MDY/DMY format and so used to edit war and get into arguments over it but you begin to realise that the energy and time spent on arguing could be much better spent on articles :),
I mean absolutely no disrespect to you none at all but I've given up caring at this point, The report was there the whole day and not one person commented on it, Given it's a highly watched and highly used board I expected some sort of reply even if it was a "I'll warn and see how it goes"... but nope nothing,
Sorry, if it wasn't clear — I meant my own incomprehension (on RfPP)! I obviously am also suffering from writing incomprehension! El_C19:07, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
El_C Please accept my sincere and unreserved apologies, I thought you meant my reading comprehension which is why I reacted the way I did,
As I said tho the wording on the RFPP could've been much much better so it's completely my fault you were confused,
Anyway thank you for coming back and again I unreservedly apologise for the reaction,
Davey, not at all. Apology accepted, gladly. Sorry for the confusion (I'm a bit sleep-deprived today, truth be known), again. Happy we got it all sorted. Best, El_C19:24, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
El_C, Thank you that means a lot, Haha well if it helps I know exactly how you feel!, For the past 2 days I only had 5-6 hours sleep and was up at 8 the next day so I know how you're feeling! :),
Same here thanks again for coming back and explaining - You could've quite easily blocked me but you didnt so thank you,
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Hey there, just to avoid confusion: Your edit on Heathrow Airport restoring a large portion of content using Twinkle had to be undone. The removal by another user was justified as WP:AIRPORTS clearly states that we do no longer list terminal or alliance assignments in destination charts. This had been abandoned approx. two years ago in accordance with WP:NOTRAVEL. Please do not restore this and refer to the Aviation portal if in doubt. Thanks and best regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.217.122.192 (talk) 18:15, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi 88.217.122.192, Ah right sorry I wasn't aware of that, I just saw you removing a whole ton of content without any sort of explanation, Another IP had added it[19] so therefore anyone wishing to add it back would need to seek consensus,
Anyway thanks for using the edit summary as well as for coming here,
Hi Davey2010! I'm just letting you know that there's currently a discussion at ANI regarding an issue where you've been involved. Don't worry, you're not in any trouble... ;-) It's just regarding a dispute that's been happening for quite some time where you've provided assistance to one of the users. :-) The discussion is located here; please do not hesitate to respond or provide input to it if you have any information that you believe should be shared. Other than that, I hope you have a great day and I wish you well, and happy editing! It's good to talk to you again, Davey2010... :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk)(contribs)06:51, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi User:Oshwah, Haha not gonna lie my first response to seeing the ANI notice was "Ugh what now!" , Good to know it's not about me haha :),
I'll take a look now and see if there's anything I need to say :),
Many thanks Oshwah - All's well here thanks and today is going to be a very lazy day as been out the entire week, Anyway I too hope you have a great day and are well :),
LOL, it's okay - I think the same thing when I see an ANI notice on my user talk page (even though they've always been discussions about someone else - usually someone I've helped work with and mentor). "Oh great... what did I do now? ....." ;-) Cool deal; I appreciate you for taking the time and looking at the discussion. Nice; that sounds like a relaxing and awesome day - I hope you enjoy it and make it a good one. Keep in touch, and I hope we speak again soon! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk)(contribs)10:03, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Haha well I don't think anyone likes being dragged there tbh :),
Hi-I try to welcome new users to Wikipedia in order to provide needed information. I was not aware that the last use I had welcomed was banned. I made a mistake an I take full responsibility for it. I should had paid more attention to the status of new users. Thank you for your comment-RFD (talk) 21:34, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
I was doing some editing and I came across the user. The user's talk page had no material so I added the welcome to Wikipedia template to the talk page. I do this to new users to welcome them to Wikipedia. Thank you-RFD (talk) 08:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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Special:Contributions will get the standard OOUI look. This makes it easier to use on mobile and makes it look like other Special: pages. There is a script you can use to make the form smaller if you want to. [21]
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A user (who has now been blocked as a sockpuppet) has remade Mangoo, which you previously nominated for deletion (when it was at "DJ Mangoo"). There's little more there now, although some might argue that his featuring on a newer, higher charting song now makes it meet notability guidelines, although I'm not entirely convinced of that. Not sure if you want to nominate it again, but just letting you know. Ss11223:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Ss112, Many thanks for letting me know, I agree the 2019 song certainly seems more notable than him, I've gone ahead and renominated it for deletion, Thanks again foe the heads up much appreciated. –Davey2010Talk00:16, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi IJBall, Apologies wasn't ignoring you just wanted to get the ANI report out the way first - Many thanks for the heads up - It's a shame they couldn't take the advice given and simply not edit years,
Agreed and there doesn't seem to be any sign of stopping,
IJBall It's at times like this I feel like headbutting a wall in the hope it'd somehow help! .... somehow I don't think it will unfortunately. –Davey2010Talk17:28, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
I don't know how to handle this – there are a bunch of other editors and Admins that have tangled with this editor before, and I bet at least some of them have further evidence... However I'm guessing contacting them would be considered "WP:CANVASSING". But I'd like to hear from other editors who have dealt with AnimeDisneylover95 previously (and there are a lot of them!!). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:31, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
I think ANI was the best way to handle it tbh, Seems Neil and Rob both have had dealiings with him however Rob's vanished and Neil's on a break (I think), Hopefully someone will do something soon, –Davey2010Talk17:37, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Actually, I think NeilN just got back from break. Drmies has also dealt with this editor before. But I'm leery of pinging them into this. Right now, EdJohnston, an actual Admin, seems to agree that this editor is a problem, so I'm hoping that will carry the day with other Admins... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Ah okay well if you wanted you could ping them in the ANI thread as it wouldn't be like you're pinging a complete random admin, ANI has a\ plenty of eyes there tho so yeah hopefully something will be done, Thanks –Davey2010Talk20:59, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
hello, recently you've been reverting my image replacements, saying it need to be "consensus" in order for me to actually replace them. i'm sure you are able to tell that which images are better in angle, quality, etc. but i guess not really. while i've been inactive to focus more on schoolwork & etc i don't have the time to keep getting into a "revert war" because i was trying to improve articles by providing better pictures. but i guess i'm not allowed to replace images anymore unless its someone else, so if you see that if the pictures i upload in the future could be used, feel free to do so(remember it has to be consensus). otherwise i'm wasting my time here. thank you
Hi, As I've reverted you on a good few articles it'd take forever to bring all the images forward and explain why they're not great, You're more than welcome to improve articles here just don't unneedlessly replace good images with yours Thanks, –Davey2010Talk06:58, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
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There is a problem in the visual editor when you copy or delete text with footnotes. It will be fixed soon. [23]
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Internet Explorer 6 and 7 are no longer supported. This means the browsers might start looking a bit weird. They will not get security support. You can't read Wikimedia wikis in Internet Explorer on Windows XP or Windows versions that are older than Windows XP. This is because almost no one uses the browsers anymore. Supporting them made the wikis less secure for everyone else. [25]
In the future section headings might have a share link. This is to make it easier to link to the section. You can read more and discuss.
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Talk Pages
The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.
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Mobile visual editor
The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.
In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.
Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November. This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.
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... for comments towards article improvement in Ritchie's case, - nice to be not alone. I typed a lot on my talk this morning, ending on "should be unblocked", - and then found out he was ;) - "don't believe in miracles, rely on them" (Mascha Kaléko). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Gerda Arendt, Thanks for your comment, Just read your talkpage - You certainly didn't deserve that!, Thankfully he's only there for 73 days (or just over 2 months),
Anyway Ritchie should be thanked for the timeless work and effort he puts into articles... not blocked for it.
Well, some will not like my description of AE, but that's my experience. I was there. Compare the complete waste of time when my friend Andy improved a newbies malformed "infobox" (and the formatting made it a real infobox, something he was prohibited to create even in his "own" articles, - another of these kafkaesque restrictions arbcom comes up with that don't improve the project), which kept two noticeboards busy for weeks, and the filer desysopped in the end, instead of a short thank-you for helping a new user. Then - as now - Boing! said Zebedee described the complete situation the shortest, and Floq commented: "No foul, play on" which should be applied much more often. ---Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:50, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Wow!, Some of the requests etc here really have been pathetic!, Glad nothing was done there (ie blocks), Shame the same common sense wasn't applied here.
Wow Gerda Arendt you and others have worked wonders with her article and you should all be very proud of yourselves, Thank you for valued contributions to the project, Take care, –Davey2010Talk16:50, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
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The API sandbox and help pages now show more clearly when API modules are marked as internal. API modules marked as internal were probably internal before. It was easier to miss. You should look for non-internal alternatives. [26]
Problems
There is a translation tool we use on wikis with more than one language. For a few days it did not create pages for new languages when someone translated a page. The languages did not show in the language bar. This has been fixed. [27]
The history and diffs can show wrong content. This is because of a cache problem. It will soon be fixed. [28]
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 October. It will be on all wikis from 24 October (calendar).
Reference Previews will be a beta feature on all Wikipedias and some Wikivoyages. It shows you a preview of the footnote when you hover over or click on the number. It has been a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia since April.
Meetings
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Hi User:Path slopu, Thank you so much! :), I recieved a card today and in it it says "Another year older, another year wiser" .... I think I may of recieved someone elses birthday card as I certainly don't feel wiser , Many thanks for the birthday wishes :), –Davey2010Talk11:46, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello! I wanted to discuss the revisions on the Shock Site page that you reversed earlier today. I saw your comment that many things appeared to be removed or changed and the categories had been removed. All of the content (other than the See Also list) were incorporated into the text of my revision as I did not want to remove any content, only format it in a way that was less example listing and more an explanation of different facets of shock sites. Given the issue template on the top of the site requesting sections of history, legality, and impact, I thought that incorporation may solve those issues. Would I be able to get more information from you on how you think I might better approach this revision so that I can still add the information on history, ethics, legality, and impact? Additionally, I am tagging Reagle and Shalor (Wiki Ed) as they are aware of the proposed revisions I had, and I would like to keep them up to date on the conversation. Many thanks, -Bcstanley1 (talk) 22:59, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Bcstanley1, My apologies you indeed didn't remove any content so apologies for saying you did, Having looked at both IMHO the "old" layout is much much better, You could still add those 3 to the article but still keeping the "old" revision, Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk08:39, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Good evening, user Davey2010. Recently, I stumbled upon a deletion discussion (you opened) in which I find that despite the subject having multiple charted songs and essentially satisfying WP:NMUSIC, the article was deleted for lacking notability. Another page associated with this musician — K-391 — is also a similar case. K-391's notability is hugely dependent on his friend Alan Walker who is a chart-topping DJ and producer. The issue with K-391 is that the page discusses nothing more than his association/collaborations with Walker. I think, to qualify for a Wikipedia page, a subject has to have independent notability that must not purely be dependent on another person (according to WP:N). Given that you thought Mangoo warranted deletion, I figured you might think the same for K-391 as they are both similar in structure and notability (content about collaborations, charted songs, no great info & no in-depth coverage about themselves). I was wondering if you, when you have the time, could take a look at the page and consider it for a deletion discussion. Kind thanks, Agenzmale (talk) 15:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
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You can post proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals until 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 20 November to 2 December. This year the wishlist will focus on Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage and Wikinews. You can read more about the format for this year.
Mobile users now have a specific design for their Watchlist. [29][30]
You can share feedback and ideas on the Desktop Improvements project. The goal is to make the interface easier to use for readers and editors without removing any functionality. The Foundation's Readers Web team will work on this over the next two years.
OOUI now allows using px (pixels) instead of em (em) for some specific cases. [31][32]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 October. It will be on all wikis from 31 October (calendar).
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There will be no software changes from 19 December to 2 January. The first MediaWiki version next year will come the week of 6 January. [33]
Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015, this information was moved from global variables named wg* to mw.config. The old global variables will be removed later this year. You can know more about it and tell the developers if you want to try this out on your wiki first.
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Trick or Treat! Happy Halloween Davey2010! I hope you have a great day and remember to be safe if you go trick-or-treating tonight with friends, family or loved ones. Happy Halloween!
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Halloween is a celebration observed in several countries on 31 October, the eve of the Western Christian feast of All Hallows' Day. Halloween activities include trick-or-treating (or the related guising and souling), attending Halloween costume parties, carving pumpkins into jack-o'-lanterns, lighting bonfires, apple bobbing, divination games, playing pranks, visiting haunted attractions, telling scary stories, as well as watching horror films.
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At Special:Contributions you could see up to 5000 edits at the same time if you edited the URL. This has been lowered to 500. This is to stop requests which break the sites. [34]
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MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry can set the default length to block a user for your wiki. You will be able to use MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip to set a different default block length for IP editors. [35]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 November. It will be on all wikis from 7 November (calendar).
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Hi, Davey - I'm hoping my most recent comments at the RfA may provide more food for thought. [36] and [37]. I just feel that RfA has become more like a whipping post for any editor who has been on WP for a substantial length of time and dared to throw his name in the hat at RfA. GRuban has been here going on 14 yrs, and is as close to exemplary as they come. What is happening to him now is sad and undeserved. I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion, and needs to be brought back into context. I've seen other RfA's where discussions were clerked and quickly moved to the TP but that isn't being done with this one. Anyway, thanks in advance for your consideration. AtsmeTalk📧10:28, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Atsme, Just to let you know I've read your message and will look closely at it tomorrow, (I've just done a 9hr shift in a warehouse so my brain is literally fried right now! :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk20:54, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi again Atsme, I think GRuban's a great editor don't get me wrong but for me being an comes with a lot of trust, You need to trust the person you're giving the bit too .... If they can make an easy slip up such as this who's to say it won't happen again or who's to say more sensitive data won't be slipped out,
The stalking I'm not really fussed about as such but for me the email is a serous concern although to others I appreciate it not be an issue at all.
Unfortunately had it not been for the email issue my !vote would've firmly remained in the support section still,
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MediaWiki2LaTeX can put different pages from a Wikimedia wiki into a PDF. It can now make a PDF with around 5000 pages. Previously this was 800 pages.
Changes later this week
There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
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Wikimedia will take part in Google Code-in. This is for young students who want to help with open source software. You can read more. Experienced technical Wikimedians can mentor students.
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In future if you come across him or his socks please file an SPI via WP:Twinkle (but don't tick CU or you'll get a good slapping as I have done previously),
Next week I'll be doing 8 hour shifts in a new job so my time here will be limited and obviously I'm not flaffing around with SPIs the moment I get home so you or someone else would need to continue it the SPIs if he continues,
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The National Museum is a Czech museum institution intended to systematically establish, prepare, and publicly exhibit natural scientific and historical collections. It was founded in 1818 and is located in Prague.
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Problems
You will be able to read but not to edit some wikis for up to 30 minutes on 26 November at 06:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. It will probably last much shorter than 30 minutes. This will also affect the centralauth database. This could for example affect changing passwords, logging in to new wikis, changing emails or global renames. [39]
Changes later this week
You can soon vote on proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can vote on proposals from 20 November to 2 December. This year the wishlist will focus on Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage and Wikinews. You can read more about the format for this year.
There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
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The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
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Parsoid is software we use for the visual editor, content translation, Flow and the Android app. This has been rewritten. It will come to the wikis gradually over the next two weeks. It has been tested, but there could be some diffs or previews that don't look right. If you see any you can report them. [41]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 November. It will be on the other wikis next week (calendar). This is because of holidays.
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You will switch between the article and the talk page in a new way in the mobile view in the future. It will use tabs. This is more like in the desktop view. [42]
Discussions at ANI tend to bring out emotional responses. It looks like you were doing some good work there that got supported (I haven't looked at the background), so thanks for that. However, I noticed the edit summary at the top of my watchlist and it is not acceptable to gratuitously use a name that another editor has specifically asked not be used. You may disagree but it would be easier to let it go and accept that we have different opinions. The alternative is to make a lot of drama about a very trivial word. Johnuniq (talk) 22:46, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Johnuniq, My sincere apologies for reverting you earlier, I genuinely had forgot you were an admin otherwise I obviously wouldn't of reverted you,
His name is here in black and white as well as elsewhere so in this specific instance I don't understand how I'm OUTING him if his name is already public here?, If his name wasn't public here then I could understand but given his full name is still public as I said I don't understand how I'm outing him?,
That being said I have no fight in this like I said had I known you were an admin I would've left it at your revert,
Thank you for the very considerate response. Of course you don't need to check if the person you are reverting is an admin, and yes, my RfA was quite recent. The main point is that the editor specifically asked that the name not be used. Under those conditions, using it is just a stick to poke them, and insisting on using it is really poking them. That approaches harassment territory. If someone starts editing with a username that suggests their real name, they have a right to be renamed and continue without others unnecessarily drawing attention to their former name. Of course if the person were being disruptive in a way that continued disruption conducted under the original name, it might be necessary to draw attention to that in an ANI report. However, the editor and the name are a sideshow in the discussion in question. My opinion, which I think others might share, is that it is best to avoid using personal names in a situation like that. Johnuniq (talk) 23:03, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Fair point, To be fair tho if he didn't show up and make a random comment I wouldn't of poked him lol, I'll just shut up now probably the wisest thing I could do at this stage is simply not speak :), Anyway thank you for your message, Have a great day, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk23:19, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
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Mix'n'match is a tool to connect Wikidata items to information in other databases. It can be used to find subjects that are missing in a Wikipedia. It now has more than 3000 datasets. Before it was closer to 2000.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 December. It will be on all wikis from 5 December (calendar).
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There will be a new schema for XML dumps. Scripts and apps that use them will need to be updated. If they are not updated they will no longer work. [43]
The {{REVISIONID}} magic word will no longer work in the content namespaces. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it returns "" (empty string). When you read a page it returns "-" (dash). In the future this will also affect other namespaces. The next ones are file and category namespaces. [44]
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Wikimedia projects use Translatewiki to translate the wiki interface. You can now use WatchTranslations to watch projects there. You would get an email if there are missing translations to your language. [45]
There is a new dataset you can use. It shows the number of editors per country per month for a number of countries. You can read the documentation and download the dataset.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 December. It will be on all wikis from 12 December (calendar).
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You can test a new reference tool. It makes it possible to reference different parts of a source without repeating all information. You can test it on the beta cluster. You can see an example article. [46]
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I decorated a special kind of Christmastree in the spirit of the season.
What's especially nice about this digitized version: *it doesn't need water *won't catch fire *and batteries aren't required.
Have a very Merry Christmas - Happy Hanukkah‼️
and a prosperous New Year!!
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Hi Atsme, Thanks so much and I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, I'll send my greetings out nearer the time :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk20:45, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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Problems
The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. It did not show new changes last week. This was because of an API problem. It is now working again. [47]
Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information again. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. This is because of a database problem. The developers are working on solving the problem. [48]
Changes later this week
You can get email notifications. You can get them immediately, a summary every day or a summary once every week. If you choose a summary you can soon choose not to get notifications you have already marked as read on the wiki. [49]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 December. It will be on all wikis from 19 December (calendar).
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The partial blocks feature is now stable. It will come to most wikis on 6 January. Your wiki can ask to wait. Contact NKohli (WMF) if you don't want it now. [50]
Hey Ozzie10aaaa, Long time no see :), Thank you for your beautiful greeting, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk14:36, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true.
No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well D. MarnetteD|Talk02:34, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi MarnetteD, Wow you learn something new everyday, I want to try that cocktail right now! :),
Thanks so much and I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Healthy New Year,
Merry Christmas, Davey2010! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969TT me19:00, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Hey onel5969, Thank you for your beautiful greeting, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:03, 19 December 2019
Merry Christmas!!
Thank you very much Raju for your thoughtful greeting. You have my very best wishes for this holiday season. May your heart be filled with happiness during this special time.CAPTAIN RAJU(T)18:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Perhaps you didn't notice, but Begoon recently uploaded a cleaner version of this file in png format as File:GHR logo.png and there's really no need to have two of what are essentially the same files per WP:NFCC#3. Now, I'm not exactly sure why JJMC89 is contesting the jpeg's non-free use in Greatest Hits North East, but my guess is that it has to do with WP:NFCC#8 and item 17 of WP:NFC#UUI (perhaps he will clarify his reasons), but png generally considered to be a better format for logos than jpeg (because there tend to be no artifacts I think); so, if you think the file should be used in the "North East" article, then perhaps you should add a non-free use rationale for that particular use to the png file's page and replace the jpeg with the png in the article. If JJMC89 or anyone else disagrees, then they can tag the file with {{Di-disputed fair use rationale}} or nominate it for discussion at FFD. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:34, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Marchjuly, Unfortunately I didn't have the faintest idea otherwise ofcourse I would've left it, I've self reverted on that file,
I absolutely agree PNG is much much better than JPG and I welcome any conversions to that format that are made :),
This kind of things happens quite a bit, particularly with logos. An existing file is "re-created" in another format (most of the time these new files seem to be svg) and replaced in various articles, thus making them orphans in many cases or somehow otherwise have problems per WP:NFCC#10c. There's really no automatic notification that goes out to anyone that says "hey this file has been replaced by another file". The file's uploader will be notified if the file is tagged for speedy deletion, but they won't know why other than that the file is no longer being used. Sometimes the person doing the recreating will add {{SVG version available}} or {{PNG version available}} to the relevant file pages, but not always. So, please understand I'm not faulting you for not catching this.Per WP:NFCCE, however, you are responsible for providing a separate, specific non-free use rationale for the png file if you feel that it's non-free use Greatest Hits North East is justified. The file does have a separate specific rationale for its non-free use in Greatest Hits Radio, but it needs one for each use. Files missing a rationale for a particular use will picked up by a bot which then will remove the file from any article(s) where it lacks the required rationale.One thing about missing rationales is that just providing one isn't always automatically enough per WP:JUSTONE. I didn't go into to much detail about item 17 of NFC#UUI above, but generally corporate/team/brand logos are considered OK for use in primary identification purposes in the parent article about the parent entity, but not automatically so by default in articles about child entities of the same organization unless there content (ideally sourced) about the child entity using the parent's branding in its article. In such cases, a logo specific to the child entity is considered more appropriate. So, in an article about a TV network, the network's primary logo is fine for the main/parent article about the network, but the same primary logo is almost always not considered acceptable for any articles about any individual stations of the network unless there is something discussing the station's choice of branding. In such cases, a logo particular to the individual station is preferred, even if its pretty much the same logo with a slight difference (e.g. call letters). So, please keep this in mind when providing the missing rationale because the better you can clarify in the rationale how the file meets policy with respect to the particular non-free use and the better you can provide content to the relevant article in question showing this to be the case, the easier it will be for others to assess the non-free use. Many people simply copy-and-paste the rationale they see provided for one use, only changing the article parameter, but then do nothing else since they assume that adding any rationale makes everything OK; some times this does by coincidence work OK, but most of the time it doesn't per WP:OTHERIMAGE. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:32, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
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Happy holidays!
Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous 2020. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. We give thanks for your works to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia.
Hello Davey2010, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020. Happy editing, ★Trekker (talk) 13:55, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
To Davey2010, best wishes to you and your family for a joyous Holiday Season and a happy and healthy New Year. Ewulp (talk) 04:34, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Davey2010, wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia this year – Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 10:29, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2020!
Hello Davey2010, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020. Happy editing, --Jules(Mrjulesd)12:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Davey2010, wishing you and your family a merry Christmas and a very happy New Year.Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia this year! – Arjuno (talk )
Seasons' greetings Davey2010! Here's wishing you and yours a cracking Christmas and a happy new year to come All best! and happy editing –User:Lockley00:49, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
The best thing for you to do here is to follow the template's instructions and challenge the CSD tag on the file's talk page. You can also add {{Di-replaceable fair use disputed}} to the file's page as well. The administrator who reviews the file will see that the CSD tag has been challenged and decide whether the file should be deleted or whether further discussion at FFD is necessary. Whatever your reasons are for thinking the files should be kept, they are going to be overlooked or lost in the fact that you're basically edit warring by repeatedly removing the CSD tags. I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, but I've seen files tagged for CSD which have been declined by the reviewing admin who then suggested further discussion take place at FFD after reading challenges to the CSD tag on the file's talk page, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone edit warring by repeatedly removing a CSD tag who ended at ANI or AN3 not be blocked. When it comes to former logos like this, there is a pretty strong consensus established through previous FFD/WP:NFCR discussions that there needs to be some sourced critical commentary about the logo itself for it to be deemed WP:NFCC compliant per WP:NFC#cite_note-4 and WP:NFCC#8, and being "former" in and of itself is not really enough. Given the way the files are currently being used, however, they seem unlikely to be kept as non-free unless more sourced content specifically related to the station's change in branding/logos is added to the article which actually discusses the logos themselves.These two former logo files might actually be WP:PD based upon there simplicity of design at least in the US, and that would be a valid thing t discuss on their respective talk pages. I've seen non-free files tagged for CSD converted to PD by the reviewing admin when this has been brought up, but again the best way to bring it up is by posting on the file's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:27, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Davey, I really appreciated your kind message, and I wish you and your family and loved ones the greatest of peace, happiness and absence of any worries or stress, for this festival and for all time to come. Si. Simon Adler (talk) 02:12, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Hey Si, Long time no see me ol' mucker, Thanks so much and I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a peaceful and happy new year, Take care, Dave /// –Davey2010Talk13:47, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2020!
Hello Davey2010, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020. Happy editing, TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:01, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Hello Davey2010, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020. Happy editing, dawnleelynn(talk)17:04, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Dear Davey2010, MERRYCHRISTMAS!!! Best wishes to you, your family and relatives this holiday season! Take this opportunity to bond with your loved ones, whether or not are you celebrating Christmas. This is a special time for everybody, and spread the holiday spirit to everybody out there! From a fellow editor, --— YoungForever(talk)17:14, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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BOZ (talk) is wishing you a MerryChristmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaming/MC2008}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. If you don't like Christmas or just don't celebrate it in any of its forms, then please accept a generic "Happy Holidays". If you celebrate no holidays at this time of year, then hopefully you will be satisfied with an even more generic "Season's Greetings". :) BOZ (talk) 21:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi BOZ, Thanks so much and I wish you and yours a fantastic Crimbo and a very happy and healthy new year,
Also off-topic but have you ever thought about removing the last paragraph inre to not liking or celebrating Christmas? .... You shouldn't need to be afraid of offending anyone over Christmas greetings and you shouldn't feel the need to justify your own greeting - Offence is taken, not given :) (I wish everyone a Merry Christmas regardless of religion or whatnot - If they're offended then hey ho)
Thank you Davey2010, I wish you and your family all the best for this holiday season. Bless you and stay safe. Cheers! Koplimek (talk) 23:20, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Davey! All the warmest wishes for this seasonal occasion, whichever you celebrate - or don't, while I swelter at 27℃ (80.6℉), and peace and prosperity for 2020. Hoping that you'll join me for a cool beer in Bangkok in August when it will be even hotter! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:07, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. ―Buster7☎14:11, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Hello Davey2010, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020. Happy editing,7&6=thirteen (☎)19:27, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Good luck
豊かな十年へようこそ/WELCOME TO THE D20s
Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune.
このミラPはDavey2010たちのメリークリスマスも新年も変革と幸運の豊かな十年をおめでとうございます！ フレフレ、みんなの未来！/GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FUTURE! ミラP03:19, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2020!
Hello Davey2010, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020. Happy editing, Donner60 (talk) 06:30, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Hello Davey2010, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020. Happy editing, AmaryllisGardenertalk08:13, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Coffee/Holidays}} to your fellow editors' talk pages.
Merry Christmas!!
Merry Christmas Davey!! Thank you for spreading the cheer one more year. I also wish that you enjoy a great holiday together with your loved ones and send you a hug from Spain. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 10:45, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
A Shaker greeting
A Shaker Christmas wish
Give good gifts, one to another Peace, joy and comfort gladly bestow Harbor no ill 'gainst sister or brother Smooth life's journey as you onward go. Broad as the sunshine, free as the showers. So shed an influence blessing to prove; Give for the noblest of efforts your pow'rs; Blest and be blest, is the law of love.
Apologies - I'm a bit late with my cards this year. :-)
Hi Ser Amantio di Nicolao, No worries late's better than never .... well that's my motto anyway :), Many thanks for your greeting and I hope you had a great Xmas and hope you have a happy, peaceful and prosperousNew Year, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk23:58, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
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