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To The New - G4?Hi DGG, just wondering if To The New is G4 eligible? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2021News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021). 
For David Goodman: Draft page Robert Ehrlich (physicist)Dear David, I found your comments on my first attempt to provide a new Wikipedia page both germane and helpful. I've extensively rewritten the draft. Can you review it again, please? I had follow-up from two other people, and (in order to be tactful here) will simply say that I'd prefer that you be the one to take things forward. The draft is here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Robert_Ehrlich_(physicist). If you care to contact me directly via email (which is my usual preferred means of communication), my address is . And by the way, I am a retired librarian. 24.210.152.37 (talk) 18:06, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Hallo DGG, you had commented on the draft]; I've sourced it, expanded, and moved to mainspace. I trust you're OK with this. She does seem to be notable. PamD 15:56, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
National Register of Historic PlacesDid this ever make it? I ask because there is a User talk:Drmies#Furniture emergency! Uncle G (talk) 22:00, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Karlin Lillington articleHi DGG, I am working now on further referencing re. the above, which you moved to Draft, but I would like to seek guidance on what was considered not ready for mainspace. I have reviewed, copyedited and referenced thousands of articles, and I am careful in my drafting and research, and test with ORES - and I just can't quite see what was so fundamentally lacking. Perhaps a tag or two, but you did not have time to provide comments (I am aware that you are very active but de-mainspacing is a big step, something I have not had happen before). Were you unhappy with the number of references drawing on the subject's own articles? This can happen with a journalist, and many of these pieces are in the highly-supervised aegis of The Irish Times. The subject is a noted commentator, recognised as such by the leading book on Ireland's paper of record (one of the few of its journalists with multiple mentions in the professorial text - as cited). Thanks, SeoR (talk) 07:59, 7 April 2021 (UTC) I apologize for I could have handled this better. --
mail! It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC) Journal of Paramedic PracticeThank you for your input with this, I am trying to add more independent sources. user RandyKitty has again placed a speedy deletion on the page, and as I understand it, as I am page creator I cannot (should not) delete this. I agree the article is currently not perfect - which is why it is held in drafts. I am working to improve it - and it does now have more independent citations. I would welcome your advice, as I feel Speedy Deletion is not the best option. Thanks in advance. Tannim101 (talk) 09:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Please review Draft:Silvan Loher after changes madeDear DGG (talk), I have now made changes to attend the suggestions you made to this project (Draft:Silvan Loher) which was initially declined on 25 November: adjectivations and wrong phrases deleted, a secondary reference to a national press source added, also a critique commentary about the CD. I hope this will improve the draft to an appropriate stage for its publication in the mainspace. Very many thanks for your kind help.
AFC AcceptancesYouu may be working too fast for the script again. Any chance you can double check your last few acceptances in Category:Pending AfC submissions in article space please? Fiddle Faddle 12:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC) Climate List GermanyHey, i want talk about the article Draft:Climate_List_(Germany). So the Climate List was on two state elections and had ~0.9%. So there is also a german article and so i think it is important. :) I have added the results. Best regards KatastrophenKommando (talk) 12:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC) Your expertiseHey, hello, hope you are well! I seem to be back to ask you the same kind of question I've asked previously. (At least it's not about an academic this time.) I've been trying to make a dent in old AfC submissions. I don't think that Matthew Joseph Flynn's notability can be established via the references used, but I think he may meet notability based on his previous role in government. Can you take a look? (It's five weeks old.) Thank you! Julie JSFarman (talk) 00:01, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 12 April 2021 (UTC) Feedback request: Wikipedia proposals request for commentKarlin Lillington articleHi DGG, I am working now on further referencing re. the above, which you moved to Draft, but I would like to seek guidance on what was considered not ready for mainspace. I have reviewed, copyedited and referenced thousands of articles, and I am careful in my drafting and research, and test with ORES - and I just can't quite see what was so fundamentally lacking. Perhaps a tag or two, but you did not have time to provide comments (I am aware that you are very active but de-mainspacing is a big step, something I have not had happen before). Were you unhappy with the number of references drawing on the subject's own articles? This can happen with a journalist, and many of these pieces are in the highly-supervised aegis of The Irish Times. The subject is a noted commentator, recognised as such by the leading book on Ireland's paper of record (one of the few of its journalists with multiple mentions in the professorial text - as cited). Thanks, SeoR (talk) 07:59, 7 April 2021 (UTC) I apologize for I could have handled this better. --
Journal of Paramedic PracticeThank you for your input with this, I am trying to add more independent sources. user RandyKitty has again placed a speedy deletion on the page, and as I understand it, as I am page creator I cannot (should not) delete this. I agree the article is currently not perfect - which is why it is held in drafts. I am working to improve it - and it does now have more independent citations. I would welcome your advice, as I feel Speedy Deletion is not the best option. Thanks in advance. Tannim101 (talk) 09:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Please review Draft:Silvan Loher after changes madeDear DGG (talk), I have now made changes to attend the suggestions you made to this project (Draft:Silvan Loher) which was initially declined on 25 November: adjectivations and wrong phrases deleted, a secondary reference to a national press source added, also a critique commentary about the CD. I hope this will improve the draft to an appropriate stage for its publication in the mainspace. Very many thanks for your kind help.
AFC AcceptancesYouu may be working too fast for the script again. Any chance you can double check your last few acceptances in Category:Pending AfC submissions in article space please? Fiddle Faddle 12:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC) Climate List GermanyHey, i want talk about the article Draft:Climate_List_(Germany). So the Climate List was on two state elections and had ~0.9%. So there is also a german article and so i think it is important. :) I have added the results. Best regards KatastrophenKommando (talk) 12:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Your expertiseHey, hello, hope you are well! I seem to be back to ask you the same kind of question I've asked previously. (At least it's not about an academic this time.) I've been trying to make a dent in old AfC submissions. I don't think that Matthew Joseph Flynn's notability can be established via the references used, but I think he may meet notability based on his previous role in government. Can you take a look? (It's five weeks old.) Thank you! Julie JSFarman (talk) 00:01, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 12 April 2021 (UTC) DGG if I could please get you to take another look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Omar_Ayesh. Thanks for your help. Most appreciated. Smilingbandit (talk) 18:08, 13 April 2021 (UTC) Changes made to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Omar_Ayesh based on your input -- any language that could be seen as peacocking changed, previous citation 24 removed, a few more added, and final line removed. Smilingbandit (talk) 23:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC) Greetings. I noticed via WP:BADAFD that this article had been tagged by you and linked to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Animal Booster Nutrition. That discussion is now closed and the article on the company has been deleted, but the founder wasn't actually mentioned or co-nominated in that discussion. I've therefore taken the liberty of untagging the Choudhary article, with no prejudice against a separate nomination. Thank you for you understanding. --Finngall talk 00:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Claudio de ReyesDavid, thank you for reviewing my draft. However, I do not agree with your evaluation "This is essentially speculation, over many centuries based on extremely minimal evidence" since many articles in wikipedia speculate based on extremely minimal evidence (e.g. Leif Erikson - He is thought to be the first known European to set foot on North America,[1] etc.). Jreyes101 (talk) 12:47, 14 April 2021 (UTC) References
There are two ways of stating the principle here, WP:EINSTEIN, and "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". There is excellent evidence that Leif Ericson landed somewhere n North America, as did a number of other Norse explorers. There remains some doubt about just who landed exactly where, but there is excellent well-accepted archeological results, as well as the rough consistency of a number of the the explorer's accounts. This draft on the other hand tries to build a genealogy with a gap of a thousand years. DGG ( talk ) 03:50, 15 April 2021 (UTC) Hello, David, Did you mean to restore this draft? You left a comment but the content had been deleted earlier today. Liz Read! Talk! 06:04, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Request on 16:54:53, 15 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 24.101.83.131
First here is the article in question. ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Naoki_Terada My first question is why has this article not been approved when the Japanese version has and is basically the same thing just translated? Japanese article ---> https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AF%BA%E7%94%B0%E5%B0%9A%E6%A8%B9 Also, I have been speaking with another reviewer, but I could not get a good answer from them regarding this. The other reviewer kept mentioning sources, but my partner found other similar articles that have much less sources than our article. Article 1 ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arata_Isozaki Article 2 ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazutoshi_Sat%C5%8D Any insight or help you could provide would be great since my partner is really eager to have this published and we have been working on it for a very long time. Thank you! 24.101.83.131 (talk) 16:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Edits to draft page of Robert Ehrlich (physicist) made April 15, 2021I've documented those edits, and further questions, in the talk page for the draft.2603:6010:4E42:500:9869:B813:E466:894C (talk) 18:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Feedback request: Media, the arts, and architecture request for comment Your feedback is requested at Talk:Viggo Mortensen on a "Media, the arts, and architecture" request for comment. Thank you for helping out! Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 07:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC) Promotional material on global health institutions?Hi DGG, I'm a newbie looking to work on the Burden of Disease pages. This is my master's thesis topic which I'm currently writing. Would love to have a chance to ask you some questions. I noticed you were involved [a debate] on Riceissa's work that first stemmed from his article on "Animal Charity Evaluators". This led to an investigation into the rest of his work, especially Vipul's paid editing. Riceissa was also [[2]]. Can I ask you some questions on what went down, especially the following: (1) Your key concern about pages on organizations, "What I am much more concerned about is the articles on organizations" (2) How widespread and urgent this was, considering your [on a different talk page] that "This particular case very much needs discussion, and preferably not just between the two of us." Can I ask some detailed questions about this incident, here or elsewhere? Thanks for considering! --Whiskiz (talk) 15:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Appropriate to remove the cleanup and notability on a page?Greetings DGG, We've never worked on any projects, except for one article. Anyways when I first created the Carlos Felipe de Habsburgo article, I will admit I had no experience on how to write articles or know how to properly go in par with the citations. I will comment and admit I thought at first it was appropriate since the same article in Spanish was written similarly (which got removed months later in the Spanish version). Thank you for placing both the cleanup and notability tags on them, and they've been useful. But now that I got a bit of free time, I decided to clean up the page and make sure everything within the article, was in-line with the citations, and whenever possible, write it as neutral as possible, without any "yellow journalism","libelous", and sensational content. I wanted to know your opinion if it's appropriate to remove the templates, and if not, I don't mind going back and fixing it. Thanks for taking the time to read into my thread. JayzBox (talk) 00:18, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
--Wikimedia New York City Team 00:30, 18 April 2021 (UTC) courtesy ping as you dePRODded. Hope you're doing relatively well my friend. StarM 00:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
I saw that you voted to keep this article in an AfD in 2013. I was preparing to nominate it for deletion again, as I am not seeing notability deriving from founding the organization, but I would like your thoughts on it first. Does your opinion remain the same? BD2412 T 05:43, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
I am not sure why I am receiving this message. I disclosed my connection to the subject as follows: This user has made a public declaration indicating that he has a conflict of interest with regard to the following Wikipedia article(s):Karen E. Knudsen. Also, Karen E. Knudsen was published at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_E._Knudsen. I worked with Jimfbleak who approved my connection to my subject as I disclosed the conflict. Karen E. Knudsen is not the account holder and did not write the article. Thanks, User:Irish breakfast 72
Hi David, thanks for leaving suggestions on my draft. I have now made changes according to your comments. Specifically, I have added the 5 most cited articles according to Google Scholar, and removed some minor material. I welcome any further advice on how I can improve the page. Thank you for the help. Ongjjay (talk) 20:11, 20 April 2021 (UTC) Ongjjay , you need to indicate the number of citations. DGG ( talk ) 19:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC) Thank you for the edits made on the page and the comment. I have added the h-index and total number of citations Ongjjay (talk) 17:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Discussion at WP:THQ § Why my wikipedia page got rejected?
I have sent you a note about a page you reviewedHello, DGG Thank you for creating Sankaran Thayumanavan. User:Robert McClenon, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.) Robert McClenon (talk) 03:20, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Question about Rejection of Pima Community College FoundationHello, You recently rejected the article I created for PCC Foundation. You said that the subject didn't warrant it's own page because it could fit on Pima Community College's page. I do, however, believe that it should be its own separate page. It is its own separate non-profit organization and is actually not run by Pima Community College anymore. The Foundation has its own Board of Directors that runs it, which is completely separate from the Board of Governors that runs the college. The Foundation really is a separate entity from the college. Seeing as there are articles that have less cause to have their own article, is there any chance you could reconsider your verdict? Are there any other things you believe the article would need to have in order to more clearly showcase its need for its own article? Please let me know if you have any other questions that I can answer. Thank you for your help BrookeLe13 (talk) 05:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)BrookeLe13
I have actually seen an article about a foundation. The one I saw was the Jefferson Scholars Foundation which performs that function for The University of Virginia. I see what you are saying, but I think that an organization with its own history would be hard to fit into another page smoothly and in a way that made sense without taking away from the main topic of the page. Thank you again BrookeLe13 (talk) 07:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Brookele13
Thank you for looking into it for me BrookeLe13 (talk) 17:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)BrookeLe13 Notify admin 02:54, 15 July 2013I was alerted to a 02:54, 15 July 2013 logged action of deletion. This is a draft version for your review in 5,544 pending submissions. Any feedback is welcomed and critiques will be taken to heart. ~
Alissa KoleHello, I have seen some pages with every publication they have made. I just copied a similar format. She has contributed to various international conferences and economic plans, including the United Nations and G20. How is she not notable for Wikipedia? I will ask other editors to make the tone neutral because I am not sure on how to do this. Thank you!
Hey DGG, Thank you for taking the time to reply me. Well, I know Alissa Kole personally, but I am not involve in any paid editing. I think it's my fault for copying the format and content structure from another page. I am unable to find that page, but that author had similar listing (reports, articles, etc.) i.e., they had listed each and every article that was published, whether significant or not. Anyway, I asked for help, and editors have removed most of the part. So, I don't know how I prove her notability, but she is a well-known Economist throughout the Middle East and Europe, as you can see in the videos/conferences (that were listed). She was a key member for OECD. She contributed to Ted talk, United Nations and G20 too. Many governments consult her regarding their economy status. If many countries consult her on her opinions, then she must be of some importance, right??? Her articles are also published regularly on Harvard Law site and many other big sites. Please tell me what can be done to make this is a successful experience :) Do I need to remove more content? Neomar995 (talk) 04:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC) I'm shocked that you accepted this articles for creation submission. If you check the sources in the article, hardly any of the content is verifiable. Sentences like "Of particular focus will be judicial confirmation battles, and a broader effort to reshape the federal judiciary, promote a deregulatory agenda, and expand the place of religion in society," sourced, by the way, to The Daily Signal, which I don't think is even an WP:RS (not that it even verifies the content that is attributed to it, but still). Could you explain your thinking on this? I think a speedy deletion is in order. Marquardtika (talk) 14:09, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Special delvery mail!It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. Smallbones(smalltalk) 15:10, 23 April 2021 (UTC) Maliban Biscuit Manufactories LimitedI removed your tag from Maliban Biscuit Manufactories Limited, as there was no reason given for the tag in your edit summary or on the article talk page, and the tag alone does not provide enough information to help other editors improve the article. Ibadibam (talk) 21:24, 23 April 2021 (UTC) Guidance on Draft:Wendy VidelockHi DGG, I've been editing a draft for a potential page for poet Wendy Videlock. I noticed you had commented on the page in November that you believe she did qualify under notability guidelines. This is something I agree with, but I'm not sure how to move forward. I believe the page accurately reflects her notable contributions (e.g. like you said, being published in many anthologies, or even being a finalist for Colorado Poet Laureate for instance). Do you have suggestions on further edits or pathways forward? I'm relatively new to the editing space for Wikipedia, so appreciate any help! Shivpp (talk) 23:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello Sir, I have recently made some edits in the subject [[3]]. Kindly have a look. Thanks and best regards RV (talk) 04:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Olalekan JeyifousHey, I am thinking of moving (Draft: Olalekan Jeyifous) to article space. You had objections on notability some time ago. Since then the artist received the 2021 United States Artist Prize, is currently exhibiting work at the MoMA and has some other notable projects since. What do you think? Soupmaker (talk) 02:38, 26 April 2021 (UTC)Soupmaker
Draft: Kurt AppelDear Mr. DGG, I am currently trying to improve the draft for the article on the professor of theology and religious philosophy Kurt Appel. On the draft page, you have commented that there are still "reviews needed" to meet the notability-guidelines. Since I am new to WP I would like to ask you what kind of reviews are suitable for providing enough evidence: Do you mean reviews of his works by others that have been published in academic journals? It would really help a lot if you could give me some examples of what kind of reviews would qualify (I am thinking about adding a few references to the journals in which he holds important positions (notably the Journal „Religion and Transformation in Contemporary Society“ (JRAT) that is published by BRILL) etc.) Thanks a lot in advance, --Marianowitsch (talk) 11:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC) Marianowitsch . What is needed are substantial reviews in third-party published independent reliable sources, not press releases, blurbs, blogs, Amazon, or Goodreads. Since his works are academic works, they would be expected to be in reliable academic journals in the field. His being a member of a n editor board is not significant--only editor in chief counts. In the bibliography, works he has written and cowritten are considered significant; works of which is has been a coeditor, much less so. Journal articles do not normally counts at all, and are omitted in the humanities unless they can be shown to have been influential. A description of his interest, must be based on third party sources, especially when it amounts to advocacy for his ideas. I am very much interested in getting articles onnotable people in this fields into Wikipedia , but it is very difficult unles the meet the requirements of WP:PROF for a named professorship, or head of a national society, or have been the author of many influential books. I think at this point it is simply too early in his career. DGG ( talk ) 13:41, 26 April 2021 (UTC) Thanks for your quick and detailed answer! It's a bit overwhelming to be a newbie on WP ;) so your advice helps me a lot! --Marianowitsch (talk) 12:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC) I hope I am not being a pain by asking further questions but I have started to work my way into the rabbit hole of WP and some things seem to get more and more confusing: I was trying to find out how articles about other professors in the field of theology show the notability of their subjects, just to get a better grasp of what matters/how to do it and I came by an article about a German prof. of theology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniela_M%C3%BCller). I am not trying to badmouth her academic work or sth. - but I wonder how her article manages to meet the notability-criteria: is it simply the fact that she is the editor of a book-series that is enough to proof academic notability? Or have the criteria simply changed over time and articles that were written before can't be judged by today's standards? Thank's in advance for your answer! Marianowitsch (talk) 15:48, 14 May 2021 (UTC) Draft: Stefanie Tompkins (head of DARPA)I agree with your statement that
Hoffman & Associates Article DraftHello and thanks for reviewing the Hoffman & Associates draft. If you don't mind, I think a little more feedback could help be determine which way to move with this draft. Would you say that it's possible to correct the tone enough to eventually pass review? Or do you think the subject has a notability threshold issue that a tone adjustment couldn't really help. Thanks and any feedback is appreciated. SBCornelius (talk) 17:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for reviving my pageI just want to thank you for helping revive my page Central Powers intervention in the Russian Civil War. I made it in May of 2020 but did not continue to try and improve it so it could stay a proper page and not be a draft. I did not expect to see it return again as I came back to look on the russian civil war page but found the page I made in the theaters box. So I just want to say thank you for doing so and looking forward to the page thriving [[User:JoshRamirez29|JoshRamir Hello DGG, Since you are an admin who has expressed concern about the use of "Discretionary Sanctions", I thought it might be best to ask you: is there an quick and easy way to see if any given article has DS applied? I wish to stringently avoid such articles entirely until (and unless) the serious issues you and others have identified with this policy are fixed, but even for an article that I know from discussion elsewhere has DS, I don't see where it's marked that way. ShashakiroSH (talk) 23:18, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Request on 14:15:28, 3 May 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by JulieKB1953
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