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User talk:Clubmarx/Archive 2
SE&CVI haven't even finished the inital edits and you have already proposed it for deletion. I could at least finish the inital layout before you want toe remove it? The page is what 1 hour old if that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vchapman (talk • contribs) 16:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
The Greatest Hits EP (album) - Request for Speedy DeletionPlease read the new section on the article's talk page.--Davis Junior (talk) 17:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC) Proposed deletion of SrixonI have removed the {{prod}} tag from Srixon, which you proposed for deletion, because I think that this article should not be deleted from Wikipedia. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! --bigissue (talk) 22:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello, you've marked Gordon Levett as needing copy-editing of some sort, although I'm unclear as to your suggestion. Is it the tone you're concerned about? Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I have removed your tag on the piece after over 100 subsequent edits, adding history, removing quotes, rewriting, etc. MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:09, 16 October 2008 (UTC) If wiki thinks that i m providing fake information please drop a message. i'll not write any article on wiki. I do have my own work its better me to run my business rather than write an article on wikDear What i do is i search people on net or surrounding to me those are notable. I dont care whether they have enogh links on net or not. If people are doing something notable for society are notable at my glance. I understand that wiki has some policies for that. If you people are very adamant for deleting any one, you are free. My job is searching people and create an article on the person. if that is notable or not this is the job auditor and administrators of wiki. If wiki thinks that i m providing fake information please drop a message. i'll not write any article on wiki. I do have my own work its better me to run my business rather than write an article on wiki. As wiki is working as non profitable organisation. i though to help wiki and update it. But if wiki and its employee thinks they do not need support. I also not very eager to provide my knowledge to wiki. There are many articles which i created but deleted by Administrators but later on these article again created by wiki. Regards Sameer Sameergoswami (talk) 04:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
New page patrollingHi there! I've been going through the New Pages log, particularly the back end of it. I've come across a few articles that you've nominated for deletion that haven't been patrolled (e.g Samuel James). I was wondering if you could make sure that you mark an article as patrolled before you tag it for deletion (or any other tag) as then it won't show up on the list, which will save people patrolling an article that has already been looked at by an experienced editor like yourself. Please accept my apologies if you are doing this and the software is lagging behind, or if you're just tagging articles that you're coming across from a different source that doesn't allow you to patrol them. Thanks in advance! --Ged UK (talk) 13:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
A to Z mysteriesI have removed your db-bio tag from the article, as the article is not about a person or group, and books are specifically excluded from db-bio. I have instead added a PROD tag to try and spur the editor to add some context or a summary, or something to show why the article should be kept.--Terrillja (talk) 14:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Is your userpage vandalized?See recent edits. Just making sure. Green caterpillar (talk) 23:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Paul Elgin articleHello, I have had this page reviewed by another Wikipedia moderator, and was given the ok, provided we provided sources and references, and remove suggestive advertising. Wikipedia's policy does not require an individual to be POPULAR in order for an article to be written; they require NOTABILITY, which was provided within the article, with references / cross references. There is no direct correlation between us and Mr. Paul Elgin. Authors do reserve the right to create a username of their choosing, as long as any article they contribute does not show bias or support. This article about Mr. Paul Elgin is completely unbiased, factual, and verifyable. We feel that it is unfair for one or a group of individuals to determine a person or company's value, accomplishments, influence, or recognition soley based on that group or individual's independent knowledge of the person of subject within the article; it should be based on facts. If the content of the article is supported by references, we believe the article should qualify. Whether or not Mr. Elgin has received any awards or A-list recognition should not have a bearing on whether or not the things his companies have accomplished are factual, unbiased, and supported. Please consider this article for inclusion, as we see that it fits all of Wikipedia's authoring guidelines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Htentceo (talk • contribs) 02:16, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, that's fair, but what is unfair is you posting that opinion in the discussion which could change the consensus of the debate and thus influence or steer other users from voting a certain way, thus showing bias. What do you think? It also seems very "convenient" that every delete comment is from a Wiki moderator. Should I draw the same conclusions as you?Htentceo (talk) 00:35, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Well I apologize for miscategorizing you. I guess when we view yours these other's pages, they have elaborate set-ups, which gives the impression of a moderator. However that now brings up another question: Aren't moderators the only ones that are allowed to put an article up for deletion? Or are they the only ones that can actually delete them? Does anyone have the authority to place strikethroughs on votes? I'm just trying to understand here. The only reason why we keep re-commenting within the debate is because we feel like we have to respond to everything YOU say, which seems to be in disapproval of inclusion of this article, which, of course you are entitled to disapprove, but don't you think its only fair for other editors to come to their own conclusions? Htentceo (talk) 02:01, 18 October 2008 (UTC) Hi. I took your db-bio tag off this article because (a) it is about a company, not a person, and (b) it seems to me (at least now, maybe not when you tagged it) to be adequately referenced. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
You Don't Know Much About Mexican ArtMaybe you've had a couple of Chicano or Mexican friends, but that does not qualify you to determine what is a movement in Mexican art. You've never studied Mexican art, or your would have known that the Skull in Mexian art from the time of the Aztec's to present Mexican art has a long a profound tradition in Mexican art and culture. So don't try to show off your lack of knowledge about Mexican Art in Wikipedia, it makes Wikipedia look bad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.2.129.29 (talk) 07:09, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
removal of speedy templateWhy are you templating an Admin?? I declined the speedy as the article did not meet G1 criteria. It is about a fictional subject. One may remove a DB tag from an article he did not create. My suggestion would be to AFD. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 01:53, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Please review WP:CSD carefullyYou tagged West field, an article about a school for speedy deletion under WP:CSD#A7 which applies to a very specific group of topics which not only don't include schools, but specifically flags schools as an example of things not covered under the criterion. Furthermore you tagged the page with {{db-person}} which should only be applied when you are seeking deletion under A7 of a biography of a human being. I did actually delete the article as failing to provide meaningful content but that's neither here nor there. Please review the CSD criteria and the CSD templates for applying them more carefully.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
tagging articlesHi. I noticed you are adding a lot of tags to articles using Friendly. Many editors do not find it particularly useful to add the "unreferenced" or "uncategorized" or "wikify" tags to articles that are only about 5 minutes old. I have had some users get downright upset at me in the past for this type of behavior. The reasons are that most very brief stubs are unreferenced, and adding links and categories only takes a few seconds with such articles, suggesting to some the "tagger" is not interested in simply fixing the problem themselves but only in adding tags. Putting three separate tags on a two line stub that is only a few seconds old [4] is not really helpful, if you feel you must add so many tags to very brief new articles, please use {{articleissues}} and list the problems on the talk page. I'm telling you this because I used to do the same thing, and all it got me was a lot of grief. Your fellow editors will appreciate it a lot more if you add links and categories to articles instead of just tagging. Thanks for your time. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC) Speedy deletion of WP SuspensionThank you for deleting the article I wrote about WP Suspension, claiming that it failed to show why the subject is notable. Now that you have deleted the article I am unable to quote from it. However, the article may have mentioned that this Dutch company is a leading manufacturer of front and rear suspension units for motorcycles that has been trading for 30 years. Its suspension units have been fitted as original equipment on thousands of sporting motorcycles built by Buell, CCM, Gas Gas, Husaberg, KTM, MZ and other motorcycle manufacturers. WP suspension has been fitted to many other motorcycles as aftermarket upgrades. Several Wikipedia motorcycle articles refer to WP Suspension and Wikipedia has an article written in Dutch about WP's Progressive Damping System [5]. WP is now a subsidiary of KTM, and therefore a description of WP Suspension is an essential part of describing KTM's corporate structure and activity. I trust that you considered all these factors, each of which is substantiated by WP's own website [6], before tagging the article for deletion. I note that you used category A7 to delete the article. A7 itself says that the criteria for why a subject is important or significant "is a lower standard than notability; to avoid speedy deletion an article does not have to prove that its subject is notable, just give a reasonable indication of why it might be notable". Please state which of WP's achievements in the last 30 years you consider rendered this leading motorcycle components manufacturer unworthy of note on Wikipedia. Motacilla (talk) 23:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC) You've had my message for a week and I'd be pleased if you would reply with your explanation. I wrote the WP Suspension article because there is already one about one of WP's competitors: the Swedish manufacturer Öhlins. How is Öhlins worthy of Wikipedia but not WP? Motacilla (talk) 23:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
A week ago you cited CSD A7, despite the fact that the article gave amlpe reasons why WP Suspension and its products were important. Now you claim that there was no good source for the article, which is a different criterion and forms no part of CSD A7. All the information that I used is substantiated by WP's own company website. Google lists 17,300 references to WP, including hundreds of traders who sell WP products, but few of them add much to the company's own account of itself so it wasn't worth my adding them as references. Terrillja cites WP:NOTDIRECTORY. The article I wrote was not a directory entry. It followed the style of any other short article describing a motorcycle related-company. It briefly described WP Suspension's history, its current ownership by KTM and its importance as a components supplier to various motorcycle manufacturers. It was useful, as several Wikipedia articles mention WP or its products without giving a description and I was able to give each such mention a link to the article. Terrillja refers also to WP:GNG. Well, the Articles not satisfying the notability guidelines section of GNG says: Although articles should demonstrate the notability of their topics, and articles on topics that do not meet this criteria are generally deleted, it is important to not just consider whether notability is established by the article, but whether it readily could be...
(Bold italicised emphases mine.) You didn't ask the article's creator. Did you ask anyone from WikiProject Motorcycling? Which of the above suggestions did you follow before tagging the article for speedy deletion? Motacilla (talk) 23:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I already wrote the article "trying to meet all relevant guidelines" - and you deleted it apparently without good reason. Why not acknowledge that, instead of trying to put the onus on me? Why should I spend valuable time repeating my work, when the risk is that it could be deleted again with similarly excessive haste, for a similarly inadequate reason and without adequate time for discussion? A fortnight ago I asked an admin to send me a copy of the deleted article. If I receive a copy I might recreate the page and see what happens. To date I've received no reply. Given that it was your decision to delete that caused me all this inconvenience, why don't you request a copy of the deleted article and reconsider whether you were right to list it for speedy deletion? Motacilla (talk) 00:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion of Darth pandaThanks for the speedy delete of that attack page! That's the second time in two days actually, and I'm quite happy to see vandals recognizing my prominence! DARTH PANDAtalk 01:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Office robbery deproddedHi! I thought I would let you know that Office robbery, whose proposed deletion you had seconded, was deprodded by 70.232.80.232 with no explanation. Maethordaer (talk) 14:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC) AmericantaxpayerCheck out User:Concernedtaxpayer and User talk:71.56.152.245, both appear to be socks. Working on the sockpuppet reports now. --Terrillja (talk) 02:12, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
212-extremedont deleted 212-extreme please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212xtreme212 (talk • contribs) 05:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Worthiness of PLAY PRODUCTIONThe Meadowdale High School theater is a valuable venue in the Edmonds/Lynnwood, WA community. Students, teachers, and others can use this page (which a link on the Meadowdale HS page) to find out what is happening at the Black Box Theater, and what plays the Play Production class is staging. There is no good reason to delete this article. MoiAussi3 (talk) 00:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
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