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@ImDaniels1: Well, it has been deleted now but not by me. If you're going to recreate it, I suggest you go through WP:AFC so you'll have ample time to work on it, or you can go to WP:REFUND or talk to the deleting administrator (Kudpung) if you want it back to work on some more. clpo13(talk)18:58, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the note on what is my first entry into Wikipedia. I appreciate the information and references.
I am however dismayed by this "judgement." What is the difference between citing the Make CA Count website vs. the oft referenced links to The National Popular Vote website? The reality is that nobody can refute what the Supreme Court will say with respect to the 12th Amendment rights because the case has not yet been made.
I will research how to cite within the article as I have not yet learned how to do this.
- Proof of my edit is right and the Anglo–Spanish War (1625–1630) was an spanish victory:
Frances Gardiner Davenport, European treaties bearing on the history of the United States and its Dependencies, Washington D.C. 1917 Page 305.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
Frances Gardiner Davenport, European treaties Page 306.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
Frances Gardiner Davenport, European treaties Page 307.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
- Proof of my edit is right and the Anglo–Spanish War (1585–1604) was an spanish victory:
"The first item of James' agenda was to bring to a close the long standing war with Spain. This was done by the Treaty of London in August 1604. Its terms were flagantry generous to the Spanish, the first black mark against the new king. Moreover James, unlike Elizabeth, had every intention of honoring them." Burgess, Douglas: The Pirates' Pact: The Secret Alliances Between History's Most Notorious Buccaneers and Colonial America. McGraw-Hill Professional, 2008, page 29. ISBN0-07-147476-5Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
(this proof appears in the wikipedia link itslef of the treaty of london of 1604 in the note number 10)
- Proof of my edit is right and the War of Jenkins' Ear was an spanish victory:
Casado Rabanal, David (2009). La Marina Ilustrada. Sueño y Ambición de la España del XVIII. Ediciones Antigona - Ministerio de Defensa. ISBN978-84-92531-06-6. Page 250.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
I´ve just cited the proofs to demostrate my edits are right. I hope that the fact of my edits were removed is based only in a mistaken instead of in an attemp of not recognizing some historical evidences....
Regarding the use of the word "Prominent" - that is just a well-documented fact. It's not subjective, as the word "prominent" can refer to someone/something that's negative or it can be positive -- its completely neutral and takes no position one way or the other. Please reconsider your edit. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:199:4100:DE0:D4B3:D939:5240:4150 (talk) 21:06, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #223
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
WikiShootMe has a lot of new updates: OAuth-based image upload button, uploads to Commons and adds to Wikidata item with one click, right-click on the map to add a missing item, build-in Wikidata search, free images search (example for Central Cambridge)
A famous Italian song, Tanti Auguri by Raffaella Carrà, states "Com'è bello far l'amore da Trieste in giù" (literally, in English: "How great it is to make love from Trieste to below"). This is a query to find out where you shouldn't make love.
You were right. I definitely took heat for that action! An ANI discussion from an ANI discussion, I might just stay away from that noticeboard. I still think it was the right thing to do though. -- Dane2007talk21:02, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
I agree. Whatever certain editors may say, an RFC will be a clear indicator of consensus one way or the other. clpo13(talk)21:04, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
That's what I feel like too. And none of them have added a comment to the RfC yet so I find that interesting. Rather than be productive they want to argue about it. -- Dane2007talk21:07, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
I was unaware of that but I will not revert unless someone gives me a good reason why there should be two comments to the same effect. clpo13(talk)21:47, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
Clpo13, I think the warning you issued to Gap5200 was a little bit harsh, especially when it was obvious the removal of content they made to 2020 Summer Olympics was a duplication of the first paragraph from the section 2020 Summer Olympics#Development and preparation. I have the page on my watchlist , and at first was about to do the same and revert their edit for blanking. But when I noticed they removed duplicate content, I left it there and assume good faith. Anyhow, I have fixed the problem and given the user a nice welcome. Perhaps a plate of cookies or some Wikilove from yourself might be a nice gesture to make!? Wes Mouse✒00:20, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
I may have been hasty in reverting (a new account removing information without an edit summary is usually suspect), but I don't think my warning was overly harsh. clpo13(talk)06:20, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Bit of a contradictory statement and a half is that one. You acknowledge you were hasty in reverting a newbie who actually made a constructive edit, yet still felt it right to issue them a warning for an edit which was constructive and helpful? So your warning to the newbie was incorrectly issued, as you have warned them for doing something bad, when in actual fact they did something good. You can't let the warning stand just because it was your bad judgement for not spotting their constructive edit. Nice way to scare of newcomers, when Wikipedia is dwindling in editors as it is. The poor guy/gal will be thinking they did something wrong. Do the right thing, remove the warning, and give them some wikilove as a goodwill and apologetic gesture. Wes Mouse✒13:30, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The ORES review tool is now available on Special:Contributions as a beta feature. It can make it easier to find contributions that are probably damaging the wikis. The ORES review tool is available on Wikidata and Persian, Polish, Portuguese, Dutch, Turkish and Russian Wikipedia. [1]
The norm and ccnorm functions have been updated to make it easier to write abuse filters. This also affects the TitleBlacklist extension. You don't have to transform "I" and "L" to "1", "O" to "0" and "S" to "5" anymore. [2]
The old pageview data in the "pagecounts-raw" and "pagecounts-all-sites" files is no longer being updated. You can find the new pageview data here. This happened on August 5. [3]
Problems
Some big image files could not be thumbnailed. This has now been fixed. [4]
When you moved a page over a redirect it would delete the redirect without saving it in the logs. This has now been fixed. [5]
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 August. It will be on all wikis from 25 August (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 23 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
Sometimes when you mention another user they don't get a notification. You will be able to get a notification when you successfully sent out a mention to someone or be told if they did not get a notification. This will be opt-in. You can test this on the test wiki. [6][7]
How you add text after an edit conflict might work in a different way in the future. You can test the prototype. [8]
Planet to Earth: this tool uses data from Wikidata to visualise the links between places on an astronomical body named after a place on planet Earth.
WikiDataScape is a Cytoscape app for interactive browsing of Wikidata.
The property "KML file" was created last week (see list below) and has already a full list of values, sample LUA module and property documentation page available (Property talk:P3096)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Wikimedia mobile sites now don't load images if the user doesn't see them. This is to save mobile data and make the pages load faster. [9]
When you edit a table with the visual editor, pressing Tab in the last cell of a row will take you to the first cell in the next row. Pressing Shift and Tab in the first cell of a row will take you to the last cell in the previous row. [10]
Changes this week
The name of the "Save page" button will change. The button will say "Publish page" when you create a new page. It will say "Publish changes" when you change an existing page. [11][12]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 August. It will be on all wikis from 1 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 30 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
The date of birth is wrong. We know it's wrong because the birth certificate exists. There are links for both the right and the wrong date of birth.
Why would we choose the wrong one?
Imagine if all the Wikipedia was based on that principle. What would its value be? It would not have a zero value, it would have a negative value as a corrupter of factual information.
Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited William Tete Luo, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Prodigy. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.
Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Burlington-Edison School District, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Washington. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Word-level diffs now work in longer paragraphs. [13]
Interactive maps now have a frame by default. This is to make them look like other multimedia objects. This affects all Wikivoyages, the Catalan, Hebrew, Macedonian Wikipedias and Meta. [14]
When you preview the MediaWiki:Captcha-ip-whitelist page it will show a validation output of the listed IP addresses instead of the list of addresses only. This can help you to identify if your whitelist rules will work or not. [15]
Changes this week
You will be able to use <maplink> on all Wikipedias. It creates a link to a full screen map. [16][17]
Sometimes when you mention another user they don't get a notification. You will be able to get a notification when you successfully send out a mention to someone or be told if they did not get a notification. This will be opt-in. [18][19]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 September. It will be on all wikis from 8 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
The NPP backlog now stands at 13,158 total unreviewed pages.
Just to recap:
13 July 2016: 7,000
1 August 2016: 9,000
7 August 2016: 10,472
16 August 2016: 11,500
28 August 2016: 13,158
You naturally don't have to feel obliged, but if there's anything you can do it would be most appreciated. I've spent 40 hours on it this week but it's only a drop in the ocean.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:36, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Welsh Wikipedia includes Wikidata-based article placeholders, like this one
Wiki Loves Monuments started! You can help by improving the items about heritage buildings or use Wikishootme to find unpictured monuments
English Wikipedia now has a WikiProject Wikidata to coordinate integration with Wikidata. Why not start one for your local Wikipedia? Add it to Q20855878 if you do.
There has been a long history of undisclosed WP:COI editing happening at John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, mostly by members of that organization's social media team and possibly others as well. In tandem with that, as you have noticed, is an odd and inexplicable effort to whitewash the organization's history and ideological origins from the page. If current edit warring persists, I will file a report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Thanks for your efforts to preserve well-sourced content. Safehaven86 (talk) 22:26, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
I get the feeling certain parties object to the label of liberal as a smear of sorts, especially given the opposition to "unabashedly conservative sources" like WSJ. Hopefully there won't be any further edit warring, but I would support an RfC to get further input on this if necessary. clpo13(talk)22:38, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Unfortunately it came to this. I don't mind discussion and compromise, but I do not understand why in a 2:1 situation, the "1" would assume the default version of the article would be their preferred version. Safehaven86 (talk) 01:45, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Then you do so well. :D Took a quick peek at your edit history, looks like you keep yourself nicely busy. :) I see that like me you appear to mostly split your time between gnomish/maintenance work and vandal-fighting with some content work scattered in between? AddWittyNameHere (talk) 23:39, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Yep, that's me. I've been trying to work on more content recently, but I tend to stick to the minor stuff for the most part. clpo13(talk)23:48, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, same here. Content work every blue moon (or when I need a break from adding the same category to hundreds of articles, anyway), highly repetitive minor and vandal fighting the rest of the time. Oh well, even if some (thankfully not most, though) folks look down on us gnomes, someone needs to repair dab-links, fix cite-errors, add categorization, add missing diacritics, repair double-redirects and sort stubs, no? AddWittyNameHere (talk) 00:13, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #226
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Upcoming: Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing) & Liam Wyatt (User:Wittylama) speaking about GLAM-Wiki (including Wikidata) in Warsaw, 19 October. Details tbc.
Upcoming: Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing) speaking & running workshop about Wikidata at SFK 16 ("Software Freedom Kosova Conference") in Pristina, 21-23 October.
#SundayQuery on Twitter: every Sunday, you can ask for help or advice about SPARQL queries, how to build or fix it, some SPARQL-ninjas will be there to answer you!
Researcher? You can participate in the WSDM Cup 2017 challenge and improve Wikidata vandalism detection
New templates: {{Denmark properties}}, {{Greece properties}}. Please add labels in your own languages, and consider making a similar template for your country or region.
Development
Lowered relevance threshold for ArticlePlaceholder search results from 3 to 2 sitelinks (T144188)
Added 'otk' as an available language for monolingual text values (T137809)
Working on making it possible to paste partial URLs into the site selector (T144310)
Made progress on showing editors on all Wikimedia projects which articles on their project use data from a given Wikidata item. We will also show in the page information (action=info) which items a given article uses. Also worked on showing which projects use a given item in the page information. (T103091)
Added meta information to the html header of item pages (T88475)
Made progress on making ArticlePlaceholders indexable for search engines (T144590)
Hi -- you removed the notice about a 1RR restriction from the talk page of Jeremy Corbyn, saying that it should go in "edit notices". Did you add it somewhere else? I don't see this indication when clicking on edit for the article. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 10:35, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
July Drive: The July drive was a roaring success. We set out to remove April, May, and June 2015 from our backlog (our 149 oldest articles), and by 23 July, we were done with those months. We added July 2015 (66 articles) and copy-edited 37 of those. We also handled all of the remaining Requests from June 2016. Well done! Overall, we recorded copy edits to 240 articles by 20 editors, reducing our total backlog to 13 months and 1,656 articles, the second-lowest month-end total ever.
August Blitz: this one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 21 through 27 August; the theme was sports-related articles in honor of the 2016 Summer Olympics. Of the eight editors who signed up, five editors removed 11 articles from the backlog. A quiet blitz – everyone must be on vacation. Barnstars and rollover totals are located here. Thanks to all editors who took part.
Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Corinne and Tdlsk.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The Wikimedia Commons app for Android can now show nearby places that need photos. [21]
The RevisionSlider will be available as a beta feature on all wikis from 13 September. This will make it easier to navigate between diffs in the page history. [24]
A new user right will allow most users to change the content model of pages. [25][26]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 September. It will be on all wikis from 15 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
When you search on the Wikimedia wikis in the future you could see results from sister projects in your language. You can read more and discuss how this could work.
Cute, so because one person thinks that it's ok to include unsourced irrelevant information about a foreign country in strictly domestic television networks it will be done? That's stupid, it's like saying the FCC now controls all television signals globally, so BBC better be prepared to start censoring according to the FCC guidelines because BBC America broadcasts on cable in the US. It's a stupid conflict that Mrs Chimpf thinks they can win. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.240.231.252 (talk) 19:03, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
The new version of MediaWiki will hopefully be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 September. It will be on all wikis from 22 September (calendar). This is the version that was meant to go out last week.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 20 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
The Project Grants program is accepting proposals from September 12 to October 11 to fund new tools, research, offline outreach, online organizing and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers.
The RevisionSlider is now available as a beta feature, try it to have a visual overview of your diffs.
The Wikidata team attended and participated to a lot of conference these past days (WikiCon, ViewSource, DPpedia, SoCraTes, Write the doc) that's why we don't have many tasks to share with you this week :)
Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway, and as a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 23 September. For the Coordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:01, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia email re Newspapers.com signup
Hello, Clpo13. Please check your email; you've got mail! It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.
TXT Werk is doing automatic entity recognition in text with the help of Wikidata. Previously only German was supported. English is now supported as well.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
When you edit text and mention a new username they are notified if you add your signature. Before this only happened under certain conditions. [31]
Users are notified if they are mentioned in a section where you add your own signature even if you edit more than one section. Before, users were not notified if you edited more than one section in one edit. [32]
Problems
The MediaWiki version that was supposed to come to the wikis two weeks ago was put on hold again because of new problems. The MediaWiki version after it is now on all wikis. [33][34]
Changes this week
There will be no new MediaWiki version this week. [35]
Abandoned tools on Tool Labs could be taken over by other developers. There is a new discussion on Meta about this. It will be discussed until 12 October and then voted on. [36]
I mean, it's obvious that you edited under a prior account (you even admitted it in the diff I provided). There's nothing wrong with opening a new account, so long as you make acknowledge it (WP:VALIDALT) and don't use both at the same time for improper purposes (WP:ILLEGIT). clpo13(talk)22:30, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
It's obvious. I acknowledged that fact. I never logged back (nor looked back), as you can easily check by the date of last contribution and logon on the prior account. I don't have access to it, because I changed the password to a sentence that doesn't yet exist in any language. When the amount of bits required to randomly generate it with the use of the millions of monkeys editing Wikipedia will flow through the internet, poponuro will die, and vaxquis will rise again.
