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Worked on creating mediainfo entities on demand when a file is viewed that doesn't have an associated mediainfo entity yet. This is needed for structured data support for Commons.
Worked on making it possible to embed query results in other websites. You can get a preview at https://jonaskress.github.io
Added timeline as a possible visualization for the query service.
Investigated issues with downloading query result sets in Safari.
Got ArticlePlaceholder ready for the second round of Wikipedias.
Fixed bug where map wasn't enabled as a possible visualization for queries with cooridnates.
You can soon specify the color of the bubbles in a bubble chart visualization. (phabricator:T137061)
Fixed a bug with terms sometimes not showing up, language fallback not working correctly in Lua modules and connection to master database
Fixed a bug with URL encoding in the query service.
ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 100 can avoid timeouts on Wikidata Query Service (source)
Development
Worked on making it easier to add new query examples right from the query service by just clicking a button. There are some technical issues with it still though. Will take a while to sort through.
More work on creating new Media-Info entities (the equivalent of item for media file data) on the fly (phabricator:T134259)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Notifications were not always marked as read when you followed a link from an email notification. This will now happen. [1]
Changes this week
The list of other languages an article is available in will be shorter on small Wikipedias and non-Wikipedia projects. This is to make it easier to find the most relevant languages for each user. You will still be able to see the other languages. [2][3]
Alerts (the red badge) will not be automatically marked as read when you open the Notifications popup. [4]
When you get several thanks you can see them as one notification. This is instead of one notification for each thanks. [5]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 June. It will be on all wikis from 23 June (calendar).
In appreciation of the great work you do in keeping your eye on disputes with an unswervingly level head, and inevitably maintaining a courteous disposition. Thank you! Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:46, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Just to clarify, this claim is not against you, but rather the IP user that we unfortunately dealt with earlier. Thanks! Carbrera (talk) 04:46, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Precious
"useless without images"
Thank you for quality articles such as Camano Island State Park and Arthur Nock (useful: with image and infobox), for uploading images, welcoming users, fighting vandalism and censorship, - all this for more then ten years, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
Hey clpo13! Looks like you figured this out already, but just wanted to make sure you know that abusive/vandalism redirects can be tagged for speedy deletion (per WP:G3) rather than having to go through the whole RfD process. GorillaWarfare(talk)21:04, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The ORES service has now moved to a new location. This should make it easier to use ORES. The ORES review service is now available as a beta feature on Wikidata and Persian Wikipedia. ORES is an artificial intelligence system for Wikimedia wikis to help editors. [6]
The order of wikis in collapsed cross-wiki notifications was different than when the list was expanded. This is now fixed. [7]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 June. It will be on all wikis from 30 June (calendar).
The way to mark notifications as read or unread will be changed to be more clear. [11]
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
The Collaboration team at the Wikimedia Foundation will look at developing better tools for edit review. This is because research suggests we scare away newcomers who want to help. [12]
An e-mail from the Editing Department explains the technical work that is planned and being researched for the future. Items include better wikitext and visual editing, prompts for edits, language improvements, annotations, and meta-data separation. [13]
The sorting of Notifications into the two fly-out menus is going to change on July 5 to 7. Bundled notifications should be easier to explore and mark as read individually. [14][15][16]
From 29 June git.wikimedia.org (running Gitblit) will redirect all requests to Phabricator. The vast majority of requests should be correctly redirected. [17]
Catalan and Polish Wikipedias will have Wikidata descriptions added to articles in the mobile view by default. This is currently a beta option for the mobile versions. This might come to other wikis later. [18]
EasyQuery is now a gadget that you can enable in your preferences. It gives you an icon next to each statement value. That gives you a list of other items with the same statement.
Stats have been updated and show a significant jump in references.
There is now a 100wikidatadays challenge based on the 100wikidays challenge for Wikipedia. The goal: convert 100 templates to make use of Wikidata over the course of 100 days.
Thiemo wrote a user script to pre-fill "date retrieved" in a reference with the current date. Please test and let us know what you think ont he linked page. If you like it it can become a gadget.
More groundwork for Commons. We can now save a statement in the new MediaInfo entity type \o/ (Some minor issues still with the demo system but should be solved next week.)
Fixed a display issue with description tooltips in recent changes. Thanks Matěj Suchánek! (phabricator:T89663)
Refactored quite some of the sitelinks-related JavaScript code (phabricator:T127056 and gerrit:294687. This may break some existing gadgets and user scripts temporarily.
Updated the graphic representing the data model in Wikidata: long, medium, short
Fixed problem with editing statements on Wikidata, after last week's deployment (phabricator:T138974)
Started interviews to find user needs and workflows for automated list generation (phabricator:T139284)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
A daily email summary of notifications could be sent even when there were no notifications from the wiki. Now no email will be sent if there is no activity. [19]
Changes this week
The "⧼citoid-citefromidtool-title⧽" button in the visual editor's toolbar will move into the "Insert" menu except for Wikipedias, Wikibookses and Wikiversities. This is to make it less prominent on wikis that don't use it as much. [20]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 July. It will be on all wikis from 7 July (calendar).
Meetings
You can take part in the next office hour for Wikidata on IRC on July 8 at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Thanks for keeping on top of this article. I've revdel'd a number of the revisions due to the content and if the vandalism continues I'll consider protection. Nthep (talk) 14:58, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
I appreciate you informing me on this matter. Will keep in mind for future references. Look forward to contributing additional material and maintaining Wikipedia's positive reputation on providing high quality and non-biased accurate information.
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Hello everyone, and welcome to the July 2016 GOCE newsletter.
June Blitz: this one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 12 through 18 June; the themes were video games and Asian geography. Of the 18 editors who signed up, 11 removed 47 articles from the backlog. Barnstars and rollover totals are located here. Thanks to all editors who took part.
Coordinator elections:
The second tranche of Guild coordinators for 2016, who will serve a six-month term until 23:59 UTC on 31 December, have been elected.
Jonesey95 remains as your drama-free Lead Coordinator, and Corinne and Tdslk are your new assistant coordinators. For her long service to the Guild, Miniapolis has been enrolled in the GOCE Hall of Fame. Thanks to everyone who voted in the election; our next scheduled one occurs in December 2016. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are eligible; self-nominations are welcome and encouraged.
July Drive:
Our month-long July Copy Editing Backlog Elimination Drive is now underway. Our aim is to remove articles tagged for copy-edit in April, May and June 2015, and to complete all requests on the GOCE Requests page from June 2016. The drive ends at 23:59 on 31 July 2016 (UTC).
Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Corinne and Tdlsk.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
A new image scaler fixed a number of bugs for showing SVG files. Some new problems turned up. [21][22][23]
Notifications are grouped by types. They are now counted by number of notifications and not by unread groups. That change may increase the number of notifications displayed. The earlier way of counting was often incorrect. Unread notifications will also be displayed first. [24][25][26]
Special:Notifications now has a maximum width for the notifications list on desktop computers. This allows long titles and descriptions to be cut properly. Notifications are now also better parsed. [27][28][29]
Problems
On 5 July Wikimedia Commons had problems and could not be edited for 20 minutes. For a short while after that the recent changes log and some gadgets were not working properly. It affected administrative actions on other projects too. [30]
Users who have multiple unread notifications can mark them as read by visiting Special:Notifications page on their wiki.
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 July. It will be on all wikis from 14 July (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Working on an infographic to represent the flow of data in Wikidata
Work on multi-content revisions in order to be able to store an entity (item, property, mediainfo) and wiki text in the same page (This is needed for Commons) (phabricator:T107595)
Did more interviews with editors as preparation for the work on automated list generation for Wikipedia and co based on Wikidata data
Fixed a bug with data parsing in Korean and a few other languages (phabricator:T139509)
Added "non" as a language code for monolingual text values (phabricator:T137115)
Removed display of calendar model for dates with precision of 10 years or larger (phabricator:T133973)
Fixed issues in some of the forms on special pages on mobile (phabricator:T138413)
Thank you. It is frustrating when one has to wait for two fricking weeks without even a courtesy reply, and the only way to get attention for a reasonable concern is resorting to vandalism. 174.19.218.191 (talk) 19:24, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Correction of comments
Hi Mr.Clpo13, I am Arman ad60. I made the comments in the Persian talk pages. I had removed them because my English is not very good. I had requested Mr. Jimbo Wales and he accepted it. But I don't like it as they still remain there as tags. People may still search them and see the messages. I don't understand where is the problem in removing them. They have already been deleted. What is the problem if I remove them altogether.
But yes, if you don't think I should be allowed to change the messages then you can show the messages up. I think it is better than remaining there as tags. I am giving you the permission to do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.58.205.145 (talk) 22:35, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Archiving of comments
Mr. Clpo thank you very much for archiving the talk page. Can you please achive the talk pages of the Parthian and Sasanian empire. I had made some comments there as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.58.205.145 (talk) 23:10, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Due to the rollback, new sorting of Notifications on the Fly-Out Menus has been deployed with a delay. [31]
In notifications, "Messages" are now called "Notices". [33]
Problems
On July 12 all wikis were rolled back to MediaWiki 1.28.0-wmf.8 due to a problem in the log-in system. [34][35]
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 July. It will be on all wikis from 21 July (calendar).
The RevisionSlider can be tested on the beta cluster. From 22 July, it will be available as a beta feature at: German Wikipedia, Arabic Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is "Devise plan for a cross-wiki watchlist back-end". The meeting will be on 20 July at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join. [37]
Future changes
User scripts and bots can no longer use http:// to edit wiki pages. [38][39]
Gerrit is going to be updated. Developers are invited to test it. [40]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Sometimes, the visual editor required saving twice. That problem is now fixed. [42]
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 July. It will be on all wikis from 28 July (calendar).
It is now possible to mark all Notifications as read on Special:Notifications, by clicking on the cog icon. [43]
Wikipedia search will now detect the language of your search if 2 or fewer results are found. It will then show results from the matching language Wikipedia, if any relevant article exists. It will start to roll out in 5 languages. [44]
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 26 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is "an extension that implements an authenticated key-value store". The meeting will be on 27 July at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join. [45]
Future changes
The current icon for Notifications "Notices" (in English "Notices") will be changed from a bubble-speech icon to a tray icon for consistency. [46]
Numbers on Wikidata:Database reports/without claims by site for some projects decreased (e.g. dewiki), remained consistently low (e.g. nlwiki), or recently increased to new highs (e.g. enwiki).
Development
Finished first rough prototype for structured data on Commons. Wanted to sent out announcement on Friday but one configuration issue is still unsolved. Should be solved in the next 1 or 2 days.
We are adding a "no match found" message to the suggester that you get when selecting an item or property while adding a new statement for example (phabricator:T140085)
When a query result contains a mathematical expression it will soon be rendered correctly (phabricator:T137784)
Added support for Haida (hai) for monolingual text values (phabricator:T138131)
I've started a discussion at ANI regarding an email OTRS apparently received regarding WikiWiz, which you mentioned in a previous ANI discussion. -- Gestrid (talk) 05:33, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
The RevisionSlider beta feature can now be tested on mediawiki.org, German Wikipedia, Arabic Wikipedia and Hebrew Wikipedia.
Problems
Renamed users on some wikis were not connected to their account on other wikis between 20 July and 21 July. This has been fixed. [49]
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 August. It will be on all wikis from 4 August (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can now translate all sister project pages to your language, like Wikidata:Wikipedia. Please, link to them from your projects to give your fellow users chance to learn Wikidata basics.
You can now enable the CoordinateDiffMap Gadget in your preferences to get a map for coordinate changes.
Added a message to the suggester that pops up when you search for items or properties. When no matching property or item is found it will now tell you. (phabricator:T140085)
Considerably improved our browser tests to find more issues before You ever see them.
Added Haida as a language available for monolingual text properties (phabricator:T138131)
Thanks for your concern earlier about my IP exemption application, even if it was a false alarm; I definitely understand if it looked like our Dakotan friend got to me and I didn't mean to scare you (I didn't know exactly how the IPX process looked until then). Nate•(chatter)02:21, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for editing the format and deleting the list in the Emily Bear aricle.I did not create this but I did not want to because I did not feel entitled to do this.
All the informations I posted are really central. As I wrote on the Cullum talk page I could post informations, facts, photos , spam topping the size of Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Jackie Evancho combined ;) but that was not my goal.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
In notifications, the icon for Notices has been changed from a speech-bubble icon () to a tray icon () for consistency. The Alerts icon has been redesigned too. The colors have been changed for accessibility. [50]
Problems
If you use the wikEd gadget, changes you made were not kept when you switched from the wikitext editor to the visual editor while you were editing. This has now been fixed. [51]
Changes this week
Wikimedia search will now ignore question marks at the end of the sentences or words you use when you search. Until now the question mark was just a wildcard. [52]
On Commons, UploadWizard will now be available on mobile, rather than just the old upload form. This should reduce the workload for the community in reviewing images. [53]
When you edit with the visual editor a puzzle symbol tells you there is an invisible template in the article. It will now mention the name of the template. [54]
The button to read something in another language will move for mobile users. This will happen on 9 August. [55]
When someone mentions you and links to your user page you get a notification. You will now get a notification when you mention yourself this way. [56]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 August. It will be on all wikis from 11 August (calendar).
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on August 9 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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... for the quote of the day: "I don't see any logical reason to make information harder to access." - I was trained - the hard way - to stick to two comments per discussion ;) - I had learned before that some people need to have the last word, which unfortunately includes myself. - Problem in the quote is the word "logical". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
Last week Tech News announced you will get a notification when you mention yourself the same way as if someone else had mentioned you. This caused some problems and will happen later instead. [58]
Creating and editing links to sections on other pages on the wiki now works again in the visual editor. [59]
For some users, cross-wiki notifications haven't been working properly. The count has been wrong when only cross-wiki notifications were present. The cross-wiki bundle has been showing only the names of wikis and not the actual notifications. This will be fixed soon. [60][61]
Changes this week
The login session when you choose "Keep me logged in" will now last a year. Previously it was 30 days. This will happen on August 16. [62]
Some abuse filters will have to be updated during the week. This is because a bug will be fixed. [63]
In compact language links, two new kinds of languages will be shown in the shorter language list: Languages that are used in the article's text, and languages where the article has a badge like "featured article" or "good article". [64][65]
The visual editor will be available by default for logged-out editors on Wikipedias that use the Arabic script. It is already default for logged-in editors. [66]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 16. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 17. It will be on all wikis from August 18 (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on August 16 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
Starting the week of August 22 there will be three software deployment windows. They will be at 13:00, 18:00, and 23:00 UTC. This is to have more times when software of the wikis can be updated and make it easier for developers in different parts of the world. [67]
Worked on layout improvements to have a better visual separation of qualifiers and references (phabricator:T141862)
Added a line to the suggester to indicate when no matching item or property was found (phabricator:T142034)
Fixed and issue with scroll bars in the logo section of the ArticlePlaceholder (phabricator:T139977)
Worked more on making it possible to translate an article in the ArticlePlaceholder (phabricator:T124036)
Worked on fixing link in in other languages section for ArticlePlaceholder (phabricator:T137933)
Worked more on groundwork for multi content revisions which we need for structured data support for Commons in order to have structured and unstructured data on the file page at the same time (phabricator:T141878)
Worked on automatically creating a mediainfo entity when adding a statement - so far it is only possible by adding a label or description (phabricator:T140760)
