User talk:Cirt/Archive 14
About Ms Sima yariForwarded Message ---- From: Dr. Abbas Milani amilani@stanford.edu Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 9:14:53 AM Subject: "Sima Yari " Dear Sir/Madam: It has come to my attention that the entry on Ms Sima Yari has been, for some reason, eliminated from the Wikipedia. I know of her work, her published poetry, and the defiance of her voice. May be it is just this defiance that has caused the malignant urge of some unknown force or person to try to eliminate her. I have been under the impression that yours is a site given to the democratic reflection of a plurality of voices; judgment on the ultimate quality of each voice is up to the readers and critics, and should not be left to those who have the patience or know-how to act as censors and forces of elimination. There is often not much of a distance between elimination from the page to elimination from the public domain, and even more, physical elimination. We must stop the shameful process where it begins. Restate her entry for she deserves presence, and not elimination. Best, Abbas Milani
clarification please...You closed Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Ibrahim Zeidan reports Abu Zubaydah image used as an interrogation tool. But you didn't explicitly say why you closed it as "delete". After re-reading WP:NOTWEBHOST I honestly don't see how this section of WP:NOT, cited by practically everyone who weighed in on the discussion, is relevant. To what extent should I regard your closure as an endorsement of their WP:NOTWEBHOST sentiments? Geo Swan (talk) 15:31, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
*pokes*What's with you and bacon? Just wondering. :P SilverserenC 22:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Cirt, you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/88.7 FM Campbell River, British Columbia as delete and deleted the redirect 88.7 FM Campbell River, British Columbia. Would you delete CHVI-FM as well? (The article was moved to that title during the AfD discussion.) Thanks, Cunard (talk) 02:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Confusion over article creationHello Cirt. I just thought that I would let you know that the message that you left for Bradley0110 about the article Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (film) probably should have been left on the talk page for User:The Editor 155. In looking at the edit history here [1] Bradley created a redirect in '08. Then last week The Editor undid that redirect and created the article. Please don't think that this message is stating that you did anything wrong. I thought that the situation is a little confusing so I hoped that this info might help. Cheers and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 20:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Beautiful HeartacheThe article Beautiful Heartache you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Beautiful Heartache for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:55, 24 October 2010 (UTC) The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University) - bit of a messHi there, I'm contacting you because you because you handled the original restoration of the article after this deletion review . Following User:Racepacket's recent move of The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University) to Cornell literary societies and subsequent editing, User:Cmagha has cut and pasted the original version of that article to The Irving Literary Society and in the process removed all the edit history as well as creating an unattributed content fork. Also, Talk:The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University)/Archive 1 was not moved when Talk: The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University) was moved to Talk:Cornell literary societies and is now stranded, although I've added a link to it at the newly titled talk page.Could you sort this out, if nothing else to merge the page histories? If not, do you know an administrator who could handle this? I've got your page on watch, so please respond here. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
WA deletionsWhich RFD discussion are you refering to? Simply south (talk) 11:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
As none of the word association pages were tagged or discussed in the MfD I've started a DRV to get them reinstated, at least pending actual discussion of their merits or otherwise: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 October 25#Wikipedia:Sandbox/Word Association/Ultra Game. Thryduulf (talk) 13:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC) Request from KSKindly stay off my talk page with your contentious and unfounded accusations. If you want to discuss article improvement, I am more than willing to do so on the article talk page(s). - Best regards- KeptSouth (talk)
DYK issueHello! Your submission of Jessica Feshbach at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! The article does meet expansion, length and sourcing requirements, but the hook seems lacking to me. Maybe a punchier version could be created or a new hook provided from the ample material in the article. Alansohn (talk) 16:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC) AfD MergeIf I close an AfD as merge, can I just copy and paste to the new article, or does an admin need to do a history merge? CTJF83 chat 21:54, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
DeletionUser:Sandbox for user warnings - why? THEMONO™ 02:43, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Harsh?Hi Cirt. I'd suggest that this [5] is rather harsh and not even handed. I suspect from his/her posts that English is not a first language and from reading multiple posts the editor sometimes uses the language in a way that is not customary for a native speaker. As well, this is a contentious article and contentious discussion and there are some clear good faith concerns, which we are hopefully dealing with on the talk page. Unfortuantaly your warning isolates one editor when there are other editor concerns. Edith says the comments were not personal and given the language situation, I would tend to accept that. At any rate this is just my opinion. Best wishes.(olive (talk) 04:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC))
OzHarvest DeletionHi Cirt, On september 1st, 2009 Our page under "OzHarvest" was deleted. Is it possible for us to get this page back? Thankyou, Regards MichelleOz —Preceding unsigned comment added by MichelleOz (talk • contribs)
Opps, yes. Sorry S.G.(GH) ping! 17:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC) Hey Cirt, I'm coming back to you in regards to the article on Eirtakon, as you were the closing admin on the last AfD. We've done a bit of work to the article, adding more RS', and updating the event information as of the current year, and I was going to run it by you whether or not it's suitable enough to go back into mainspace. It's not the best, I'll admit, but to be perfectly honest it's better than some of the current articles about other anime cons in Europe (e.g. Animefest, AniMatsuri (Estonia), Rumicon just to name a few). Also along those lines, would uploading an image for use in the infobox be pushing it, or...? Thanks for your time. TheChrisD Rants•Edits 15:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Railway stations in the United StatesIs it OK to redirect it to Rail transport in the United States? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
We clashed there on AFD results (less than a minute apart but never edit conflicted), but another user has placed in a "delete" !vote there. Think it's a good idea to keep that AFD open? –MuZemike 07:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Template:Treehouse of HorrorPlease weigh in on Template talk:Treehouse of Horror#Inclusion of episode segments, so we can generate a consensus. Thanks, Fixblor (talk) 08:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC) List of The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episodesPlease weigh in on Talk:List of The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episodes#Inclusion of episode segment links, so we can generate a consensus. Thanks, Fixblor (talk) 09:27, 27 October 2010 (UTC) AfD closure: Dheerendra SinghIs there a reason you did not delete all three nominated articles when closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dheerendra Singh, or was it just an oversight? ~ Ningauble (talk) 13:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Re: extremedbIt seems to me these review periods were brief, and it seems likely that only a limited number of persons contributed to the discussion. I know that I would have added my thoughts if I'd known a discussion of this article was taking place. After the first "defense" of the article, the deletion request was withdrawn. And then a second deletion proposal was raised and quickly finalized without any defense being given. Arguments in favor of the article, stated in the first defense, received no response. Instead, the article was deleted based on (as far as I can see) two rather vague _opinions_ (not arguments). Do you not agree? I request that the discussion be reopened so that questions can be properly addressed. As I understand it, this is possible on Wikipedia. Svpcom (talk) 21:47, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Unblock request on hold; you blocked the range. Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:20, 27 October 2010 (UTC) DeletionI noticed you deleted Alliance of Valiant Arms unfortunately that deletion was discussed by people who really had no idea about the subject and who were incapable of finding the sources. Somehow I missed the notification that it had been put up for deletion. As was mentioned in the deletion discussion, the game is used to compete at a national level, it's one of the most popular shooters in Korea, it's published by a well known publisher (all of which satisfy notability requirements for western games), and searching an actual korean site for the name of the game generates nearly 10,000 hits [6], mind you there is a little overlap with the group Abba. So searching for the groups name and the korean word for"game" which narrows it down (but still drops some legitimate results) gives us over 1100 news results [7].I'll give you an opportunity restore it before I take it to DRV.--Crossmr (talk) 23:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Done, now at User:Crossmr/Alliance of Valiant Arms. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 00:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC) Just thought I'd let you know that I courtesy blanked this AFD because I'm not sure if the subject is the same "Yuri Rutman that Truebobjohnson is talking about. He provides three unreliable sources and you'll find the second one very interesting. That one is defiantly not a reliable source and I should know :) --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Cirt, I'm wondering why you deleted rather than redirected here. It seems like a darn reasonable redirect. Hobit (talk) 00:29, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Pittsburgh Tri-State(Breathing exercise) It seems that you were simply doing your job clearing monthly delete nominees. However (although not required) I would have imagined a "Tri-State" "regional" article would have given a heads up to the Wikiproject or Portal or page creator and chief contributor. I think what may have happened here is a diagnosis was decided on the heart without talking to any cardiologists (even though they are by very definition biased). The page was a long long time contribution to Wiki with tons of sources cited that by they're very nature seem to have been used as a justification for its deletion (reading the 25 something day thread). I have to admit this is a first for me, sources for an article being the reason for its deletion, (Akron, West Virginia are sourced by some authorities as included others as not included etc.). I would be happy to re-edit or clarify this article up to higher standards if need be (as many Pgh project members would be) but as best I can tell beyond not consulting anyone with knowledge of the subject, the only rationale was that there were slightly divergent source material. That is a dangerous precedent for the vast majority of articles on wiki, sources rarely define subject matter exactly alike. Again trying to piece this together looks like it was simply a housecleaning move by yourself, not a judgment in any way but I will be happy to strengthen this article. Also the Pittsburgh Metro Area article is in no way similar, it is rigidly defined by the CBO and Census, although I could see a single article encompassing both however I don't see a lot of precedent for that on wiki. Thank you for your consideration and please consider allowing project members to discuss and improve this page. Hholt01 (talk) 02:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
deletion review: Lee ZalbenI would like to request a deletion review for Lee Zalben. In addition to being the Founder of Peanut Butter & Co, Lee is a published author and contributor to other writer's cookbooks, and also writes a weekly column for the food blog Serious Eats. In addition to media coverage that has come through Peanut Butter & Co, Lee has been profiled by various media including The New York Times and Gourmet News, and is a frequent source for journalists seeking commentary on the natural and specialty food business. Lee's page perhaps needed to be updated with more third party indicators of notariety, which we would like the opportunity to correct.Zalben (talk) 02:55, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Since it was not incubated, could you please userfy this one to me at User:MichaelQSchmidt/workspace/Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda. I'll work on it and send it to incubation for review when it is better suited for mainspace. Thanks, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Jessica Feshbach
— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Cirt. Could you do something about the above redirect, too? Thanks! Location (talk) 06:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Username blocksWhy are names like User:Nobinism tagged and blocked? Nobin is a first name, e.g. [8]. Blocking this only because it has "nob" in it, seems to me to be serious overkill. Worse, User:Skier dudete has a username block? Why's that? Nothing offensive, nothing promotional, no bad edits... Fram (talk) 08:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Given the outcome of the above SPI, you might wish to take another look at your close of the DRV of The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University) at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 October 1. T. Canens (talk) 14:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
yuri rutman deletionis there a reason you deleted this person who manages a large private equity fund and is a pretty prolific hollywood film financier and producer i notices someone sent you a link to some spam reference and these are two separate people.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Euromogul (talk • contribs) 23:49, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I hope you don't mind me asking you for help. There's been an MFD discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:Magyar Televízió/draft open for 17 days now, and Ged UK tells me that you work in deletion discussions and suggested you might be able to help (he is involved in this and related articles, and so cannot take any action himself). So I was hoping you might be able to have a look at it and possibly offer a judgment? Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:35, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I saw this thread here, popped over to take a look, and saw it as a clear delete, so deleted it... I didn't think it was in "relist" territory as there had been plenty of comments already from a number of people, with a consensus (as I saw it). Anyway, back to work... BencherliteTalk 10:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Rob Navarro Invitational site deletionWhy was the RNI site deleted? You stated in your comments that it had no validity and no interest but the site was being viewed and is real. Otherwise I would not have taken the time to develop it and keep it updated. As you could plainly see the site was updated every year with the current information. So I was keeping the site active and currrent? Thanks, Ed Aaron —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aarone67 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Golf-related deletion discussions. —wjematherbigissue 15:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC) Delete, nonnotable minor tournament, no evidence of broader news coverage. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC) -No where does it state that the tournament has to have broader news coverage in order to be posted on wikipedia???? Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —fetch·comms 01:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC) Delete. The article does not stake any claim to notability and its lack of notability is supported by its minimal google hits.--PinkBull 02:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC) -I was not aware, nor do I think there is a minimun number of google hits required to maintain a page??? Delete. "In 2010, the prize fund was US$1,400.00". 'Nuf said. Also, you don't even get to keep the jacket. Herostratus (talk) 03:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC) -This is just nonsense, why this person is commenting at all should be the question. No reason or statement here but foolishness. So I understand the page was deleted and it did go through the "process", but what I am trying to do is get it reinstated by the individual (you) who officially deleted it. Am I going about this the wrong way, or did I miss something to have this done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aarone67 (talk • contribs)
If you aren't already planning to, I'd strongly encourage you to nominate it for GA or even FA—it is a very well written and interesting article. Wackywace converse | contribs 15:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Targeted Killing in International Law
— Rlevse • Talk • 18:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Buddhism and Violence DRVCirt, Please reexamine the discussion and appropriately alter your close. The "endorse" voters failed to articulate any reason for such a speedy deletion, especially in light of the absolute failure of the nominator to articulate any copyright violation. Leaving aside that, the "overturn" opinions are more numerous than those seeking to sustain the close. Jclemens (talk) 18:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't know where you get that's a delete. We have comments and a confused guy saying delete. It should be relisted. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 04:35, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Re: ron ritzman/yuri rutman deletionYou suggested he is more in the loop. He said this was all your recommendation. Regardless of what this is Here is my post to him and his response. Would appreciate if you also checked your facts on this and other individuals. Re: yuri rutman deletion I am curious as to where you correlated the Yuri Rutman Wikipedia article with a "spammer" and for dubious sources as a way to delete a profile on him. It seems there are several Yuri Rutman's on google. You also referenced "not prominent or questionable sources" Please verify your sources on imdbpro.com and ask how him producing a film that is being directed by one of the most prominent film directors in the world and is being co-produced by company that recently made a Jessica Biel and Milla Jovovich film is "dubious" along with 6 other films his company is currently producing and financing. IMDBPRO does not list credits unless they do extensive due diligence. Further, you referenced that press releases were written by him or his company. Please check your facts again when MSNBC recently profiled him at http://www.cnbc.com/id/39342145/Investing_In_The_Big_Screen_Can_Be_A_Profitable_Story as well as numerous prominent private equity and hedge fund publications http://www.hedgeweek.com/2010/02/02/32989/noci-targets-hedge-fund-investors-film-finance. These publications do extensive due diligence. If there is some sort of personal bias between you and one of the Mr. Rutman's which is indexed more than ten years ago in a newsgroup post your referenced, its highly suggested you check your facts and do your homework before arbitrarily trying to identify one individual as someone else and can fall into an area of slander and libel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.196.84 (talk) 03:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC) Two points... 1. I did not close Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yuri Rutman or delete the article, Cirt did.
2. I did not say he was the "Yuri Rutman" referenced in my 10 year old newsgroup post, Truebobjohnson did. I blanked the AFD per WP:BLP because I do not think he is that person. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 04:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Euromogul (talk • contribs)
Unblock request for 71.167.255.176See User_talk:71.167.255.176. If we changed it to anon-only, then we could recommend creating an account, but I wanted to hear your comments. Bovlb (talk) 03:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Treehouse of Horror IXb.jpgThanks for uploading File:Treehouse of Horror IXb.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media). PLEASE NOTE:
Orphaned non-free image File:Treehouse of Horror IXa.jpgThanks for uploading File:Treehouse of Horror IXa.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media). PLEASE NOTE:
deletion Deep Democracy InstituteDear Cirt I just found out that Deep Democracy Institute has been deleted. I appreciate the thought of wanting to keep wikipedia from self promoting brochures. The Deep Democracy Institute has a presence on many continents, and is being shown in the public media. I am part of it. Can we work towards re-creating the page? We would love to. thank you for considering? Elefant46 (talk) 18:35, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thanks for answering. If I click on [[10]] I get a deleted page notice. appreciation for all your work. I can see all the dialogues, sorry to take up more time. Elefant46 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:13, 31 October 2010 (UTC).
wow, awesome, thanks so much, I would love that ! Thanks for the help ! Elefant46 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC).
Thank you, we will start to work on it, and when we feel we have adressed the various issues that went on in the previous discussions, we hope to come back for advice, or is that out of your scope. I am sorry, I am a newbie, just starting to wake up to all of this. Till now I just used and enjoyed wikipedia, but never contributed, I am embarrassed to say. Elefant46 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC).
Me and a friend who helps me with my English, I speak French. Is this correct, that I start to work on this and come back to you and might get council? Elefant46 (talk) 05:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Do you ever sleep, or is Cirt more than one person? Elefant46 (talk) 10:18, 1 November 2010 (UTC) re: your agressive notehi cirt you left me this comment "Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. -- Cirt (talk) 19:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC)" what edits are you referring to? why are you using threats? you posted the following on your page "* Be polite * Assume good faith * Avoid personal attacks * Be welcoming" So why aren't you following your own advice? I'm sure you are aware that I'm new to wikipedia and finding my way around. When I commented about a particular article a few days ago another user advised me to 'be bold'. I have only edited articles in topic areas that lie within my personal or professional expertise. Vandalism implies that I was deliberately being destructive which is most certainly not true. Fridakahlofan (talk) 23:31, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Closed AfDHi - could you please explain why you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jimbo Matison merely hours after I asked an important question to one of the two people who voted delete on the page? Work was still being done on the article - it had only been recently noticed by the Articles for Rescue people. I don't believe consensus had been reached in one way or the other - it had no votes at all until the AfR people came on, at which point two delete votes came within one day, and that sparked a discussion. Should it not have at least been allowed to run the full week? Tduk (talk) 06:19, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Tduk, I strongly suggest that you take Cirt up on his offer to userfy the article because he has already given you his answer WRT restoring to mainspace. Currently the article has two sources that "might" satisfy WP:N depending on who you ask so it has a chance. If you can find a few more then the new draft can be submitted to deletion review. This may be the only way you are going to get the article restored. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 17:12, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Raelism articlesI think that there is some good reason to believe the content related to Raelism may be at least a bit excessive. Raëlian Church membership estimates strikes me as being at least one of the articles which is probably questionable. I believe it would make sense to perhaps have as many interested parties discuss any questions they have as want to, and that WT:NRM would probably be the best central location for such discussion. I am on that basis starting a discussion there. Please feel free to take part. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 13:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
OversightThank you for that. Tduk (talk) 17:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Islam PortalHi. Please remove the sentence in the paragraph which is talking about Sunnah, as the dispute in the Islam article has solved. Thanks.--Aliwiki (talk) 20:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
RiotsHow come Uncle G got a star on his talk page for Cincinnati Riots of 1884 and I didn't? He suggested the topic, and he dug up some of the sources, but I started it and wrote most of the content. I am deeply hurt... Just kidding - forget it. Really. :~) Despite appearances, I have no interest at all in collecting awards. Nobody I know in the real world would be impressed, even if they knew I had this hobby, and no editors I respect would be at all impressed. Seriously though, I see on the DYK talk page concerns that there are not enough articles. When I am on a roll, I may churn out three or four obscure little articles like this in a week. If they technically qualify they will usually be accepted, and the ones I start will usually technically qualify: long enough, grammatical, sourced, no copyvio etc.. But is there a type of article that is not being submitted enough? Subject no object - I like to research and write up subjects I previously knew nothing about. And should I submit them at all when an important function of DYK is to encourage new editors? Any advice? Aymatth2 (talk) 16:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
What happened here?When you handled the MfD for the subpages of the WP:Sandbox, why were these pages deleted? — Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 19:38, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Unblock request from Red Hot OrgThere is an unblock request at User talk:Red Hot Org from a user you spamusername blocked. I have looked at all of the editor's contributions, and my feeling is that, while certainly the username is unacceptable, the editing is not blatantly promotional, so I am inclined to unblock to allow a change of username. however, I thought it best to consult you first. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
PingYou got mailThe Resident Anthropologist (talk) 23:26, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Whoops, it looks as if you forgot you !voted in this AfD. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:37, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
--Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:08, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
It's raining thanks spam!
We have a common irritantHi! I'm contacting you because I see from Dreadarthur's talk page that you've had issues with this user's conduct on Wikipedia in the past. I've had dealings with him in the past too, on a couple of articles, although I should stress that these dealings were not hostile. Nonetheless, I do have major issues with the way he edits. He adds lots of material without citing verifiable sources, and on the odd occasion that he does add sources they often don't meet the reliable sources criteria. From his talk page, I see that a number of other editors have warned him about this in the past. In addition, he also clutters up the "References" section of articles that he works on with lots of non-sourced notes that are, at best, non-essential and at worst, totally irrelevant to the subject of the article. Just take a look at his recent work on the Michael Clarke page - poorly sourced and with a References section that's cluttered up with lots of largely irrelevant info. He also doesn't use the correct citation templates for inline refs, which is surprising considering how much editing he does. In short, for such a regular contributor to Wikipedia, he's quite a poor Wikipedian in my opinion. I'm not sure how best to proceed with my issues regarding this user, and that's why I'm approaching you I guess. With regards his improper use of the "References" section, obviously inline citations can be used for information that doesn't sit well within the main body of the text, but it's obvious to anyone that this should be the exception rather than the rule. I'm very tempted to go at the Michael Clarke article and strip out almost all of Dreadarthur's recent additions or perhaps revert to the edit immediately prior to his recent additions. Maybe that's a bit extreme and heavy handed though...then again, maybe it’s not. Verifiability is very important on Wikipedia and this user seems hell bent on ignoring that fact. Any thoughts on how I should proceed? --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 18:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Brian CliftonDear, you have deleted my article regarding the Belgian film composer Brian Clifton. This article was well written and is concerning a composer who has written the music for over 25 movies of which 2 American movies. There are almost none Belgian composers who have written for an American director, except Brian Clifton. This composer is surely not an unknown composer and has written music for known Belgian and Dutch movies. He's mentioned on the Internet Movie Database and on all major movie sites. So, I don't see any reason why this article was deleted. I had no idea that there was a discussion about the article, I've constated it just today... Could you please revert this deletion? It's also undeclarable why the author of the article (me) was not informed regarding the possible deletion. Could you please do the necessary? Maybe I can add some sources to be more reliable if that wasn't already the case. Thanks.Christo jones (talk) 19:12, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Done, now at User:Christo jones/Brian Clifton. -- Cirt (talk) 21:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC) DYK for Don't Forget the Bacon!
Orlady (talk) 12:02, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
You're very welcomeIt was my pleasure to read your new article on what sounds like a rather good children's book. Invertzoo (talk) 14:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC) Hi, could you reconsider your username block of this user (which I have unblocked under the usual condition that they submit an username change)? I believe that it is really a bit far-fetched to believe that his username represents a pair of breasts (which I also think are really nice things and not offensive at all :-). You may also want to refer the case to a discussion at WP:RFCN. Thanks, Sandstein 21:07, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Your commentsHi friend. You have misunderstood some points while writing comments on my talk page. Regarding your first comment about Islam page, the dispute is solved on 15 October, and the current dispute is related to anthropomorphism in Islam. Regarding edit war, you didn't pay attention what's going on there, and I don't understand why you left the vandal user and writing to me. I did what you mentioned in your coments [13], and we discussed in detail [14], and the vandal user wrote this and while neglected all the warnings [15] [16], he started vandalising that page. I hope my explanation be enough for you to delete your comments from my talk page, as I have always respected wikipedia's rules and I don't want to be accused for vandalism. Thanks and sorry for taking your time.--Aliwiki (talk) 23:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Portals and referencesAfter reviewing my portal at FPOC, Rodw had an interesting question about the references (or lack of them) in portals here, which I tried to answer here. Any thoughts from your esteemed position? BencherliteTalk 13:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
You reported this person to Administrator intervention against vandalism and I initially blocked this person but on closer examination of their edits, I believe they were trying to make good faith edits however incorrect they might be. Please engage this editor and discuss the merit of their edits on the article talk page. --A. B. (talk • contribs) 14:31, 4 November 2010 (UTC) Hi Cirt, thought this new article might interest you. SmartSE (talk) 18:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Accusation of vanadlismPlease explain why you accuse me of vandalism for appying a COI tag to the Werner Erhard vs CBS article. DaveApter (talk) 22:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC) Accusation of vanadlismWhy is it vandalism to write that Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) made some comments and jokes that are seen as racist, when he actually did say such things. Are you trying to censor me ? Please explain. Just look at the article itself and you will find many sourced information about his racistic comments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.32.109.14 (talk) 22:44, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Scott Ashjian
-- Cirt (talk) 06:02, 5 November 2010 (UTC) Hi Cirt, Really. If you are not prepared for information voluntarily provided by you on your talkpage and information voluntarily provided by members of a project to which you choose to join to be interpreted, I merely said that you "choose not to provide that data" or "did not appear to particiate", I fail to see how you can object when you propose to collect information, without their consent, on editors who nominate and reiew at WP:GAN. Pyrotec (talk) 09:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Israel-Palestine editingHi Cirt, following the recent deterioration in editing of the Israel-Palestine set of articles, I've set up a page to discuss the problem and possible solutions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Arbitration Enforcement/Israel-Palestine articles. Your input would be appreciated. PhilKnight (talk) 15:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi there Cirt. Thanks for closing the above discussion. I know it wasn't particularly difficult to discern the consensus... Anyhow, part of the nomination is a request to delete the past history of User:Studiodan; I know that's an unusual request, but that history duplicates the objectionable material and isn't needed for attribution of the current block template. Do you mind doing that? I really see no need to retain any trace of this material. Thanks in advance for your reply. — Gavia immer (talk) 19:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
removing delete/deadend message{{helpme}} Hi Cirt! I have tried to improve my page. When is it safe to remove the possible delete warning/notice at the top? Thanks! Melges450 (talk) 19:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
"Premature" SubmissionFYI, the situation here, which you participated in, has been resolved. I expected one of the admin coordinators would have seen my reminder on our noticeboard and would have deleted it before it was noticed by anyone else. Sorry for the confusion, Sven Manguard Talk 19:41, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I just messaged him, but he dosen't seem to be on, no contributions in two hours. We'll see where this takes us. Thanks, Sven Manguard Talk 00:11, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
WP Bacon in the SignpostWikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Bacon for a Signpost article to be published November 15. This particular article will look at WikiProject Bacon as an example of how new projects get started. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. I'm going to cook some bacon now... -Mabeenot (talk) 20:51, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Bob Adams (American football)
Cbl62 (talk) 12:03, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Jennifer Fitzgerald drvI'm not trying to argue (not that it would matter) but I would like to know your reasoning for endorsing deletion of Jennifer Fitzgerald. The afd procedure was extremely flawed and I am considering quitting Wikipedia if such standards (or lack thereof) are tolerated. Could you let me know your reasoning if you get a moment? Thanks --UhOhFeeling (talk) 20:55, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Really?--UhOhFeeling (talk) 17:55, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I've withdrawn this nomination because I won't be able to do the research in the next 7 days. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 15:29, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Is 48 hours required?For the in between time on Good Article reviews that are on hold? It seems kind of unnecessary if i've addressed all of the points already. (Silver seren) 165.91.173.213 (talk) 00:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
SPI caseJust an FYI, your SPI link is dead. I checked Betacommands directory and there is nothing either. -- DQ (t) (e) 01:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Deleting page "Amotz Shemi"Dear Cirt, I was wandering why the page "Amotz Shemi" was deleated. Amotz Shemi finished his PhD in Astrophysics but for the past 7 years has been involved in the bio-med world (Medinol & Silenseed). I understood in the past that the page was deleted as there was confusion if this was one person or two combined. Could you please let me know if it was deleted for a different reason? Thanks Gili —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilifocht (talk • contribs) 08:33, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Tory Christman
-- Cirt (talk) 12:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC) FYISince you were the closing admin for the AfD for Shakti (2011 film), I am letting you know that I have removed the AfD template on the article you seem to have missed. Cheers.-- Forty two 09:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I reverted all your changes backI reverted all your changes back because this was no vandalism and this are legitimate edits. But I would accept that this edits are wrong if somebody else reverted them back, who could explain to me why they were so wrong. I do not think that your explanation was sufficent.Xpjohn (talk) 19:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Chandra LevyThank you for undertaking the GA review. I wait your analysis and stand ready to make any necessary changes. Racepacket (talk) 18:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Looking for your input on this articleHi Cirt, Jeff Bedford here. Over the past week, having searched for "Royal Holiday Club" and coming across an AfD discussion, I thought I could be of help as I am familiar with the subject matter. I am not employed by the organization; however as it happens they have been a client of my employer in the past and I see it best to disclose any potential WP:COI upfront. Looking at the AfD discussion, it seems that the article in the past was blatantly promotional, apparently citing no reliable sources, and among other things did not appear to establish notability. Though I am not able to see what that variation consisted of, it likely contained little (perhaps no) encyclopedic content - so in the interest of building the encyclopedia, I've taken a stab at drafting up an article on this subject -- citing reliable sources, and aligning with Wikipedia's WP:CORP notability guideline. I've also paid particular attention to write in a manner consistent with WP:NPOV, reflecting all aspects of the subject including litigation. Instead of merely posting the article to mainspace, I thought it best to get your initial feedback/thoughts on the draft that I've saved here: User:Jeff_Bedford/Proposed_Royal_Holiday_article. Cheers, Jeff Bedford (talk) 21:44, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I admit that my edits are wrongI admit that my edits are wrong, please give me a chance to be a good editor.Xpjohn (talk) 13:08, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Regarding this: Hello, Cirt. You have new messages at Sven Manguard's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
I admit that I´m Cmmmm but I can not stop editing because I´m addicted to wikipedia.Xpjohn (talk) 15:50, 8 November 2010 (UTC) I noticed you locked Gospel of Luke. I agree with the locking. I posted a comment on the talk page, regarding what the dispute is. Maybe you could leave a note on the matter?RomanHistorian (talk) 17:43, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System
Cbl62 (talk) 18:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Significant discussion?What exactly are you looking for when you say that you want more "significant discussion" in the Critical Reception section of Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass? (User:Silver seren) 165.91.166.182 (talk) 23:33, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Marcus WilliamsonCan you please reinstate the article on the journalist Marcus Williamson, which was just beginning to take shape? Thank you. Other Wikipedia articles which link to that page can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Marcus_Williamson 80.42.221.179 (talk) 11:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Eva McConnell pageCirt Is there any reading of the reasons given for deletion? JJR made the comment that Eva is not even a supercentenarian. Eva is the oldest person born in Australia since it became a nation. Australia is less than 110 years old. It becomes 110 on 1 January 2011. Libstar made the comment that it is ridiculous because she is the 4th oldest person in her country. But that is not the point. Edison made the point that being the 4th oldest is insufficient. But again, that is not the point. Yeti Hunter states that he/she agrees with JJR. (see above). The only person who does not make a mistaken point is David in DC. Anyone deleting the page must surely take this into account. Take away these mistakes and the vote is to keep. These people may agree with David in DC, but that is not what they said. Alan Davidson (talk) 03:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I've restored the article which I'd userified in the process of closing the DRV, which you were doing simultaneously. While the deletion was endorsed, there's nothing particularly problematic about the article from a BLP perspective. I assume you didn't see who moved it? I'm all ears if you've seen a problem I missed. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC) IP Block ExemptThanks much. I appreciate it. - Nellis 19:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC) GbiasiCirt, could you chime in at User talk:Gbiasi? He's asking for a review of his username block, and I can't see anything obviously screwy. I presume there was some other activity going on at the time, but I'm missing it. thanks! Kuru (talk) 22:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
HelpI created page I Love Bacon! and i wanted to you to look it over(its a stub right now). I dont know why the title is in italics. Spongie555 (talk) 06:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
ThanksI notice that you are working very hard over at DYK. I appreciate your dedication! -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
As part of a revamp of the portal, I've adedd Portal:Law/Selected article/9, in a blatant bid to win your support if and when I take it to FPOC! BencherliteTalk 15:53, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Mission: Earth, Voyage to the Home Planet
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC) Request for apology and undertaking to not treat others as you have treated meCirt, I previously made several edits to Wikipedia, about a year ago. I approached them carefully, and I feel that you Cirt, dealt with me arbitrarily, and did not give due consideration to my acting in good faith. The edits I made were with regard to Georgism ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgism&diff=prev&oldid=300020159 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgism&diff=prev&oldid=299028068 ) Local Currency ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Local_currency&diff=prev&oldid=182470175 ) the American Monetary Institute ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_Monetary_Institute&diff=prev&oldid=182077522 ) and the Way to Happiness ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Way_to_Happiness&diff=prev&oldid=315443336 ). Of these, the only one that persists is the one on Local Currency. There was an agreement about the second Georgist edit, but it has since been lost in revisions. Previously to making several of these edits, I posted to the talk page about making them, see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:American_Monetary_Institute ; http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Georgism&oldid=299051494 - which indicated a good faith attempt at edits, by posting edits to the discussion for a given web page, as suggested on that web page. The posting made to my user site by you was a boilerplate/cookie cutter comment which showed no investigation as to the context and my own history of asking first, and making an effort to be reasonable about my my edits. I had in fact only put in the "fact" comment on another article. This is what you could have done with regard to my own edits, together with a suggestion that there be a dialogue about it, with you developing things in stages. I was willing to agree to have some content taken off if was seen as not appropriate, I'm not sure about the conflict of interest claim, but I was certainly willing to discuss it at the time. Separately, the manner in which you operated left me cold to Wikipedia. My issue is not about any particular edit, but rather the way you conducted yourself. The Mencius reference was done in good faith; I put in a web link because it would be easily verifiable, while I had a paper reference. Likewise, the comment on the American_Monetary_Institute was done in good faith; the lack of content has since prompted bots to give it a "stub" status, with a suggestion that "you can help improve this page". Great. Yeah. Like I'd be motivated to after my experience. I still assert that my content was neutral and worthwhile for someone trying to make sense of Zarlenga's position. At the time I'd pushed things with the Mencius reference didn't have the stamina to go on. I would like an apology from you on this and an undertaking to treat other new edits more fairly, making an investigation of the context of their edits and putting in "fact" comments rather than immediate edits, and not putting kneejerk boilerplate / cookie cutter comments on their talk page. The whole experience has left me cold. I believe I make good faith and generally worthwhile edits to Wikipedia; I might have contributed more, but do not feel this will ever be the case. In any case, I would appreciate the above apology and undertaking from you. JohnAugust (talk) 21:22, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
You have made a bland assurance and not engaged with my content at all.I challenge your claim. If you do not engage with what I am saying I will take this to dispute resolution. JohnAugust (talk) 04:11, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Blatant ? While trying to figure out what was what, I noted on the chat page the material I intended to post. I think that in fact shows my genuine intent, my good faith, something you refuse to recognise. Further, you've not proven all the material is as you assert - I ended up putting in the Mencius quote in an agreed fashion - clearly the edit was genuine. Other edits could be likewise genuine if you don't assume that what you say is the case merely because you say it is. In addition, you've not engaged with the material I've put forth in my initial comment above. That's what I meant, and it should have been pretty clear. I plan to take this to dispute resolution around the 20th of this month, unless you make some engagement with what I'm saying. JohnAugust (talk) 09:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
It is clear you will not engage or acknowledge anything I put to you. I'll be going to dispute resolution, but it will take some time to familiarise myself with policies and put my arguments together. I'll keep you informed of progress in this regard. JohnAugust (talk) 00:19, 20 November 2010 (UTC) I know it's been a while since the AFD, but I'd appreciate it if you could userfy Energon (power source) for me. Thank you for your time, --Divebomb (talk) 09:30, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Welcome messageIn fact, I'm Baylink@en.wp, but even 6 years later, Mediawiki *still* does not have a "add your username and password to a posting, and post as logged in" feature, and I was too lazy to retype it all. Nice bot, though; thanks. :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.94.26 (talk) 16:20, 11 November 2010 (UTC) It looks like the Lyfjahonnun group has created a new account. Since you used a spamblock and not a softerblock, I figured I'd let you know. We may need a subject matter expert in order to figure out whether these contributions are constructive or not.
Then there's the original article:
I'm not sure what needs to be done to untangle this. Gigs (talk) 17:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Please review this policy, and don't make that irrelevant and offensive personal attack again. In case you didn't notice, I was the one who made the other AFD nomination. Review WP:COI, too, before you falsely accuse me of violating it. THF (talk) 22:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
IP address and user having suspiciously similar editsSorry to bother you with this. I couldn't really find a forum where this would go. I went to portal film looking for an administrator and found your name there so... I have been editing the article mumblecore for the past few weeks. One anon editor User:99.48.214.16 has been taking out films listed as mumblecore, with references indicating some connection to mumblecore. I have been adding them back in. Today, an editor User:Ohwhataslaughter removed the same three films but gave an edit summary, something I requested the IP to do. Because of that, instead of reverting the edits, I took the conversation to the talk page. However, the edit histories of the IP and Ohwhataslaughter are very similar, although the last time Ohwhataslaughter edited wikipedia, before today, was 2008. I am wondering if this is something that should be pursued or not? XinJeisan (talk) 08:33, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Your comment blanking on Talk:Sharron AngleSome good reason for this, Cirt?[24]24.18.132.13 (talk) 11:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Unblock request fromTropicallanternsThere is an unblock request at User talk:Tropicallanterns. The user is offering to change user name. A quick look at their edit history does not give me the impression that their is any problem, so I am inclined to accept the request, but thought it better to check with you first. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:03, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
alt text in infoboxesHi. I was adding alt text to an image in I Love Bacon! and went to do it for the image in the book infobox as well, but they don't seem to have that facility/option. I had the same problem with the play infobox at La Tosca. Given the requirement for alt text for FA and DYK images, I would have thought infoboxes should have it, or at least an option to add it. Any suggestions? Voceditenore (talk) 14:35, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Your harassmentPlease read the WP:COIN introduction:
Then please apologize to me and strike your false allegation. You're going to get both of us sued. THF (talk) 14:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
SleeThank you for your improvements. I still believe the article should reflect more of the chronology of the case as well as the facts of Slee's death. I have replied on the GA1 sub-talk listing sources and the information I found in them. I certainly want to conclude this review as quickly as possible, but I suggest that it would be worth your time to restructure the sections describing the lawsuit to give more of a sense of the passage of time, what happened when, etc. For example, you could take the complaint and list the different causes of action used to bring the lawsuit. Then describe the discovery battle, the fact that both sides offered expert witnesses, the trial, and then the appeal including the issues raised on appeal. Please let me know what you think of this suggestion. I just want this article to be NPOV and complete. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 16:46, 12 November 2010 (UTC) inre Cad BaneThis article was originally an unsourced plot-only article that had turned into a reasonable redirect in April of 2009.[25] Editor User:Jhenderson777 felt it had potential and expanded and sourced the old redirect to recreate the article.[26] However, problems arose with possible copyvio and the article was tagged for such.[27] He has userfied his work so that he can address concerns, but out of mainspace. As an admin, could/would you please revert the article back to its safe April 25, 2009 redirect status?[28] Jhenderson777 would like to continue work on his improvements in userspace and not have it considered for return to mainspace until all agree that the concerns have been completely addressed. Do-able? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:37, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi Cirt, can I please get the deleted article for Ball Park Music restored so I can expand and reference it. Thanks. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:50, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Would you mind restoring Edwin Ubiles? He is now a professional basketball player, which satisfies notability. ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 17:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Nomination of Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System for deletionA discussion has begun about whether the article Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion. You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- Cirt (talk) 17:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Spacefarer (talk) 17:35, 13 November 2010 (UTC) [29] Hi Cirt, I'm not familiar with how to exactly go about this, I will I guess just add a hotlink line to my profile but the discussion I'm not sure how that will manifest itself. Sorry if this sounds jumbled not used to defending cited pages that are guilty to be proven innocent but it was my intention to take you up on your offer. I will however educate myself on wikipolicy on this though and I appreciate your efforts to put this to consensus. Thank you. Hholt01 (talk) 15:28, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
ANI noticeHello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Concern about administrative conduct on deletion request. Thank you. Am notifying for discussion starter. Strange Passerby (talk • contribs) 17:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Retrieving deleted Wikipedia:Sandbox/ChessOn Oct. 25, 2010, you speedy deleted Wikipedia:Sandbox/Chess. Is there any way you can get it back or at least get the information in it back, including the History? There is a chess game I played in there, which I would like to copy to another place. H Padleckas (talk) 23:09, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
South Park vandalI was minded to suggest those two reports of yours at AIV go to ANEW, however, I've blocked both for a week because it's obvious they're trying to avoid a block by logging out and editing as an IP. I've hard blocked the IP, so hopefully you won't have to put up with any socks for a week. Anyway, at first glance, I can only see an edit war over images and caption in various South Park episode articles, so I'm just wondering if this is just someone determined to make a nuisance of themselves in an edit war or if there's something else going on that I'm missing. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:54, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Re: Alito RFPP requestI hear what you're saying, but I can't help but think that's a little premature given James' lack of direct involvement in the other articles. I'll keep my eyes on it (and SPI in mind), but for now I think the benefit of the doubt is appropriate. - Simon Dodd { U·T·C·WP:LAW } 15:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
GANHey Cirt, I don't know if I should ask you since you and have shared some bacon together in the past, but I was wondering if you could have a look at the two articles I have listed at GAN--Guillaume de Dole and The Land of Green Plums. I know you've reviewed a lot of books and I think you're an equal opportunity offender; I have faith in your objectivity. As an aside, I had a look at The Book of est, and I think it looks great, but it made me realize that there's a lot I need to learn here to help reviewing GANs--give me some time and I'll come to help the project there. Thanks in advance, Drmies (talk) 15:58, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Can you take a look?I was alerted to TheTimesAreAChanging (talk · contribs) by YellowMonkey on my talk page. I just went by to check the contribs and saw that you had already researched something and posted on the related ANI discussion and warned him on his talk page. There are now subsequent edit summaries like "undo random, blanking of sourced material for no stated reason by YellowMonkey, who has privately told me he intends to vandalize this article because he hates Kissinger the evil war criminal", "ditto; outlandish and absurd conspiracy theories from far-left propagandists and chomsky cultists should not be obsessively regurgitated in a barely literate fashion on Wikipedia, you poor adolescent" etc. I've got to step out now and don't have the time to investigate, but since you've already had a look-in could you relook at this? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 18:26, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
I believe that you are an admin. Can you please look at the talk page of the John W. Flores article. There is a name and phone number given, as well as an e-mail address of an unconfirmed user. It seems to me that this kind of info can't be verified and should be removed. I'd do it myself, but I am uncertain about deleting the content of other people's comments...as well as how to delete it from the history. Your attention would be appreciated. Thanks! The Eskimo (talk) 20:00, 15 November 2010 (UTC) AllthingCirt, You recently deleted Allthing per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allthing. Could you re-create the page as a redirect to Althing, the Icelandic Parliament? Several users suggested doing this, and this is a highly likely misspelling which should be redirected. Thanks, D O N D E groovily Talk to me 02:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Grenfell College Student UnionHi Cirt, Recently, you deleted the Grenfell College Student Union page as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grenfell College Student Union. I feel, again, quite disheartened by the fact that Wikipedians were given only eight days from when it was previously restored from Speedy Deletion to fix up the article. Furthermore, the note of one user on the discussion towards the deletion notes there only being a few sources directly integrated into page which mentions the Union in passing... while another user had posted several valid sources in the deletion discussion as examples of what was to be integrated. As we have only had a single day over a week to do so, we've not been successful in integrating all of the sources that I and a few other interested users have found to integrate into the page. I'd ask if you could restore said page so that we can have a real shot at getting those things properly formatted and having a legitimate article herein. I'm interested in trying to improve all of the pages related to Memorial University of Newfoundland and this is a just another part in doing so -- as all articles tied to it are fairly weak. All the best, Brad Evoy (talk) 07:28, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
my user pageany way to get the data that was there, i don't want to recreate the page but i do want the data. Vlame (talk) 09:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)vlame
DYK for Leavenworth Nutcracker Museum
The DYK project (nominate) 18:07, 16 November 2010 (UTC) I can't finish the reviewSend Don't Forget the Bacon! back to the GAN page. I'm being "investigated" for "too close paraphrasing". :) Brother, what next? I guess I'm expected to rewrite about a hundred articles. I can't do that. Anyway, check your article through for "too close paraphrasing" of the sources, revise if necessary, and resubmit. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
BS
Your assistance pleaseI saw your suggestion at User talk:Cunard that an {{rfc}} be initiated on my conduct. I replied there. The short version of my response is:
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 03:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
List of Russian supercentenariansIt looks clear that the article has been deleted after a false argument that there are only 26 verified supercentenarians ever while there are more then 1000 of them and 85 are currently living. The community consensus was to Keep the article.--217.67.189.2 (talk) 09:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Deletion despite meeting Wikipedia requirements for notabilityHello Cirt, Why was the Artificial Peace page deleted despite meeting FOUR Wikipedia requirements for notability for musicians and ensembles? Please note that the rules state a band must only meet ONE such rule to be deemed notable. Below are the criteria listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28music%29 that Artificial Peace satisfies: 1) Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself. Artificial Peace has been the subject of at least THREE books: ONE: Andersen, Mark & Jenkins, Mark (2001), Dance of Days: Two Decades of Punk in the Nation's Capitol, New York, NY: Akashic Books, ISBN 1-888451-44-0. TWO: Connolly, Cynthia; Clague, Leslie & Cheslow, Sharon (1988), Banned in DC: Photos and Anecdotes From the DC Punk Underground 1979-85, Washington, DC: Sun Dog Propaganda, ISBN 978-0-9620944-0-8 . THREE: Blush, Steven & Petros, George (2001) American, George Hardcore: a Tribal History Feral House, ISBN-10: 0922915717 5) Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of whom are notable).
6) Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles.
7) Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.
Only one of the four above criteria is needed to satisfy the requirements for notability for musicians and ensembles. Please restore the Artificial Page page or explain why it has been deleted despite meeting the criteria for notability. Thank you. RM 67.189.13.84 (talk) 22:07, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello Cirt, Thank you for your suggestion. Is that standard operating procedure for such a situation? I've already spent a considerable amount of time building and formatting the page, as well as searching for and then citing multiple 3rd party references. And then I've spent even more time defend something that already meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. I don't mean to seem cynical, but why should I believe I'll be treated any differently if I follow your suggestion? Please advise. Thank you. RM 67.189.13.84 (talk) 01:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello Cirt, I have registered an account as Orange_28. Does it take time for the account to become active? The page comes up as red linked/does not exist. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.13.84 (talk) 19:40, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mel KrajdenPlease will you give the reasons why you deleted this article? Xxanthippe (talk) 04:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC).
Cirt, I was also very surprised at your conclusion that the result of that discussion was "delete". I would have called it "no consensus" since opinions were pretty much evenly split, with possibly stronger arguments in favor of "keep". (Also note that the original nomination was by an anonymous SPA, submitted to AfD by a neutral third party.) Could you take another look at the discussion there, and see if you still think the consensus was "delete"? Thanks --MelanieN (talk) 15:18, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
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Done, moved it back into article mainspace, and nominated for AFD as procedural nom for community reassessment of the changed page. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 03:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
ArticleHi want to to start a a new page about Harry Opie Winston, a character from Sons of Anarchy. I was told by wikipedia to contact you first. signed, SOA fan —Preceding unsigned comment added by SOA fan (talk • contribs) 05:46, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Caesary PageThe Caesary page was being considered for deletion but was being updated and changed to meet requirements of Wikipedia. Unfortunately the page was drastically altered and spammed until it was no longer fit for being hosted on Wikipedia and was deleted. I would ask that you return the page to the last version by myself or shortly after so that we may continue to work on it and make it presentable. --Jeirhart (talk) 07:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Why deletion of Voluntary Content RatingYou deleted the article Voluntary_Content_Rating based on one vote (which incorrectly stated spam, because spam is only valid when there is no relevant content) and the request as non-notable. The Article was very useful, though, because it lists the only simple alternative to the ICRA labels (Internet_Content_Rating_Association). ICRA labels impose restrictions on the content which are incompatible with free content¹, and PIC is quite complicated, so VCR is the only useful alternative for small website owners. And ICRA is dead… → http://icra.org ¹: http://draketo.de/licht/ich/meine-seite-ist-ab-18#fn:VCR (german) So it was not non-notable and spam was assessed incorrectly (at least for the version I read a few years ago). And there was just one vote to kill an article which had useful content and had been around for at least one and a half years². ²: 1,5 years, because that was when I linked to it on http://draketo.de/schatten Please undo the deletion. The content is very useful to webmasters, especially in germany where we now have to mark all pages.Draketo (talk) 12:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Re this, can you explain why in your closing statement you appear to have side-stepped the fact that the reason for deletion was for failing WP:NOT, WP:EVENT and WP:AIRCRASH (both the current essay and proposed guideline), not for simply failing the WP:GNG (to which even the arguments on that score were weak to the point of simple assertion, for an article that is still only sourced to news articles of one 24 hours news cycle). If you see a consensus in there actually dealing with the whole rationale, and not just the GNG, then maybe you can give one or two examples here of the sort of comments you think supported a determination of a "strong consensus" outcome on that score. Otherwise, I think you've made a very basic mistake in policy here, which requires review. No single Afd has the power to elevate the GNG to the status of the sole criteria for inclusion at Wikipedia, not even under IAR, even the GNG itself is clear on that score, under the presumption clause. I am also pretty concerned that by examining your contribs, you appear to have spent less than four minutes reviewing that rather large discussion before closure, which does not seem enough time to give it anything other than a cursory look. This seems to be confirmed by the fact you chose not to comment on several of the points I made specifcally for the benefit of the closer, such as the piggybacking on Lugnut's flawed GNG based rationale (which he repeatedly chose not to defend in any way at all). MickMacNee (talk) 15:19, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Jay Hudson DeletionI see that you were the first person to recently delete the Jay Hudson article. I would like to know the specific reasons for this. It seems that his status as a local celebrity would more than qualify him for a page. I'd like to note that many other Detroit area radio shows have pages, Drew and Mike for instance, have a page and have for a while. I look forward to working with you. Mick (talk) 17:50, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Ouch....Saw the ICSA source you added to James R. Lewis' Scientology article. You being one of the Primary contributors to Xenu thats gotta be a slap in the face. Are You going to be planning a rewrite of the Xenu article after reading that? I personally tend to agree Rothstein's opinion more. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 19:30, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Leo Ryan articleFeel free to reorganize the paragraph for wording. I thought that the fact that Layton had been found not guilty by another court and could not be tried in the US for the obvious charge was significant so I added it. But I didn't do much to make sure that the article flowed well. Roadrunner (talk) 03:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Note to self - possible book articles to create
So far, research indicates the first two may have the most amount of secondary source coverage. -- Cirt (talk) 04:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
HoorayFor removal of unsourced articles from the main page. The chattering classes at Talk:Main Page are pretty ridiculous; calling for a decrease in compliance with core policies eg WP:V by replacing FAs with random unsourced articles, instead of bothering to look for an article that is actually sourced. lol YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 01:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Restarted talk page you deleted - see LyrakaHi, Cirt. Just to let you know, restarted a talk page you deleted a few months ago. Article is up and running again. You may well have A7-d the article itself as well, but of course I can't see that in the page history. Article tagged for notability.--Shirt58 (talk) 11:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Problems with AfD closesIf your concern is that Wikipedia should be more bureaucratic, please raise that at WT:NOT. If your concern is that somebody is making bad AfD closes, please take that up with the editor in question, taking it through dispute resolution until a satisfactory consensus is reached on perceived conduct problems. If your concern is with the circumstances of one particular close, take it through deletion review. I closed the discussion at Administrators' noticeboard because it seems to be misplaced. Since you think that it's important to observe established procedures, please do follow the very well established procedures in this case. --TS 10:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Truth in Numbers?
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Talk:Main PagePlease see my comment replying to you. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 20:34, 18 November 2010 (UTC) Orphaned non-free image File:Landmark Education logo2.jpgThanks for uploading File:Landmark Education logo2.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media). If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. — Huntster (t @ c) 21:59, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. You closed this as delete but, as nominator, I request you to change your close to Redirect to Douglas Youvan#Christian Apologetics. I had agreed that as a compromise with the article author, and invited two others who had !voted delete to agree. You will see in the debate that they both did, and there was only one last-minute !voter who came in as delete. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:12, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
GA ReviewsCirt, I know that you are extremely busy, but any progress on reviewing Chandra Levy or adding the missing paragraph to Estate of Jack Slee v. Werner Erhard would be appreciated. Many thanks! Racepacket (talk) 06:36, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Sandbox/tool testRE: Wikipedia:Sandbox/tool test to User:Adamtheclown/tool test Can you please undelete and move this article into a subpage of my user page? It was created in that location because an editor told this new editor to create it there. Thank you. Adamtheclown (talk) 05:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Yuri RutmanA "Ron Ritzman" claims you ok'd the reposting of the entry of spam artist Yuri Rutman. "He" claims that the Yuri Rutman spam artist and the Yuri Rutman who wrote his own entry in Wikipedia are not the same person (quite a postmodern invention!). I am deeply suspicious of this "Ron Ritzman" (isn't Ritzman just a bit too close to Rutman for comfort?) I have stated on "his" discussion board, as I will state here, that inclusion of Yuri Rutman in Wikipedia compromises Wikipedia's integrity. Yuri Rutman is absolutely insignificant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truebobjohnson (talk • contribs)
Roger Waters FACFYI, I have re-nominated Roger Waters for FAC, and we could use your input at the FAC page. — GabeMc (talk) 22:54, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Paid EditingI have come across a Paid Editor Sigma0 1 (talk · contribs) who works for Bluebike Terminologies who has creating articles which fails WP:N ,WP:ORG etc for IdeaConnection and [30] and [31] Do I report the editor to WP:SPAM or to WP:COIN Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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Further to 'Request for Apology'I mistakenly edited the archive yesterday. Anyway, copying that material to here, now : It is clear you will not engage or acknowledge anything I put to you. I'll be going to dispute resolution, but it will take some time to familiarise myself with policies and put my arguments together. I'll keep you informed of progress in this regard.JohnAugust (talk) 11:04, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Request assistance in cleanup of possible essayUser:John Carter/Wikipedia:The Next Generation is a rough essay I have written about a few ideas which might help reduce the amount of time and effort spent in certain areas around here. The disadvantage, of course, is that, as a work, it is disastrously poorly written and organized. If, and I know this is a big if, you were to want to read it, and if you thought it of any value, please feel free to do any of the editing it so clearly needs to help make it a bit more presentable prior to a possible move to main wikipedia space. Thanks for your attention. John Carter (talk) 19:57, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of The Book of estThe article The Book of est you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:The Book of est for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:36, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Inter2GeoHi, it looks like you judged from the deletion discussion of Inter2Geo that the article should be deleted. When looking at the comments made then there are statements like "no secondary sources" in the pro-deletion comments which are clearly (!) countered by citing independent secondary sources in the no-deletion-comments. So I do not really understand your decision - can you explain or maybe revise your decision ? --Kortenkamp (talk) 09:57, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Xxanthippe (talk) 01:24, 20 November 2010 (UTC).
GA Jack Slee v. ErhardI have made a suggestion on coverage of the trial at the bottom of the GA review. The ultimate decision is yours to make. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 13:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
WoopsSorry about mucking up your links, it was user:js/urldecoder.js acting on too much of the page. –xenotalk 14:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Keiko FujimoriHe's at it again, the same edits, over and over and over. Please consider a longer block. I assumed good faith the first time, but WP:competence and disruptive editing come into play. Or can we lock it down until a neutral, actual English version is written incorporating whatever may be useful?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:32, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Page protectionI'm wondering if you would consider reducing the length of the semi-protection at Deaths in 2010. The entry you were concerned was not reliably sourced was replaced with a reliable source, and three months seems a long time for such a relatively minor matter. I left a note at WP:BLPN#Britton Chance, as has another long time editor of the Deaths in 2010 page, but I'm not sure if you've had a chance to review it. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 22:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Nudge? No rush, but... it's been six weeks since you said you'd pop back in a couple of weeks to close it. Regards, BencherliteTalk 01:55, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Slim da Mobster userfyHey Cirt could you userfy for me the Slim da Mobster article that was deleted? I have found more info on him and plan to make it better and will not introduce it into article space until ready. STATic message me! 03:50, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank You......for your welcome to Wikipedia. What a fascinating & amazing place in which to suddenly blunder behind the scenes. Looking through the many guidelines articles and being privileged to look through your talk page has been wonderfully daunting & informative, I'm very grateful. Yours, Will6iam (talk) 08:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Your Advice SoughtHi, Cirt, I see you have posted at a current RFC that involves me. By viewing your talk page here and following some of the links, I am reminded that you are quite an experienced editor and administrator and concerned about proper sourcing of articles. It also appears that you have considerable experience in working on topics that have been highly contentious in various online communities over the years. Thus I'd be glad to hear from you, in as much detail as your busy schedule allows you to provide, how better to work with multiple editors on topics for which I have been gathering sources, some of which relate to articles that were the subject of an Arbitration Committee case that began soon after I registered my Wikipedia account. I've worked in brick-and-mortar editorial offices in two different countries, and I've been online since 1992, but Wikipedia is my first experience (and most people's first experience) of working in an online editorial office with many, many editors and no sole editor-in-chief, so I'd appreciate your advice on how to become further acculturated to work pattern of the Wikipedia project. Thanks for your help and all the best to you. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 15:38, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
I edited the original image to remove "the cigarette smoking man", and reverted back the image in the article. – ukexpat (talk) 18:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for The Truth According to Wikipedia
Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
FARHi Cirt - Could you please revisit your comments at the The Notorious B.I.G. FAR (review page at Wikipedia:Featured article review/The Notorious B.I.G./archive1)? Gimme has responded to the comments that have been left so far, and so any further comments or a keep/oppose declaration would be appreciated. Thanks, Dana boomer (talk) 14:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
WP:AE case about Communist terrorismPlease see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive73#Result concerning Collect. This request was archived by the bot before formal closing. I went ahead and imposed an article 1RR at Communist terrorism, and added a comment to the archive file. If the 1RR is not enough to hold down the edit warring, perhaps an indefinite full protection might be considered. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 22:18, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Battlefield Earth (film)The ==Cast== section should be kept in. There is no reason to hunt for actors or characters in the story line, when this section is available and a standard film format. Savolya (talk) 22:19, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
PeraltaHi Cirt, I got a Thanksgiving email from José Peralta today even though we don't celebrate that at all :) It's because of our attempts to get a pic I guess, so you got one too, no? In any case, happy Thanksgiving! Hekerui (talk) 23:31, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Thankskilling Article Recreated, Very PoorlyHi, I'm not sure why this did not get speedily deleted right off the bat, but someone has put up a new article for Thankskilling. It is not even a stub, and it should exist only in a sandbox. How do we kill it again? Thanks, Ebikeguy (talk) 15:42, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Deleted Randy Cooke ArticleHi Cirt, If you could make a draft version available, that would be great. Also, to assist me in writing the new version, is there any way for me to view the content of the deleted Randy Cooke article? Thanks for your help, and I apologize for the delay in response. Katieohalloran89 (talk) 06:58, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Bacon topic idea, List of books-- Cirt (talk) 14:28, 28 November 2010 (UTC) 2010 Arbitration Committee Elections
Relevant pages:
-- Cirt (talk) 15:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC) Could you please userfy the article to me at User:MichaelQSchmidt/workspace/Havana Heat (film) so I might expand and source it in preparation for incubation? Thanks much. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
AprisoHi Cirt, I went to create a Wiki page for a company called "Apriso" and saw that the previous page had been deleted and - from the sounds of it - included marketing language and not enough references to establish notability back in February or so. I don't know exactly what the previous article looked like - I'm sure there must be a way to look at the previous versions, but I did want to invite you to take a look at the draft I have on my talk page and add any input or discussion. King4057 (talk) 23:59, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Yah fair enough - need to find better references than Wapedia. They had such a great treasure trove of information, but I don't really know where they got it from. Can you elaborate where it is promotional or PoV? I certainly don't have a point-of-view on the company, so I don't know what point of view I've unknowingly incorporated into the article. King4057 (talk) 18:19, 19 November 2010 (UTC) Just found lots of sources in manufacturing publications, but still digging for something more biographical about their history for that section... King4057 (talk) 18:56, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
King4057 (talk) 18:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
discussion about deletion of articleHi there, This article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_O%27Rourke was deleted on grounds of lack of notability of the artist. Reading up on how to go about proposing to restore the article, it says that I should "take it up with the deleting admin". Is that you? Pabandorra (talk) 11:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi Cirt, thanks for setting that up. Now for a newbie question, and please do take it as a question rather than part of a discussion: The article was deleted on grounds of lack of notability. I am now quite au fait with the notability question regarding musicians et al, and I can see that the article made little or no attempt to put forward any notability, no real references included, also dryly written with no pics or goodness in general. However, if one can imagine a more engageing article setting the artist in her niche which is quite an interesting one (for some!), I would think that being part of the band for Eric Burden and the Animals(House of the Rising Sun?), writing and recording with George Clinton (the king of outlandish funk, and not mentioned in old article), founding member of Liar (recognized by wiki) and constant collaborator of Eric Mcfadden (also recognized by wiki) should be considered as grounds for notabilty. Again, I am not posing this point as part of a discussion, this is not the place, but could you give me an educated opinion on this point as it pertains to the deletion? It seems to me it was deleted as part of a clean-up, and drab and undocumented as the article was I am not surprised, but Eric Burden and the animals are grade-A notable, surely? ...as is George Clinton. I'm just worried I won't be able to find enough references from the press. I would need to spam all music mags in the SF Bay Area, AND Barcelona, AND Paris to find articles over the last 15 years, for that is where she made her mark ... and that isn't going to be a reasonable undertaking. I have found a clear article in "El Pais" a big spanish paper, but one is not enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pabandorra (talk • contribs) 16:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC) I must remember to sign my posts Pabandorra (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
AfDI have found sources relevant to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Catherine McQueen and ask you to revisit your !vote/nom. Thanks, Bigger digger (talk) 16:59, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Looks much better. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 21:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Mark B. Newbauer deletionHi Cirt- I want to be in line with Wikipedia standards and practices, but believe the deletion was without merit-- I ask that you please re-consider as, aside from press releases, the company and its founder can be verified in other highly regarded press such as 'UGO','Hollywood Reporter', 'Variety' and even supported by George R.R. Martin (author of HBO's upcoming Game of Thrones) as Newbauer's company, Mike the Pike Productions recently optioned the rights to his werewolf novella. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Filmphile (talk • contribs) 22:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
That would be great- please and thank you-- and being new to this, can you PLEASE assist me in providing anything necessary to effect meeting acceptable standards to keeping the page active? thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Filmphile (talk • contribs) 23:22, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SPSL CupCirt, you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SPSL Cup, but you didn't deleted the other article and the template that were also nominated. As the nominator, I can't do it myself. Fram (talk) 08:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcomeCirt, I appreciate the welcome and the links to the information. I've actually been here for a long time, I just don't contribute much due to lack of time and really, not knowing more about how to go about making larger contributions. I think what you sent me was just what I needed. Exixx (talk) 04:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
I am willing to take over the review, if you don't object. Racepacket (talk) 03:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Cirt. Would you be willing to move this article to my userspace? I think I would be able to add enough additional sources to bring it up to notability standards. Thanks, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 03:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Cirt. As with wiki guidelines, I wish to contact you re: the creation of a wikipedia page for the Literary and Debating Society in NUI, Galway. I am contacting you as much of the information I would like to add would be very similar if not the same as that in the article deleted. I would be more than willing to remove such parts as the list of past auditors and vice auditors (as was mentioned on the deletion article) and replacing it with a list of previous notable auditors. The reason I wish to create another article on the Literary and Debating society is that I do not believe it's just a student club at a single school. It is a society that predates the university and many other societies of similar notability such as the [Literary and Historical Society (University College Dublin)]] and the UCC Philosophical Society. It has not only played a vital part in the shaping of NUI, Galway it is the origin of important bodies within the university such as the Students' Union. It is a society that was also under the auditorship of several notable persons and contributed much to the city around it. Any advise you can give me would be much appreciated. Many thanks. Mitsuko045 (talk) 06:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Bacon ManiaHas the bacon mania page also been removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.47.121.35 (talk) 18:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Your input would be helpful here.There’s a discussion at AE here about whether to extend topic bans from the race and intelligence arbitration case to include discussions related to these articles at other fora. The current proposal calls for this extension to be made for other topic banned editors, but not for Mathsci. I’ve just noticed Mathsci sniping at you in an unrelated discussion because he disagrees with the opinions you’ve expressed in an RFC related to these articles: [33] [34] Do you have an opinion about whether if topic bans from this case are extended to discussions in other fora, an exception ought to be made in Mathsci’s case so that he can continue bringing up issues related to these articles in other discussions? If you do, I think it would be helpful for you to comment there. I don’t think any of the admins participating in that discussion have noticed these two newest comments from Mathsci yet, but they’re an example of why I think if this restriction is going to be added to topic bans from the case, Mathsci shouldn’t be excluded from the restriction. --Captain Occam (talk) 19:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Notes to self - Deletion review discussion - Category:Worst Picture Golden Raspberry Award winners
Requesting undeletion of these five categories (no objection to the others staying deleted):
-- Cirt (talk) 21:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC) List of Russian aviatorsThank you for spreading the listing of the afd on this article. I was completely unaware of the existence of the page you listed. I must confess, this is my first afd in the two plus years I have been active on WP. I don't know what the heck I am doing, and your help is a fine example of the consensual spirit needed to build WP. However, I felt if I did not push for improvement or deletion of this list, someone else might have it deleted willynilly. Georgejdorner (talk) 02:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Theo Botha -- not WP:GNG-compliant yet?Thanks for moving to close the AfD discussion. I think I've established adequate secondary sourcing for this article. Does the template on general notability need to stay up? What more needs to be done? Yakushima (talk) 04:05, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Why deletion of Voluntary Content RatingYou deleted the article Voluntary_Content_Rating based on one vote (which incorrectly stated spam, because spam is only valid when there is no relevant content) and the request as non-notable. The Article was very useful, though, because it lists the only simple alternative to the ICRA labels (Internet_Content_Rating_Association). ICRA labels impose restrictions on the content which are incompatible with free content¹, and PIC is quite complicated, so VCR is the only useful alternative for small website owners. And ICRA is dead… → http://icra.org ¹: http://draketo.de/licht/ich/meine-seite-ist-ab-18#fn:VCR (german) So it was not non-notable and spam was assessed incorrectly (at least for the version I read a few years ago). And there was just one vote to kill an article which had useful content and had been around for at least one and a half years². ²: 1,5 years, because that was when I linked to it on http://draketo.de/schatten Please undo the deletion. The content is very useful to webmasters, especially in germany where we now have to mark all pages.Draketo (talk) 12:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Block of JessdfactsRegarding this block, I'd like to unblock. This editor was in civil email communication with other editors at the time the block was made and continues to communicate with us even after the block. His last mainspace edit inserting external links was at 18:45 today [35], one minute before the first notice he got about external links. He did not re-create User:Jessdfacts/The Library Corporation after it was speedy deleted, even though he had not been blocked at the time. In short, we've got someone who cooperated when he was told he'd done wrong and has been civil with other Wikipedia contributors. My main beef here is that he took the opportunity to comply with various pieces of advice and warnings, but was blocked anyway. The countervailing factor is that he's been casting aspersions that other editors. On that issue, see my message on his user talk page. If you agree to an unblock, I'll monitor him.--Chaser (talk) 22:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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