en User talk:Ciao bill

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November 2021

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Mitchell Wilder, from its old location at User:Ciao bill/sandbox. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 01:30, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mitchell Wilder (December 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Paul W was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This biography is sketchy, skimming across what appears an eminent career, but giving few citations. Notability demands substantial coverage in independent, reliable sources (see WP:RS). The Early life section is mainly an extract from an obituary to his father - likened to the subject's own career (sounds like original research to me). I have toned down the promotional tone, removed the embedded external links, added in some relevant wikilinks, but this needs further work to expand end evidence the subject's career.

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Paul W (talk) 17:25, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ciao bill! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Paul W (talk) 17:25, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I understand the review and am confident that I have sufficient reliable sources in hand to continue work on the entry. Ciao bill (talk) 23:26, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmitted yesterday! Ciao bill (talk) 02:45, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mitchell Wilder (September 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Large portions of the submission are unsourced.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Greenman (talk) 10:09, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mitchell Wilder (October 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Hoary was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Rachel Nellis, Archivist of the Cosmos Club, Washington, D.C. provided the following list of Wilder's honors [...] Provided them to which reliable source? ¶ Also, there seems to be an accretion of trivia. During his three years at Chouinard, Wilder was able to announce: / The accreditation of Chouinard by the Western Association of Colleges / The appointment of an academic dean / The implementation of a novel curriculum / [...] Is any new school worth the name not swiftly accredited? Does any new school not swiftly get an academic dean? "Novel" in what way(s)?

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Hoary (talk) 07:09, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your review, Hoary. Your comments helped me realize the need to clarify several elements: that Chouinard was not a "new" school, that it had been exclusively an art school, not an accredited degree granting college, and that changes anyone unfamiliar with the challenges of achieving or maintaining accreditation might consider "trivia."

Could you point out specific sources Wikipedia guidelines consider not "reliable"? In other museum curator or director entries, I see similar sources, newspapers, books, etc.

Thanks again. Ciao bill (talk) 16:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hoary, could you provide some substantiation for this comment: "Is any new school worth the name not swiftly accredited? Does any new school not swiftly get an academic dean?" The Wikipedia entry on "Higher education accreditation in the United States" does not make it sound like something that happens "swiftly," and my experience supporting the re-accreditation of a top ranked medical school would make the answer to your question "Is any new school worth the name not swiftly accredited?" "No", even for well-established institutions, the accreditation process in time-consuming and fraught with critical reviews. Ciao bill (talk) 17:10, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mitchell Wilder has been accepted

Mitchell Wilder, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 16:11, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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