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User talk:ChildofMidnight/Archive 2
Another songHere's another song: [1]. Badagnani (talk) 03:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC) Snickers SaladThanks for all the info and advice! Very interesting. I love Wikipedia, but have had issues with certain contributors/users. Even if you do everything 'by the book' there's still so much grey area to be argued about! I like that it's basically a democracy with everyone working towards the same goal of having well-written, quality information. I'm always amazed by the variety of information available -- people write articles about the craziest stuff, I love it. Speaking of which... I think I've heard of Snickerdoodle cookies, but I've never heard of Snickerdoodle salad -- sorry, I can't help much there. You should definitely write an article about Seven Layer Salad! I'll write one if you're too busy. Thanks for the "uff da" link -- my family says that all the time. I sent a link to my mom. Shatner1 (talk) 01:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Welcome templatesThanks for the message. I have a couple of templates that I have shamelessly stolen from other editors and customised: User:Ukexpat/welcome1 and User:Ukexpat/welcome2. – ukexpat (talk) 01:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC) Rashid KhalidiHi ChildofMidnight -- you've reverted me twice in the last day or so to replace material to Rashid Khalidi that I had removed with reference to WP:BLP. I have been discussing this on the talk page, but I do not see any comment from you in either case. Please read that policy carefully before doing this, for instance the section here. I am not sure if you are a returning user, as I see you have only been around for about a month, but you should know that editing these bios is one of the most sensitive issues on Wikipedia; as such I would strongly suggest waiting for discussion to resolve itself rather than reverting material back into place that has been removed per this policy. Regards, Mackan79 (talk) 07:53, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
ChildofMidnight, please stop adding versions of this material without participating in discussion. I granted above that you may be a new user, but it is a highly problematic way of approaching a WP:BLP, and if you continue I will ask that you be prohibited from editing this page. Please participate in discussion if you have a view on what should be included, where a number of people are discussing the issue. Regards, Mackan79 (talk) 07:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Scalper?XD really, is this what I have come to? Thanks for calling me a good person though, I appreciate it.
Beware! Scapler (talk) 02:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Don't underestimate the scalping abilities of beavers, they are simply maniacal, case in point: (I don't know if beavers are accused of racism towards Russians too, but something tells me they are, how many Russian beavers have you met?) Scapler (talk) 03:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC) It appears or friend Dimitri has been accused of sockpuppetry. Scapler (talk) 11:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC) Carlo CattarelloHi, I see that you added a notiblity tag to Carlo Cattarello, would being a member of the Order of Canada the "highest civilian honours within the Canadian system of honours" not qualify him to pass WP:BIO? Under additional criteria, any biography "The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been often nominated for them."--kelapstick (talk) 22:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I see that you removed the tag, in a way I want to thank you for putting it up in the first place, it gave me the WikiMotivation to get more information sooner than I would have otherwise.--kelapstick (talk) 03:06, 18 December 2008 (UTC) New instrumentsHi, I hadn't heard of those, thanks. There must be a whole universe in Mesoamerican indigenous instruments that isn't generally known. Did you make those? Yes, I like tabla and Indian music in general, and have some friends who play tabla. Regarding watching pages, I just have a watchlist and don't know of any way of monitoring categories. Badagnani (talk) 00:23, 18 December 2008 (UTC) You can also get dried longans (圓肉; pinyin: yuánròu; literally "round meat") in the Chinese grocery store, which are used to make sweet medicinal Chinese soups. I don't like them much, though. They're kind of brown and shriveled. Loquats, which may grow where you are, are excellent. Also, if you can get your hands on fresh yuzu, please let me know. I think there are a couple of growers in northern California, but I'm not sure about SoCal. Regarding tabla, some modern players use the tuning hammer to do a glissando, making the pitch go up or down. Other than that, no sticks are used as it would damage the head. Badagnani (talk) 00:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC) Regarding my edit count, yes, I was up to 11th most prolific, and am now 14th. I was invited to try to become an admin once or twice, but I declined. At WP there are often two classes: content creators and those who enjoy telling others what to do (often in an arbitrary manner). Many editors, even admins, are quite young, you know (some as young as 12 or so). If they don't get to control people in their real lives, this gives them a place to do that. Others of us are only interested in creating and expanding articles, working with other like-minded editors to get them just right (as we've done) to our hearts' delight. Badagnani (talk) 00:31, 18 December 2008 (UTC) CB is certainly an interesting character. Regarding the length of the sticks, I added a lot of sources. I don't know where you found the 9-inch citation. I found from 4.25 inches up to 14 for a super-huge monstrosity of an edible walking cane. Badagnani (talk) 00:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC) I see--I think that's a grin-inducing blue reference, not an actual candy stick length. If you do an additional search you can get more lyrics to that one, which reinforce this supposition. Badagnani (talk) 00:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC) CategoriesIf you watch a category, the only changes you'll see on your watchlist are changes to the explanatory text about the category, and new upper-level categories added to it. Nothing else. I don't know how to do what you're proposing (I'd never thought of it, but it's a good idea) but maybe some editors with access to bots might know. The main way you can do something like that is to check the new articles at a particular WikiProject like Wikipedia:WikiProject Thailand. If you go to Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:WikiProject_Thailand, you can go to the end and those should be the newest ones tagged with the project template. If you have a bot request, just go to Bot Requests--they're very nice there, especially User:Tinucherian. Badagnani (talk) 00:39, 18 December 2008 (UTC) YuzuThe yuzu is the most strongly scented citrus in the world. The Koreans make yujacha out of it and top chefs use it too. Read the NYTimes article at the Yuzu article. I actually called the old Japanese American gentleman who is interviewed in the article, but he wouldn't mail me any. He said I had to come to the farmers' market in California where he lives. Badagnani (talk) 01:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC) Ha ha, I said citrus--durian isn't citrus. I didn't used to like durian but my Vietnamese music teacher picked out a good one once and it wasn't half bad. Jackfruit is okay but hard to find fresh. Badagnani (talk) 02:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC) Barnstar
The nom feels your succinct opinion requires expansion. Feel up to it? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 07:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC) Seven-layer saladJust put up a Seven-layer salad article. Add, subtract, or change away! Please let me know if there are changes you'd like me to make or things I should have done differently. Shatner1 (talk) 08:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC) Thanks for the good news about the salad; why don't I just take you through step by step how to upload a free photo from Flickr? Badagnani (talk) 19:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC) No problems. I've just fixed it up. haven't deleted anything you've added. Michellecrisp (talk) 06:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
ThankyouThanks for reverting the vandalism on my page : ) --RedKiteUK (talk) 09:15, 19 December 2008 (UTC) Re: SuggestionThank you; I appreciate the suggestion. I see it was removed for me. Of course, that guy really invites a comment like that, but I know, take the high road and what not. - Biruitorul Talk 10:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC) Bad news, Good newsSo, where does this go from here? He has gotten this close to consensus several times. Indeed, he has signed on to a consensus twice, allowed the material to go up on the page, then come back a day or two later and reverted it. Is there no way to stop such a manipulative fellow?Historicist (talk) 03:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Civility cautionPlease cut this out.[6] Do not further disrupt Talk:Rashid Khalidi and attempts to reach consensus there by accusing editors of bad faith, etc. You have asked editors to not "harass" you on your talk page about this. Accordingly this will be my last warning on the subject. Since you have been unresponsive to repeated requests to stop, next time I will take it to WP:AN/I. It would be much easier to simply be civil to other editors. Wikidemon (talk) 22:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC) Removal of AFD commentsYour removal of the comments from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neeraj Gupta was probably not a good idea regardless of how much or little you felt the comment added to the discussion. It would have better to just tag the unsigned message and leave it be. Regards, -- Whpq (talk) 18:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC) The Valley (MTV series)It relisted the old afd because you forgot to add (2nd nomination) to the end. I removed the afd entirely since it fits speedy criterion G3 (blatant misinformation). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 19:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Bill ScottRegarding Bill Scott (author), I have made my case, Medal of the Order of Australia passes WP:BIO, and although the sources that there are for him are not great, I would say that he would pass the notability guidelines (and I am sure that if someone looked there are some very reliable sources out there, it is just doing the legwork). I also cleaned up the references that were in it by adding cite web templates, it was pretty messy. I have no doubt that this will escape the trash bin.--kelapstick (talk) 21:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
One hook that I thought was good was ...that Order of Australia Medal recipient 'Bill Scott began writing poetry while serving in the Royal Australian Navy during World War II? Good luck working on the article!--kelapstick (talk) 23:29, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Go to gal...HAHAHA...Maybe I should have a gender userbox on my page :D!--kelapstick (talk) 23:36, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, you did ask for it Ecoleetage (talk) wishes you peace!
Sub PageI see that you keep your WikiReferences on your main user page when you are using them, ever thing of putting in a sub-page for that? I keep mine here, with my sandbox here.--kelapstick (talk) 22:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
rhmedIt wasn't a template as far as I know, it's a handwritten message with a (!) around it. It's warranted IMHO. Just my opinion, but he didn't exactly deny it- although he is funny:) Warnings do need to be highlighted a bit sometimes I think, so later people can easily see the earlier ones. And I doubt this is Rhmed's first one, in fact the comment above mine is pretty much one. He probably takes them as par for the course.:) At some point, if basic messages from other users haven't worked and you see it again, you have to give someone a proper one. Not that mine even was a template, as I said. I rarely do templates as they're not personalised to the situation. Sticky Parkin 00:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
OMG!random! srry, :-(......;-)MidKnightHunter (talk) 02:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC) Accident MoveI assume if I did this one wrong, I did all the rest as well. I was trying to place my item last or in some order. I would appreciate any help you could provide. As I am 'thick' I would appreciate it if you could explain it again 'slowly' and send it to my Wiki e-mail. I am also reading your post again. Thank you in advance Royalhistorian (talk) 05:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC) Refernce to wikipediaI can't find any mention of not being allowed to use links for reference. In fact if you look up wp: citing wikipedia in the search box you'll find lots of ways to cite wiki. It seems to me a moot point anyhow since the Heidegger article itself cites sources for this.84.203.39.11 (talk) 04:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC) Looked for this section you mentioned and I can only find evidence to the contrary. Could you be more specific and quote the prohibition that you have found? wp: citations lists a whole host of ways in which to cite wikipedia, yet you claim wikipedia should not be cited84.203.39.11 (talk) 12:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Snickers saladI saw on your user page that you were looking for some sources for Snickers salad, and I had to take a look. I found this in the Wall Street Journal and this in the Orange County Register. Hope one day you can make that red link blue! BTW I expanded Carlo Cattarello to be long enough to be a candidate for did you know?, turns out he got his Bachelor of Arts at the age of 80 (an interesting tidbit for the main page I thought).--kelapstick (talk) 05:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
KhalidiHello, CoM. While I agree with you that what is shaping up to be the consensus version is not optimal, it is better than what we have there now (which is nothing) and it does seem to comply with the major concerns of all interested parties on all sides of the I/P debate. The footnotes/references will have the appropriate links that readers may follow for more information about each of the points. Outside of it not being specific enough in the text, is there another issue that concerns you with the "consensus version"? -- Avi (talk) 23:08, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
RMS AndaniaI saw your question on Belhalla's talk page. Normal way to disambiguate is by launch year. Thus "RMS Foo (1899)", "RMS Foo (1927)", "RMS Foo (1966)" etc. If the ship actually carried the number the that is used, thus "RMS Foo", "RMS Foo II", "RMS Foo III" etc, Mjroots (talk) 09:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC) Welcome templates, revisitedSorry I only just spotted your recent question on my talk page. The proper code is: {{subst:User:Ukexpat/welcome1|ChildofMidnight|Welcome UKexpat! I know you're going to be a good contributor.}} - note the lower case w in the subpage name. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 17:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
See Bánh for more info on Vietnamese things like that--I don't know this particular one. Have you searched online yet? Yuzu would only be known to Japanese and Koreans, basically. Badagnani (talk) 23:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC) Did you misspell the thing you asked me about? Is it like this one? Badagnani (talk) 23:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC) Haha, OK, tell me, is it hard or soft? Did it come with condiments? Badagnani (talk) 02:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC) Doesn't Rice paper explain how to prepare them? You have to boil water, then put the water in a large mixing bowl or platter or whatever, then dip the hard rice paper into it and it'll soften. Then you can wrap yummy sweet things in it and eat it. Ask any Vietnamese you come across and they'll tell you their recipe. You must know some there. Badagnani (talk) 02:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC) The manner of preparation should be added to the rice paper article, then. There must be lots of websites about it. I think my Vietnamese music teacher told me how to do it. Lobster candy is extinct, and I don't want to get lead poisoning. Badagnani (talk) 02:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC) I added it to rice paper. I don't know about Esperanto. I just say "s/he." There are tons of Vietnamese where you live; get out there. Many of them operate nail salons and you can always find Vietnamese grocery stores. Badagnani (talk) 02:50, 23 December 2008 (UTC) See [7]. Badagnani (talk) 02:51, 23 December 2008 (UTC) Everyone knows Vietnamese do nail salons in America. Do a YouTube search on Anjelah Johnson Vietnamese Nail Salon and watch that video. Badagnani (talk) 03:14, 23 December 2008 (UTC) The Persian sour berry sauce was probably zereshk (barberry). They usually use basmati rice instead of jasmine rice. Badagnani (talk) 03:14, 23 December 2008 (UTC) I've tried the coconut milk "ice cream" sweetened with agave. It's very good. Badagnani (talk) 03:14, 23 December 2008 (UTC) MicronationsThanks for your help with Westarctica and for the information you sent to my talk page. As you have seen these nominations get really repetitive and I think we need an FAQ on the Micronation WikiProject page (WP:MICRONATION). Over the years there has been this constant opposition to micronation articles, not because they could find any reason to do so in Wikipedia policy, but because they themselves found the idea to be "unusual", "not normal" or the more frequently used "hoax". That is why I thought of an FAQ page along with the convention that we already have (WP:MICROCON). Would you like to join the WikiProject and help me with this? I don't know much about why Gene Poole was blocked, but could you please give me an idea of what is happening? Thanks - Onecanadasquarebishopsgate 14:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC) suphey, hows the Midnight flowing? anyways, this editor has nothing to do. please ruin his userpage. (not really)MidKnightHunter (talk) 01:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC) so what do you think your going to get for christmas? I think i'm going to get a coby 4gb mp3. people should realize coby. they offer a competing product for a much more reasonable price.MidKnightHunter (talk) 03:19, 24 December 2008 (UTC) Seasons GreetingsChildofMidnight, my very best wishes for the festive season Pump up the volume
Merry Christmas!
You too Sticky Parkin 00:07, 25 December 2008 (UTC) Veggie phoEnjoy -- veggie pho can be gotten at Van Hanh on Bolsa in Westminster. I've only been there once. See [8]. Watch out for the "bot ngot" (MSG), though. Badagnani (talk) 00:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC) Merry Christmas A NobodyMy talk is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow! Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaming/MC2008}} to their talk page with a friendly message. --A NobodyMy talk 02:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC) ChristmasMerry Christmas!--WillC 07:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry ChristmasIn case you missed my reply to you at my page. I repeat it here.
Merry Christmas ChildofMidnight ... and of good humour! :D Alastair Haines (talk) 16:30, 25 '2008 (UTC) Merry ChristmasMerry Christmas to you, and have a Happy New Year. You were fine at AfD. mynameinc 15:32, 25 December 2008 (UTC) Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!Thank you very much! All the same to you and even much more :))) You are the only one here who's attitude towards me is very friendly... As for the projects you are invited me to participate: with pleasure if I only can improve them... --Dimitree 22:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC) WikibreakYes, I was taking a wikibreak, for Christmas and family, you know? Anyway, I am sure you managed without my glorious presence. As for Heart of Darkness, I enjoyed the book quite a bit (though I had to read part three twice, that's what I get for speed reading the thing!). It was an excellent classic; it truly revealed "the horror! The horror!" :) of what the Europeans did to the Africans during colonization. I am seriously glad much of the world has gotten past the strangling grip of slavery. Scapler (talk) 00:11, 26 December 2008 (UTC) ThanksThanks friend for contributing on Roja Ramani article. I really appreciate your effort to dig through and add some references. What's painful is the way it has been labeled, even after discussion it was going nowhere. Randhirreddy (talk)
Kishka, againHey, thanks for wading in and maintaining a good attitude. I had been rather frustrated. Splitting off the article wouldn't be my first choice, but perhaps it is the best compromise. Kishka (food) already serves as a sort of main article for kaszanka. But then blood sausage and sausage are the super-articles. Cheers. —Michael Z. 2008-12-10 01:22 z I'm signing this so it gets archived. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:06, 26 December 2008 (UTC) Polka Hall of FameYou are right. Walt Solek is in the IPA Polka Hall of Fame, and there is anothe in Euclid. How close is Cleveland to Euclid? Is there a third Pola Hall of Hame? Pustelnik (talk) 21:39, 26 December 2008 (UTC) Ho Ho Ho!!!MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!--right back at you! and happy hanukkah, and humanlight, and kwanzaa...all of them! Drmies (talk) 23:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
List of Nazi philosophersAre you still trying to cleanup "List of Nazi philosophers"? It is becoming more sprawling. I just deleted the massive "See also" section, and deleted the list of degenerate artists. The author will most likely just revert again. It is a jumble of concepts, encompassing anybody associated with Nazism. The list itself is useless, there is zero context to tell me why I should click a link. I added context to one or two and added years of birth and death. It also uses Wikipedia as it's references for inclusion, another no-no. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC) Hey, I cleaned the article up a bit, fixed the cites, expanded the lead and did some copy editing. Take a look and tell me what you think. Yup, Merry Christmas. On another note, the history of the shop states that the shop came after the cafe had opened for lunch. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 02:34, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: Scappy New YearScappy New Year, ha, I like it! At the moment, I am still trying to find additional references for Yellow Moon (Akeboshi album), but I have expanded it a little further, what do you think? Anyway, I have also discovered the ridiculous amount of songs which have albums yet have no notability outside of the original album recording, so I am trying to alleviate the problem, so far I have:
All songs I enjoy that should not have their own articles, so I guess I am one of the people annoying you with their AfDs! :D Cheers and Happy New Year!
Well, umm, redirecting my entire talk page to Scapling was rather unexpected....... you almost had me crying with laughter! Scapler (talk) 03:13, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I just ran across this question while talkpage stalking ScienceApologist; as SA has passed on the article, I shall comment here. Nothing jumps out at me right now as immediately suspicious regarding the article, but allow me to introduce you to User:Orangemarlin and User:MastCell as friendly reality-based editors who concentrate more on medicine. You might also consider the Doctors' Mess. Then again, I may have entirely misinterpreted your question, in which case just ignore this. Cheers, - Eldereft (cont.) 04:07, 27 December 2008 (UTC) The Coalition CouponThanks for your tweaks and clean-ups on this page. It's good to know someone's reading the stuff I put up. Happy New Year.--Graham Lippiatt (talk) 13:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC) December 2008
You have changed the intro to my article on Prof Cook from a statement by me that he was "a leading authority on Greek painted vases" to a statement that he "specialized (sic) in the study of Greek painted vases." The intro should indicate why the subject is notable and has a claim to inclusion. In my view, being a "leading authority" achieves this as it relates the subject to the rest of the world, whereas a statement about an individual's specialism is just that, a statement about an individual. Being a specialist does not make one notable! Subject to what you may say in reply, I would therefore propose to revert. My version also avoids the problem of how to spell the verb that is cognate to specialism; being English, I abhor the 'z'!! The Sage of Stamford (talk) 10:45, 27 December 2008 (UTC) Happy to compromise on "expertise".The Sage of Stamford (talk) 21:41, 27 December 2008 (UTC) Very happy with your revision to the introduction, which is certainly now an improvement; my only minor quibble would be a stylistic preference to avoid the use of "scholar" and "scholarly" in consecutive sentences - however, a very small point! Your elaborate sentence peppered with American spellings raised both a smile and a chuckle! Do Americans get as irritated when they see the English variant of their familiar US spellings as often happens vice versa? I think it is particularly the 'z' that offends, being so rare in English spelling that it leaps off the page and shouts whenever it appears in substitution for an 's'.The Sage of Stamford (talk) 12:22, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
More on the CouponI don't really want to say too much in the Coalition Coupon article about the War or the impact of the war and the 1918 general election on British politics and the Liberal Party in particular because that would replicate material already in the article about the general election itself (and elsewhere, in the Liberal Party pages or those dealing with LG and Asquith for instance). The original purpose of the coupon article was really just to explain in a bit more detail what the coupon actually was, i.e. just a letter to candidates, what the text was and why it came to be known as a coupon. I think the article has already grown enough from that original idea and there are plenty of links to other pages for people who want to follow up on the issues in the election or Liberal history. Hope you agree. Cheers.--Graham Lippiatt (talk) 23:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC) Why are we smirking?The above message says it all, why the smirk? why? why? Scapler (talk) 00:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
I will help anyway I can, of course Scapler (talk) 00:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Coupon clipperI have added a sentence giving the context of the end of the War and the general 'hang the kaiser' attitude which I hope explains a bit why the coupon was important to the candidates who got it and damaging for those who didn't. Hope this is what you had in mind. --Graham Lippiatt (talk) 01:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC) Re: PhotosThat depends on the photo, now doesn't it? What exactly are you trying to upload, can you link to the original source? Scapler (talk) 01:30, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
After my mention of potato pancakes, I must go eat, so I hope you can fend for yourself, good luck! Scapler (talk) 01:59, 28 December 2008 (UTC) Cartoons= :~) Aymatth2 (talk) 07:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC) ContentYou don't seem to understand the difference between primary, secondary and tertiary source and have restored Herodotus's word which is considered hardly reliable by modern historian. Quoting Herodotus as actual history is not how wikipedia works. As per state department, they are not neutral and you need to use neutral sources.--Nepaheshgar (talk) 08:04, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't think it's a good idea to summarize an article in the lead when the entire article can almost fit on one screen. It would just be a whole lot of repetition since there's not really a way of rewording the information without it sounding odd. I'm afraid I can do little about the fact you don't know Norman Wisdom. Perhaps some nifty hook writing could also include some highlights of his career to show his importance? - Mgm|(talk) 12:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC) FineI'm fine, why do you ask. And you are welcome for my help, I am happy to help anytime I am needed. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 21:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey CoM, Thanks for your note and for thinking of me-though I have to decline, in the kindest of terms of course. I'm working on the death metal list out of some interest I can't even explain and am trying to stick to that (in terms of metal anyway), so it doesn't get out of hand. Besides, I'm really not knowledgeable enough to tackle much beside it; even in the death metal list, I am mainly cleaning up, not adding much in the way of references. Others have much more and better access to sources that allow them to do real work on the articles; I'm just a garbage man. ;) But thanks, and see you later, Drmies (talk) 23:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Award
DYK for Bill Scott (author)
--Dravecky (talk) 05:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC) DYK nom for Leaving SpringfieldHello and thank you for taking a look at Leaving Springfield over at Template talk:Did you know. Separate from the discussion about ALT hooks and such, do you feel you could evaluate the hook and article according to the DYK criteria, and mark it as Welcome templateI stole your welcome template to welcome someone here, so I hope you do not mind my pilfering. Scapler (talk) 16:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC) Nazi Philosophers/ or what ever it is called todayIt seems we have an equal split on what the title should be. Is everyone is open to an uninvolved individual looking through and giving his or her opinion on the subject matter? I’ll live with what every they say. I was thinking DGG? Thanks. ShoesssS Talk 19:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thanksFor leaving the courtesy note on Writegeist's talk page. KillerChihuahua?!? 19:35, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I've re-done the merge to address the concerns of material left out. NoCal100 (talk) 22:22, 29 December 2008 (UTC) WP:CSD issuesThanks for your contribution, as I said on my talk page, I am still trying to make my head round the policies and am now creating an account to follow the procedure. Just wanted to say thanks on here too (still not sure if you are notified if I write anything on my talk page - lol!). Cheers, Anthony 62.103.147.54 (talk) 00:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC) Thanks, happy new year too! (seems like I've created a mini-war on User_talk:RMHED.. Just gonna give up on this one, I'm really confused! Anthony 62.103.147.54 (talk) 00:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC) Thanks for your messages on my IP talk page. I know what you mean. I've now created an account and will take the issue through the Afd process, which is probably the right one. I thought some things were "common sense", but apparently sense is anything but common. Phew, thanks again and Happy New Year! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antiouk (talk • contribs) 01:10, 30 December 2008 (UTC) I've responded to your comment on my talk page, you are more than welcome to add your giant template, lol! Do I have to somehow add it or can you edit my page?? Antiouk (talk) 01:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC) You are right about Manning_Marable! I've responded on my talk page, off to bed now, but will do some more research tomorrow. I figure it's better to research something deeper first rather than assume it's not as important as it seems on first sight. If only people would reference better..... sigh! (we all have our preconceptions, don't we?..) Thanks again! Antiouk (talk) 02:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC) JujyfruitsI begrudgingly agree my edits to the candy page were not sourced, although I wish I had a way to get a good reference. I grew up next door to Andrew Heide and his wife and their son drove that company into the ground. Note that Andrew died the same year his son sold the company. Do you think the details on the Heide company should be moved into the Heide page, which is now just a stub? Gerbera (talk) 00:48, 12 January 2009 (UTC) Sources vs ReferencesIf you look at the Artisan page you will see a Sources section and a Reference section. This seems to be redundant. Can you please explain the correct use of these and suggest a correction. Thanks! --ArtisanTony (talk) 18:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC) Artisan ArticleI hope I am responding correctly, I am a new user. I got your message regarding my edit of the Artisan Page. I am an artisan and a design-build contractor. I was curious about what Wiki had to say about artisans and was surprised to see very little about artisan concepts. I had quoted Louis Nizer’s work in my edit which I thought legitimized my thoughts. I suppose that I did that incorrectly. I do hope that you will making some additions to the page from someone you trust, otherwise Wiki will not even come close to capturing the essence of an artisan. And yes, I would like to have any help with my new page you can offer, Thanks. --ArtisanTony (talk) 02:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC) When the clock strikes midnight... DYK for Burnt Hair Records
Dravecky (talk) 03:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Thank youI recieved your message(s)regarding the Atlantis article, and I am extremely grateful for your suggestions and your help in general. Unfortunatly I am currently not quite as adept as I would like to be concerning the editing of these articles and as per your suggestion would love to request a third party opinion. However I can't locate the talk page for Atlantis article to do so. If you could guide me in the right direction I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks again. JonasAngelis (talk) 23:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC) Thanks!...for your help with the Creepmime merge. It looks great, and I really appreciate you picking up my slack. Drmies (talk) 23:39, 30 December 2008 (UTC) IIYThanks for the note. The Swiss IP address on a couple of posts (guess where this IIY is?) is also indicative and I'm sure more could be dug up on Google, but probably best not to bother with that. WP:COIN is starting to get very touchy about WP:OUTING these days, treating it as harassment (as if these self-promoters aren't harassing the rest of us!) so demonstrating probable association with an organisation is sufficient. Happy New Year likewise. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 05:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC) Crepidotus versutusI don't mean to be rude, but I think that you embarrassed yourself in questioning the DYK hook of Crepidotus versutus by Sasata (talk · contribs), and thereby disrupted the DYK process. If the name of the mushroom is sourced to a reliable academic source, then we would need something much more reliable than your personal conjecture about why it might be named that way to question it. See also WP:NOR. Best regards, Sandstein 07:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
The familyYeah, you're right, I know. I took the author's own words to heart (he actually agreed to edits, though grudgingly, I'm sure), but maybe I shouldn't have, and I'm laying off of it. BTW, if you knew how many times I did NOT hit 'save page' after responses to his comments on AfD. Anyway, I did want to say thanks again for your helpful suggestions on Creepmime; I appreciate your patience. You also said you had work for me to do--were you joking? I don't mind helping out with whatever you're working on, even if it's symphonic metal, haha. I do wish access to metal sources was a bit easier. One of our colleagues has stacks of Kerrang and other magazines laying around, but there simply aren't a lot of notable references on the web. Hey, enjoy the last day of the old year, and all the best in the new! Drmies (talk) 16:07, 31 December 2008 (UTC) Creepmime, for the last time (for now)Dammit Child of Midnight, will you stop finding my errors!!! It's embarrassing! Alright, an extra glass of champagne for you tonight. Drmies (talk) 16:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC) ...before I forget and the Freixenet takes over...
Hey Child, I think I might like some of that Txakoli--you found some fascinating drinks, I have to say. Well, we're in Central here, so I got another four hours to go, but have already had a couple of glasses of Freixenet (and birthday cake--I made a practice cake for my daughter's birthday next week). Oh, it's been fun hanging out with the Mongolian experts; I learned a lot, about epics and a host of other things. That's why I like AfD so much: always something new to learn. I meant to tell you, given that you made a culinary New York reference a while ago: tomorrow, here in the South, it's Black-eyed peas, cornbread, and greens, for good luck, wealth, etc. We'll save you a plate, and I'll let you suck the meat off the ham hock. Take care, and enjoy tonight and tomorrow. Drmies (talk) 01:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Humor warning
College football playersThan how come the user:Iceflow got away with nominating Dez Bryant for speedy deletion, when that article had references and everyting on it. Sorry but I disagree with you and the other user, these articles are definitely eligible for speedy deletion according to Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Notability. --Yankees10 03:10, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Resolutions for the New Year
ScienceApologist (talk) 04:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC) ...eh? Auburn? Doesn't that qualify for a speedy delete? Roll tide! Drmies (talk)
Aubs Eat BoogersSir, I've responded to your baseless accusations on the AfD page for that Auburn rascal, and I even extended a hand (well, a link) of friendship to you, to show you that we, in good Alabama tradition, are above such petty discourse (unless it concerns the War of Northern Aggression, of course). Now, for that tradition, is this what you're thinking of? Probably not notable enough for an article, but it does have Shaun Alexander's TD run against Florida in the SEC Championship, and that magnificent catch by Tyrone Prothro. Both, I can assure you, were incentives for heavy celebratory drinking. And you, sir, get yourself some beers and some BBQ sandwiches (oh, we do bourbon shots at the start of every quarter which we shoot after reciting the magic chant "Ooh goddamn roll tide shit"--we're a classy outfit!) and get ready for the 2009 Sugar Bowl. Drmies (talk) 06:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC) Am I being followed?Are you creepily stalking me, editing every article I create? :) Seriously though, thanks for helping with The Green Bible. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 02:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC) Happy New Year!Happy New Year to you as well! Thank you for the compliment on the interesting nature of my articles too, good luck to you in '09! Scapler (talk) 03:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC) Need Help with article Albert Beckford JonesHi Child of Midnight. I'm Simplynetworked (talk) 03:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC) I posted the article about Albert Beckford Jones as my first wikipedia article. You have flagged the article with an advert tag. If you could please give me some guidance as to what aspects of the article you see as problematic? Some Background. The fellow I'm writing about is working for a Non-profit organization and he wanted me to post some information about his background, education, civic involvement etc. What sections would you cut out or remove? ThanksThanks for the welcome on my talk btw. Simplynetworked (talk) 03:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC) Hey Child, check out the third picture--that's good eats! Drmies (talk) 16:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC) Micronations FAQI started coming up with some basic "Micronations FAQ" questions in my sandbox. Feel free to edit it. After we get enough questions, we could move it to a subpage of the WikiProject. --Micromaster (talk) (contributions) 22:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC) Latvian Mobile TelephoneI made two changes and took the tag off for copy-ed. (Saw it on your Welcome list on the talk page of the creator of Anya Bast. You'll might have to find a replacement now.... Sorry. Peridon (talk) 13:34, 3 January 2009 (UTC) Re:Korean Genghis KhanHi, ChildofMidnight. Maybe I mis-remembered a bit... By coincidence, my wife prepared Genghis Khan for New Year's Eve, and it didn't have the grill up on top, only the circular "moat"-type thing, in which we boiled the meat, with mushrooms and vegetables. After scooping out the food, you dip it in a sauce before eating. Once that's all done, you plop the rice & gim into the remaining water to make the gruel. I mentioned to my wife that I'd remembered that we grilled the meat on top first-- as I described on my talk page, and as it looks like the Japanese version does-- and she said that there are several different ways to prepare "Genghis Khan", and that that is one... So I probably remember that from a restaurant in Korea years ago... Dekkappai (talk) 23:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vereniging Basisinkomen (2nd nomination)Thank you for looking at the Vereniging Basisinkomen article. I have posted a further comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vereniging Basisinkomen (2nd nomination) which may be of interest. -- Eastmain (talk) 01:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Haha, I love the Colts, and that's hard for me, since I was at Alabama when Peyton M. was strutting his stuff. So I'm having a bad week! I don't know where Wilson might go. Brodie Croyle went somewhere, so he might too. He certainly is a tough kid. Ha, I'm sure Andre Smith made a wise move not coming back for his senior year--Tuscaloosa wouldn't be kind to him. Hey, I'm just biding time here--we're about to go into labor. Keep your fingers crossed, Drmies (talk) 02:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Hello luv, hopefully you have had a marvelous Holiday Season :-). As it is a new year, and all things start a fresh, I believe it is now time to address the issue of Intellectuals and Nazism or any given name it may bestoed under Richard's direction. I believe we have a server case of ownership here. The article, or list, has wandered significantly from the orginal concept, and has now become just a hodgepodge of individuals from Martin Luther through Alfred Rosenberg that now needs the approval of Richard to be included, along with his approval of sources. Any suggestions? Once again, Happy New Year. ShoesssS Talk 21:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Citing sourcesSuggestion: When Wikipedia:Citing sources, please follow this convention:
Thus, this:
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Thank you for your time and consideration. - 4.240.78.11 (talk) 03:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Also long strings of hyperlinked text can be hard to read, and authors tend to cut short titles. I'd rather have the link be separate, include all of an article or book's title, and show the online address (which often has little or no connection to the article or book source) as the link that it is. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
RosieHey ChildofM, Rosie came out this morning at 9:20, after a long, long night... She weighs 4 kg and is very healthy--got a great set of lungs, already pays attention to Dutch lullabyes, and nursed cheerfully. Take care, Drmies (talk) 19:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Additions to Black-eyed pea......good man! Bon appetit! Drmies (talk) 19:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC) You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Kapap Reference ListHello, Thanks for coming on board to help with the Kapap article. I started trying to add some 3rd party stuff, but an unregistered user keeps deleting it. I really appreciate the assistance with the clean-up. May I ask why you chose to start a reference section, but left no footnote for it? --KravTeacher (talk) 20:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Kapap ReferencesYou can disregard my question, I overlooked the citation..... however, I would prefer if it read something to the effect of "Kapap History from Israeli Educator" in the notes section. Moshe is an Israeli Martial arts representative to North America, mostly, though I hear he is currently planning tours for New Zealand, Australia and Italy. He trains under Itay Gil from the Human Weapon series and is very knowledgeable. Thank you again for your help, with so many rules and regulations it's hard to decide what applies and what does not. It seems that this scenario meets partial criteria for several flags, but I could not find one which fits 100%. --KravTeacher (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Nick SavoyHi ChildofMidnight, I saw you made some good edits on the Love Systems page that I've been working on. Thanks for that. I've also been working on the "Nick Savoy" page and I was wondering if you could give me some feedback on the page. Anything that might needs to change, let me know! This page has to go through DRV to get it back up. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Coaster7 (talk) 23:53, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Reliability of SourcesTo begin with, the sources in question themselves may or may not be reliable. In all fairness, they seem more promotional than otherwise. My information comes to me via a conversation with a YAMAM instructor who has researched Mr. Nardia's claims. It is not Moshe Katz, but someone he and I know in common. I have questioned him about Mr. Nardia's claims to have trained certain units, which he has been part of. The situation is that Mr. Nardia's YAMAM claims in his advertising and articles are greatly embellished. However, I left them alone and only wished to cite sources/references/whatever to show another side of Kapap as Israeli's, living in Israel, view it. The common view's of Marital Artists in it's country of origin deserve a place of recognition, in the Wiki-article, which conveys current views on the subject at hand. Mr. Katz and I have neither one ever met Mr. Nardia, and frankly he is not a concern to me other than that the unregistered contributor seems content with their citations/references/sources being there, but nothing from anyone else. Mr. Katz has establisehd himself as a authority through 15+ years training in Israeli Martial Arts and other Self Defense/Combat Systems and travelling across North America on semi annual educational tours. Here are a few of his tour itineraries: 1 and 2. The page I have chosen to use as a reference, from his site, is not of a promotional or political nature. It is educational and informative. It gives insight into the views of current Israeli Martial Artists. I have posted on a mediation page, asking for this to be investigated and blocking of the IP address of the unregistered user to be considered. I have not hear anything back yet. I hate to do this, but perhaps you are right, it may be the only solution. Back to the articles, I decided a few days ago to flag the Wiki-article for Conflict of Interest. The article I chose from Mr. Katz' page plainly shows Kapap as an antiquated term and that Lotar doesn't really even refer to an actual system, but rather a way of operating against terrorism. This may bother them as they may feel it makes them look illegitimate. I am not sure of the motive, however, I can see where it may bruise one's ego a bit. I make note in more than one comment on the unregistered contributor's talk page the I respect Mr. Nardia's attempt to revive Kapap as a modern term and modern system, but for things to remain neutral, even a slightly opposing view needs representation. If Mr. Nardia's article(s) remain sources/citations or whatever, it should somehow be explained that the system he teaches in NOT the Kapap taught to Palmach. They learned explosives arming and disarming, shooting, radio commmunications, navigation, survival (wilderness and desert), and a myriad of other things all under the term Kapap. He does not teach all of these things. Others do, Dennis Hanover for example, who chose to call his system Dennis' Hisardut (or Dennis' version of Survival). The only question I have is; if it is true that Mr. Nardia was never operational as a YAMAM "fighter", then all of his articles become questionable by virtue of a showing of lacking integrity, would they not? I hope this explains my view clearly enough. --KravTeacher (talk) 00:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC) RosieHey, I'm all about Rosie the Riveter--great character, and she makes for good writing assignments. For Rosie it's a bit early, but her older sister already has power tools and helps her papa do carpentry (she's almost three). She also has a real kitchen knife (sharper than mine) and, when she was two weeks old she wore a Motorhead onesie. So I got no problem with Rosie the Riveter! We just came back from the hospital; everyone's doing well, and tonight everyone will sleep. Hey, thanks for putting that picture up there--it really livens up the joint! Remember Creepmime? I just got their first album in. It's not bad (for a bunch of Dutchmen), but it ain't great. A final note on football: grrrrr. I love Alabama, spent 8 years there, but I love offense--my favorite soccer team is AFC Ajax, and that's why I root for the Colts also, and for Florida, for instance. Never cared for the Ravens, don't know why. Yes, AfD--did you see I got a note on Nazi ideology? It's an interesting list, but I'm not well versed enough in that matter to really make remarks on content. Later! Haha, yes, I followed you to the Nazi list (from the note above), but I beat you to it at AfD. That Dutch company, that is one awful, awful article, but can easily be rewritten. I just hate writing articles for companies, almost as much as I hate reading PR masquerading as encyclopedic knowledge. Oh, thanks for the Sugarcubes--brings back a lot of memories! Drmies (talk) 03:32, 6 January 2009 (UTC) Edit War?I have tried to leave messages on the Discussion page, from work so I did not log in. The unregistered contributor does not reply. I have also left messages on their talk page to no avail. Is it just me or does it seem as though this person is getting away with murder here. I simply added some relevant information which meets wiki guidlines and now I am accused of edit warring? Where is the neutrality in any of this? I followed your suggestion and did not revert any more and this is how I repayed for following requests? This seems biased to me.... pray tell how else am I to feel when the currently protected version is excluding material which meets requirements as well or better than the material left up? --KravTeacher (talk) 05:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I want thank you and Euryalus for trying to help. While I do believe Moshe is an authroity on the subject, I can see why it might be percieved as less than objective. However, I stand by my original assessment of him. As an Israeli, living in Isreal, and a long time student of martial arts; I think he deserves a place. He is no way connected with Kapap or any of those people and his article has been on the internet for some time. In fact, long before I began trying to use it as an external link. I will read the other reference material you sent me and check it for accuracy. Thank you again. --KravTeacher (talk) 05:42, 7 January 2009 (UTC) I have added a suggestion to the Kapap talk page after reviewing the information you sent me. I discovered there is a LOT of oniline misinformation about Krav and Kapap. So I used two (one you sent and one I found) to attempt to develop consensus. If you get a chance, will you please take a look at my suggestion and the sources I think might work? I'd like to hear your thoughts on putting it together. --KravTeacher (talk) 20:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC) Korean cuisineThe edits you reverted which I removed were not necessary as the text was already sourced from a secondary source, the tertiary web sources are not necessary and do not follow the academic source provided completely, at either rate they would just be redundant.--Chef Tanner (talk) 20:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I just read the articles that were used from BBC, they had little or nothing to do with the lines they were used to cite, they were a stretch if anything. I agree it would be good for multiple sources, just not these sources, and it has nothing to do with the controversy of the articles. I'm going to spend some time looking for some more sources to help out.--Chef Tanner (talk) 05:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC) Seriously, you are really using sources that so stretch the information that you are attempting to source, with an obvious attempt to push a POV that dog meat is controversial which is highly inappropriate. for instance, using an article that talks about sanitation of dog meat stands to source that dog meat consumption dates back to antiquity is utterly absurd.--Chef Tanner (talk) 00:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC) JingisukanHi, before adding that youtube link to the article Jingisukan again, can you please provide evidence that it is not a copyright violation? To do so, you need to show that the original authors (eg. the musician Niiyama Yukihiro who created the song) have given permission for it to be published there. As you certainly know, linking to copyright violations or other illegal content is not permitted on Wikipedia. --Latebird (talk) 23:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Big Al says hi!Keep the faith, brother! Keep on deletin' them Auburn playas! Drmies (talk) 04:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC) Google cacheHello ChildofMidnight. I saw your whitelist request. I think you *don't* want to whitelist the Google cache, you want to request whitelisting of the original link that it is a cache of: www.associatedcontent.com/article/907333/native_american_musician_douglas_spotted.htm. This link probably can't serve as a reference for any matters of fact, since Associated Content is unlikely to be considered a reliable source. The author of the article, Joshua Givens, is an undergraduate, and the article cites no sources except the subject's own personal web site. Sources to justify keeping the article would still need to be found elsewhere. This link still might make the grade as an WP:EL. EdJohnston (talk) 06:27, 7 January 2009 (UTC) Your questionHi, thanks for your interest. The field of Native American music isn't well documented to begin with, and this particular case is interesting because the musician in question seems not to be of Native American heritage. There are dozens of prominent Native American musicians with active recording careers who don't ever state one way or another, on their websites or anywhere else, whether they're actually of Native American heritage or not. By avoiding the issue, they can continue to do well in their careers, keeping their heritage private. This article provides the most comprehensive background and explanation of this. It's centrally important to having a properly comprehensive and encyclopedic article on this individual. Badagnani (talk) 07:07, 7 January 2009 (UTC) Certainly it's just about that source. The article is about a certain individual, basically no details about that individual are available anywhere but that article, thus to have a properly comprehensive and encyclopedic article about the individual, the source is needed. Badagnani (talk) 07:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC) Re Rashid KhalidiThanks for your note; I've left a response on the article talk-page. Regards, EyeSerenetalk 08:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC) Tricky vandalism This is bad. This vandal you also reverted is making false references to his edits. [10]. And is intentionally introduce incorrect information to pages, se here [11] to Chokladboll, almost correct but false. He was blocked, how can he go on editing?
Warrington (talk) 23:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC) Welcome templateThanks for your message about the template. I am glad that you are using it! If it spurs someone, anyone into jumping in and getting involved, that is a good thing! – ukexpat (talk) 01:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC) AfD discussionHi CoM, I was wondering if you care to weigh in on the AfD discussion for Geoffrey Eggleston. I know we have agreed and disagreed on deletion proposals in the past, so I would value your opinion. Rgds, Bongomatic 02:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Peter HillHmm...I'm really not that much of an expert...his list of credits looks pretty impressive (though all these bands are a bit young and British for me, haha) but Google really delivered nothing but that NME Kaiser hit. I didn't yet speak out on AfD, but I think the prospects are bleak. As for the movie, there's a couple of movie buffs who can dig this sort of stuff up easily--MichaelQSchmidt comes to mind, and there's a few that specialize in Eastern movies. I think Erik's question on AfD should be taken seriously, but I don't speak Chinese. Or read it. I even eat it only rarely. Oh, as for the Dutch, don't worry too much. They don't have a basic income yet and are unlikely to get it any time soon. But I'll be glad to put in a word for you--start by memorizing the Sinterklaas article and as many of the Sinterklaas songs as you can! PS Baby came home today--strange, another living being in the house. Drmies (talk) 05:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC) With love from AssamI'm glad that you are interested to know more about Assam. Please be in touch. Feel free to drop a massage regarding that anytime. I'll will try to provide you detailed facts of Assam through wikipedia. (Footage (talk) 06:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)) I'd say for Bush ballad an image of one of the early published collections of bush ballads (usually lyrics only), or the title page thereof would be best. The photo you found is good but would be better at Bush band. Badagnani (talk) 07:16, 8 January 2009 (UTC) Here's the email I sent via Flickr mail. Do you have a Flickr account? It's a good tool to have one, as an active WP contributor.
Badagnani (talk) 07:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC) I don't know if that was meant to be humorous, but to respond to your point, if someone was insisting on deleting something notable and properly sourced from an article (as the photographer who took the bush band photo was not), my tone may have been different. Badagnani (talk) 07:44, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Try to watch the videos I added; Warren Fahey is one of the real historians of this tradition there in Australia. Badagnani (talk) 08:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Bush ballads DYKOut of curiosity.... at what point did it become a 5x expansion? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 10:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Ayn RandA number of warnings are present on Talk:Ayn Rand about unnecessarily personalized messages directed at editors rather than arguments. Consequently, I regret your comments about another editor being ignorant. You could have made the points you wished to make without directing them at the editor as opposed to the argument. Please do not do this again. The amount of trouble and disruption to that page by uncontrolled personal attacks and similar behaviour means that it is necessary to move to qickly stop any such comments being made. I suggest that you strike out your comment and replace it with one which does not make the personalised comments about the editor. Remember, two people have been blocked for making personal attacks and continuing them after the last strong warning about this. I do not want to put you at risk of being the third. Thank you. DDStretch (talk) 19:22, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Party on, dude,...with the Claw Boys Claw. Drmies (talk) 20:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Square milk jugBeing the food-minded individual that you are, I thought that you might be interested in square milk jugs, lots of interesting facts for DYK (a shocking number actually). If you know anything about this subject let me know (or fix it up if you see anything wrong), I will put it in the mainspace soon, but want to get some pictures of them, and the "regular" style too for it before I do. They bottle them here, but I have never seen them, although the grown onions here and you have to beg borrow or steal to get any of them too!--kelapstick (talk) 22:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC) Dubious! WHAT!!! Actually I think there is something in the NYT article that said that the milk was in the cow that morning and in the store that evening...I think the only thing fresher is putting a glass under the udder...But that doesn't sound so appealing...Anyway I am done with it for a little while, so if you have anything to add feel free, and well done on the leading sentence...I had a hell of a time with it, much more gooder.--kelapstick (talk) 23:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC) I think the freshness claim was because they can be packaged faster, and shipped sooner. Unless I missed the section of the article about the magical properties of the square (perhaps a new section?) I haven't seen any benefits of the old shape, other than being more labour intensive so creating more jobs. I will poll 100 dairy cows on my way home tonight to see what their thoughts on the matter are, but I think they will all say tell the farmer to get his hands off my udder--kelapstick (talk) 23:25, 8 January 2009 (UTC) HA! I can appreciate the skepticism, glad I brought you in on this, it is always better to get someone else to check your work and see where the holes are. I have the criticism section, but all I could find was they didn't pour well (pour poorly), and the people who hated them hated them for only that reason, relearning how to pour a milk jug isn't that great a hardship (I will let you know when I try), but it still needs some work.--kelapstick (talk) 23:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC) In Soviet Russia, milk pours you!--kelapstick (talk) 23:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Rand "amateur"Since you have read the source, I suggest you move the word "amateur" out of the article head (it is only one source's opinion) and add it to the philosophical criticism section. Something like, "Anthony Quinn (not to be confused with the movie star and notorious father of many love children) writing in the oxford dictionary of amatuer philosophy says..." Of course you should use appropriate wording. Make sure you move the citation there too. Then I will back you up. The matter is simply absurd. The current citation discusses her status as a philosopher. The matter was debated ad nauseam, and the editor refuses to address the prior consensus in the archives, after I invited him to do so. Welcome to wikipedia. Kjaer (talk) 23:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC) It is Steve Wolfer's and my position that there was no consensus for the radical edits that have been made to the Ayn Rand page since the end of Dec freeze. If you wish to keep fighting each little nibble piecemeal, you can try, but since no consensus was reached, (although they keep asserting it) we believe a rollback to that version is appropriate. Changes with actual consensus can be made from there. If you agree that these radical changes have been made without consensus, please join us by stating your opposition under the request for comment once it is posted. Kjaer (talk) 03:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC) The RFC asks "was there consensus for the deletions since the freeze was removed?" Over one quarter of the article was removed or turned to criticism, but the response to criticism section was removed. Was there a consensus for this? Rand has turned from a philosopher with a system based on reason to a political adviser of alan greenspan's - based on a consensus that is not there. If you want to keep battling alone on the presumption that every little deletion, like Rand not being a philosopher, should be battled separately, when all this has been addressed at length for years - read the archives - then fine. But all I am asking is that you type ' ' ' o p p p o s e ' ' ' under the RFC if you think there was not consensus. Simply add that comment if you agree that the matter is still in dispute. Since you do not see any consensus, no vote, no RFC by those with whom you are mud wrestling now, that should be clear. Kjaer (talk) 03:38, 11 January 2009 (UTC) you smart alec......I should put you on salary: grrr. Drmies (talk) 01:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Bush balladsThe Bushwackers are good but very rock-influenced and don't use the authentic tea-chest bass (they use electric bass and drum set, to be louder and appeal to a wider audience). Regarding bush ballads, it should be made clear that some of the early poets, like Banjo Paterson, didn't sing their poems, but the poems can be either sung or spoken. Also, people like Tex Morton and John Williamson are more country singers, though influenced by bush balladry. There is a lot of overlap. Badagnani (talk) 07:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC) RandReplied on my talk page, though it might be better to copy it to the Rand talk page and continue there. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 08:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC) RE: Who is John Galt?First, Moloch, horrid king, besmeared with blood Of human sacrifice, and parents' tears; Though, for the noise of drums and timbrels loud, Their children's cries unheard that passed through fire To his grim idol. --John Milton, Paradise Lost TallNapoleon (talk) 09:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC) Rand commentHi, If you want to remove my comment from the Rand talk page, go ahead. I'm done. It may not be helpful but it's true. It's a waste of time to try to get an accurate piece, it will only be changed by another Rand hater if you do suceed. Wikipedia is far less perfect than the world and there are better way to spend my time than playing around with people who pretend to be about NPOV when they have a very considered POV. It's laughable. They are fighting over nothing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethan a dawe (talk • contribs) 11:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC) Thanks for pointing this out--I left the user a stern but Tide-friendly warning. Hey, great game last night...at least the SEC won the UNDISPUTED national championship! (right?) Oh, with the help of chemistry I actually slept some last night, and I'm ready to rock. Drmies (talk) 15:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Got milk?I moved square milk jug to the main space, and put up a DYK, I wanted to include the cookies but couldn't get it to work in the 200 character limit, anyway i put you up as co-creator as you did a lot of work for it. Thanks!--kelapstick (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
They only juggle it by the gallon (cuts costs I guess), but we usually get a half gallon. It was 2%, although they have skim and whole, maybe higher fat content would slow the pour? We currently have 50 litres (you want to see stacking efficiency) of rice milk in the garage (in tetra paks) for my son (it is far cheaper in Carson City than it is here).--kelapstick (talk) 22:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC) Just a silly jokeHere is a nice infobox that might ineterest you...
Yes. And your username, of course! ChildofMidnight. Nice. But indeed not all nights are dark, like the nights when the moon is shining, out in the nature or especially on water. You can notice the stars shining too, differently than in the city.
the cat creeps slowly towards her prey: life or death?
a blackbird sings; liquid notes spill into the dawn.
stirs the windchimes; there is laughter in my dreams.
DYKHi, I noticed you replied to what I said at your DYK. It goes from the date of creation not the date of nomination. I think you could still get it in because, as of right now, 1 January is still in the "expiring noms" section. If you moved it down and maybe said that it had originally been at a date further up someone might review it and it might turn out fine. Good luck! --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 03:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC) thanks for the notei tend to veer toward the controversial but try to keep an open mind. don't know about the medication but a bubble bath and some wine/chocolate/smoke/heroin would probably do me some good. ;) this place is addictive. i see your point about rome and am taking more time off between slackjawed surfing episodes. thanks again, and wish me luck. Untwirl (talk) 04:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Pen and QuillIf you'd like me to send you the whole NYT article we were talking about, just so you can verify I'm not being unscrupulous (I know we assume good faith but as the person who opened the AFD it's easy to think I have a little bias!) please let me know and I'll email it to you! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC) I went ahead and added the trail info to the Spruce Woods Provincial Park article... essentially and for all intents and purposes a "pre-emptive" merge. Someone had slapped a speedy on it and it might not have lasted until the end of the AfD. And point of fact, it reallly does belong in the larger article... where it has context and where readers might expect to read information about that trail in that park. I explained as much at the trail AfD with one of the most polite "delete" !votes ever made. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 17:49, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
ExpoliticsCould you remove all the 'Drs', 'PhD's, etc please to conform with our MOS? Thanks. The Michael Salla article actually starts off well but then someone started adding 'Dr' although he should be just Salla in the body of the article, which I've fixed (which makes it consistent now). dougweller (talk) 22:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Merger proposalHi again. I thought you might be interested in this merger proposal in light of our recent discussion. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC) DYK for Bush ballad
Royalbroil 04:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC) SPAsApologies if I'm teaching you to suck eggs, but I noticed your comment on a single-purpose account which cropped up at an AfD here (there appear to be a couple of others in that debate). There's quite a useful template, ({{SPA}}, which can be used in such a situation, where (for example) using {{SPA|Gb}} generates : "— Gb (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. " Hope that helps in the future. GbT/c 09:29, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Exopolitics (Institute)Hi. As you commented on the AFD for the page Exopolitics Institute, you may want to comment on the AFD of the successor article, Exopolitics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Thanks, Sceptre (talk) 17:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC) Be reasonableCould you please stop these constant reversions. We discuss all changes on the talk page, by consensus, thanks Peter Damian (talk) 19:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Please work with the ConsensusBased on the RFc on the Ayn Rand page, there is no consensus to support the edits and deletions made by one faction following the Dec 31 freeze. The vote as to whether there was a consensus for the changes was 9 to 3 against, 7 to 5 if one counts only experienced editors, and adds votes for two editors who commented but did not make an explicit vote. In either case, a minority, no matter how vocal (the talk page has never been so large, and so empty) cannot claim to have established a new consensus. Hence, we shall revert to the actual consensus version of Dec 31, and I respectfully request that all editors accept and defend this long standing consensus version as the starting point for new edits. Reversions to the controversial shortened article should not be supported against the vote of the RFC. I request that those who wish to modify the article state the changes they want on the talk page, and request a vote for the changes they wish to make. I request that editors not simply assert that there is a new consensus for deletions as has been done, since the RFC clearly shows that this is not the case. If you have suggestions for improving the article (I support trimming down all sections which have their own separate wikipedia article, such as Objectivist movement) please discuss them, conscisely now, but let us not revert to an edit war. Kjaer (talk) 01:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC) I am sorry, CoM, this is the exact same message that I put on everyone's talk page, the wording was chosen to be neutral, and I commend you on your good work on Ayn rand, with which I am in full agreement. Please do read specifically what I said, and try to help keep the version on the Ayn Rand page the actual consensus one per the RFCKjaer (talk) 01:51, 12 January 2009 (UTC) RfMA request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Ayn Rand, and indicate whether you agree or disagree to mediation. If you are unfamiliar with mediation on Wikipedia, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. Please note there is a seven-day time limit on all parties responding to the request with their agreement or disagreement to mediation. Thanks, SlimVirgin talk|contribs 02:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC) Congratulations!You've been gored by a bull for your impudence!
inre Christopher RojasWP:MUSICBIO has a long list of attributes... and if ANY ONE OF THEM applies, then the artist is accepted as notable. Even if he does not have major write-ups in the press, if one goes down the list of attributes it would seem he meets 2 or 3 of the neccessary criteria. He does pass WP:N per the applicable guideline. Or am I crazy here? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 07:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Please take a look here and advise on this work-in-progress: User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox Christopher Rojas Thanks, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 00:48, 13 January 2009 (UTC) Ayn Rand CollaborationIn the spirit of mediation, I think we should try to bury the hatchet and work together. The reason that most current edits appear "anti-Rand" is that the article used to be unreasonably pro-Rand. This is not my "agenda", as Steve likes to call it, but the fact that the article was stripped of its good article status because the criticism section was deficient and the article as a whole inflated Rand's reputation (the reviewers' words not mine, we appealled the decision without success). A number of us have been editing this article for some time (JReadings, TallNapoleon, and myself) and we are willing to make compromises, but because the article before the changes was considered too "Rand-friendly" to become a good article, some improvements towards good article status will likely not be Rand-friendly. You seem like a reasonable person (you haven't engaged in the AGF rhetoric that Kjaer, Steve, and some "anti-Rand" folks prefer) so I just wanted to explain myself a bit in an attempt to keep the dispute from escalating so that the mediation can hopefully resolve matters. Idag (talk) 15:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC) Hey, it's 1:20 here already--bow 'bout we meet for lunch? I think I want an Ozzy. Drmies (talk) 19:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
useful?Thanks--but just as I had read up and was going to take the case I found that the plaintiff had already removed it... Drmies (talk) 23:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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If you have questions about this bot, please contact the Mediation Committee directly. Ayn RandThe mediation request has been rejected because of you, even though 10 others had agreed already. [12] Was that your intention? SlimVirgin talk|contribs 00:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Request for ArbitrationA request for arbitration has been filed with the Arbitration Committee that lists you as a party. The Arbitration Committee requires that all parties listed in an arbitration must be notified of the aribtration. You can review the request at [[13]]. If you are unfamiliar with arbitration on Wikipedia, please refer to Wikipedia:Arbitration. Idag (talk) 01:11, 13 January 2009 (UTC) Ayn RandThe explanation is that Rand is no doubt well-known and influential in the US, and Quinton is not. But this doesn't make Rand a philosopher, though no doubt she did write on philosophical themes, and devised what one might call a philosophy. Being influential, and writing on philosophical themes, and having/inventing a philosophy, and being a philosopher, are four different things. I could name quite a few philosophers who have had little influence and who don't even have articles in Wikipedia. In philosophical terminology, writing on philosophical themes and having a philosophy are necessary but not sufficient for being a philosopher, and being influential is neither necessary nor sufficient. Ben Finn (talk) 17:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC) Thanks for the message. Nothing wrong with political philosophy, it's a perfectly respectable branch of the subject. And for all I know, Rand might be a philosopher, but if she is not generally regarded as such by existing professional (which in practice means academic) philosophers, then I don't think she is. Arguably if even just one or two philosophers do say she is a philosopher, and none say she isn't, then she is; so you may be right. But it is the professional philosophers who are in a position to know (and we are not qualified to contradict them) who is a philosopher and who isn't. I don't take much store by newspapers calling her a philosopher - they use the word very loosely. And I don't take much store by her not getting discussed by most philosophers - philosophers just wouldn't discuss a non-philosopher's work - why would they? - this doesn't count as 'ignoring'. But if it is the case that some discuss her work and call her a philosopher (even if a bad one) then that probably does make her a philosopher. There may of course be contradictory sources saying she isn't a philosopher. Personally I think 'amateur philosopher' may be accurate (though admittedly with negative overtones), or I am quite happy with e.g. saying she developed a 'philosophical system', which seems quite accurate. C.f. (in a turgid analogy) if A claims to be a structural engineer and BCDEFG ordinary folk say A is a structural engineer, but the structural engineers say A is not a structural engineer but a charlatan who's got no qualifications and whose buildings would fall down if you built them, then A is not a structural engineer (it's not just that A is a bad structural engineer - I think you'd at least need the qualifications for that) - though you could accurately say she designed buildings. For only the structural engineers are qualified to know what structural engineers do, e.g. how to ensure buildings won't fall down, and hence who is doing structural engineering and who isn't. It's just possible the structural engineers are wrong, and may later hail A a great undiscovered self-taught structural engineer, but until that time comes, the non-structural engineers (and Wikipedias) don't have sufficient grounds for claiming otherwise. Ben Finn (talk) 18:26, 13 January 2009 (UTC) Re the student of engineering who wrote about it and then engineered a series of built structures - 'student' to me means someone who at least is working towards professional qualifications! And there's also the issue of whether the structures fall down or not. I think the analogy you'd like to make is the one you make elsewhere, of painting - anyone can call themselves a painter as long as they do enough of it, regardless of their training/qualifications or indeed quality of the results. But I don't think the analogy holds: philosophy is an academic subject with professional qualifications. Granted, in ancient Greece it wasn't, so if you developed a philosophical system and were influential with it then you'd count as a philosopher. But this is no longer the case. Philosophy is much closer to the sciences than the arts - perhaps on a par with economics in that respect. I think one could only call oneself an 'economist' these days if one were employed by a financial institution with 'economist' in your job title, or if you were an academic involved in teaching or researching economics. No doubt there are people who write about economics, e.g. for newspapers, but who are not economists (you might call them economics journalists or writers on economics). If they developed their own economic theories, then they would be an anomaly, but unless and until recognised by economists as an economist (which would probably entail being influential on at least some economists) I don't think you could call them that. Anyway, I'm sure I've got my point of view across by now. Ben Finn (talk) 18:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC) Ancient Greek philosophers would be (and of course are) recognised now as philosophers - not because of their academic credentials, but because they are regarded as philosophers by those who have the necessary academic credentials. You asked what the professional qualifications for being a philosopher/economist are - I say simply, having at least (say) a PhD in philosphy/economics! (And to actually be a professional philosopher/economist as well as having the qualifications to be one, you'd then need to be being paid to be one.) Anyways, I'm leaving Ayn Rand, as I am no expert on the subject (indeed know nothing about her) and hence have made no edits to the article itself. I left a message on the talk page summarizing what I thought the whole problem with the article was, which is the same as the problem with much of Wikipedia (not enough experts + too many idiots = poor quality results) - but it seems criticism of the Wikistate is so unwelcome that it's been deleted from the talk page! Hey-ho. Ben Finn (talk) 19:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Square milk jug advocacy comityWith regard to this edit, I would say I am more of an advocate of utilization than a pioneer in utilization. And to correct your comment on the DYK page, I was able to pour the square milk jug without spilling while simultaneously juggling kittens....on a unicycle.--kelapstick (talk) 21:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
A couple of questions(from your post on my talk page) I am curious to know what your opinion is of the introduction as written. I would also like to know what your view is on mediation and whether you plan to participate, why or why not. Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:32, 13 January 2009 (UTC) Sure. Mediate what? After the RfC the Rand tolerant faction was extremely moderate. Look at the edits that followed it. You will see simple reversions and all on the part of the Rand critical faction. TallNapoleon broke the 3RR rule. The critical faction (an that is a generous name) had issued over 100 edits in the hours after the freeze was lifted. Not one single one of their edits was based on mediation or consensus. Every single edit either deleted relevant verifiable information or was purposefully couched to make Rand look bad. Now, after their unilateral edit war, after the RfC showed there was no consensus for their radical revision of an article, now they want mediation? We don't need mediation, we need adhernce to wikipedia principles - no deletion of sourced material, no pushing of a POV which is what several editors have explicitly said is their goal, no deletion of valid material, but rather expansion into a new sub article if there is too much info. (Note that I fought pro-Rand forces to remove her embarrassing remarks on homosexuality, fought ARI supporters who want Rand to look blameless in her split with Nathaniel Branden, have never tried to delete references to opinions that she was cultish - since these opinions do indeed exist.) The call for mediation, besides being unnecessary, and an attempt at an end run around the RfC, is improper in that it includes admittedly hostile editors who have already said that they themselves are not qualified to edit the article, includes new editors who have been recruited since the RfC who had not edited the article, but who are apparently "qualified" in the view of one faction befcause they are Rand-hostile, and excludes Jmaurone and DAgwyn who are Rand sympathetic editors who have edited the article recently and who participated in the RfC. As for the current lead as written, I oppose commenting on it specifically, because to do so would presumes its legitimacy. It was imposed without consensus by a POV faction who simply ignored wikipedia policy, removed cited data, and used their own opinion of Rand as the criterion by which to judge the relevance of any comments. Suffice it to say that it is both heavily biased and factually flawed and is not acceptible in any case. I will be busy with personal matters for the next week, and may go for some periods without editting or contributing. Feel free to contact me by email. Kjaer (talk) 22:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
It is DAGwyn and Jmaurone. Kjaer (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC) NicknamesHello there ChildofMidnight. I thought I'd come here rather than carry on the thread on my talk page because I want to clarify an important point. When you called me Ry Ry, I presumed you were mistaking me for a user who used to be User:RyRy, before being renamed to User:RyanCross. We get mistaken quite a lot and I was only trying to tell you that I wasn't RyRy. I've just read what I wrote to you again and it appeared that I was being abrasive. That certainly wasn't my intention, I was just short of time so I apologise for that. I don't mind nicknames at all - I've grown up being called "Poss" by everyone including teachers at school and lecturers at university so you're more than happy to call me whatever you like (as long as it's not something like "Idiot Ryan" ;-) ). I hope that explains things and I'm sorry if you thought I was being off with you - that wasn't my intention. Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 23:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC) You're fast becoming my favorite inclusionistI think you just knocked User:DGG from his previous post as such. Yeah, you get to be a cabal member. The pin can only be seen remotely, though. ScienceApologist (talk) 23:40, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
A RoomWill a courtroom suffice? I don't even known what the joke is here, But I had to try something? :)
String quartetsThere are a lot of non-notable rock bands, and also a lot of non-notable string quartets. A young quartet that doesn't have CDs out, for example, should wait until they do to write an article about themselves. I don't see that this quartet (who are probably in their early 20s) have put in their dues to be able to get an article about themselves. Badagnani (talk) 07:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC) I've recorded soundtracks for many independent films yet don't presume that I deserve a WP bio page. Badagnani (talk) 08:02, 14 January 2009 (UTC) Tex-MexI agree with the premise for your movie, the titles of a number of "cuisine" articles has bothered me for some time. Tex-mex is a style of food and drink, not a cuisine itself. I'd actually prefer the term "Tex-Mex food and drink" but I am happy for the term "cuisine" at least to be removed from the article. There are a number of other articles with the same issue, like "Cuisine of New York', we do not have a "cuisine", we have ingredients and restaurants, those alone do not make a cuisine, a specific culture needs to be created with a universal culinary practice throughout a region along with a number of other sociological elements. Anyways, if anyone argues with you on this element, I will certainly back you up.--Chef Tanner (talk) 13:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC) Thank you for your note, as I had not yet learned the results of the AfD and it came as a pleasent surprise. I am gratified that it was a "no consensus default to keep", but I will work toward addressing concerns that led to "no consensus", as certainly there are ways to more strongly underscore his quailifications under WP:MUSICBIO. Again, thank you very much. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
You might want to take a look at Wikipedia_talk:Flagged_revisions/Trial#Straw_poll_on_implementation. Badagnani (talk) 21:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC) Anarchism a 'free for all'I'm somewhat perplexed somebody at the article for anarchism would perpetuate this misconception. Please read the article. Zazaban (talk) 02:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
St JoanI did the redirect for the school. though it is in Queens, the relevant diocese is Brooklyn. Some of the earlier version were vandalism to the extent that nonsense wasn't an absurd thing to call them. DGG (talk) 03:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC) Flagged / bush bandHaha, did you find my bush band? You can always add links to audio and video (I do). Regarding the flagged revisions, I'm personally against it, as a newly created corps of "surveyors" will be needed to approve each new edit before it appears to the world. That's what Citizendium calls "constables." These "surveyors" may not know anything about the subject in question, or drag their feet in approving a queue of edits by editors lower on the rungs. That's why I support our current mode, where editors such as us watch pages we care about and are knowledgeable about, and do that same job, reversing questionable edits and vandalism quickly. The reason they're trying to do this (and have done at de:WP) is that they're embarrassed by vandalism that shows up briefly, and they don't even want it to appear to the public even briefly, hence holding new edits until "surveyors" can either approve them or throw them out. This is likely due to WP's reputation and (probably more likely) its market share, which is tied to its reliability. I don't believe it's a good trade-off. And, by the way, they want you to think it's over your head and not give your opinions. The comment pages have been moved several times and discussion posts asking for wider community input removed more than once, in an effort to discourage wide community knowledge or understanding of this crucially important proposal. Badagnani (talk) 03:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC) ...take a youtube break......whenever you get tired of Ayn. Here's the boys for you, playing an old Iggy tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX6n8YX3UZI. Later! Drmies (talk) 05:03, 15 January 2009 (UTC) In memoriamhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX-pVhTZg0U
Thanks!Hey, There...I really appreciate the advice on getting an article going. ;-) Take Care! Anthonylpeterson (talk) 06:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC) ThanksOf course you can be a great help of mine. It'll always be my pleasure. You too take care. (Footage (talk) 15:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)) ...its been a pleasure having you as my friend and my tutor at the same time in the other side of this keyboard. Stay Cool and Nice always. Thankz a lot!!! Happy New Year too my friend. Jjskarate (talk) 08:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC) Thank you for the kind messageThank you for the kind message. I am greatly appreciative of your friendship. Ecoleetage (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 Ecoleetage (talk) wishes you peace! Power to the Faroe IslandsWell, I had another few looks at Knút Háberg Eysturstein, and decided that (with a little bit of work) it is worth keeping. You see, us anarchists from the Old World stick together, haha. Take it easy brother! Drmies (talk) 05:33, 16 January 2009 (UTC) MediationWould you mind picking a position on the mediation thing? I'm not trying to be catty, but I just spent the last hour making an ArbCom request, so I'd rather not scrap all that work if we're not going to mediation. Essentially, the way mediation works is that an uninvolved editor helps us iron out a compromise. Since Kjaer and Steve's big concern is that other editors are pushing some type of anti-Rand agenda, a neutral editor will help solve that problem. However, everyone has to agree to the mediation or its rejected. I have to step away from my computer for a time, but if you do agree to mediation, would you mind scrapping my arbitration request and notifying folks of the change? (I've already notified everyone involved of the arbitration request) Idag (talk) 01:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Request for third opinionPlease, would you mind, as a menber of the Food and drink WikiProject and a food minded person taking a look at this article: Apfelstrudel and give a third opinion on it? We did not agreed about a thing or two (ingredients, preparation) about this pastry with an other editor, like this edit which is not a reference at all, and looked like this: (ref name="butter">In this recipe good olive, or other oil may be substituted for butter, according to taste</ref, (even if he-she added it like a reference). But now things are getting out of control. The other editor is upset and is taking things personally, and is making his-hers best to find as many faults as he/she possibly can.
The only thing I can do is to add some more international references like this: Real Homemade Strudel Doughand give up...
I do not want to be called a Strudelfascist any more (mark, that I never made any personal attacs on him), and the person decleared that he does not want to have any more contact with me. An other weird thing about this is that while he was having this conflict with me my computer was hacked extensively, and also crashed several times. All this strangely stoped imediately after I left a message about this on the page. It is hard if not impossible to prove anything about this, but this is what happened, and I do not feel either going on discussing things with him any more.
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