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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Most or all the edits I’ve seen from you are junk. You’re spamming non-free images, WP:OR, junk edits, breaking rules, and goading other users. Stop editing until you read policy and have the slightest idea what an encyclopedia and a public project are. This one, particularly. Users can be blocked for this. — Smuckola(talk)12:28, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello there. I know it can take some time to learn the ins and outs of Wikipedia...but it really is alarming how many warnings you have related to images on your talk page. Continuing this trajectory will likely end up with your account getting blocked from editing, so I recommend slowing down and doing some more learning on things.
There's WP:IUP for image help. You seem to make a lot of edits related to video games and movies too, so it may be good to familiarize yourself with things like MOS:VG and MOS:FILM too. But please do something to change. People like myself are getting tired of telling you the basics, like "Only one box art per article" that I see yet another editor has warned you about. Sergecross73msg me17:17, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, just making sure you saw this, because the edits you just made are exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about here. You uploaded new versions of images for Super Mario articles that already had perfectly acceptable images, and then changed them to a non-standard size. Unnecessary and actually making it worse. Final warning on this. Sergecross73msg me20:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Sergecross73 and Primefac: Did you see the stack of final warnings about edit warring? I missed those in the ocean of violations. Can you please complete the full indef? He thinks this is a smack talking copyright-proof fan site. Almost all edit history has been reverted and the rest is junk about junk subjects. WP:NOTHERE — Smuckola(talk)21:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at the image they uploaded for SM3DW (Super Mario 3D World) and that is completely unacceptable. You should not be uploading higher quality version of non-free images. They are a lower quality for a reason. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654520:05, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've now reverted their upload of the SM3DW + Bowser's Fury box art and requested rev del of the older versions of both files. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654520:13, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree he needs to cite his sources...but I just looked it up on Apple Music and it appears he's not wrong. He needs to start using sources immediately...but it seems harsh to indef him over this when sourcing wasn't really what I gave him his final warning for. I won't oppose Primefac if they think otherwise though. But to me, feels like final warning time for yet another thing. ChallengeCick, you need to learn WP:V and WP:REFB if you have any hope to keep editing on Wikipedia. Sergecross73msg me21:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a little bit busy today, but I'll definitely check it out. I understand if you want to stop me from uploading files, but not forever. Plus, this is the first time it's happened to me, so at least bite in to give me another chance. You said it yourself that it seems a bit harsh for an indef block. Plus, I always cite my sources. Sometimes they may not be legitimate, but they're still sources where there could be proof. Anyways, just consider it. ChallengeCick (talk) 03:36, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Citing your sources doesn't meant writing "I saw it on Spotify" in an edit summary. Please read WP:REFB for what it means. It's no rush if you're busy, but it is very important that you read and understand it before adding any further content to Wikipedia. If you keep going around doing it wrong while ignoring these comments, then you're going to find yourself in the same place you currently find yourself with file uploads. Sergecross73msg me03:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
February 2022
You have been blockedindefinitely from editing certain namespaces (File) for continuing to upload invalid and non-free images larger than allowed.
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).
I was unaware of how to upload non-free files to wikipedia. I didn't know the correct way used for image compression. I didn't know any of that stuff. But I'm doing my research on how to get it right. As for editing, I may have editing disruptively in. some articles. Mario Kart 8 is a good example of this. I promise to change all of this if unblocked. If there is another reasoning for my blocking. Please let me know on my talk page
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You completely ignored my last chance warnings above, and continued to do the same things that got you the warnings in the first place. You're honestly lucky to only be blocked from images. I was one step away from blocking you from all editing. Sergecross73msg me20:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I concur. IT shows that you didn't read your talk page until you were partially blocked since WP:IUP details on what you do with non-free images, and uploading higher quality versions is the exact opposite of what you should do (Unless that's the first version of the file). For example, with File:Brilliant Diamond Pokémon Battle.jpg which I uploaded, it started out with a high quality version (the base quality of the Nintendo Switch), and a bot tagged it to be reduced in size, which that happened and the previous revision was tagged for rev del. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654521:04, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Although interestingly I just noticed that while the image size/resolution was reduced, somehow the file size was increased which I don't understand how that works. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654521:05, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hold. On. There. Fella. I get blocking me again for that but I was just too nervous about the Sonic 2 poster looking good on the inbox which I still don't understand why. No joke I thought about it yesterday and I knew this was gonna happen. But now, we have our final poster, and this parade is officially over. I will keep that poster in my downloads folder for as long as I have this computer. You can unblock me from image uploading, and we'll all be at peace. I dunno about you but to me, that sounds like peace calling from miles away. ChallengeCick (talk) 05:21, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your reason to unblock amounts to "I was going to keep messing with this copyrighted image until it was exactly what I wanted." How do we know you won't do this again with another game, movie, or whatnot where the box art isn't up to your standards? --ThomasO1989 (talk) 19:13, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
p.s. "i knew better, knew it would be undone in all futility, but I refused to not do it, and again refused to undo it later, to prevent being inevitably blocked" — Smuckola(talk)21:04, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's an easy answer my friend. I don't know how you guys actually reduce the size of a non-free image. Instead of having a bot do it for me, for once I'd like to know how do I do it myself. Maybe then I wouldn't just say "oh well I don't know how they actually reduce the size of their files, so might as well just upload this high quality version instead."ChallengeCick (talk) 05:11, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Freakin
Please stop italicising the "Freakin" bit of Seth's name. Not only is it not in our MOS but WWE don't even officially do it. What appears in the lower card is an aesthetic flair which we don't include for the same reasons we don't change every instance of reDRagon to red the way AEW do in their card. — Czello08:35, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Alright then. But besides WWE's website, they always do the italicising for the "freakin" part like whenever they have a graphic of Seth's name on Raw. So that's why I always did it that way. However, that doesn't change there fact that I want them to stop using and just call him Seth Rollins again. ChallengeCick (talk) 08:44, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Beatles (album)
Both "self-titled" and "eponymous" are redundant, which is bad writing style. Anyone who can read can see that it is self-titled. Two editors have now reverted you. Per WP:BRD, please do not revert again without consensus. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 23:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If it's a bad editing style, then why not remove from all the self-titled albums out there, otherwise even though the white album is it's nickname, it's original name is The Beatles. Which is the same name as the band. Coincidence? ChallengeCick (talk) 15:31, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Music studios and artists can name their albums any way they wish. They don't have to follow anyone's guidelines about good or bad writing style. They can name an album "Da Beedles" if they wish. That's none of Wikipedia's business, nor ours as editors, and Wikipedia has no control over what studios or artists do. We don't tell them what to do; we just report what they do. Wikipedia's stylistic guidelines are independent of studios and artists. With any encyclopedia that has professional editorial oversight, such as Britannica, your edit never would have gotten through in the first place because it's such poor writing. None of this is a general criticism of your contributions to Wikipedia. But none of us is perfect, and a general rule on Wikipedia is that if we don't want our edits challenged and corrected, we shouldn't edit. The bottom line here: Don't use "self-titled" or "eponymous" for any album in which both artist and album are named in the sentence, unless you get consensus on the article's talk page. There are some situation in which "eponymous" or "self-titled" is appropriate. For example, in an article about a band rather than a specific album a sentence later in the article might be: "Less than a year before their breakup, the group released an eponymous album, their only double album." In that sentence the album itself is not named but denoted by the word "eponymous". That's acceptable. Again, read WP:BRD. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 16:44, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Regarding this edit, what makes you think that anything like "But the album was supposed to be listened, as an album. And it is." and "Woahness" is appropriate for an encyclopedia? As ValarianB said in his revert summary, Wikipedia isn't your personal blog. Assuming you're not a troll and given all your edits to this article were reverted, it's best to stay away from that article. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 17:30, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In your time here, virtually every edit you've made is undone. I know it takes time to learn the website, but a lot if your edits are simply bad judgment calls. There's absolutely no reason to think that adding personal commentary like "Whoaness" was appropriate to add to an article. And your refusal to stop making so many bad image contributions has gotten you blocked from the entire area of editing.
Are you going to take this seriously or not? Because I'm about one step away from blocking your account from all editing. You need to get a clue and get it together. Either decide to take this seriously or stop editing. Sergecross73msg me17:50, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wow do I have a lot to go over what you said. All right let's do this.
"virtually every edit you've made is undone." are you trying to say that every edit has been edited? if that's the case well that can go for everybody including you. Pages change. They always get edited. Every wikipedia page has been edited. In terms of the Woahness comment, I won't argue with you there. That was totally wrong of me.
"And your refusal to stop making so many bad image contributions has gotten you blocked from the entire area of editing." I sent you and Primefac tons of messages about how that situation is fixed and you still don't believe me.
"Are you going to take this seriously or not? Because I'm about one step away from blocking your account from all editing. You need to get a clue and get it together. Either decide to take this seriously or stop editing." I'm actually taking this seriously if you didn't notice. And why are you gonna block me from editing completely? Is it because I'm not editing everyday, or I'm not making massive changes often, or I'm making new articles rarely? What are you trying to say to me here?
In conclusion, you basically are one step away from blocking me due to rare wrong edits and not "taking it seriously". You need to give me some proper clarification because after everything I went though, I'm not sure how to feel right about now. ChallengeCick (talk) 14:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't just mean that your every edit is just altered, I'm saying most are immediately and completely undone. And I, and others, have asked you specific questions already, that you have failed to acknowledge. How do you reconcile your supposed stance of "taking things seriously" by writing things like "Whoaness" in an encyclopedia? That's not even a real word. How is that taking things seriously? I want to know thr thought process behind that edit. Sergecross73msg me17:02, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't why the hell you guys are going crazy for the Woahness edit but it is what it is. I basically heard that word along with some other stuff in a really well made Pink Floyd retrospective which obviously The Dark Side of the Moon and it's legacy and they included the word Woahness. So there, and as far as my edits being undone immediately, I remember how long my edits last and I can confidently, about 20% of all my edits have been undone immediately after. So there's my thought process on those things. Also, your example on me still disrupting image edits is irrelevant I'm sorry. ChallengeCick (talk) 17:30, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's not just that your edits are mostly undone, it's that you frequently engage in edit wars over your contested edits and fail to engage other users on the article's talk page. You've done it on Mario Kart 8, WrestleMania articles, The Dark Side of the Moon, Beatles articles... You don't think to ever just drop it. This, along with your comment "the disrupting images bit is irrelevant" just screams "I didn't hear that". Either learn to listen to other editors or stop editing. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 17:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's a rather poor approximation of how many of your edits have been undone. All you have to do is look at your list of contributions and see how many are tagged as "reverted". That means someone undid your entire edit. It says "reverted" a lot, and many times when it doesn't, it's because you were talking on a talk page rather than editing an article.
I'm going to be honest with you - if you can't even begin to understand what these probables are, it probably means you're not ready to be writing an encyclopedia. I'm going to give you a last chance, but I highly recommend you take this chance to spending time reading help pages and policies. If you just go off and start tweaking image sizes or add weird personal commentary on articles, you'll be blocked. Sergecross73msg me18:29, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking about it, the best thing you can do, ChallengeCick, is that if you do make an edit and someone reverts you, do not revert it back, even if you think you are right. If you really want that edit in, then engage with the user that did it and discuss it with them and learn why they did it. But, if you ignore this advice and engage in any new edit war, then I'd say that settles it and you're not ready for Wikipedia. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 21:28, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Since when did you see me getting to an edit war besides the Mario Kart 8 situation? And I have engaged, many times before. Don't tell me I don't know what I'm doing cause I definitely know. ChallengeCick (talk) 05:10, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For example, here, you changed images to a non-standard size twice, without edit summary or explanation, despite being told not to. I asked you about it yesterday and you still haven't responded. That's not engaging in discussion properly. It's that sort of thing you need to change. Sergecross73msg me11:49, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bro I legit told you that the Woahness comment was wrong of me didn't you see it? As for reading policies and stuff, I don't need to read them as I'm not doing something wrong every single time I edit on wikipedia. If my edit gets reverted on wikipedia, most of the time it's because the main editors of the page aren't too accepting of my improvements on the page. Is there something I missed? ChallengeCick (talk) 18:34, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh right. About Kickstart My Heart (my god what a banging song) and the image situation. It just didn't look right to me. It looked out of proportion and it still kinda does so I thought it was my job to align everything perfectly and it got reverted immediately. Thanks. ChallengeCick (talk) 19:30, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but that's the thing I'm talking about. You need to engage in discussion with those people and explain your actions with them. That's the sort of "engaging in discussion" you need to be participating in. Not just repeatedly reverting without explanation. Especially since you were in the wrong here. Infobox images are a set size that shouldn't be altered. This particular issue is done with, but you need to be doing that in future disputes. Sergecross73msg me20:57, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In response to your "when did you see me getting to an edit war besides the Mario Kart 8 situation" I literally gave you a list of articles above you edit warred in: You've done it on Mario Kart 8, WrestleMania articles, The Dark Side of the Moon, Beatles articles... are you simply not reading our responses? --ThomasO1989 (talk) 17:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am reading bro. But are you seeing me doing that today I stopped with all those articles because good reason was given. You're lucky you're even getting this response from me as I'm currently revising for the biggest test of my life tomorrow! ChallengeCick (talk) 13:02, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're responses are awful, and instill no confidence that you understand the problems here. No one is "lucky" to have read them - you're lucky you're not blocked. I'm not responding further, as these discussions are going nowhere. Any more violations or disruptive edits and your account is blocked. Sergecross73msg me13:47, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In two separate unrelated cases, you have, without any explanation or reason given, taken a list of items in alphabetical order, and re-ordered them into an indiscernible order. Why? What are you doing? Sergecross73msg me14:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Stop using subjective measures like that - it just leads to disputes over people's personal opinions. Use objective measures, like alphabetical or chronological order. Sergecross73msg me12:47, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
These edits finally pushes things over the line. I can't believe that, despite all these warnings and blocks, that you'd still managed to repeatedly make such a bad edit in relation to images yet again. In reviewing your recent edits, it's clear that the only thing that had changed was that I temporarily stopped watching over your edits. Far too many of your edits are undone immediately due to being unnecessary or ill-conceived. There's no way around it - you are not ready to be editing Wikipedia. You are blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia. Sergecross73msg me18:00, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Look dude, if that's not how you put your templates together, fine. That doesn't mean you have to underestimate all the good stuff I've done in my time here. ChallengeCick (talk) 10:15, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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In terms of the Magical Mystery Tour edit I did, I understand, that was a terrible edit and incredibly stupid on my part. There have been 2 or 3 other beetles album articles that show alternate covers and they were never displayed this way. So I let my stupidity, blindness and cockiness get in my way and I'll never do it again. And as far as the permanent block from uploading files, I think it's time to lift it as I think this was more than enough time for see to learn the rules about file uploading and what is and isn't permitted. I hope my reasons make sense and please keep in mind that all these promises will into affect immediately after the blocked is lifted.
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I just indefinitely blocked you from all editing, the final straw being very bad edits related to altering image sizes, and you have the nerve to suggest that it's time to lift your image uploading block now? Seriously? That makes zero sense. A big part of your block is your continued bad judgement when it comes to images. It was upgraded to a full website block because the image block wasn't enough to stop you from making bad edits. This is showing a stunning lack of understanding of the issues here. Sergecross73msg me20:20, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
When you were first unblocked for the unnecessary image uploads, you claimed that you didn't understand the rules, despite the multitude of warnings telling you to stop. When you were unblocked, you immediately went back to your old behavior and then received a full upload block. Despite the warnings that followed, you continued to mess with images and engaged in edit wars. You only listen when you realize your actions have consequences. I made the following suggestion in the Final Warning section above: "if you do make an edit and someone reverts you, do not revert it back, even if you think you are right. If you really want that edit in, then engage with the user that did it and discuss it with them and learn why they did it. But, if you ignore this advice and engage in any new edit war, then I'd say that settles it and you're not ready for Wikipedia." And you did ignore it. Your behavior only distracts other users who have to clean up your mess and feel like they talk to a wall because you refuse to listen and learn how Wikipedia operates. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 21:25, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. So I just read everything you both had to say. Some stuff I agree with and stuff I don't. So to ThomasO1989 and Sergecross73, I highly recommend reading through the whole thing, because holy cow, I have a lot to talk about. So I guess I should probably address why the whole file uploading situation. You were right, I didn't understand the rules and I did known them once I got unblocked, I was just careless out of my mind trying to find this Sonic Movie 2 poster but since I couldn't find it, I figured I might as well upload this one in high quality but ran into several issues with that. So that got me a permanent uploading block. Now for the editing block. Of course in that big argument between me, Sergecross and a few other admins, they were threatening to block me due to me not making any edits that weren't reverted, of course being pushed to the edge by my "Woahness" edit on Dark Side of the Moon. As far as Thomas's argument goes about discussing with another user and learning from them. I did that. With you guys! But then we come to Magical Mystery Tour and my terrible inbox edit and my extreme ignorance on how it's not ugly cannot be forgiven. And now we're here. Please tell me if I missed anything but for the most part, I think I signified all of my mistakes and said everything I needed to say to prove to you all that I am going to change. I was on my way to doing that. I was actually starting to make some actually good contributions on articles such as Abbey Road Studios. And then my extreme ignorance came back with the Magical Mystery Tour and now not a day goes by where I don't regret making that edit and reverting it again. So please, I ask for one more chance to make it all right. I will not let any of you down. I promise. ChallengeCick (talk) 14:58, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You have only acknowledged the bad edits that Serge and I have explicitly brought up. Since the final warning from Serge, you received two explicit warnings from Tkbrett for your edits at Please Please Me and The Beatles and you edit warred at Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. That's all I'm going to say. We're not going to keep listing off every offense you've made, have you apologize for that specific offense and then act like everything's ok now. Competence is required. You're simply not ready to be editing Wikipedia. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 15:52, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh come on your telling me I'm not ready. Why are you trying to make this personal? I acknowledged my good and bad edits. But the good doesn't matter to you. You only wanna focus on the bad. Dude, if you actually paid, I did what you said to do. Which is discussing with another user and learning from them. I wasn't aware about why only Parlophone was mentioned and not both Parlophone and Capitol. But after I knew that, I added that in Rubber Soul. Stop making this personal and start seeing what I'm truly capable of if you give me one more chance. ChallengeCick (talk) 18:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I see no evidence of you actually learning anything. I've been warning you about bad edits since last February, and it appears other warnings trace back to as far back as last October. We've been discussing these things with you for far too long. The only evidence of change in your editing patterns is when blocks literally prevent you from doing it anymore. Which is about the strongest evidence for a good block there is. Sergecross73msg me17:04, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
When it comes down to it, you've only been warning about 2 things:
1. Unnesccary file uploading
2. Reverted edits
Both issues I've tried to solve, but you and several other admins didn't allow me. You'd rather just not care and have me blocked seeing as I only started editing in October 2021. Of course, rookies always lose against the veterans, now matter how hard they try. ChallengeCick (talk) 18:44, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh please. You have repeatedly violated rules and made incredibly bad judgement calls. You conceded as much in your own (rejected) unblock request. There's no one to blame but you here. I mean, seriously, how many times have editors told you to stop altering image sizes? You literally never stopped doing this - you did it until your very last article edit before I blocked you. This is what happens when you don't take warnings seriously. Sergecross73msg me19:34, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Listen bro. You need to remember something: We all make mistakes! And that obviously includes me. You're right I did concede my own mistakes because and unblock requests to show you that I' slowly changing and becoming more aware. I'm not blaming anyone here. You were justifying to make me aware of my problems and I ignored and several other admins. I'm just saying, please (and I can't stress this enough), please give me one last chance. If I manage to show you that I can be a decent editor who is learning and is self-aware of the mistakes he made and is improving his skills on Wikipedia, then all the arguments, the trials, the problems. Everything would have been worth it. I'm not asking for the world here, but please. Let me continue my new found love: Editing on Wikipedia. ChallengeCick (talk) 21:24, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll look at that but if you're not gonna block me after admitting everything and promising the world and beyond for you, then who will be? Because it's clear you're desperately trying to keep me from editing ever again! I don't know if you just don't like me or you're just annoyed I can't live up to your standards or something. Hey buddy, I'm not the student and you're not the mentor. This isn't 2010 NXT here. You just need to trust me! ChallengeCick (talk) 21:32, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking 3 months instead of 6 cause weather you want to admit it or not, I've made 2 major mistakes since October (heck even you admitted them yourself). Both I've tried resolve but to no eval. So yeah, I don't get why I have to wait 6 months for my mistakes seeing as those don't cost 6 months of blockage. ChallengeCick (talk) 16:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You don't get to negotiate the terms of the standard offer. The cockiness you demonstrate by insisting you've only "made 2 major mistakes since October" despite most of your talk page covered in warnings is only digging you a deeper hole. If you really think you're in the right, prove it by opening another WP:UNBLOCK request and showing that an admin other than Serge will agree with you. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:32, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well even if I do think I'm largely in the right, every time I'm gonna make another appeal, either Serge is gonna respond with a incredibly obvious response, or another admin is gonna agree with Serge cause he's been an admin for a long time, or something else I just can't wrap my mind around. So I genuinely don't know. All I know is, I'm asking to be unblocked and once I do, you'll see the growth on full display. One of you just have to make the first move before everything can go into effect. ChallengeCick (talk) 23:01, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Then you're wasting your time. Serge obviously isn't going to unblock you, and I'm not an admin. Either attempt a new WP:UNBLOCK request or wait six months to do the standard offer. If neither of those work, then you're out of luck. ThomasO1989 (talk) 00:13, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Serge is just an unforgivable kind of guy. If all your edits don't go perfectly or even worse, if you make a mistake, then expect an indefinite block. I hate that. And I wish this mindset can be changed because it's extremely unfair. ChallengeCick (talk) 10:34, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What's horrific or disrespectful about it? It's a standard boiler plate UTRS response. Your talk page isn't revoked, so UTRS is not the place to appeal. -- ferret (talk) 18:56, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Have you seen the message itself? I place my appeal, and a few minutes later, friedokra responds with THAT message. If you've seen it, then you know what I'm talking about. ChallengeCicktalk22:57, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Uh, of course I read it. It's extremely polite with a full explanation on the proper way to make an unblock request. You're going to be hard pressed to get any admin to take your appeal seriously if you're making such baseless accusations as this. -- ferret (talk) 01:30, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm talking about the first message. The second one was ok. But no one is willing to give me a second chance because they don't believe in second chances. My first chance resulted in 2 blocks. And ow, my second chance will result in no blocks. Trust me. ChallengeCicktalk12:53, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(Non-administrator comment) As someone who has your talk page on my watchlist from a prior conversation, and has been loosely following the unblock requests, can I offer a bit of advice? This isn't going anywhere -- you should take the WP:STANDARDOFFER. The standard offer really is the best way to demonstrate to admins that you're ready to continue editing Wikipedia. — Czello13:02, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But standard offer is 6 months though and I'm ready to continue and change my ways NOW. Plus, it's unlikely after 6 months with users like Serge or Thomas who I've had a novel's length of arguments, that they'll unblock me after waiting for half a year. ChallengeCicktalk13:49, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But you're not going to convince them to unblock you now, either. In fact, the longer you do the less likely it's going to happen. The standard offer is the only way to demonstrate that (and I think if you keep pushing it, even that will get taken off the table). — Czello15:05, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But I don't understand why that's the only option when it's only 2 mistakes and I'm constantly promising a change. Deepfriedokra said that I need to show that I'm ready to edit before I get unblocked. Now let me ask how am I supposed to show that when I'm virtually being held on strings? ChallengeCicktalk22:47, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As usual, you ignore everything Serge and I told you. You say "only 2 mistakes", but you repeated those same "mistakes" over and over, was warned about it over and over, and only stopped making those "mistakes" only after you were blocked. The fact you won't admit that it wasn't two individual occurrences but a long-term pattern is part of why no one is believing your empty promises. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 22:58, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok so it looks like until now you didn't realize what I was talking about. Dude, I am fully aware that I repeated those 2 mistakes over and over again, but they're still 2 mistakes, and I know that this was a long-term thing. In both of my unblocks, I have shown that I am fully aware of all that and asking for one more chance to make it all right. So yeah I'm not ignoring anyone. I'm just bad at wording things most of the time ChallengeCicktalk23:03, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you repeat the same grave mistake over and over at say, a job, they don't say you made only one mistake. They fire you for incompetence. Same principle here. It's the way it works in the real world, "dude." --ThomasO1989 (talk) 23:08, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I completely understand what you're trying to say, but I want to be aware of something. In life, there is always a second chance. It's called tomorrow. A new day. A new mindset. A new drive. And when you find, you gotta take advantage of it and go out with a bang. And that's exactly what I've been preaching this whole time. I just want to see it and realize that there's a second chance around all of us. Including me. ChallengeCicktalk00:07, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your "second chance" (perhaps even the fourth or fifth) was when Serge gave you the final warning back in May. And you blew it with the edits to Magical Mystery Tour, so now you must face the consequences. Check back in six months. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 00:28, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I hate to get personal here, but edits that I made when I wasn't doing well (both physically and mentally), decide my block? Plus, if you look back at that final warning conversation, it wasn't just about edits for stuff like dark side of the moon and Mario Kart 8. It was mainly about my reverted edits. First chance, blew it. Second chance, blew it. Third chance, gonna make it right. Also, with many contents like that, I think I need to make an archive of it. The problem is I'm blocked and I can't edit so someone has to do it for me. ChallengeCicktalk05:48, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok fine. You won the argument and I'll take the 6 month break. But please note this, when I come back in December/Janurary, I'll be keeping my word on literally everything I promised. With that said, I'm out. Sadly. ChallengeCicktalk21:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DFO only left a single message. Are you talking about "Action: set status as DECLINE"? That's an automatic system message simply from the request's status being changed. DFO didn't type that, it's just a system log message. -- ferret (talk) 14:56, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Look, It took me a few days to realize but now I can understand that there have been many factors that have led to my block. My reverted edits, the unnecessary and wrong type of file uploading, how I've handled images in articles. But of course, everyone can change and that includes me. My apologies if I came off as a little bit cocky in the talk page. It just depends on my mood that day. Well today (and hopefully onwards), I can proudly say that I'm willing to learn from my mistakes and make my edits right. There's just one thing that needs to be done first ;) ChallengeCick (talk) 11:05, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Why? I'm being serious about all my claims. Can't you give someone a chance to grow? Also, I need help making an archive for my talk page. Cause I need tomato at least one from all those conversations and alerts. ChallengeCicktalk21:57, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've already explained it to you - You've never stopped any of your disruptive editing until a block literally stopped you from doing it. So no one is convinced of your unblock requests. I won't be responding further. Follow WP:STANDARDOFFER and don't WP:BLOCKEVADE or that account will be blocked too. Sergecross73msg me23:23, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Listen brother, I know we had an agreement to the WP:STANDARDOFFER, but I've come across some articles that need some input from my part. So yeah, I keep saying one last chance, and you said that I was given chances and I blew it with the Magical Mystery Tour edits. But I promise, dumb edits won't ever happen again. ChallengeCicktalk11:29, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
SMDH, you didn't even last a week. Several points:
As I already told you, I'm not an admin. It's simply not up to me to unblock you. You have to be unblocked by an admin, and at least three have stated they will not, in spite of your promises. So, it's futile to think anyone will.
As I and several others have noted, constantly begging for another chance is digging you a deeper hole. It shows that you still can't accept the outcome of something you don't agree with, and that attitude would only lead to more edit-warring if one decided to unblock you. Best thing you can do is stop asking for additional chances.
Believe me brother, I was trying to stay away from it until December, but every time I was going about with my day, it just kept coming up to point where I couldn't hold it much longer. I know you're not an admin, but you've kinda been the moderator of this "debate". And since every admin on here has a problem with me even if some of them have nothing to do with me, I just don't know what am I supposed to feel right about now. So I guess I'll leave the articles that needed my input and leave with this: When I come back in 6 months, I expect someone to unblock me by taking the standard offer as promised, because after all, everyone deserves a second chance.
When I was looking through some articles and went back to my talk page and read your decline, I realized something so shocking. You didn't have any role in getting me blocked. So if you come across this message, don't go all savage and delete my usage of the talk page. Rather, explain why you declined the request so I can understand what was happening behind my back throughout that "debate". ChallengeCicktalk16:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You've gotten three rejected unblock requests and you've been told repeatedly that asking for things more lenient than the standard offer won't work, and now you're badgering people about it. Talk page access revoked - you've exhausted the community's patience, and you have no real need for it any time soon anyways. You need to take time away from Wikipedia, you aren't ready right now. Feel free to ask for an unblock through UTRS after 6 months, but I highly recommend taking a different approach than you have for the last few months when the time comes, because none of this was remotely persuasive. Sergecross73msg me19:50, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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