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DC routes

I re-instituted the edit you undid because there are no known sources that show these routes existed and you did not provide any.

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Re: WikiBirthday/Mantua

Thanks. I have been to Mantua station. The caboose is new I believe. Mitch32(Fame is a four letter word.) 22:45, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

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Script errors

It would be great if you could fix the script errors in Ishinomaki Station, Mangokuura Station, Onagawa Station, Rikuzen-Inai Station, Sawada Station, Urashuku Station. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 17:36, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

@Frietjes: No prob. Cards84664 (talk) 17:53, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

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Botanic Garden

  • The station you called Botanic Garden
    The station you called Botanic Garden
  • The real Botanic Garden station
    The real Botanic Garden station

A thousand of pardons, what do you mean? The Botanic Garden station has a ceiling, the station in the photo is clearly not it. Vcohen (talk) 13:36, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Whoops, fixed it. Cards84664 (talk) 13:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hey

Hey rather than undoing all my hard work to make the mess of a Tower City article something understandable and clear, why not take it to talk? We're both very experienced editors, so starting edit wars isn't great. I'm a little upset. ɱ (talk) 14:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I'll note you didn't interfere with my heavy rewrite of Grand Central and Cincinnati Union Terminals, which got them both to GA, way better, clearer, and more balanced than they had been for a decade. ɱ (talk) 14:12, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Um, besides keeping the routemaps from being orphaned (they're big so I collapsed them), and expanding the former services (which I personally didn't see an issue with since there are no current ones), I didn't change anything else you contributed to Tower City Center. As for Tower City station, I was ensuring that the article history was all kept in one place, so if you want to request a move to Tower City station (GCRTA), go right ahead. However, I don't see any need for a disambiguator, there's nothing else notable with the article name of "Tower City station".
I'd also appreciate if you dropped the battleground mentality, I agree that the edits to GCT and Cincinnati improve the articles greatly. My edits were minimal there simply because I don't know as much about those cities. Cards84664 18:45, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: Notice I copyedited to Tower City station to keep the article history in one place, not Tower City Center. Cards84664 19:11, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Hm I'll take a closer look when I'm home. As of when I wrote this, it appeared like there were a few flat-out reverts; let me recheck myself... ɱ (talk) 22:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah that's weird. My bad, sorry. I do want to bring up that I don't understand the benefit of "Diagrams of former Cleveland area railroad stations", isn't it a duplicate of the infobox, just with more (unnecessary) detail of other stations on the line? As well, I'm not sure as to where the former rapid transit stations should fit in here. Were they both predecessors of the current station (so should they go into Tower City station#History, or were they somewhere else, making them more applicably a separate section in the main article/deserving of their own infoboxes? I do think the right place for info on CUT as an intercity station is in the Tower City Center article, as the building was built for it. As a side note, I am considering merging Terminal Tower into the main article, as it's mainly history/architecture... ɱ (talk) 00:27, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: I wanted to implement those diagrams as a pilot for listing surrounding stations' articles (Mentor, Berea, cvsr, etc). I would be interested in moving/merging the diagrams if someone ever makes more station lists for former railroads. However, I'm too tied up with Chicago commuter services and rail stations in Japan (both involving lots of Adjacent stations).
Basically, there were many stairwells for the railroads, one/a few for the CTS and a few for the Shaker trains, all on the concourse. The CTS/Red station was completely replaced by Tower City station, while the wall was moved north in the Shaker station to accommodate for the 1990 platforms.
Note that the Shaker station (at least, a portion of it) is still extant, note the matching doors and railings in the photos. I'd argue that at least the Shaker infobox has notability, since it reopened for service (temporarily) in 2016.Cards84664 00:58, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

I think a list of all stations on a line of the Erie Railroad is most appropriate on the Erie Railroad article, or a sub-article on its lines or stations. Here the stations beyond direct neighbors and termini are not relevant (and those aspects are already covered in Adjacent Stations). It also has a lot of symbols, italics, and different colors with no legend... And the phrase "All stations are ERIE unless noted otherwise:" doesn't make sense to me. Also, if the CTS/Red station and Shaker station are both originally at the same site as the modern Tower City station, even if extensively reworked, I think I want to move all of that info into the Tower City station article, mostly into History, Layout, and Former services sections. ɱ (talk) 02:46, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: I suppose I can put those lists in a sandbox for now (the Erie thing is to differentiate between Conrail-served and the other Erie stations. Just to note, Tower City and Shaker stations were open at the same time, each with trains in one direction. They had to reopen a stairwell to the Shaker platform, and installed a temporary fare booth. Cards84664 03:14, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Okay, interesting. I'll see what I can do. By the way, I guess I never realized (at least from your photos and user page) you seem to be a Cleveland resident? I just spent a few days there exploring (I live in Columbus right now). Would have tried to say hi, but I plan to be back. Lots of photos to upload from the trip in the meantime... ɱ (talk) 01:59, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, Cleveland area. Cards84664 03:27, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

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Hello! I am hoping to renominate the MAX Red Line article for FAC this week. My previous attempt failed due to a lack of comments. Could I ask for your input in the nomination? I would greatly appreciate it. --Truflip99 (talk) 18:45, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Re:47th Erie

Yeah, the Erie canned service on 9/29/1935. A lot of stations got hacked of passenger service on that day. Mitch32(sail away with me to another world.) 19:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mitchazenia: I suppose I could use post-1935 timetables and replace all other instances of the modules with Module:Adjacent stations/Chicago and Western Indiana Railway, with notes on former services. (GT's suburban might be an exception but I'll have to do more research on that). I've also emailed C&O and B&O's historical societies to ask for more timetable scans. Cards84664 19:56, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Remember that the CWI was basically a paper railroad, being owned by at least six other railroads. Mitch32(sail away with me to another world.) 20:32, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
@Mitchazenia: Where did it say that Erie served 55th? If it's an employee timetable I wouldn't include it. Cards84664 23:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I know for a fact they considered 51st Street a station of theirs, I swear I remember 55 also being one.Mitch32(sail away with me to another world.) 23:22, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

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Railway station infoboxes

Just so you know: Your recent edits to the B.C. station articles have included an extra }} that is prematurely ending the infobox (example). SounderBruce 01:31, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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Adjacent stations issue

Can you take a look at Union Station (Los Angeles) for the former services? For whatever reason the Union Pacific line seems to be breaking the template, even though it is working fine on other pages (example: Central Station (Los Angeles)). Thanks, —GFOLEY FOUR!— 17:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Gfoley4: I found the error, but that's a Southern Pacific station. Union Pacific only had through-express trains there. Cards84664 00:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
How so? I assume home rails ended somewhere else and they used SP trackage rights? Still I would maintain that it's a fine inclusion, stuff everywhere is shown via trackage rights, and it's not like it's a large distance they operated on SP. And it was a major route obviously, with the City of Los Angeles. —GFOLEY FOUR!— 00:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
The same is true for named trains to Chicago, we don't show Union Pacific east of Omaha for that reason. Everything from Sacramento to LA, LA to Tucumcari and New Orleans is all Southern Pacific, (the old Union Pacific maps acknowledge this as well). It's because of the many overlaps that we all agreed to never acknowledge named trains, with the exception being Amtrak. (Also, However, I'm ok with using "Golden State Route" and "Sunset Route" since SP used those to refer to local stations. Cards84664 00:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
If you're referring to the trackage rights of the Wabash and Erie in Chicago, that's only because they had joint ownership of the tracks entirely. Cards84664 00:40, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm referring to the Los Angeles route via Las Vegas. Los Angeles and Salt Lake Railroad I wasn't exactly sure how this was routed in the LA region, but seems like it used Cajon Pass trackage rights, which also would seem to follow the joint ownership considering they built one track as well. I'm not exactly sure how it got from San Bernardino to LA but seems like different trackage than the Santa Fe.
I think this situation is definitely different than the Omaha-Chicago section, these are all listed in the guidebook with (C&NW Railway), while there is no designation given here.
The most notable example I've seen of trackage routes being included is B&O from Philadelphia to Jersey City. See Central Railroad of New Jersey Terminal. FWIW, when I made the B&O s-line templates this was not how I oriented it. —GFOLEY FOUR!— 01:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Moot, I forgot about UP's Vegas route completely. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'll restore it now. Cards84664 01:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
@Gfoley4: I fixed the error, sorry that my brain was on autopilot. Cards84664 01:21, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Ah, cool, no problem. —GFOLEY FOUR!— 01:53, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Re: Parnell

I was going to ask why I should know about this, but I see now. Note, you don't need to use the date closed thing when the station closed in 1949 and the two closed well after (92 and 94). Mitch32(sail away with me to another world.) 17:25, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Alright, I'll go through the 'L' articles and find the rest that are like that. Cards84664 17:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, this applies to stations that either are still active or closed later and had former stops after it. Mitch32(sail away with me to another world.) 17:32, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Template:NBA season-by-season team history

Hi Cards84664 - I agree that this template was unreadable, but it certainly wasn't that way when I made those changes back in 2016. I think the underlying default colours must have changed recently: I'm looking into it. Colonies Chris (talk) 10:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it was caused by a change to the underlying colour data. Now fixed. Colonies Chris (talk) 16:04, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry

I apologize for my North Station messup. I was catching most of those North and South exceptions in reviewing the JWB replaces, but somehow missed that one. I find it hard to program that tool more precisely. Thanks for catching and fixing. Dicklyon (talk) 06:16, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

No prob. Cards84664 15:52, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Lake Street ‘L’ succession templates

I just wanted to point out something in relation to the Lake Street/Green Line station templates. Currently the terminals are either Forest Park and The Loop/Market or Harlem and 63rd stations. Lake street was actually more nuanced.

Once the line was completed to Forest Park, the terminal pairings were as follows:

  • Forest Park & Loop/Market
  • Forest Park & Loop
  • Harlem & Loop
  • Harlem & 95th
  • Harlem & Ashland/University
  • Harlem & Ashland/Cottage Grove

I came across a page today (I don’t remember which and I’m too lazy/tired to hunt for it now) where (I believe) the terminals were Forest Park & Loop/Market when they should have been Harlem and the Loop. Currently there is (as far as I can tell) no provision for this in the CTA module. Lost on  Belmont  3200N1000W  (talk) 03:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

@Lost on Belmont: Oak Park station (CTA Green Line), because Marion was next towards Forest Park, not Harlem. (I've also bluelinked Forest Park/Lake) Cards84664 14:33, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Aldershot-Suspension Bridge

In Special:Diff/971664049, you removed "Aldershot-Suspension Bridge", but Grimsby station still used that under "Former services" in the infobox. Can you take a look and see whether it should be put back, or if that article should be changed to use it under a different name? Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:10, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Jackmcbarn: Whoops, just forgot to replace that one, I've got it now. Cards84664 00:54, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

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Use of Twinkle revert

Hi Cards - I was wondering if you could explain why you used Twinkle revert here without providing an edit summary. It seems like the IP's edit was made in good faith, and judging from Google Maps, I believe they were correct in assessing that train as departing, not arriving Sheridan station. Best, Conifer (talk) 22:03, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@Conifer: Oh, I didn't see the lower red lights on the front/back of the train, I was assuming that the Flickr post was right because of the caption matching the filename, I'll self-revert then. Cards84664 05:58, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
No worries. I'll ask to have the file renamed. Conifer (talk) 18:01, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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Brisbane Ferry templates

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Boggabilla

In this location there is mention of an adjacent station to Wearne for which there is no reference in Australia in Wikipedia - I had to get rid of a link to an overseas location. Hence there is now no link to Wearne in the Following Station. But I dont seem to be able create such a situation in Adjacent stations where it always seems to want to create a link, finishing up with a red link. Is there anyway the link can be suppressed in Adjacent stations? There are other places with the same situation.Fleet Lists (talk) 07:00, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Oops - wrong locality above has been fixed.Fleet Lists (talk) 11:54, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

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Where is the discussion

Hi - where is the discussion behind emptying Category:Former Amtrak stations in Ohio? Are you similarly planning to do the same to the other 35 categories? ɱ (talk) 22:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ɱ: I was a bit confused on the category hierarchy, but now I've got the parent categories sorted out: Category:Former Amtrak stations in the United States now belongs to Category:Former Amtrak stations, and the latter now belongs to Category:Former railway stations in the United States by company. Cards84664 23:02, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
(I added all missing entries to Category:Former railway stations in Ohio) Cards84664 23:06, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: Also also, if you have any additional info on Akron's Amshack, I think that should be split into its own article. Cards84664 23:17, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

CTA station racism

Thanks for letting me know about the full scope of that. I blocked the IP addresses involved and revision deleted their edits; let me know if I missed anything. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 19:41, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

@TheCatalyst31: Please extend the block and expand the block range per this edit. Cards84664 17:14, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
I blocked that user and semi-protected Cumberland (CTA station), since almost all of the edits have targeted that article. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 02:15, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Re: GTW

Full admission, my GTW knowledge is near zero. I have photographed all of 4 non Amtrak/VIA stations for the GTW. Not much to offer unless you have newspapers you need access to. Mitch32(sail away with me to another world.) 04:52, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

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A big day today

Today is a big day as the last Sydney/New South Wales station/location was converted to Adjacent Stations this morning while Brisbane/Queensland was finished last week. In Melbourne/Victoria I have just converted the last 5 stations which are planned ones. However the color page also covers trams which have not even been looked at, at this stage so I suspect we will be deleting all the Melbourne/Victorian templates except the color one in the next few weeks. Template:Victoria closed style which is a redirect, has 293 links to it. They are all closed station articles such as Warburton railway station using closed lines. Is it worth adding entries to the Australian closed station module for such lines and then convert them all to Adjacent stations or should I just change the color pointer to Australian closed stations instead of the normal Victorian color template and move the existing code to the Infobox which I think looks much better than having them sit by themselves at the bottom of the articled, as I have done for White City railway station which is a closed station on an existing line. I think adding entries for the closed lines is overkill. Cheers Fleet Lists (talk) 00:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

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