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Buistr 08:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)==Foreign Legion== Nice addition with the uniforms, but a moved it from History to a own section Carl Logan 10:42, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More nice additions to the uniform section. but I am a bit worried its taking over the article. One more thing: Should there not be a special sub-section of the uníform section for the white kepi or kepi blanc. Carl Logan 19:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes perhaps I was piling on the detail too much. Will stop, at least until the article has grown around the uniform section. Thanks for creating this as a separate item.

Re a separate sub section for the kepi blanc. The difficulty here is that this particular icon of the Legion has been around since at least the Mexican Intervention. A subsection devoted to it would need to repeat developments appearing in the main section. Will give this a bit more thought. Regards. Buistr 05:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am thinking of creating another sub-article like French Foreign Legion in popular culture about the culture of the legion, copying much from the site on the French Wikipedia. Maybe we can incorporate the importance of the kepi blanc there.

I am also trying to create articles about the regiments of the legion, you don't have any information about any difference in uniform between the regiments. Carl Logan 18:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A culture of the Foreign Legion sub-article sounds like a good idea. There was clearly something that elevated the Legion above what a pre-1914 observer unkindly described as "a second rate regiment of German infantry transplanted to Africa". Douglas Porch devotes a good deal of his book "The French Foreign Legion - A Complete History" to analysing what made the Legion different.

Re regimental differences within the Legion: there were suprisingly few of these at least as far as regulation wear and insignia went. The French Army has, at least since 1870, opted for standardisation within branches. Thus (for example) one cuirassier regiment in 1900 would appear like every other one except for the numbers on the collar patches. There was little of the British emphasis on regimental identity through varied facings and elaborate official badges. The Legion was the same - until 1914 the only distinction between the 1sr REI and the 2nd REI was the number 1 or 2 on the collars of tunics, vestes and greatcoats. Between the wars the newly raised 1st REC wore silver buttons and insignia (following French cavalry custom), instead of the bronze of the infanty units. The main regimental distinctions from 1916 to the present day are probably (i) the elaborate forragere lanyards worn in the colours of particular medals when a regiment as a whole has won a number of citations (for example green and red for the Croix de Guerre); and (ii) the originally unofficial regimental, battalion and company badges adopted from the 1930s on at the initiative and expense of the individual unit. In the Legion these badges share as common elements the traditional red and green colours and the grenade. Otherwise they differ greatly in design but usually have some stylised symbol of the unit's past e.g. a dragon for service in Indo-China or a horse-shoe for service as a mounted company in the Sahara. Buistr 08:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


cavalry

You wrote very detailed on the "Polish cavalry charge against tanks". Can you refer with a footnote to your source? (this way nobody will start reediting because he knows better). Actually I also learned about the Polish charging tanks with lances back in school, the usual story about Polish military unfit for the 20th century. Greetings Wandalstouring 00:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. A footnote link has been added as advised. Buistr 01:13, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wild geese

Nice work on the Flight of the Wild Geese article. Keep it up. Jdorney 09:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. The subject is an interesting one. Hopefully the article can be expanded still furtherBuistr 17:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The two links in the tag should provide you with detailed info, my two quick comments: this article needs internal links and inline citations.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  22:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Buistr. I've seen you editing a few military topics and i thought you'd be interested in joining our Military history project. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 16:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi FayssalF - yes I would be interested in joining the Military History Project. regards Buistr 17:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. I am glad you are interested. If you have any questions please feel free to approach me or anyone of our project coordinators. Regards. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 18:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Persian Immortals

That's rather odd. Granted the picture isn't 100% perfect but it gives a relatively good idea of how they looked. I used this this and this as my reference for the drawing. Feel free to add the image back if you still feel it is appropriate. However do not do so to a point that the anon draws you into a 3RR vio. A block log means more than a picture being displayed on that article. If it is once more removed, I suggest asking other editor's opinions whether to keep it or not on the talk page.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 18:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Buistr. Do you have the full details of the your book please? year, author, publisher, Isbn? Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry. I thought you hade merely removed fact tags without changing anything else. You're right. My apologies. So much of that stuff goes on that I sometimes lose patience and don't review the history to figure out what really happened. Bob98133 (talk) 19:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC) PS - thanks for fixing! Bob98133 (talk) 19:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About your changes to Karl Josef von Bachmann

First off, do not think I think you are a newbie. I am here for four years and I don't know everything there is to know, so I'd thought you might appreciate if I pointed something out to you. I saw your changes to Karl Josef von Bachmann and noticed that you did not put <ref>-Tags correctly (which is kind of hard if one is not used to it). I tried to fix it, using the {{cite book}}-template but I do not have this book and cannot thus check the correct location of the claims. So I would like to ask you to edit the article and add the page number(s) where you read this to the template, changing the "pages=" value of the template (e.g. changing <ref>{{cite book |title=The French Revolution |author=[[M.J. Sydenham]] |pages=}}</ref> to <ref>{{cite book |title=The French Revolution |author=[[M.J. Sydenham]] |pages=50-51}}</ref>. Thanks in advance and keep up the work! Also, you might want to read the MoS about references at WP:REF or the shorter essay WP:REFB. Regards. So#Why review me! 07:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for providing the interesting information on the tirailleurs tonkinois after the Sino-French War. It's out of my own period, so I learned a lot from it.

Djwilms (talk) 01:37, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When I've got time I'll go through the two volumes of Thomazi's Histoire militaire de l'Indochine, which covers every skirmish ever fought in Indochina up to the 1930s. I'm sure there will be some interesting stuff on the post-Sino-French War exploits of the tirailleurs tonkinois. I'll start with the events you mention and move on from there.
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Rifles or Tirailleurs

Hi Djilms. Further to our earlier exchange, I notice that you and Carl Logan have discussed whether tirailleurs or rifles should be the default term for the varigated "native" infantry regiments of the defunct French Empire. I wonder if a final conclusion was reached on this - as you may have noticed I have more or less alternated between the two desigations in the additions I have made to your article. I have had a number of communications with Carl over the years regarding French military articles - and in particular those relating to the Armee d' Afrique.

The correct translation of tirailleurs is a difficult one - "Rifles" is undoubtedly the most popular one but I have also seen "Skirmishers", "Levies" and "Sharpshooters" used. Even "Light Infantry", although that clearly clashes with the misnamed "Joyeux" of the Infanterie Legere d' Afrique. My personal preference would be for "Tirailleurs" but I will be happy to go along with any decision that may already have been made. Regards Buistr (talk) 03:53, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think both of us have been busy on other things, and we haven't taken the debate any further. My preference remains for Tonkinese (Annamese, Senegalese, etc) Rifles, on the grounds of accessibility. I believe that 'Rifles' remains the instinctive 'default' formulation most English-speaking readers are going to type in if they're looking for information. I'm perfectly happy to gloss that, so that the article might be titled 'Tonkinese Rifles (tirailleurs tonkinois)'. But I think the use of the French word tirailleur is out of place in an article title in an English-language encyclopedia, many of whose readers do not know French. Although I can see very clearly where Carl is coming from in his arguments for tirailleur, it would not occur to me, even though I am familiar with the structure of the French colonial forces, to type in 'Senegalese tirailleurs' as my first search choice.
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Baloch Regiment

Hello Buistr. Thanks for appreciating my efforts. As you might have guessed, I am the Official Historian of the Baloch Regiment. I am grateful to you for creating the page. I understand your concern about 'Uniforms and Insignia.' The reason I broke up the section was that the present regiment is an amalgamation of three different regiments, whose uniforms underwent numerous changes over the years. Describing these changes at the appropriate place gives them the proper historical context, while putting them all in one section was confusing the subject. Regards, Beloochee (talk) 13:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merci

Thank you for your contribution to The Women's March on Versailles! Your remarks about the palace guards add valuable information and were nicely integrated with the earlier text. Thank you also (very much!) for your kind words about the article as a whole. I see you are deeply interested in military history – would you consider having a look at the Battle of Valmy article? I rewrote it some time ago but remain unsatisfied with it; I keep meaning to get back to it but so far I haven't had the necessary inspiration. Perhaps you will–? SteveStrummer (talk) 00:30, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Borrowed your TOC illustration coding

I borrowed your TOC - illustration wiki syntax for the article U.S. Constitution. It has stood unchallenged for a week, although I am still holding my breath. As the Table of Contents got over two screens long, there was a gaping hole which I believe could turn prospective readers away. Following your example I believe leads the reader into the Table of Contents and towards the text when first opening the article page. Thanks. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 10:39, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The format looks good in this context and should readily achieve your purpose. Good luck with your improvements! Buistr (talk) 10:47, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Buistr. Thanks for your message, but I don't understand what's wrong with the picture of the Compagnies sahariennes... Could you be more specific ? DITWIN GRIM (talk) 23:12, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. I see the image without problem... Here are the links I used from Wikicommons:  ; . DITWIN GRIM (talk) 11:17, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sétif and Guelma

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Hello Buistr ! As you seem to be interested in all sorts of military units, I thought you'd might be interested by this article which I recently created : Battalion of Light Infantry of Africa

Hello Buistr. I don't know anything about the Companies d'Exclus. I thought Bat' d'Af'/Biribi/French army's colonial bagnes/bataillons disciplinaires/etc. were different names for a single unit : the BILA. Or am I confusing different units? Were the Compagnies d'Exclus a subsection of the Bat' d'Af'/Biribi or is it a completely different unit ? I may have added informations which doesn't belong to Bat' d'Af' but to a similar unit... Feel free to complete the article or to correct my mistakes. I also think about nominating this article for DYK when we'll be sure there's nothing erroneous in it.

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Hi. Ref to shakos for Line Infantry in full dress is fine. Just wanted to avoid the impression that it was part of service dress. Regards, Hengistmate (talk) 10:31, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. Perhaps I should make it clearer that the Belgian shako was service dress (as well as full dress). Regards, Hengistmate (talk) 12:09, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Buistr, I see at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/African_military_history_task_force that your interests might extend to the Free French Forces in North Africa during World War II. I've been trying to rescue Raphaël Onana, which is a translation from the French-language bio of the same NCO. One issue has been the assertion that he was awarded the Legion of Honour (I presume as a Chevalier) by de Gaulle, something that I would have thought would be easy to verify, but so far I've had no success finding an authoritative list. Sourcing of the article has been quite limited, relying mostly on his autobiography. I wonder if you might be willing to take a look at the article and see what you can do to help out. Thank you, LeadSongDog come howl! 15:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I mostly came at it from translation cleanup, but even the French-language wiki had sourcing issues. I was astonished that there's no real authoritative sourcing available online for a complete List of Légion d'honneur recipients by name, comparable to what is available for the List of Victoria Cross recipients. LeadSongDog come howl! 20:44, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for checking. Did you find anything about the units mentioned? LeadSongDog come howl! 13:45, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's helpful, anyhow. The article at fr:1er régiment de Tirailleurs du Cameroun would benefit from those sources you mention. That should be firmed up a bit before translation.LeadSongDog come howl! 13:45, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Garde Civique

Dear Buistr, As you probably saw, much of my text was a translation of the French wiki article which, unfortunately, doesn't cite any sources. If you could find any refs to use for the text, that'd be great though if not, I think the anecdote you mentioned could safely be retained with the [citation needed] tag. Best regards Brigade Piron (talk) 09:14, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spahi photograph

Hello Eliedion. Thank you for adding the very interesting 1913 photograph of the Paris amusement park scene to the Spahi article. Unfortunately the figure shown is an Algerian tirailleur (infantryman), not a spahi (cavalryman) from Senegal. I have accordingly moved it to the article on tirailleurs. Thanks again. Buistr (talk) 19:14, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message. The source indicated that it was a spahi soldier. Thanks. Eliedion (d) 20:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Are they spahi soldiers? Best regards. Eliedion (d) 15:17, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Another very good photo! Thanks for posting it. These are tirailleurs senegalais - that is to say infantrymen from what was then French West Africa. They were a separate corps from the spahis senegalais (cavalry) and wore dark blue uniforms instead of red. Detachments from these colonial regiments were brought to France in 1913 to participate in the annual Bastille Day parade. It was the first time that these soldiers had been seen in Paris and they attracted much attention. See the tirailleurs senegalais article for more pictures and background. Regards Buistr (talk) 16:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! What's translate Wissmanntruppe? Senior Strateg (talk) 14:17, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings. The terms translates as "Wissmann's troops" or "Wissmann Force". Hermann Wissmann was a German officer who organised a force of askaris to suppress a rising against the German East Africa Company in 1888-89. See Abushiri Revolt for details. Buistr (talk) 00:52, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Senior Strateg (talk) 09:22, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hachi editor issue

That one editor keeps adding the false material about "spirits reuniting" to the Hachi article. That is all the person has ever done according to their edit history. I've politely asked the person to stop before and a little less politely done so again. If this person does not stop, would you consider backing me up if I start a complaint? JayHubie (talk) 06:18, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that this is deliberate vandalism but rather the actions of a dog-lover who is distressed at the thought of a notably faithful pooch dying alone in the snow. The original Japanese film does actually conclude with Hachi running through a luminescent wood to reunite with his owner. By contrast the Swedish/American remake settles for an ambiguous ending apparently intended neither to upset viewers who believe "dogs go to heaven" nor irritate those who consider that they die uncomprehendingly like any other animal. Emotive stuff. As far as the Wiki-article goes I think that a factual summary along the lines of "dog dreams of happy past; dog is shown asleep as train approaches; professor comes out of station; dog and professor embrace; dog is shown dead, camera swings into night sky" would be the best compromise. Sorry not to be more helpful. Buistr (talk) 08:49, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Gendarmerie

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by non-foreign, I meant not an occupying force, such as US forces in Iraq. Tango303 (talk) 22:44, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, but I suggest that the original wording in the article lede be retained. Unless otherwise specified it is reasonable to assume that any named police or gendarmerie force is an indigenous one. Regards Buistr (talk) 23:31, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Bengal Army

Hi - Thanks for your recent edit to Bengal Army. Please can you add a source? Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 20:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reference added as requested. Regards Buistr (talk) 20:39, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 20:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rasputin

Hello Buistr, I like your changes in the article on Rasputin. May be you like to "collaborate" with me? I have a lot of details on Rasputin, studying his life for almost half a year. I would like to add my details, coming from Dutch experts on Rasputin, but I need some help from someone who is a native speaker, and most important, not too mystical. If you agree, I will supply you with details to improve the article. In my view it is important because the article is read each day by several hundreds of people and it will affect articles on Rasputin in other languages. Tell me if you like the idea. Regards from Amsterdam.07:14, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello Taksen. Yes I would be glad to copy-edit any material that you wish to add to the Rasputin article. I suggest that you place these additions on either your talk page or in a specially created sand box and let me have the link. Regards Buistr (talk) 07:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Look here [1]. Your alias Buistr has a Dutch flavour. Where did you get it from? Taksen (talk) 11:10, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again Taksen. I have copy-edited the draft article concentrating on spelling, grammar and English language style. I do not have any special access to reference material for this period so have only made minor changes to the actual content. Since you have clearly done a great deal of research please feel free to revert my edits. There are a couple of points where I have raised queries in bolded text. You have done a very good rework of the article - especially in view of the sometimes lurid nature of the topic and the often contradictory sources available. Best wishes Buistr (talk) 04:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. Dutch colleagues have told me that "Buist" is a not uncommon name in Holland but it is also used in Scotland where my family came from - rather unglamorously a form of paint used to mark sheep!

Hello Buistr, thank you for taking a look at the text and the compliments. I seldon came across such a difficult subject, but I learned a lot about pre-revolutionary Russia and my view on history and historians changed. I still need to adjust my text with the latest "improvements" from the real article on Rasputin. I am not sure every change in the past three months can be taken as a serious improvement. [2] Which ones do you think are interesting and can be added without doubt?Taksen (talk) 10:24, 15 October 2013 (UTC) In the mean time I uploaded my version, the one you corrected and added some of the improvements. Now we can go on there (it really became to difficult to keep track of the changes on both versions). I suppose you will keep on eye on what happens in the next few days.Taksen (talk) 13:45, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Buistr, I prefer not to use my sandbox2 anymore. I agree with your changes. Could add your them to the real article? Rasputin was against this war. I did not explain it very well.Taksen (talk) 17:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tunisian Army

Thanks for your message Buistr. I looked at the material dealing with the creation of the new army in 1956 and compared it with the information I was translating from the French Wikipedia; they seemed to be virtually identical. Happy to have you restore the material, with citations, just don't remove material that is already there and valid. You may be interested to have a look at this week's Signpost, which drew my attention to Tunisia. Also, saw your complaint about the unreferenced list of equipment, which I think you said seemed like something that would not be released. Are you aware of the IISS Military Balance?- they yearly print all this stuff for all the armies of the world. Drop me an e-mail via the emailthisuser if you'd like to see an extract. Cheers and thanks Buckshot06 (talk) 01:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Last formed surviving troops

Thanks for your edit summary. Could you maybe rephrase the sentence though? To the uninformed reader (such as myself), it doesn't make sense. --Tóraí (talk) 11:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not necessary now - another editor has picked up duplicated references within the lead section to the last stand and has (correctly) removed the first passage. For the record though "formed" troops was a term meaning that they were in ranks or a square or (as in this case) a back to back group. Anything of at least a semi-organised nature, as opposed to a rabble of fleeing individuals. I presume this was the reason for including the word in the original text. Regards (Buistr (talk) 19:13, 14 January 2014 (UTC))[reply]

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My edit to the 'Bicorne' page (in the 'cocked hat') section does make sense, as you're aware of the ban of the word 'cock' as, yes, it is slang for penis. This is why 'ball cock' is replaced with 'ball valve', and 'cock', as in a male hen, is 'rooster'. This is similar to the ban of the name 'Dick', as you're aware that 'dick' is slang for penis, and consequently, the shortened form of 'Richard' is now 'Rick'. 21:08, 20 September 2014 (UTC)Ofcdeadbeat

  • 'Cock' has about 12 different meanings (check any dictionary). The reason for deleting your addition from this particular article was that there was no connection between the slang term noted above and a historic military hat. Sorry. Buistr (talk) 00:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Lance ineffective in melee

Re: this edit, with the comment "Sourced reference for the ineffectiveness of lances in melees is given in the main text of the article", I am unable to locate the text or refs. Some main text seems to imply the opposite. Can you point the text out to me? --A D Monroe III (talk) 22:15, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but that has nothing to do with the lance in melee; melee was virtually absent from WWI. Any other refs? --A D Monroe III (talk) 19:00, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
But the quote given by Tchman does refer to a close-quarters clash between a squadron of British cavalry armed with sabers and a squadron of German uhlans carrying lances, near Mons on 22nd August 1914. I would have thought this met the dictionary definition of melees as "a confused fight, skirmish, scuffle". The lance seems to have been an overrated weapon throughout the hundred years or so that it was in use by (comparatively) modern European armies, except against infantry caught in open order. If you are looking for instances of lancers breaking opposing cavalry in a great swirling encounter you may have to go back to Napoleonic battles. Buistr (talk) 19:35, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The lede text with the cn tag you removed was about the Medieval period; the quote you have isn't for that. Even if it was, it's about a single skirmish, so fails WP:UNDUE. Your "seems to have been" implies WP:SYNTH. If this is all you have, I'd restore the cn. --A D Monroe III (talk) 16:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am adding source references for the ineffectiveness of both medieval and early 20th century lances in a melee. If you wish to continue this discussion then please move to the talk page of the article so that other editors can provide input. Buistr (talk) 18:35, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Query

Re: [4]. How do you know they're marines? The picture title at the LOC uses "sailors." I'm not adverse to changing the characterization, but I'd like to know why you did so! Best, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:45, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi The ed17. I think the hand written caption on the LOC photo got it wrong. Excusably enough. The Brazilian Navy's enlisted men c1913 wore the universal white or blue sailor suits of the era (see the photograph of mutineers in the same article). However the figures in the second photograph are wearing the same khaki drill without visible buttons, plus belts, as that worn by the Brazilian Army during 1910-20 for summer service uniforms. In addition the flat topped forage caps with side badges are the same as those worn in white by the modern Brazilian Marine Corps for gala dress. They also carry bayonets as side arms - not a usual part of a sailor's equipment. I guess this constitutes a degree of original research (historic military uniforms are my hobby) and you are welcome to revert. However the photo does seem well positioned in the article - next to a reference in the text describing a mutiny by Brazilian marines which followed on the Revolt of the Lash. Regards Buistr (talk) 20:58, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Yep, all those edits came from a long-term abuser who mixes up copyvios and false informations pursuing a strictly non neutral agenda. Ciao! --Vituzzu (talk) 22:23, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't think it's all that puzzling for police to be in civilian clothing, and it's slightly distracting to draw attention a relatively minor detail like that in the aftermath of the Glenrowan shootout. The point of interest is them posing in front of the tree where Kelly was captured, not what they're wearing. Their clothing isn't discernible at thumbnail size. I suppose it's a detail worth mentioning in the image description over at Wiki Commons? - HappyWaldo (talk) 01:22, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Toga

Hi Buistr. I reverted both your edits at Toga for the following reasons. Both the passages you edited were tagged for citation, which invites citation by reliable sources, or else removal, rather than further uncited editing. The image of Vel Saties is of a cloaked Etruscan, according to Mary Beard; not of a togate Etruscan; she's very specific about that. I happen to agree with you about the North African claims; but unless a cite can be found for either the claim or counterclaim, the sentence should probably be removed. Sorry 'bout that. Best, Haploidavey (talk) 20:49, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Failing a reliable modern opinion on the matter, it might be useful to cite Roman belief on toga origins (Pliny, IIRC), via William Smith - old but reasonably sound source. I'll remove the North African business entirely - it has remained uncited for quite some time. Haploidavey (talk) 21:02, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response, Buistr. Yes, the North African claims are highly suspect. But it seems the Romans themselves thought the toga - specifically the praetexta version - derived from the Etruscans. If that's what they thought, that's what we can say. I mean, who's to argue? Btw, William Smith has heaps on the topic, which I'm distilling, very slowly. Horrible topic, to be honest. Haploidavey (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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First of all, a Merry Christmas to you! :-)

Regarding your edit on the Persian Cossack Brigade page. You're partially right in your assesment (absorption in Reza Shah's later rule) however, the name "Iranian Cossack Brigade" is definetely used in many of the WP:RS sources. After all, even though Iran was known as Persia to the outside world for millenia, the native name has always been "Iran". Here are a few of these sources in question;

  • Although according to Domantovich, the first commandant of the Iranian Cossack Brigade, this initiative came from the shah himself, Field-Marshal Ahmad (...) -- Cronin, Stephanie. (1997). "The Army and Creation of the Pahlavi State in Iran, 1921-1926". I.B.Tauris. ISBN 978-1860641053 p. 54
  • One of the principal components of Riza Khan's new army in the nineteen-twenties was the Iranian Cossack Brigade. -- (1998) "Iran: Journal of the British Institute of Persian Studies". The Institute. (original from the University of Michigan). pp 178, 183.
  • (...)(later Riza Shah Pahlavi), and indeed within four years he rose from the rank of colonel in the Iranian Cossack Brigade to the Iranian throne. -- Shahvar, Soli. (2009). "Forgotten Schools: The Baha'Is and Modern Education in Iran, 1899-1934". I.B.Tauris. ISBN 978-0857712714 p. 5
  • Reza Khan, who had been a brigadier general in the Iranian Cossack Brigade before ousting Iran's last Qajar king in 1925. -- Wawro, Geoffrey. (2010). Penguin (chapter 10 - Reza Khan). ISBN 978-1101197684
  • military officers in European uniforms, clergymen, cadets of the military school, and one or two European women, Reza Khan Savadkuhi of the Iranian Cossack Brigade placed on (...) -- Buchan, James (2013). "Days of God: The Revolution in Iran and Its Consequences". Simon and Schuster. ISBN 978-1416597773 p 1

Hence, per the sources, I believe it should be included as an alternate name in the lede. All the best - LouisAragon (talk) 00:09, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Greetings LouisAragon. You make a convincing case for including "Iranian Cossack Brigade" as an alternative name for the unit. I suggest that you go ahead with the addition. I would do so but I think that adding source references (one or two should be sufficient) would probably infringe some esoteric Wiki code of conduct if I had not sighted the books/publications myself. Best wishes for the New Year! Buistr (talk) 05:13, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Strange why I missed your response.. Though its kind of belated, I wish you all the best for this New Year we're in as well obviously! :-) - LouisAragon (talk) 15:56, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I decided to add 4 of the 5 sources linked above within one "major" ref tag for the time being, as the article lacks alot of inline refs. They'll suffice for now, but they should get removed whenever the article has received more inline references, as they won't be needed anymore at that point. All the best - LouisAragon (talk) 16:14, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Buistr: your military Wikipedia-palmares is impressive and it was not my intention to interfere with your competence. Is it Newzealands geographical distance to Switzerland, that you are not aware of the fact, that the Duchy of Lorraine hired a Swiss Guard in 1581 (several times disbanded and newly founded) which followed Duke Franz Stephan 1737 in its ascend to the Grand Duchy of Tuscany to Florence and 1745 as Emperor of Habsburg-Lorraine to Vienna? May I give you some other hints? 1. The independent city state of Lucca in 1653 also employed a Swiss Guard. 2. Not only the Pope had its Swiss Guard, but several of its legates too. 2. The mentioned Swiss regiment in Portuguese service was not a Swiss Guard. Regards, Toni Moser (talk) 18:21, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Toni Moser. Thank you for this. I did not intend to delete your addition re the Duchy of Lorraine's Swiss Guard without explanation - but I was editing very late at night and I made a mistake. My apologies for this. There were simply a few minor spelling and grammar mistakes that I intended to correct. In addition, while I have an extensive library of military history books I was not able to trace a reference to a Swiss Guard in Lorraine. Are there any source references on this particular subject that can be added to the article? I propose to take the additional information that you have provided and restore the passage regarding Lorraine. You are welcome to correct any mistakes that I make. Regards Buistr (talk) 21:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Well, Buistr, there are sources in German about the Guard and one in English, the family tree of Franz Stephan concerned:
1. Dukes of Lorraine family tree;
2. (Odyssee of the Swiss Guard with its ship "virgin Maria" at its transfer from Lunéville to Florenz);
3. Theodor von Liebenau: Lothringen und die Schweiz, in: Katholische Schweizerblätter 1897, OCLC 717496373 (Lorraine and Switzerland);
4. Joseph Schürmann-Roth: Die Gardisten der Eidgenössischen Garde in Lothringen, Florenz und Wien im 17./18. Jahrhundert, Personenregister (bearbeitet), Staatsarchiv Luzern 1989. (Rooster of the Swiss Guard in Lorraine's Service, States Archive of the Canton Luzern);
5.Schweizer Truppen in lothringischen Diensten (gives you an overview of the Swiss Guards story in German).
Excuse my English please, Toni Moser (talk) 03:46, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hey Buistr, just in case you would like to complete your list of Swiss Guards.
The english version of the article would merit it to be complete! Regards, Toni Moser (talk) 04:37, 28 June 2019 (UTC):[reply]


# Location Name Period Source/Reference Remarks
1 France

"Cent Suisses"
Swiss Guards Regiment

1497–1792, 1814–1830
1616–1792/ 1815–1830

  • Paul de Vallière, Henry Guisan, Ulrich Wille: Treue und Ehre, Geschichte der Schweizer in fremden Diensten. (Übersetzt von Walter Sandoz). Les editions d’art ancien, Lausanne 1940.
  • Albert Maag: Geschichte der Schweizertruppen in französischen Diensten. Verlag von Ernst Kuhn, Biel 1891.
  • Abbé François Girard: Histoire Abrégée Des Officiers Suisses Qui Se Sont Distingués Aux Service Étranges Dans Des Grades Supérieurs. Tome II., Louis Piller Imprimeur, Fribourg en Suisse 1781.
  • Louis Vuillemin: Geschichte der Eidgenossen während des 16. und 17. Jahrhunderts. Aus dem Französischen, 2. Teil, Orell, Füssli und Compagnie, Zürich 1844.
2 Vatican Papal Swiss Guard 1505–1527, 1548–1798, 1800–1848, 1852–today
  • Paul de Vallière, Henry Guisan, Ulrich Wille: Treue und Ehre, Geschichte der Schweizer in fremden Diensten. (Übersetzt von Walter Sandoz). Les editions d’art ancien, Lausanne 1940.
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz. Vierter Band. Neuenburg 1927.
Still on duty today with permit of the Swiss Governement (proceedings session February 15, 1929; 297):
Le nouveau statut du St. Siège:

„… Il est difficile […] de considérer la garde papale comme une armée étrangère au sens de l’article 94 du code pénal militaire; cette troupe étant une simple garde de police, quiconque pourra y prendre du service, comme actuellement, sans l’autorisation du Conseil fédéral …“

3 Bologna Legational Papal Swiss Guard 1542–1796
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz. Vierter Band. Neuenburg 1927.
  • Urban Fink, Hervé de Weck, Christian Schweizer: Hirtenstab und Hellebarde, Die päpstliche Schweizergarde in Rom 1506–2006; Schweizerische Vereinigung für Militärgeschichte und Militärwissenschaft, Organisationskomitee «500 Jahre Schweizergarde» und Eidgenössische Militärbibliothek, Theologischer Verlag, Zürich 2006.
  • Birgit Emich: Territoriale Integration in der Frühen Neuzeit, Ferrara und der Kirchenstaat, Böhlau Verlag, Köln Weimar Wien 2005.
4 Ravenna Legational Papal Swiss Guard 1550–1796
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz. Vierter Band. Neuenburg 1927.
  • Urban Fink, Hervé de Weck, Christian Schweizer: Hirtenstab und Hellebarde, Die päpstliche Schweizergarde in Rom 1506–2006; Schweizerische Vereinigung für Militärgeschichte und Militärwissenschaft, Organisationskomitee «500 Jahre Schweizergarde» und Eidgenössische Militärbibliothek, Theologischer Verlag, Zürich 2006.
5 Perugia Legational Papal Swiss Guard 1550–1796
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz. Vierter Band. Neuenburg 1927.
  • Urban Fink, Hervé de Weck, Christian Schweizer: Hirtenstab und Hellebarde, Die päpstliche Schweizergarde in Rom 1506–2006; Schweizerische Vereinigung für Militärgeschichte und Militärwissenschaft, Organisationskomitee «500 Jahre Schweizergarde» und Eidgenössische Militärbibliothek, Theologischer Verlag, Zürich 2006.
  • Akte AKT13/1359, Staatsarchiv Luzern.
6 Avignon Legational Papal Swiss Guard 1573–1790
  • Urban Fink, Hervé de Weck, Christian Schweizer: Hirtenstab und Hellebarde, Die päpstliche Schweizergarde in Rom 1506–2006; Schweizerische Vereinigung für Militärgeschichte und Militärwissenschaft, Organisationskomitee «500 Jahre Schweizergarde» und Eidgenössische Militärbibliothek, Theologischer Verlag, Zürich 2006.
  • Ulrich Nersinger: Die Päpstliche Schweizergarde in Avignon, kathnews-Redaktion, 2014. gelesen 3. Juli 2016, 20:0.
7 Ferrara Legational Papal Swiss Guard 1598–1796
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz. Vierter Band. Neuenburg 1927.
  • Urban Fink, Hervé de Weck, Christian Schweizer: Hirtenstab und Hellebarde, Die päpstliche Schweizergarde in Rom 1506–2006; Schweizerische Vereinigung für Militärgeschichte und Militärwissenschaft, Organisationskomitee «500 Jahre Schweizergarde» und Eidgenössische Militärbibliothek, Theologischer Verlag, Zürich 2006.
  • Alois Müller: Zur Geschichte der päpstlichen Garde in Ferrara und ihr Verhältnis zu Zug, Zeitschrift für schweizerische Kirchengeschichte, Band 34, 1940.
8 Urbino (and Pesaro) Legational Papal Swiss Guard (1584)/1631–1796
  • Urban Fink, Hervé de Weck, Christian Schweizer: Hirtenstab und Hellebarde, Die päpstliche Schweizergarde in Rom 1506–2006; Schweizerische Vereinigung für Militärgeschichte und Militärwissenschaft, Organisationskomitee «500 Jahre Schweizergarde» und Eidgenössische Militärbibliothek, Theologischer Verlag, Zürich 2006.
  • Salvatore Caponetto: Pesaro e la legazione d’Urbino nella seconda metà del sec. XVIII, in Studia Oliveriana VII, Organ der oliverianischen Bibliothek und Museen, Pesaro 1959.
9 ? Legational Papal Life Guard "Chigi" 1666–?
  • Urban Fink, Hervé de Weck, Christian Schweizer: Hirtenstab und Hellebarde, Die päpstliche Schweizergarde in Rom 1506–2006; Schweizerische Vereinigung für Militärgeschichte und Militärwissenschaft, Organisationskomitee «500 Jahre Schweizergarde» und Eidgenössische Militärbibliothek, Theologischer Verlag, Zürich 2006.
  • Alois Müller: Zur Geschichte der päpstlichen Garde in Ferrara und ihr Verhältnis zu Zug, Zeitschrift für schweizerische Kirchengeschichte, Band 34, 1940.
10 Netherlands life guard "Guardes Zwiters" 1672–?
  • Robert Murray Bakker (Albach): Die Schweizer Regimenter in holländischen Diensten 1693-1797, Artikel in Jahrbuch der Schweizerischen Gesellschaft für Familienforschung, 1989, S. 57–104, wiedergegeben in Texte zur Geschichte von Untervaz, Untervazer Burgenverein, Untervaz, 2012.
11 Genova Swiss Guard 1609–1797
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz. Vierter Band. Neuenburg 1927.
  • Angelo Terenzoni: I Militari Svizzeri al servizio della Repubblica di Genova. Presentazione al convegno Le alabarda, La Repubblica di Genova, La Guardia Svizzera e non solo, Biblioteca Berio, Genova 2010.
12

Lorraine
Tuscany
Austria

Swiss Guard 1581–1638, 1641–1654, 1699–1767
  • Theodor von Liebenau: Lothringen und die Schweiz, in: Katholische Schweizerblätter 1897.
  • Joseph Schürmann-Roth: Die Gardisten der Eidgenössischen Garde in Lothringen, Florenz und Wien im 17./18. Jahrhundert, Personenregister (bearbeitet), Staatsarchiv Luzern 1989.
13

Savoy
Sardinia

company Swiss Guard 1579–1798, 1799–1802, 1814–1832
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz, Vierter Band, Neuenburg 1927.
  • M.-N. Gysin: Les troupes suisses dans le royaume de Sardaigne, Revue Militaire Suisse, Band 59, Hefte 7 & 11, 1914.
14 Lucca Swiss Federal Guard 1653–1806
  • Schürmann: Liste der Offiziere und Mannschaften der Schweizergarde in Lucca, 1653–1792. 1982.
  • La Guardia Svizzera, archiv palazzo ducale di Lucca.
  • Akte AKT 13/1114, Staatsarchiv Luzern.
15 Saxony Swiss Guard 1656–1680, 1725–1757, 1763–1814
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz. Vierter Band, Neuenburg 1927.
  • Hugo Schneider: Eine Partisane aus der sächsischen Schweizergarde. Jahresbericht/ Schweizerisches Landesmuseum Zürich, Band 53, 1944.
  • Alfred von Welck: Schweizer Soldtruppen in Kursächsischen Diensten 1701–1815. Neues Archiv für Sächsische Geschichte und Alterthumskunde, Herausgeber Dr. Hubert Ermisch, vierzehnter Band, Wilhelm Baensch, Königlich Sächsische Hofverlagsbuchhandlung, Dresden 1893.
16 Prussia Swiss Palace Guard 1696–1713
  • Moritz von Wattenwil: Die Schweizer in fremden Kriegsdiensten. Separatdruck aus dem Berner Tagblatt, Bern 1930.
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz, Vierter Band, Neuenburg 1927.
  • Alfred von Welck: Schweizer Soldtruppen in kursächsischen Diensten 1656-1681, Dr. Hubert Ermisch, Neues Archiv für Sächsische Geschichte, Band 13, S. 224, Wilhelm Baensch, Königlich Sächsische Hofverlagsbuchhandlung, Dresden 1892.
17 Naples

Swiss Guard Bataillon
Swiss Guard Regiment

1734–1754
1754–1789

  • Robert-Peter Eyer: Die Schweizer Regimenter in Neapel im 18. Jahrhundert (1734–1789), Internationaler Verlag der Wissenschaften Peter Lang AG, Bern 2008.
  • Heinrich Türler, Viktor Attinger, Marcel Godet: Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz, Vierter Band, Neuenburg 1927.
  • Oskar Erismann: Die Schweizer in neapolitanischen Diensten, Blätter für bernische Geschichte, Kunst und Altertumskunde, Band 14, Heft 1, 1918.
18 Egypt Swiss Guard 1882–1683 Illegal recruitment without permit of the Swiss Governement.

Federal Law, regarding recruitment and admission to foreign military service (July 30, 1859):
Article 1:
Admission without Swiss governement permit to foreign troops not authorized as national by the respective state, is forbidden for every Swiss citizen [...].}}

      • Hello again Toni Moser. Thank you very much for the extensive additional material. When I have time to spare I will incorporate references in the article to those Swiss Guards not already listed. Regards Buistr (talk) 22:38, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Revista de Historia Militar (ISSN 0482-5748) published by the Ejército de Tierra de España

Hello Buistr,

I am directly approaching you as one of the task force participants of the Spanish military history task force, which invites interested parties to contact you.

The magazine/academic journal by the Ministerio de Defensa of the Kingdom of Spain which I cited above has been published twice a year since 1957. I created its article (duly referenced to CSIC = the Spanish National Research Council), to Dialnet (an academic research network) of University of La Rioja, to the Real Colegio de Artillería, to the Ministry itself (ejercito.defensa.gob.es), and to a book, namely ISBN 978-84-617-2104-7, citing page 59.

Well, the English Wikipedia entry about Revista de Historia Militar has just now been draftified, four months later, and after others have contributed to it. I would appreciate it if you could have a gander at it, and, if you think it fair, push the big blue button "submit the draft for review!" if you deem it appropriate.

Note: a version of this article (in Spanish) exists at wikipedia in Spanish (I know we consider other wikipedias irrelevant, but it probably does not hurt to mention it).

Else, we can always delete it. I would appreciate any comments you may have. XavierItzm (talk) 05:31, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

EASTEREGG

Hiya. Relative to this edit/RV, and in the context of the WP:EASTEREGG guideline ("link the phrase, not a single word"), how would the reader be expected to know that the target article, for the word "Swiss", is Swiss mercenaries? And not Swiss people or Switzerland or simply Swiss? Especially when none of the terms/words link in the same way? (Walloons, for example, just links to the article on the people/culture. To your own point, when the article deals specifically with Swiss mercenaries, why "hide" that fact? ) Guliolopez (talk) 11:46, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for catching my erroneous changes away from British English. However, it is not appropriate to refer to this disaster as an "accident."

Perhaps "accident" can be replaced with "derailment" or "disaster" (though in my view, crash would still be an appropriate word to use in this case). You can learn more about why "accident" is a poor word to use in this case, and nearly all like it.

Many reliable sources are shifting away from the use of the word "accident" all together. The AP Style Guide follows the same logic.

"Crash" is a shorter word that more accurately describes what happened. Let me know what you think and if you'd like to to replace accident with some of these other options. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 20:15, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Upon further thought, I think "derailment" and in a couple of cases "disaster" is the best candidate for this article. I'll wait to hear your thoughts, but I am confident that either of these words is superior to "accident". Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 20:21, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi,

This needed to be added to French Army in World War I as it was a missing part of the story. I have been trying to up the article. Are you able to cite the source from where this comes from, please?

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Sorry, I was very tired, and the request did not flow as it should have. Its horribly brusque when read after a full night's rest.
What I was trying to say is that back in 2012, there was no reference to the fact that French soldiers participated in campaigns other than the Western Front, and you rendered a great service in providing some text to that effect. Would it be possible to revisit this, and to add the source or sources from where this came from, please? Keith H99 (talk) 14:14, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for adding the source attribution. I have been trying to tidy up the article. The content you provided was great, but as part of the tidy-up, I wanted to attribute what we have to sources, to underline the credibility of the content. The comment on training was added by someone else, with whom I am going to ask for assistance. Have a great day! Keith H99 (talk) 11:50, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry @Buistr, I've come back to this
'According to the sources cited above a sizeable portion of the French troops utilised in the West African, Dardanelles and Palestine campaigns were North African and colonial units, both European and indigenous.'
Is it possible to have the specific pages from the books that raise this? On paper, there was one Colonial Division, and half of the infantry component from the 156th Infantry Division were six battalions associated with North African 19th Military Region. I'm trying to get things set in stone, so as to speak, and to remove ambiguities. Keith H99 (talk) 17:31, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. I was under the impression that an academic had expressed their opinion in print. I had been expecting to see a reference to this, which is where I have had a misconception.
Is this your point of view, as informed by the sources that you mentioned, that the bulk of the French troops utilised in the Dardanelles and Palestine campaigns were Colonial or North African units? Keith H99 (talk) 07:46, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for the assistance rendered. I had got it into my head that there was a particular publication, and could not get it out of my head. What you have been able to provide puts a lot of other elements of the article to shame, in respect of decent citations from reliable sources, so I consider this successfully concluded. Keith H99 (talk) 22:34, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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