You wrote on my talk page "Thanks for solving the archiving problem for the Syrian detailed map talk page. I guess if editing archive times comes under general sanctions, then so too must setting it up. The corresponding Iraqi map's talk page Module talk:Iraqi insurgency detailed map#Status of Alqosh could probably due with having archiving set up having 105 sections"
The archive times do not usually come under general sanctions. I only did that because on the ISIL talk page there has been repeated bickering about the length, and I wanted to make sure that in the first case that did not happen.
In the case of the second page I have simply set up the archiving with no comment that it is an administrative action. Any editor can set up such archiving on any talk page, either as a bold move or after proposing it in a new section at the bottom and gaining consensus. So you could have set up the archiving on Module talk:Iraqi insurgency detailed map yourself. There are several bots that can be used (see Help:Archiving), but probably the best one to use on these pages is "User:MiszaBot/config" as that is used on other talk pages in the Syrian Civil War/ISIL general sanctions area, and so editors who care are familiar with the parameters.
One of the problems with bot archiving is for good reasons it does not archive sections which have no time stamps. So on initiating a bot archive, those sections have to be archived by hand or signatures have to be added by hand. I find Wikipedia:WikiBlame a useful tool for finding out who added unsigned text and then I add signatures using {{unsigned2}}. You will notice that those sections I have altered to add a signature do not archive immediately instead the bot computes the date of the last edit to the section and will archive them in due course. -- PBS (talk) 14:50, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Then I apologise for not making it clearer. Misinterpretations happen, and if you misunderstood it, it is possible someone using that statement to judge whether or not you did anything wrong could also misunderstand it. In the worst case scenario it could be the difference between you getting a ban/block and being exonerated (either way around). Unlike in editing talkpages where a lack of clarity may mean a temporally slightly worse article, ANIs can have long lasting effects so if I'm unclear, please tell me in future. John Smith the Gamer (talk) 23:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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First off, I'd like to thank you for your contributions on maps of the Islamic State. I hope you know how much it means to the hundreds of thousands of people who view those images each day, as well as for us fellow wikipedians.
However, I was wondering if you could provide a source for your edits on the territorial control of various groups. For example, a map you derived it from, or a news article, It would be very helpful.
The information comes from the module/template from the relevant map (see my user page or the map's information). Note that the {Syria and Iraq} detailed map automatically takes information from the Iraq map and the Syria map. John Smith the Gamer (talk) 11:10, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Semi-protection on talk page
Hello John, a while back you suggested I consider getting my talk page semi-protected. Having had another allegation aired today, I think that would be a sensible idea. Could you tell me how someone goes about to semi-protect a page? Mbcap (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure of the procedure, but can be done as an administrative action (ie by an admin). I'm not convinced that there is enough disruption to justify it, although I'm the one who mentioned it. There may be something about it on WP:SPP. John Smith the Gamer (talk) 14:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
John could you point me in the right direction, because the admin I asked for help, said he/she was busy to respond. Where does one go to air a grievence about another editor? I only know of ANI but I do not want to take up their time over there, if there is a more appropriate place for these sort of things. Thanks Mbcap (talk) 09:29, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Do you mean I should consider carefully before taking any action? If that is what you mean, I am planning on reflecting on my own actions first for a few days before I do such a thing, anyway. Thanks for the help. Mbcap (talk) 11:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
When you put it that way, I am inclined to think you are correct. I do not think I will consider dispute resolution any more, my efforts would be better spent improving the wiki. Thank you for providing much needed perspective. Mbcap (talk) 12:04, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid I am unfamiliar with vector graphics. I intend to do the tutorial soon, but have no idea of how long it would take to learn how to use SVG graphics compantly, or to update using them. I believe Spesh is able to use SVG graphics. Banak (talk) 12:48, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Kathovo: Ok, I had a look at the Inkscape tutorial and it didn't look like much use to what I'm doing. However, just playing around with it seems to have been a lot of help, I believe it might be easier to update in SVG format (once I'm familiar with it), if there is an easy way to copy Template:Syrian_and_Iraqi_insurgency_detailed_map into an SVG editing program. Any tips for this? Banak (talk) 15:46, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It is possible to make a clickable SVG image but it won't work in Wikipedia AFAIK. It is best to leave the Iraq and Syria modules as they can be very easily updated that way.
Best way to learn swimming is to throw yourself at water :p. Take a look at the Libyan war file history and try to play around with layers and vector points using Inkscape as an editor. You will realise it's much easier than you thought.--Kathovotalk08:41, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Kathovo: I don't want to change the format on Wikipedia, rather I wish to know how I can get its content into a SVG file from it for the purpose of making the SVG file. Copy and paste doesn't seem to work, but I may be messing up. Else I don't know how I can update the map. Banak (talk) 09:29, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for bringing it to my attention
In future take such a thing to the talk page of the perpetrator or to an admin (we have the tools to clean up such edits). Clearly the user is not experienced and was trying to fix a problem. How do I know that see the history of Talk:John Dewey. I know you were acting in good faith but in doing that you could yourself be accused of trying to out someone (as IP information says a lot about a person). I will post a message to the user concerned warning them not to do it in future. -- PBS (talk) 16:20, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
edit clash. I'll recheck but I think I have. The trouble is that the most active page has had a problem with its DB and I don't want to mess with it more than I have. As it is such an active page the information will soon be lost. -- PBS (talk) 17:36, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yemen war map
Hi. Can I ask you why you didn't upload this map as an updated version of this map, so that all the articles displaying the latter will display the former? In the meanwhile, this new map has been uploaded and placed in two articles on enwiki, but it doesn't seem to be based on the updated template, unlike yours. Thanks, Nykterinos (talk) 17:41, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure my new map is too good, particularly the first version I made of it. We just had a lot of activity on the Yemen module, so I plan on updating it soon.
@Nykterinos: I did not, however the shading appears to be taken from this map which was uploaded with CC0 so their usage is fine. Had they used a version of the map at File:Yemen war detailed map.png, then they may have violated someone's copyright, which is a little weird when I really don't care for copyright. Banak (talk) 00:09, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@DaJesuZ:, thankyou. Needless to say, we wouldn't have these maps without the dozens of editors who tirelessly plot and mark villages and towns according to the latest reliable news reports for the modules, which is pretty much why I haven't got one for Ukraine, Lebanon or Nigeria.
I did consider both, but Ukraine already has a brilliant map due plentiful information. The Lebanese module has had no content edits in 3 weeks and few marks because of the low level of fighting. That said, for a while I didn't make a Yemeni map for the same reason before that war unfortunately flared up. Ideally, there'd be no more need for a map for Lebanon due to a lack of violence.
Also, Boko Harem who I wanted to map, look to be losing all their territory before Wikipedia can map them, which is good. The second deadliest conflict of this year can't end too soon. Banak (talk) 03:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Untitled section on Syrian Civil war map
Because of the horrendous alteration of the savable file of the Syrian Civil War map, made by Magog the Ogre, I decided to try altering it myself.
The alterations I've made, admittedly, may be incorrect, since I haven't done much looking into who owns what, other than simply looking at the more detailed map, which is what my alterations are based on.
There are a few things that are, "wrong," with my alteration, that I left that way, intentionally, such as ownership of a few towns in the North-East being fought over by the Kurds and Islamic State, or control over a few mountains and other areas in the country's West and South-West.
The main difference is the Islamic State's push into central Homs, where they have taken many towns, and are now on the outskirts of Palmyra and Tadmur, however, I left Palmyra and Tadmur the way it was, because I'm not sure whether or not fighting is going on inside of Tadmur, and I haven't read any reports stating that the Islamic State is inside of the Palmyra ruins, however, I did read that they are within one kilometer of the city (which is, what, 0.6 miles, or something?) s it may be a good idea to mark the dot for Palmyra and Tadmur either being fought for, or halfway surrounded by the Islamic State.
I hope my revisions are correct, and I hope someone more experienced will be able to use it for the basis of future updates!.
Banak actually, I tried uploading an edit I made to that map, but, because I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff, I didn't do it.
DaJesuZ don't worry, we reverted the ogre. Just checking I didn't misunderstand everything in the conversation before. I have previously screwed up by thinking people meant one map when they meant another. Dw about noobiness, it wears off. If you have any questions let me know. Banak (talk) 00:41, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Banak, well, yes, I do have a question XD how do I upload a photo? I'd like to replace the one currently there with the one I made revisions to.
DaJesuZ the Syrian civil war picture is hosted on Wikimedia commons, so you follow the link on the file page to view on commons. Then scroll down past previous revisions to find a button that says "upload a new version of this file" click that add attachment and description and you're done. Banak (talk) 08:04, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Edit semi-protected: No problem, there are a lot of tags on the top of the page, and it's easy to miss. Sorry you wasted your time while trying to improve the article, and I'm glad one of my edit summaries finally actually did some good. Banak (talk) 20:51, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Tareq0darThanks, I can give you an email address if you need to talk offsite. 1fun63+4fkzykzcngq3w@sharklasers.com is my temporary email, is that OK? Banak (talk) 23:39, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Tareq0dar The temporary email I mention above won't work if you send a message while I'm away, which I'm going to be. I am not revealing any real life info including Facebook. However, you can message using Special:EmailUser/Banak, or post on this page if you're willing for others to read what you want to discuss. Bear in mind I am not an administrator or overseerer, so you may wish to contact one of them if you have a problem that needs their powers. Banak (talk) 00:15, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Formal mediation has been requested
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I noticed that you, too have been requested to take part in mediation, and I'd like to say congrats, for being recognized for you contributions to the Syrian Civil War page, as a whole, and I hope you'll be around for some time to come! c:
Now, to continue showcasing my ignorance of how Wikipedia works, I have absolutely no idea how to agree to the edit request, and I'm hoping that you, by any chance, can help! Haha — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaJesuZ (talk • contribs) 13:12, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@DaJesuZ: Thanks, though I think the mediation process is more about gathering people to negotiate rather than recognising contributions. I'm not sure what you mean by "the edit request", could you perhaps rephrase the question? If your question is about mediation, then your question might be best answered here. Banak (talk) 21:17, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Can I request
that if you want to change your "GregKaye" reference in your 17:51, 15 August 2015 post at the ISIL talk page that you change to "GregKaye" rather than "GregKaye". This would at least keep my slow response in context. GregKaye06:03, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I would also like to offer a bit of context to my recent comments. I can get the references if needed but, a little while ago, an editor was taken to ANI for removing the "extremist" reference from the ISIL article lead. I was the main editor arguing against high levels of sanction. I have no intention to, myself, take editors to AN/I within any current level of context. GregKaye07:45, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yemen Civil War detailed map
I've noticed that the Yemen Civil War template is messed up. I have absolutely no idea how to fix it, so I thought I would bring it to your attention, so you, or someone else would do something about it, cuz, you know, it's a war, and, yeah. That's always important. (Obvious sarcasm is obvious.)DaJesuZ (talk) 23:26, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
DaJesuZ Can't see anything wrong with that template either. What exactly do you mean by "messed up", is it a technical problem viewing it (like an error) or is it that the map is incorrect? Banak (talk) 05:17, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
When I tried viewing the map earlier tonight, it said that something having to do with the Edit page was missing , and that the file was gone, too, but I still got a map with a few cities on it, including Derna and Tripoli (Derna appeared black). I'm not sure why this is. I feel like I'm wasting your time, because it looks like it resolved itself, but I'll let you know if it happens again.DaJesuZ (talk) 05:35, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Yesterday i created a module based from this map (i copied them and changed them so it can be compatible with Lua scripting). It's about Sudanese internal conflicts (War in Darfur, South Kordofan and Blue Nile conflicts), so can you add this map to your table? --SMB99thxXD11:51, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Jackmcbarn. I think I was was probably one of trying to make a map off diffs to update the maps more easily (or something similar), and forgot about it. Thanks for fixing it. Also, thanks for your contributions to the maps I was trying to partially emulate and your keeping the category you were dealing with relatively empty. Banak (talk) 03:26, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
South Sudan map
Actually, the Sudan map was i asked to add in your table there was a mistake: you titled it "South Sudan", but it should be "Sudan". So i created the real South Sudan map (map was created by another person (without "detailed map title"), but i moved it to this present title) and a module too. Is that okay? --SMB99thxXD09:10, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
SMB99thx, I'll add the Somali module and Template, for now, thanks for the links. Hopefully I'll remember when I get a minute to find the two maps by LightandDark, or if you have the links to hand that'd also help. Banak (talk) 18:35, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Links are here. Nigerian map (Nigeria map) and Sinai maps (Sinai map) here. (They are on the right). Sorry if the images are shown here instead of links. (also please remove Somalia from benefits, they already made) --SMB99thxXD22:06, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. That's a lot of maps on one table now. Also fixed the lebanon links as well. For future reference to link a file type a colon before the word "File" like this [[:File:Sinai insurgency map.png]] to get this File:Sinai insurgency map.png. Banak (talk) 23:20, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
New vector maps!
Hello! Just wanted to notice that the vector versions of the current civil wars maps ,except Iraq and Syria, has been uploaded. As you may know vector images can take much less size than other types of images (.png) and can be zoomed without quality loss. If you want to make any updates please make sure to apply them on new vector maps .
Thank you!:) Ali Zifan08:00, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Map editing
Hey Banak,
at first, my respect for your great works on the maps around the civil wars in Syria, Iraq and so on!
I would really like to help improving these maps and the templates.
The problem is that I don't really know how to do this. Is there something like a tutorial for it?
And how can I save my changings as a .svg file?--Ermanarich (talk) 21:56, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ermanarich I believe I only made .png maps. For them I'd use a tool to take a screenshot of page of the relevant module, then crop it down to just the module, and then overlay colours on the foreground with 50% transparency, making sure I saved the map before merging. For subsequent updates I'd use some kind of "difference" mode so I could see what changed and change the colouring in those areas. A good place to start is to use an existing .png maps. I had a few tricks (mainly macros) I used to make things easier or neater, but that's the main jist of it.
I'm not sure about a .svg file, because you'd probably want to copy the location of the large number of villages. It's a whole different thing to make the map as a .svg file, and the above thing wouldn't work. Basically, it's harder because .svg files like exact locations, so you can't just use a screenshot, though it would make the shading easier, as you could place it behind villages and in front of the background of the map. Vector graphics should explain the most important differences between .svg and .png more clearly. Banak (talk) 09:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I'll see what I'll be able to do. For the .svg-files, I may ask Ali Zifan, since he created very much in this area, amongst others the Yemeni Civil War map.--Ermanarich (talk) 22:07, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maps of Pakistani and Israeli-Palestinian conflicts
You edited the map on the Syrian civil war on 5. April 2015, a few days after the rebels took control of the Nasib border crossing, and added another crossing east of it near Salkhad in the Suwayda governorate, as being government controlled. I do not doubt the correctness of this edit, as most parts of the province are government controlled until today but as we have a statement in the German wikipedia claiming that Nasib had been the last Syrian-Jordan border crossing in government hands I would be thankful if you could give a source on that other crossing, who held it and what the name of it is (couldn't find it on GoogleMaps or Openstreetmap but that need not mean much as there may well be a newly opened crossing not yet considered by these maps). Thank you in advance, --Proofreader (talk) 12:38, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to talk through how I'm doing this, so if you want to do this again you (or anyone else who asks me) can try to, but also explain where I'm coming from. I first look through the history of Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map. In this case this is the relevant code, and all the crossings include "Mountain pass 12x12" per the key. Checking the following lines of code there, which share the same coordinates, I see the following are government controlled crossings (as the next line says red): Masnaa, Qamishli, Al-Tanf, Dabbousiyah, Jawsiyah (Though Intentionally out of order on map), Kesab, Al-Ruwashid and Arida. Alternatively, I could have just moused over it on the current template and read it's name off as "Al-Ruwashi Crossing", but for some reason I thought it'd been removed. I then open wikiblame by opening revision history on the module, and then click "Revision history search"... and for some reason something goes wrong and I scratch my head. So instead I click previous diff, from the above linked past version. I find that it was submitted in this diff and had it's coordinates tweaked here and finally here.
I'm a bit suspect of this, "Apparently there is a third border cross between Syria and Jordan controlled by Regime forces" is the entire edit summary by AlAboud83. Checking AlAboud83's user talk page history at the time, we get this. I now realise you've asked AlAboud83 the edit in question, but he's the ansewer: the last section of that talkpage history is what you want, and it includes four links: 123four. For a final check, to see if there's any more, I return to the module talkpage history, and find this which I think is vaguely related to the discussion. Best of luck in working out details about this crossing, and come to your own conclusion. Banak (talk) 01:58, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, that helps a bit further. I also did a bit of research outside of wikipedia and found that according to sources Ruwashid was regarded in "early 2015" as an "unofficial border crossing point" [1] (page 74). Yet the development on the ground seems to be such that at least what refugees is concerned, neither Syrian government units nor the Jordanians won't let much through the border there, so for the most part that border must be regarded as closed for the time being and the "crossings" (there seem to be further unofficial crossings to the East) cannot really be crossed. There are right now respective reports on the dire situation this causes for the refugees and these reports may help to update the map there - maybe such crossings can be marked as "out of order" like Jawsiyah or not marked as crossings at all if the map is updated. Apart from that there can be no doubt that the Suwayda governorate and its border to Jordan is still under government control so the map is still correct what this is concerned. From me too thanks for all your efforts concerning the maps. --Proofreader (talk) 06:35, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Any new maps will be added to the system, and currently it updates every 300 minutes. Next step is introducing grouping/decluttering. 1.144.96.59 (talk) 04:26, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Saflid, thankyou for the kind words, though I'm not sure I agree about them being the best. I feel I'm not up to, for example, Spesh531's standard and I feel what I've done on this map is pretty much just imitating what they did. As for maps not being reverted, I can live with the idea that someone may revert by updating certain areas from the preceding map. My main aim was to get the map vaguely updated. Banak (talk) 02:26, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Newsboy39, I'm having some technical problems so looks naff but uploading now. It probably would have been easier for me to do something with the syria and iraq map to make this. Banak (talk) 21:40, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Before doing anything else, have you edited the Iraqi civil war map correctly as per the template/module? Because the module shows Qayyarah and Qayyarah oil facility to be under government control. However, your map shows Qayyarah to be still contested and the oil facility still under ISIL's control. Newsboy39 (talk) 23:35, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Newsboy39, I must have used a couple hours old version of the module, I'll fix that. As for syria, I'll consider whether it's likely to start an edit war if I do and how easy it is to update at the same time as the Iraq and Syria map. Banak (talk) 08:10, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've done the Iraq map and the Iraq and Syria map, but not the Syrian map. It'd be pretty easy to do at the same time as syria and iraq map. But I'm gunna leave it until the map is a bit older because of potential for edit warring as they don't appear to be using the module atm. Banak (talk) 09:11, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Alright thanks for the help. About Syria, I think you can at the least show Jarabulus city and al-Ra'i under FSA control. I know the editors on the module do not use reliable sources sometimes, but capture of al-Ra'i and Jarabulus has been confirmed by reliable sources. Newsboy39 (talk) 09:37, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I would but I am having problems with my normal device for doing this for the minute that will last an indefinate length of time. Hopefully this will not be for too long. Banak (talk) 12:09, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Kevin, thank you. If I'd realised you'd be following them I'd have used a couple of anchors instead, didn't think anyone would be following them all, it was just a matter of capitalisation stopping links from working properly, one of the nicer to fix problems. Banak (talk) 02:46, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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