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Hi, I've reviewed some of your pages - please expand them and add citations to ensure that they assert significance to warrant a Wikipedia article. Thanks! DrStrausstalk23:26, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Ways to improve Star-Dancer
Hi, I'm ONUnicorn. BOZ, thanks for creating Star-Dancer!
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Article relies entirely on citations to the comics she appeared in. Needs citations to outside sources to show real-world context and notability.
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Hey, there. I am thinking about creating some stub articles for RPG designer stubs, and might draw on some of the material you have in draft form (e.g. Grabowski and Marsh). Would this be alright with you? Newimpartial (talk) 16:23, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
If you want to work on those drafts, you can do it directly and/or I can move them back into article space. If you're talking about something else, I'm not sure what you mean. BOZ (talk) 05:43, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
So, I released Robert Hatch into the world last night; thanks for your help. If you had a chance to think about sourcing for my userspace article, Line developer, I would appreciate it. I want to get that one finished before I put out the Grabowski and Baugh articles. Newimpartial (talk) 12:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Sounds good. Very busy today, so I don't have time to really work on anything, but maybe tomorrow. Just for future reference, especially on the ones I have in draft space, you can always just use the "move" fuction to retain the edit history, rather than doing a cut and paste. BOZ (talk) 18:40, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! No rush on anything, just in case you have the time, I wanted you to know what was up next for me. I published using "move", but I guess it never occurred to me to use "move" to fix a title issue. Now I know. :) Newimpartial (talk) 18:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for checking! Line developer won't be ready til the weekend, I think, in case you can think of a source besides Designers to edit in. I think I'm going to have to make a brief historical summary to have grounds for WP:N for that article.
I think it's important, because one of the categories of people that keep running into WP:NOTABILITY problems is game designers who are more notable as line developers than for their author credits. White Wolf made this particularly bad by crediting game creators as "lead designers" or "lead developers" and treating authorship more like what would be "contributing author" status for other companies, but I am implementing work-arounds for this problem as I go. However, it would be good to have a backstop for cases like Grabowski where I think notability is obvious, but it is based on the relationship between the line developer and the notable work.Newimpartial (talk) 12:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
I have my own feelings about Notability which does not necessarily match with the most commonly-held attitudes among Wikipedians. ;) I say go for it, if you have at least one good WP:RS we can always try to find more, but one good one is a good place to start. BOZ (talk) 01:45, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
I imagine you do have some feelings. ;) It is too bad about the Emily Care Boss article; I have a feeling people didn't have the Platinum Appendix at hand when editing that one. Anyway, I've found bloody peer reviewed scholarship attesting to her importance, so when I'm done with that article (hopefully by the end of the month) there should not be any issues with WP:N. Thanks for fighting the good fight, though. Newimpartial (talk) 01:49, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Hey, sorry to bother you again, but I have another question. I see that the Nicotine Girls article is currently a redirect, as a result of an AfD discussion based on a short article (which doesn't seem to have observed that the game was notable because of its Indie award, but anyway, the sourcing of the article could have been better). I'm not working on it tonight, but when I have something ready, could you stop the redirect so that we could put up the article? I'm not sure exactly how to do that, and I imagine you do. :) Newimpartial (talk) 03:44, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
You might think about moving from draft to userspace anything you have that is more than six months stale or that has been rejected at AfC, as the deletor is extraordinarily active at the moment. Newimpartial (talk) 01:28, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm not too worried about them getting deleted, but hey if you've got anything that will improve any of them then we have less of a reason to worry about that. :) BOZ (talk) 02:31, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
RE:Menzoberranzan
Hey BOZ. I can't remember whether they talked about it, but I'll look through those reviews and send you whatever I find. It almost feels like I saw them mention it a few times. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 07:51, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Unfortunately, looking through the reviews, there wasn't much in the way of commentary on the city. The best material was in this review, but I doubt it even that will be helpful. If all else fails, you could try the game's official manual and cluebook. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 00:22, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
What is the proper procedure for merging articles? I've noticed a couple of times that TTN simply redirects the article to be lost, but does not transfer any material. In effect, the article to be lost is simply deleted. Is this proper form? Or is the "re-director" also supposed to merge some material from the redirected article? Guinness323 (talk) 06:33, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
I don't think he's under any obligation to merge anything, as the difference between merge and redirect is an editorial decision. It would be polite of him to do some of the actual merging, but I am not holding my breath for politeness there. Naturally, he wants the material gone from WP, so why would he want to include it anywhere else? On the other hand, it would be improper for him to prevent anyone else from merging it properly. BOZ (talk) 11:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi BOZ, Quite frankly I've had enough of them for one day so I don't plan to revert however if you wanted to send them to AN/I I'd support - They're clearly ignoring consensus (I do agree it is an editorial thing but this goes beyond that - they're just redirecting without looking or quite honestly caring), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk23:01, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
I can't disagree with you, but I don't have any intention of reverting any of these either. I prefer not to waste my time on negativity; life is too short for that, and there is plenty of it out there. BOZ (talk) 23:03, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
I 100% agree with you, Think it's fair to say we both have better things to do with our time, Thanks for the ping anyway, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk23:25, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Just so everyone is on the same page. I am not going against any guideline or policy, so I'm not going to stop. If anyone has a better idea than me wasting my time merging unneeded content, I'm open to it. If someone wants to do it, at least for the D&D articles, I'm not demanding it be done the same day or even within the same month. It just needs to be done with actual consistency rather than leaving it indefinitely. TTN (talk) 23:07, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Source question
Hey BOZ! Sorry to bother you, but do you by any chance still have access to those news archive services (like NewsBank/LexisNexis)? I know it's been many, many years since I last asked, but I thought it might be worth a shot. I'm trying to find a December 10, 1998 article in the Orange County Register called something like "Violence Not Wanted; Can't We Play Nice?". It contains sales figures for the Gabriel Knight series. I've been able to find part of it online, but not enough to fill out a citation template. Thanks! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 16:36, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
I'd love to help if I can, no bother! I know that User:Torchiest and User:Paul Erik had access to sources like that in the past, but not sure if either of them does now. I do have some access at my local library, so I can probably check sometime this week. BOZ (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
I found it. It's Leslie Gornstein (December 10, 1998). "Violence not wanted: Can't we play nice?: The nonbloody adventure games preferred by female players are a dying breed", The Orange County Register, p. C01. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs)17:52, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Are you able to go through Find Sources templates too? I simply don't have enough time to go through everything at 3-4/day. It only takes maybe 5 minutes per, but that's time I don't consistently have during any particular 7-day period... Jclemens (talk) 05:41, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
I may be able to find some time to do it Jclemens, but I am also often busy, and I may have less than ideal access to sites depending on where I am logging in from. The intended effect of spamming multiple AFDs per day is to get people to "eventually tire out and stop responding", which seems like an effective enough tactic - overwhelm people who don't have as much free time in their day to effectively respond to the nominations as the nominator seems to have in creating the AFDs. BOZ (talk) 05:57, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Just to clarify, I mean that eventually people stop responding no matter what frequency, so I eventually have to stop because AfDs are being relisted three times and then end as no consensus due to not enough people. TTN (talk) 20:07, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
TTN, since these all seem to end up merge anyways, why do you bother taking them to AfD? Redirect the ones you believe to be NN, and AfD things that are un-merged without sufficient sources being added. If you want help figuring out the right merge/redirect targets, I'd much rather help with that than participate in yet another AfD. Jclemens (talk) 00:29, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
I don't mind redirecting. There are three problems: those who undo my redirects automatically because I'm me, those who undo the redirects anonymously three months later (I'm fairly convinced in the case of the D&D articles that it is an established user just logging out), and then someone (@FreeKnowledgeCreator:) who at one point undid a bunch of them and told me it was AfD or bust (or editwarring and bust but I would not win that fight). For the first, I'll just have to play that by ear. I certainly don't mind following a BRD (or BRAFD most likely) set up in the case of the someone making an honest claim of notability or an anon undoing them months later, but the third will have to agree not to wholesale revert unless there is an actual specific reason for it. TTN (talk) 01:17, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
TTN, I respectfully submit there is no good reason to complain about something I did a long time ago and might not have the least inclination to do again. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
That was only 10 or 11 months ago, so I expected little reason for it to change. But if you're fine only challenging redirects that you personally find improper, I'm fine cutting out the bulk of D&D AfDs. I won't go insane and redirect 1000 pages in a week, so I'll limit it to basically the amount of AfDs I would start on a normal day. 01:24, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
At this point, I think we've done enough that a WP:OUTCOMES entry is appropriate. I'd much rather have the history intact so that non-admins can see what might be worth either merging or fleshing out. In fact, I think I'm going to go start a discussion for one now... Jclemens (talk) 04:13, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Nice article BOZ. Maybe a few sentences in the lead about the game's release and reception would help summarise it.
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No problem. I moved it as-is, but you might want to take a thorough look at the edit-history. BOZ (talk) 04:09, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Re:Video games based on tabletop games
Hey BOZ! Thanks a ton—your work adding Dragon reviews to articles some years ago was my biggest inspiration for all this. I'll absolutely keep an eye out for sources on those games. I should have no problem adding reception details to most of them. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 20:18, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to mention that I've seen some fantastic reviews for the 1996 Risk adaptation, if you'd be interested in starting a stub for that. I could certainly provide a reception section. Noticing just now that Risk II lists no reviews, despite being well received, so I'll probably hit that next. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 04:26, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
There was also a Kingmaker (board game) adaptation that was apparently a pretty big deal, but doesn't have an article. Its Mobygames page is here. It was nominated for an award in one of my magazines, and I've seen positive reviews. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Silly me! Not only was there a Kingmaker article, but it looks like I've edited it recently. I'm not sure how I managed that. Thanks for the heads-up! I'll keep an eye out for the Risk stub. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:37, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but I had one more idea for a boardgame adaptation stub. While adding awards/reviews to articles, I noticed a boardgame adaptation series called Great Battles picking a wargame of the year nomination. They seem to be pretty obscure, but there's a Mobygames entry and they're on GOG. It seems that they're based on The Great Battles of Alexander boardgame. If you're at all interested in creating a series stub, I could easily fill out the reception with the stuff I've found—reviewers seemed to like them. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 22:40, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Oh, you're definitely not bothering me! I've recently taken a huge interest in computer adaptations of boardgames, so this is right up my alley. Many thanks for setting up that stub/redirect (I didn't even realize that GMT had an article)—I'll get to work on the reception section. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 11:06, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
I'll see what I can do! Those mid-80s games can be hard to source, but I'm sure I can find a review or two (it's an Avalon Hill game, after all). JimmyBlackwing (talk) 11:58, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Will do! And thanks for reorganizing the links—that will make it easier to keep track of the to-do list. I have big plans for the article on Diplomacy computer games (it turns out that they had a complicated history), and a lot of these new articles you added should be easy to find sources for. I'll get to work. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:53, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
This isn't quite boardgame-related, but I've been working on the article for a wargame called Robert E. Lee: Civil War General on the side lately (while still chipping away at the list). It seems to have been really successful and popular, but I haven't found many sources on it. If you have time, I'd really appreciate it if you could do a couple of searches in your news archives for this game! I feel like there's probably some coverage or at least a review in one of those old newspapers. If it helps your search, it was published by Sierra On-Line and developed by a company called Impressions. Thank you! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 22:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Awesome, thank you! Yeah, Lee is definitely a hot topic right now, although my interest in this game has more to do with its phenomenal sales (for the genre) than its subject matter. Have fun at Gen Con! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 06:36, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
Hey BOZ, many thanks for the articles! I can't wait to go through them. I'll be sure to ask Paul if he has access to the other ones you mentioned. Really appreciate this! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 03:54, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll take a look! I've been distracted by other topics on Wikipedia lately, so I haven't gotten through the other articles in as much detail as I'd hoped yet. There's still way more to find, I think. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 03:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Hero Wars redirect
Hey Boz,
That is some really good historical material you added to Hero Wars, but it still remains that the game isn't independently notable from its later editions, and for the say majority of its history (and therefore its WP:COMMONNAME) it has been known by its original intended title. So I merged that material into the HeroQuest article's history section: oknazevad (talk) 20:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, Boz. I've been having trouble for a number of years now with User:Rtkat3. I've attempted to explain to him more times than I can count how he cannot add material or trivial character information to articles without citations, and other disruptive edits, and while he usually responds positively, he continues this activity. Just do a search on his talk page for my username to see how many times this year alone I've had to tell him to stop this. Just now as I was editing The Orville article, I see that he did it again, not only adding character info to the article whose relevant significance to the character is, at best, unclear at present (we don't know if it's going to be a recurring joke/something related to a signature trait of the character, or simply a one-off gag), but placing it in between the previous information in a sentence and the citation for that sentence, thereby giving the impression that the cite supports his addition, when it does not. I was going to leave another message on his talk page about this, but then figured that doing so is having no effect. He just doesn't care. We need an administrator to step in and either block him or give him a final warning, and monitor his editing. Can you please help? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 16:09, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
In my defense about The Orville, I was doing some rearranging for parts of the plot and bios. As for my edit on Yaphit, him asking Dr. Claire Finn out on a date in episode 3 is something that was mentioned to have done in each of his visits to the sick bay. If I was to maintain that information, where would I get the Verifiability and citing sources of this and other facts about the characters? --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
You don't have to maintain that information, which was one the central points I made above. It's trivia. If, in the future, this develops into a recurring, or running gag, then you could argue that's reasonable to include it in the character bio, and in that case, if you can't find a valid secondary source to support, then you use the primary sources that I've 'been using up til now, which you can see if you look at my edits to that section. But if it doesn't develop into some type of recurring signature trait of the character, then it doesn't merit mention, since it's just a one-off gag. I believe I explicitly stated this in my edit summaries, and above.
And what's with the five public "thanks" on my edit today? Is this supposed to be some misguided attempt to use flattery to resolve this problem of yours? Nightscream (talk) 18:10, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Where do I argue for the reasonable parts? The talk pages? As for the other thing, I'm just thanking you for your edits to those pages. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
From what I have seen of Rtkat3 in the past, I have seen numerous attempts to reach out to him from other users like User:*Treker, User:Cyphoidbomb, User:Tenebrae, User:Jhenderson777, User:Doniago, among others, after reviewing his talk page from this year and 2016 alone. For what it is worth, I think he means well, but I think he has a problem with just not understanding how certain policies work (or as you are suggesting, not caring enough to bother learning how they work). I do not believe he is acting in bad faith, however at some point we have to consider that not understanding or not caring on a regular basis becomes a problem that needs to be addressed. I have observed that he is definitely passionate about adding "In other media" content to comics character articles, for example, but this does not excuse the sourcing and other issues that you bring up. BOZ (talk) 18:39, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS that I and others have been giving you on your talk page, and stop pretending you don't understand this. I left a detailed LIST OF THEM on your tp on May 20, and there are others by other editors going back years.
And don't give me that shit bullshit about “just thanking” me for those edits. You were doing no such thing. You gave five rapid-fire public thanks for my last five edits to four different articles (something I’ve never received before), including ones you have never edited, like J. Lee and Star Trek Discoveryright after I went to an administrator about the problem you’ve been to the rest of the editing community. It is embarrassing obvious that this was a shallow attempt to employ flattery in the hope that it would somehow help you evade the consequences of your trouble-making edits. Whether you are too clueless to realize this, or simply think we are, does not change this. Nightscream (talk) 16:38, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict)While I haven't felt compelled to leave Rtkat a note regarding their edits for quite some time now, I have found their editing patterns concerning, and it's especially troubling that they could be here for over a decade and continue to make the kinds of problematic edits noted above.
Ideally they will take this conversation seriously and try to be more judicious in their editing in the future. A suggestion might be that they focus for a time on only adding real-world information to articles, with appropriate sources. There's plenty of editors willing to add in-universe information to articles, appropriately or otherwise. DonIago (talk) 18:50, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I just wanted to drop in (since I was mentioned) and point out that while I have talked with Rtkat3 in the past and I recognize this as a pattern of them I can't actually remember ever having a conversaion with them about it specifically.★Trekker (talk) 20:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
I also would wish to chime in. As BOZ says, I believe Rtkat3 means well, as he generally responds positively and tries to correct his editing when I point things out to him. That said, I've been pointing the same things out to him for years, and my impression is that he will adhere to guidelines, MOS, etc. when someone calls him on it, and then simply returns to his trivia and fictography, figuring it's all fine unless he gets caught. That's a serious behavioral issues, and I'm glad it's being addressed. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:15, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
I would agree with you, Tenebrae. Though I haven't had to deal with Rtkat3 for a while because I've withdrawn from a number of articles he happened to be interested in, I feel like his abilities are limited by an unspecified roadblock be it language-based, or something else. He has traditionally had difficulty understanding community standards and differentiating between encyclopedic content and fancruft. (At least, that was largely my issue with him.) There were also weird issues like being told over and over not to wikilink to common words like dog, cat, ghost and skeleton. (While it may seem trivial, he was already an established editor of 10 years by this point and probably had about 86,000 edits under his belt.) It was always frustrating to try to explain these issues to him, only to be met with vague responses and a general feeling that he didn't really get what I was trying to explain. And yeah, I remember it being particularly vexatious that you'd tell him "Yo, this is wrong because of ___", he'd yield, and then a few days/weeks/months later sneak back in the thing you raised as problematic. Do these problems still exist? Are there other simple follow-the-rules problems that he's still having trouble with? I don't know the best way to deal with him or how to best describe my concerns without being insulting, but I think that maybe admins more specialized to cognitive or behavioral differences might be helpful here, if we know of anyone. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:09, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
So then User:Nightscream, we have some good input from other users on this situation, but the question is what to do?
I could block him for a short period of time, but to me that would seem to be pointless, as has been noted by the folks above, he tends to behave a little better for a little while, but then goes back to the same thing as before.
I could block him indefinitely, which may be a bit extreme, and he may have a good case for appealing to an unblock (which could very well backfire on me) if he can assert that he is acting in good faith.
We could take this to a wider community discussion of his behavior to see if the community wants to block him for a period of time. I have done this before, and when you have the support it usually gets the job done, although it takes more time to prepare than I really have.
We could let things go on as they have for years, with other users keeping an eye on him to police him, but this is really not workable and expects too much from other people to do the work for him that he should be doing himself. I'm certainly not going to devote my time to watching him closely, and I would not expect anyone else to do this either.
So maybe there is a solution somewhere between there that I am not thinking of? Do you think it would be reasonable to give him a final warning as you suggested originally, and if he fails to comply with this consistently within a reasonable amount of time, we would take him to a community block discussion? BOZ (talk) 16:14, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Create a list of his most commonly recurring violations, based on complaints by others. The list I provided on his talk page on May 20 would be a good place to start. Make it clear to him that this list may change dynamically if he begins committing new types of violations.
Block him for a month, and tell him that after a month, it will only be removed if he agrees to each of the specifically listed instructions, which he must name explicitly.
You, me and other members of the community can monitor his behavior. If he continues in his violations, he can be blocked for longer periods. If the lengths of the blocks require community consensus, then we can hold the necessary discussions indicated by blocking policies/guidelines. Nightscream (talk) 16:38, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, it will take me some time to review that and set it up, so ping me if you don't hear back from me soon. I'll accept other input on the issue in the meantime. BOZ (talk) 18:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi, you keep introducing Cite date errors with your edits it would be good if you could do this correct in future to stop having to mop up the errors. The problem is with the cite |date= field where you enter "February - March 2017" this should be entered without the spaces and the dash should be an en-dash like "February–March 2017" Regards Keith D (talk) 20:11, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
My lingering affection for the system notwithstanding, you've been writing scenario articles that just fall far short of any notability standards, and judging from your talk page, it's something you do a lot. Please review the GNG for a better understanding of those standards so we just don't have to start deleting them wholesale. Ravenswing 05:17, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
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I feel I should note that the version of Jennell Jaquays you have protected still lists the subject's birth name, despite the lack of any source, however insubstantial, indicating the subject's birth name. The BLP banner reads specifically, Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. While libel is not at issue here, privacy and accuracy certainly are. Pawsplay (talk) 03:41, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm not expecting to debate the name issue, but because you specifically and others were edit-warring, I felt that full protection was necessary. Consensus should always be sought on a talk page, not through edit-warring. Since multiple users were involved in edit-warring, I felt it was better to protect the page rather than issue warnings to those involved. BOZ (talk) 16:10, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
The issue at hand seems to be heading toward some kind of resolution. But consensus does not have to reached before removing content that is violation of Wikipedia's policies. But thank you for replying. Pawsplay (talk) 00:06, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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DGG are articles now supposed to spring, fully formed, into mainspace? This article was a day old; what prompted the rapid PROD, as opposed to simply tagging the article with refimprove? Jclemens (talk) 23:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Jclemens, a prod is designed specifically to provide time for improvement,as has indeed happened. Whether the ones added are sufficiently substantial and reliably sourced reviews is outside my field. DGG ( talk ) 05:01, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
DGG the key element of the PROD process is its unopposed/uncontroversial nature. While the "time for improvement" aspect is true, that also applies to simple tagging. By placing a PROD on article created by an established contributor, admin at that, roughly a day after initial creation, that could easily be construed as a vote of no confidence in the editor, which I'm pretty sure isn't what you were going for. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 18:34, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
the uncontroversial nature is enforced by letting anyone remove the prod.
When judging articles, I judge article, not editors. I deliberately pay no attention at first to who introduced it. If the nature is such that I suspect commercial COI, only then then do I look. And I make no assumption that anyone, including myself, would really be free from COI, such as the COI of a fan. No admin or anyone else is a fair judge of their own content contributions. DGG ( talk ) 02:34, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Seriously? Is it necessary that all these D&D expansion packs from the 1970's have their own article? All these should just be redirects to Judges Guild
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Happy editing, TriiipleThreat (talk) 01:09, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
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Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.
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I found some sources and have suggested to the nominator we try to end the process and accomplish the move asap, the book soon getting mega pageviews. Objections? BusterD (talk) 20:30, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi BOZ, could I ask you to use more paraphrasing in your review additions to RPG materials articles? It is usually not suggested to quote multiple sentences or paragraphs of material that can be easily paraphrased into a short summary. I'd suggest one summary sentence in your voice, followed by one direct quote for the review's own summary. Cheers! --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:27, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
To quote Monty Python, "It's a bit late for that!" Good to hear from you though. :) I don't have access to a ton of sources, but a very helpful user I know is Paul Erik, and he might be able to find something for you? BOZ (talk) 02:00, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Hey BOZ! I ended up dropping off Wikipedia for a few months again, as is my habit, but I've recently gotten back in to editing. My project for the last few days has been adding sales and award information to BioWare games, including all their D&D stuff (like here and here). However, I'm having trouble locating a newspaper source for Jade Empire, and I was wondering if you had access to it via your news databases. It's an article from the Edmonton Journal called "Game giant buys out BioWare", published on October 12, 2007. There's an incomplete version online here, but it isn't archivable and it's missing some information, including the author. If you have time, I'd really appreciate it if you could check for this source. Thanks a ton. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:16, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, you are in luck! I do happen to have an extra day this week to do some research, so I will take a look at the library on Thursday evening and see what I can find. :) BOZ (talk) 16:30, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
You are definitely in luck! I was able to get to it today and I found the full text, and it is about to be on your way. It does not include author information, unfortunately. BOZ (talk) 02:11, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Huge thanks! Looks like they printed this one anonymously, for some reason. I'll get this added to the article ASAP. Really appreciate it! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 02:25, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good! Thanks for cleaning up that thing—some of the mistakes on that page are probably mine, when I filled out the last empty slots in 2014. I inherited quite a few Next Gens from Mitaphane when he retired (although they're in storage right now). Fortunately, most of them are in the Internet Archive these days, so I'm usually able to access them when necessary—they're super helpful in my drive-by review section additions. I also know that Martin IIIa has done phenomenal work trawling through Next Gen's archives and adding stuff from them to articles. Glad to have you on board the Next Gen train! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 17:18, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Awesome! And I see you did Armored Fist—I can guarantee sources for that one, at the very least. NovaLogic's Armored Fist franchise was (to my knowledge) the biggest tank sim series of the 1990s. I'll see if I have anything to expand it. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 12:02, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Hey BOZ! No worries, you got it right—I think U.S. Navy Fighters was the very first Jane's game. Glad to see it finally has an article! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 01:59, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Awesome work. I've been digging into Next Generation stuff myself the last few days—their website has turned out to be a treasure trove! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 13:21, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Hey! I thought I recognized your handiwork on that article. It's always a lot of fun to see awards go to these obscure games. Thanks for getting that article made—otherwise, I wouldn't have had anywhere to put the award! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 13:30, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Glad to hear they've mostly survived so far! As for the Yu Yu Hakusho article, I didn't know of anything offhand (the 3DO is an enigma to me), but I was able to find a review of the game in GameFan. It seems to be a fairly obscure one, and Japan-only at that, but I wouldn't rule out material buried in other English magazines. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 13:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC
Laura Roslof recently died. (April 2, 2018) She was the wife of Jim Roslof, was also in the TSR Art Department, and she was the creator of the "S&M" piece of art that got the "orange" Palace of the Silver Princess recalled and land-filled. I wrote a wiki for her based on this. It was instantly nominated for deletion. She was a staff artist, but other than the notariety gained from that one piece of art, was admittedly not one of the standout members of the art department like Erol Otus or her husband. Worth fighting for or no? Guinness323 (talk) 23:13, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
It looks fairly stable right now, but if people do start vandalizing it, I can put a temporary protection on the article. BOZ (talk) 04:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. If you could cite the "Legacy" section, even as a re-use, that'd be good. Otherwise, it looks fine, besides the fact that it's a bit short. Obviously, not much we can do about that.
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I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Expansion of the infobox, if at all possible, would be good for the page.
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Hi, BOZ. Can you put a restriction for registered users only on Joey Diaz, and for a substantial time length? It's been the target of constant uncited info for some time now. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 05:16, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
BOZ, can you please put a long block on Joey Diaz? As I indicated above, a three-day block isn't going to do anything, because the person or persons who keeps adding uncited information does so every few days or so, and has returned to do so now that your three-day block has expired. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 13:50, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
You might want to take that up at WP:RFP to get more admin eyes on it, where it will be better documented in case this user continues to be disruptive. BOZ (talk) 20:42, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
C'mon, BOZ, don't make me go through the wiki-bureaucracy. It's within your power to put a lengthy protection on pages, just as I did when I was an admin. Please don't make me go through the labyrinthine process of figuring out how to use yet another resource with its own templates, which people to talk to, etc. Help a guy out. Nightscream (talk) 15:59, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
If someone gets the idea that I'm your personal go-to admin for disputes that you're involved in, that could lead to trouble for both of us. That's why I'm suggesting getting a neutral admin involved. I don't mind helping out here and there, but except in more extreme circumstances it would be better to reach out to the admin core for longer article protections or blocks when they are needed. I try to use those things sparingly, as I am more of a content-creator than a wiki-cop. BOZ (talk) 16:13, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
No one would ever get any such idea, since the fact that uncited material is being constantly added to the article every single day, is undisputable, and its status as a policy violation completely unambiguous. No one would have any basis to argue non-neutrality. So now I'm literally placed in the position of having to revert whoever this several times a week. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 14:38, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Spider-Man (Miles Morales)
Thanks for putting that block on Joe Diaz. I'll have much less work reverting the inappropriate edits on it. Can you also put one on Spider-Man (Miles Morales)? That's the other article on my Watchlist that continues to be persistently targeted for vandalism, uncited info, non-constructive edits, etc. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 18:40, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
I don't see too much going on with that one right now, at least not anything more than what you see on just about every other popular character. BOZ (talk) 18:43, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Definitely interesting. I did a quick Google search to see if anyone else has made the connection, but wasn't able to find anything, even in his obituaries. Singleton was a very big deal thanks to games like Lords of Midnight, so it's possible that a lost print source covered Starlord's history. Great find regarding the PBM version—I note that a publication called The Gamer reviewed it in 1981, although I'm not familiar with this magazine. Possibly a lead, though! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 02:19, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
I'll be sure to keep an eye out. This one has never been on my radar, but it'll stand out to me now, especially because of the Lords of Midnight connection. Thanks for the tip! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 02:24, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Nickyjamelcangri7873215640, BOZ did not remove that content. Look again. Since you chose to start by abusing other editors here, I'll have a closer look at what you're doing here. Also, it's "moron" with one r. Drmies (talk) 01:16, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. More sourcing establishing notability for this article would be useful. Per my BEFORE I am uncertain this would pass an AfD.
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Hi, I'm PRehse. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Grand Master of the Martial Arts, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
It may have been an unreleased game, then. The game was definitely developed at least, since we have sources to show, but the game could have gone unpublished. BOZ (talk) 17:16, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I can't say either way. Other sources give it a US Aug 1995 release and no mention of a JP release. I'm thinking at least it wasn't released in Japan. We would need an RS to say either way. Typically publishers or devs will list release dates on their site. Harizotoh9 (talk) 17:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Obscure game sources:
Japanese sites are a good sources if it got a JP release. 4Gamer, dengekionline, and Famitsu are good starting places. Famitsu has a game database archive of most if not all the games covered by the mag, including review scores and release data. If you combine a few JP pages, with western gaming magazines, it can go a long way to establish notability. For instance, I added a Famitsu review score to Mazinger Z (video game).
If anything pops up, I will add it! That is not my area of specality, but I do get something every once in a while. BOZ (talk) 16:39, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does this discussion seem to be somewhat procedurally irregular? Relisted 3 times, open 25 days, and initially nominated by the closer of the previous deletion which merged a large chunk of text to the current article?Vulcan's Forge (talk) 01:57, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm going to agree with you there. It's almost like no one wants to close it as "keep" or "no consensus" so they just leave it for the next person. BOZ (talk) 02:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Help to rename these articles!
Hi! Sorry if i am bothering you but i need help in renaming these articles (a.k.a. move them). I don't know if you can but it would be cool if you can, those being: Checkered Flag (Checkered Flag (1994 video game) => Checkered Flag (Atari Jaguar game)) & Breakout 2000 (Breakout 2000 (video game) => Breakout 2000). Do The Math (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I moved the 1991 version of the game to fix my move error; was there more than one version of the game published in 1994 that this one needs to be disambiguated against? BOZ (talk) 18:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
OK, I see what you mean at the Checkered Flag disambiguation page; the 1991 and 1994 games are spelled with a CK, and two other games (from 1983 and 1988) are spelled with a QU. BOZ (talk) 19:34, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Hey man, i hope you're doing well! Look, sorry for bothering you but can you try to rename this image file 1 to this?: Black Ice, White Noise cover art
Thanks and i'll try to help in regards to infoboxes and cover arts :) Do The Math (talk) 09:23, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
KGRAMR, let me put it to you this way - never feel like you're bothering me for help in simple stuff like moving pages, I don't mind at all. :) I feel like I am bothering you a lot more by asking for infobox and cover images all the time! LOL So how's that? BOZ (talk) 14:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
@BOZ: Thanks man! Hey, can you try to rename this file from (File:3DO NeuroDancer - Journey Into the Neuronet!.jpg) to (File:3DO NeuroDancer - Journey Into the Neuronet! cover art.jpg)? Thanks as always :) Do The Math (talk) 02:33, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
@BOZ: Here's the very last three that need to be renamed. And thanks as always man!: File:JAG I-War-Netwar.png => File:JAG I-War (Netwar).png, ARC Gorf gameplay.png => ARC Gorf (Astro Battles).png and JAG Thea Realm Fighters.png => JAG-JAGCD Thea Realm Fighters.png Do The Math (talk) 13:49, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
@BOZ: Hi! I want to say thanks for moving the files i pinpointed you to move but here's one more and i'm done: (File:The Super Spy flyer.png => File:The Super Spy arcade flyer.png) I'll try to see if i can ask for rights in regards to move and rename files here. Have a nice day! Do The Math (talk) 22:44, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
@BOZ: Hi man! Sorry if i'm bothering you once again in regards to this subject but can you try to rename this file into this: File:NEOGEO Blue's Journey.png => File:NEOGEO Blue's Journey (Raguy).png Also, do you need help in finding reviews for games that you've added? Make a section on my talk page requesting which ones do you need the most and i'll see what i can do! Roberth Martinez (talk) 03:10, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
No worries at all! I don't mind helping. And thanks for the offer, I will take a look and see what games are most in need. :) BOZ (talk) 03:38, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
@BOZ:I got another one for you and I bet you have never heard of its existence before: Jaguar Bomberman (video game) => Jaguar Bomberman. Yup, there was a Bomberman title in development for the Jaguar that never saw the light of day, which really hurts as a fan of the system. Have a good day! Roberth Martinez (talk) 04:18, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Nope, can't say I was aware of that! Although I get the feeling that a lot of Jaguar projects appear to have been in development when Atari cancelled the system. BOZ (talk) 04:52, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
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Repeated additions of uncited material by an editor
Hi, BOZ. I'm having trouble with SuperiorMalkom, who persistently adds uncited (and incoherently-written) material to comics articles. As you can see on his talk page, I tried talking to him about this twice], and he just did it again a third time.
There are also messages by other comics article editors mentioning other problems as well, but it does not appear from his Contributions history that responds to any of these, since the only edit he has made to a talk page was a non-interactive October 23 opinion he left on the Eddie Brock tp.
Hi. I have once talked to SuperiorMalkom about the edit he did on the same page where I had Nightscream's back to clear up the Miles Morales and Spider-Gwen fact where it was their Earth-8 counterparts that are married and not a crossover. I'm just letting you know about my discussion with him. --Rtkat3 (talk) 16:47, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Doesn't look too bad, just recently and a bit of edit warring. I've semi-protected for three days, but if they come back afterwards I can make it longer. Doesn't seem to be a long history in this case, unless I am missing something. BOZ (talk) 14:25, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey Boz, Nightscream told me that you are great at protecting pages. There's something going at Spider-Man page between Pinky Rhino and someone else. Please can you fix this. Penguin7812 (talk) 21:14, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Interesting! :) I did notice that article after you worked on Adventure in Time. I get the feeling that there has been more than one company by the same name as Phoenix Software. BOZ (talk) 13:27, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I'm thinking that the image for Adventureland should be replaced with the first actual cover rather than the 1982 SAGA release, but I'm wondering if all the first twelve articles could support another non-infobox image to represent the SAGA re-releases - adding graphics almost makes them an entirely new game. --tronvillain (talk) 04:56, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I have long thought that Adventureland (video game) ought to have the original cover on it (video game articles, like books, ought to include the earliest possible cover), although the cover it has always had is so pretty I don't really want to remove it either. ;) Same thing with Voodoo Castle about needing the original cover (and sources, badly!) BOZ (talk) 12:25, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
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Not sure. Long-term blocks against school IP addresses are discouraged, if I am not mistaken. Might be better to report to WP:AIV and let someone more familiar with that procedure review the situation. BOZ (talk) 06:24, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Re:Wargames
Hey BOZ! Thanks for all the hard work—you've covered a ton of valuable ground here. Wargames are a big interest of mine, too (I wrote Close Combat in the last couple years), so I appreciate your showing me these. From your list, I was particularly interested in D-Day: America Invades and American Civil War: From Sumter to Appomattox, which have shown up in a lot of my past research. I'll watchlist those two and see if I can find time to add material to them, because I've definitely got a decent chunk of it lying around. I appreciate the tip! JimmyBlackwing (talk)
As an aside, let me know if you ever toss up pages for Atomic's first two World at War games before D-Day—Operation Crusader and Stalingrad. I've got plenty of sources for both of those, and a fair amount of interest in them as research subjects! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:20, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
There's a really surprising number of great sources for these two, given the time period and obscurity of the games. Atomic Games is one of my favorite subjects to research, so I feel like I might get inspired to do some major work on their development sections. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:56, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Great work! Kampfgruppe in particular has needed a Wikipedia article for years. It was CGW's first-ever game of the year! I'll have a look at adding some sources. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:30, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for all the help improving WPVG's wargame coverage! This newest batch doesn't have any that immediately jump out to me (only Tigers on the Prowl has really crossed my research path before), but there's a lot more that I still plan to do on the World at War games and American Civil War. I'll be sure to add more to Kampfgruppe whenever I run across material as well. Let me know if you find any more classic wargames that don't have articles yet! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 02:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that with Kampfgruppe, but I had no idea it was a wider thing on the French Wikipedia. It's strange—I didn't realize the hobby extended much beyond North America! Hopefully they can provide a roadmap for some of our articles going forward. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 13:41, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi. It's been a long time, I think, since we've spoken. I hope everything is going well. Years ago, you participated in some of the initiatives intended to resolve the problem of a serial policy violator. For some time now, I've been having trouble with an editor who's been exhibiting similar persistent behavior, and he seems to be escalating. I could really use your help. I've outlined the evidence of his behavior here. A summary list of his behavior is located near the bottom of that post, beneath the heading "Summary", in case you want to read that first. If you could offer your objective opinion on that evidence, I would appreciate it. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 02:26, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
I don't think it's been that long since we spoke - probably earlier this month, or at the least last month, but I was too lazy to scroll back up on my talk page and check. ;) Things are going well, today being my birthday and a day off work, so I will definitely have some time to work on articles later today. :) I would be happy to take a look. BOZ (talk) 14:39, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
When I first saw that we had a separate article for Iron Man in the MCU, I thought that was kind of unnecessary to have a whole article about a single adaptation of one character. But then when I saw that there was also one created for Captain America, and now that you have pointed out to me that we have ones for Thor and Hulk as well, I would say that we can probably allow the "four main Avengers" (or at least, Shelly, Cap, and Thor) to have them, as they have all had multiple feature films of their own over the past decade, and appeared in the Avengers-team movies, and guest starred in each others films as well. That said, I think you have more than enough going on to retain Thor in the mainspace, and to support Cap being in the mainspace. The Hulk article needs more muscle (heh) and certainly with an empty reception section that is part of the problem. Reviews of the films would be one source I would expect to find useful commentary on the characters. Meanwhile, I submitted the Cap article for independent review, so that someone else can check to see if it is good enough for mainspace at this time. BOZ (talk) 15:07, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi, BOZ. Penguin7812 has been persisting in changing a passage in the Miles Morales article that discusses other versions of the character. Here are our reverts with edit summaries: [26], [27], [28], [29].
Note that he gives as his rationale that Gwen's visit to that alternate universe occurred, in his words, "In story which I read", rather than the sources cited at the end of the passages. Of those two sources, one is a primary source (the first issue of the storyline in question), and the second is a secondary source. The end of that issue that is cited first, which shows Miles, not Gwen, traveling to the universe in question. Since the article is about Miles, this makes this all the more appropriate. Despite this, he insists on changing it to Gwen, even though she isn't the person who discovers that universe in that issue. She may eventually join Miles there in another issue, but so what? The article isn't about her, and this isn't supported by the cite. When I try to explain this to him, Penguin arrogantly tells me "Go read comics." Even though I'm the one who single-handed got that article to GA status, and even though I cite the comics that support the material I had, he has the temerity to say stuff like this. And in his last revert, he offered no rationale, saying nothing in his edit summary. Please advise. Nightscream (talk) 18:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
This was the same article that you were having trouble with the now-indefinitely blocked User:SuperiorMalkom, right? I would hate to think that he could still be sockpuppeting, but he was blocked on November 8, and I see that Penguin7812 made their first edit a few days later, on November 11. I was hoping that was a coincidence, but if we are starting to see WP:DUCK behavior, I am wondering if we should pay Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SuperiorMalkom another visit or am I being too hasty? BOZ (talk) 01:49, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I'm sorry about the inconvenience. Look I'm not SuperiorMalkom. I just saw Comicstorian's video on YouTube on this event. I didn't know about the sources. I was doing what I was thinking it was right. I'm sorry about what happened. Penguin7812 (talk) 06:46, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
@Penguin7812: I understand. Going forward, please understand that Wikipedia has policies related to this, like WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:CS, et al. I never would have been able to get that article up to Good article status had I not adhered to them. Thanks for understanding.
If you ever have any other questions about editing, or need help regarding the site's policies, just let me know by leaving a message for me in a new section at the bottom of my talk page. Happy Holidays! Nightscream (talk) 04:59, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you too for understanding me. I promise I won't do a similar thing ever again. I don't want to upset people. I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. :D :) ;) Penguin7812 (talk) 06:24, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Merry Merry
Happy Christmas!
Hello BOZ,
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that
Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"
My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk07:59, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your message and feel free to use English for the next one.
I’m not quite sure of my understanding of your message (because of the poor job of Google Translate) but FYI, I check on a regular basis the New Article section of WP:VG to keep track of the new articles this topic. As a result, I don’t really need the list you propose but feel free to keep me updated on your work. On another subject, please note that Galaxy (video game) and Galactic Empires (video game) are actually the same game as explained by Tom Cleaver in his Designer’s Notes in Computer Gaming World vol. 2, n°1 (p13-15). Hipo.dingo (talk) 13:49, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
OK! Will do. I already started working on it, so I might as well finish. :) I will leave off anything that already has a French version, and I will use English instead of Google Translate. BOZ (talk) 15:08, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
AFD
Just letting you know that I am trying to save an article I created by AFD. So I might not have time for the draft article for the moment. But I will return eventually. Jhenderson77705:52, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
There's no rush; you typically have six months to work on a draft before anyone tries to delete it. :) Go on and save The City of Townsville! BOZ (talk) 13:33, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Re:Merry Christmas
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You too, buddy! And yes, I celebrate Christmas. I'm an atheist, but I still love getting gifts to my younger cousins, nephews, nieces, etc.
However, I don't celebrate New Year's.
For me, it's still Year 1. Which means a year is the equivalent of over 2,000 of your years.
Thanks for the holiday wishes, BOZ. Merry Christmas to you as well. Hoping all's well on-wiki and in real life for you. There's too many other things going on in my life (most of them good) for me to spend any serious time as a contributor here anymore, but I do recall those days as being fun ones, even in spite of the trolls we had to keep swatting away. ;)
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Hi BOZ, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your help and thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia,
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!
Hello BOZ, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019. Happy editing, TriiipleThreat (talk) 23:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
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Tuck into this! We've made about three of these in the last few days for various festivities. Supermarkets are stuffed with cheap berries. Season's greetings! Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 22:02, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hey there. I see you're adding the Category:Call of Cthulhu (role-playing game) to various articles. Unfortunately the category is not valid for the majority of those articles. You see Category:Call of Cthulhu (role-playing game) is a subcategory of Category:Chaosium games which is for games published by Chaosium. As a result all subcategories must also be published by Chaosium. Since a lot of the games you're adding the category to are not published by Chaosium, the category is invalid. Additionally many of them are not role-playing games, such as Arkham Horror etc.
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