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User talk:Asher196/Archive 1
Assistance PleaseAs Sam Spade said in the Maltese Falcon, "you are clearly a man of nice resources". Furthermore, as any sane person would, you have concluded that so-called global warming is political, not scientific. Finally, you appear to be from Michigan, which certainly implies an almost God-like quality (I grew up in the Irish Hills). In short my friend, I need your help with Wiki Markup as regards a Lakes Project which you have visited before. Despite violent attacks on the Paudash Lake INFOBOX I have been unable to restore the standard and approved RESIDENCE TIME and FROZEN catagories that someone removed from the Box. Would you go there, at your conveniance, and restore these catorgories and then I will fill them out. Thank you! I appreciate your Light House efforts. How about doing some of our better lakes in Michigan? Thank you from your kind assistance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.209.115.34 (talk) 05:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
A word of friendly adviceHey, I just wanted to say that even though I agree 100% with what you are saying/doing on Nintendo GameCube to combat Mega Man 5 and his sockpuppet, you may want to look at your methods of pursuing your goals. This isn't about beating Mega Man 5 in an edit war, it's about making Wikipedia better, and I would like to recommend that you tone down your comments somewhat. Also, I have been speaking to the admin who protected the page and he seems to be supportive of your/our position. (see User talk:Jj137#Protected Nintendo GameCube) Here's to an end to this conflict when Nintendo GameCube goes "live" again. Regards, Thingg (talk) 04:01, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Popular CultureI noticed you reverted my edit in the Popular Culture section of the Pac-Man article. In case you don't know, this is no lie. I've seen that particular episode which is why I think it should be mentioned. Again, if you still disbelieve, maybe you should have a look at it. 61.9.126.41 (talk) 06:20, 14 January 2008 (UTC) If you want to include it in the article, then maybe YOU should look into it and provide references. Every item in that section is footnoted.-----Asher196 (talk) 06:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC) Happy to return the favor. Nice box and picture. Kind of bare, but I'm sure I can help. Happy ot return the favor. BTW, take a look at Point Betsie Light, if you haven't already. I took it up several notches. It could use more substantive article, but all the internet sources are there, I think. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Stan
See what you can do by way of copy edit, etc. The new article that I cited to is really a nice source, very complementary to the info in Terry Pepper. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 17:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC) Stan
Dear Asher 196 I don't know if you can help, but the coordinates for the county are on a peculiar place on the page. Not sure if you're teh right person to address this problem to. In any event, if you can help, Thanks. 7&6=thirteen 7&6=thirteen (talk) 13:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Stan
Wendy Smith, and your request for helpHi Asher! I've looked at the article, and have to admit I laughed out loud. No, we can't do that, i.e. "cite" other Wikipedia articles. I've never, in four years on the project, seen anyone do exactly that--put in inline cites to other Wikipedia articles--that are themselves completely unreferenced! So those cites should come out and other should be found ... or the article tagged as unreferenced and as original research. Regarding TV episode articles, there's a lot of original research on Wikipedia, at least in the sense that people are writing up plot outlines just by watching the show. Since I don't work on TV show episode articles I really don't know if any special conventions have been developed, but I would suggest looking around to see what sources other cited TV episodes use -- hopefully you can find some -- then tagging completely uncited articles with the "unreferenced" tag. Maybe you can help find some reliable sources for some ... I know a lot of editors take a dim view of people just slapping on the tags without helping out with the hard work of citing. Hope this helps ... Antandrus (talk) 03:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC) Thank you for the input. I thought something was wrong, but the boldness of it made me think I was missing something!Asher196 (talk) 03:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC) Normally and this has been working lately, AFD's are closed generally within 5 or 6 days when there is enough discussion and even when there is no consensus. I've seen no consensus for deletion at least although some of the keepers suggested some form of merging. Another option is the DRV. Closing the AFD's as no consensus or keep does not mean that merging options are shelved or not considered, merging proposals can be discussed here if necessary. Considering the sources are rather weak, merging might be a good option there--JForget 20:30, 21 January 2008 (UTC) Wii editConcerning your recent edit to the article: the next time you're "not sure" about another person's edit, please ask. Thank you. Just64helpin (talk) 19:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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Your Acupuncture editYou reverted a good edit on this page. Would you be so kind as to explain your reasons on the acupuncture talk page. Thank you. Mccready (talk) 05:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Saw your work edit on the Folk Nation can you do the same for the People NationHey i noticed that you edited the Folk Nation and added accurate sources can you do the same for the People Nation seeing it as they both go hand in hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.248.13 (talk) 09:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. BTW, I've noticed your work and you're doing a lot of good. I was wondering if the particular ski jump (Suicide Hill in Ishpeming, Michigan) I had added deserved its own article. It really is important, notwithstanding the opinion of some others. Take a look at the link I provided. I'm sure there is more information if one googles it. BTW, I would appreciate it if you would take a look at Tawas Point Light. I think there are some issues that you do (info boxes) that could use your assistance. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)Stan
Both needs an information box, etc. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)Stan
Asher: New article. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)Stan
Here's another one. Thanks in advance. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 21:16, 21 February 2008 (UTC)Stan
Built this up. It needs a box. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 05:56, 23 February 2008 (UTC)Stan
A requestI am working on a website for the Junior League of Saginaw Valley and found your picture of Bay City at dusk. The license information says it is free to use, but we would like to give you credit. Can you provide your real name? If you prefer, you can fill out the contact us form at jlsv.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Entrecon (talk • contribs) 01:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC) Sean HannityYour insistence on removing perfectly sourced material from Sean Hannity is unjustifiable and smacks of a desire to censor. From WP:NPOV:
If you dislike the POV of the material added from verifiable quality sources I added, the solution is to find quality sources that assert a contrary POV and add the material, not simply remove cited material. This is what collaboration is all about. FYI, I found no positive reviews written of the book via searching the EBSCO academic database or I would have added some, but feel free to search other quality sources. 74.233.157.109 (talk) 01:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm not here to defend Hannity. I've found that many of the articles that involve controversial people tend to become articles about the controversy and not the person. Every thing they say or do that someone feels is controversial is added to the article making it unwieldy and non-biographical in my opinion. Can you imagine how long these type of articles would become over the course of time unless someone reigns in the POV and tries to make the article adhere to Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons?----Asher196 (talk) 02:24, 25 March 2008 (UTC) I'm finding your reverts more than a little arbitrary, if not abusive. Since when is The Nation not a reliable source. In stead of wholesale deletions, I suggest you try editing the article. Jimintheatl (talk) 21:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC) I am not going to undo again, but will refer this. Jimintheatl (talk) 21:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC) RevertSorry about reverting your changes to the Sandwich article; the tool I was using tagged it as vandalism (when you were reverting vandalism). Sorry about that! Best regards, Midorihana~いいですね? はい! 04:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Needs an info box. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 13:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Stan
improving Nintendo GameCube to Featured Article statusI am working on improving Nintendo GameCube to Featured Article status, and noticed that you made a substantial number of contributions to the article recently. If you have time, please help out by improving the article. Thanks! Gary King (talk) 16:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC) John Glenn High School (Bay City, MI) A tag has been placed on John Glenn High School (Bay City, MI), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template The only reason I put up for deletion again is because you said "I'll work on it more this week," and eight days (now ten days) later, you haven't touched it. It's just two sentences sitting there for no reason. kkarma 00:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC) You should have mentioned in the talk page of the article that you were waiting for information. I wasn't trying to target your article, and maybe I do have too high of standard for Wikipedia articles. I just want Wikipedia to be the best that it can be. Good luck on your article. kkarma 05:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC) UpdateI've noticed that you still haven't touched the article, so I was going to try to fix it up myself (or at least make it a proper stub). In trying to do so, I have found that there is a different address listed (here, and here) than in the article. I did a Google Map search, and found that the two high schools are approx. 110 miles from each other. In discovering that, I find it very hard to find any reliable references that could be used in the article. If you could help direct me towards a few reliable (especially third-party) resources, it would be extremely helpful. Thank you, kkarma 18:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Image copyright problem with Image:Tylerperry.jpgThank you for uploading Image:Tylerperry.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. —Bkell (talk) 04:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC) Removal of links by Wikistalking administratorsDear Asher: Removal of links by HU12 and Barek was because they claimed it was "spam" which I contested. See discussion at Marquette, Michigan. They then Wikistalked me and systematically started removing whole pages that I had worked on. Take a look at my Talk page, and the page of BKConrad. I quit. But meanwhile, I want these peoples' administrative privileges removed, as they have shown they do not deserve trust. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 10:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Stan
Wikistalkers by erstwhile administrators deserve severe sanctionsI have been wikistalked by an administrator Hu12 and his coconspirator, Barek. The dispute arose because I had put in a link to a Central Michigan University timeline on lighthouses in Michigan in an article on Marquette, Michigan the link was perfectly appropriate, and was not a commercial site or spam. I received a note from Barek saying he had deleted the link on the Discussion page. I told him it was a perfectly fine link and that his action was ill-advised. The next thing I knew, Hu12 intervened. The two of them started Wikistalking me together, removing not just the link, but removing the link from every page where I had put it. Additionally, they started doing blind "Undos" and obliterating large portions of articles that I had contributed. There was no reason for any of this. When I protested their course of action, they suspended my editing privileges. This was done precipitously. BK Conrad has investigated this matter, and deems the blind edits to be 'unfortunate.' I complained to BK Conrad, an administrator. He undid the suspension, but did not deal with my substantive complaint about this administrator. He suggested that I could contact you. I would also add that Hu12 deleted my complaints to him from his talk page (I put them back), and has now (conveniently) archived the pages. Additionally, one of my correspondents, Asher196, had noted in the history section of an article that the deletion was unwarranted. I contacted him and reported the Wikistalking. Indeed, what you will uncover, should you choose to look, is that Hu12 and Barker were engaged in wholesale eradication of my contribution from articles, sometimes to the point where the article virtually disappeared. There was no excuse for this. It is the very definition of Wikistalking. As I said, when I protested this, I was suspended. I have done a whole lot of editing here. -- Many thousands of edits. I have never before been accused of spamming the system. I wasn't doing this here, either. While I agree with BK that it would be best if I could just avoid these bullies, the matter is not so easily resolved. They sought me out. They attacked me. They abused their administrative privileges. While I could turn a blind eye to this, it will only encourage this untoward behavior. When Czeckoslovakia falls, Poland can't be far behind. Someone needs to report this and stop this untoward and unspeakable behavior. Based on my reading of Hu12's talk page (before it disappeared), the man has attitude problems that have surfaced before. Wikistalking by administrators will frustrate the contributors, and cause them to quit Wikipedia. They've already done that to me. Let there not be a repetition. The very lifeblood of your organization is at stake. I have attacked copies of my correspondence to and from BK Conrad and Asher196. If you need further information, please advise. I will send this to Asher196 and BKConrad, so they are informed of my complaint. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 17:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Stan BK: Thank you. However, this has soured me, and I will cure myself of my wikiaholic behavior. I quit. They've achieved their victory, and Wiki will lose my modest contributions. That being said, I think you should look close at what they edited, and come to your own conclusion. They gutted whole articles. This was WIKISTALKING and they went FAR beyond what they complained about. This was search and destroy, pure, simple and unvarnished. It was a clear abuse of power. I will not abide an abuse of power, and will not let this rest without their being brought to justice -- they are bullies, and this was wrong. I for one would not stand silently and idly by while the Wehrmacht makes the Jews disappear into the railroad cars. Moreover, their actions showed an intent (and attempt) to bully me into silence about their misconduct. It was a cover up. Accountability in this system is important. Those who abuse their powers do not deserve to be trusted to hold the reins. They deserve the severest sanctions, and should be stripped of administrative privileges. What they did here was very destructive of the goals of an organization that depends on the good will and volunteer efforts of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 10:10, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Stan Coincidentally, Hu12 chose this interregnum of completely delete (archive) his user talk. This is after he was unmaking history and deleting my accusations of misconduct, which I put back on his page This is a Watergate style cover up. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 10:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Stan I would just like to make a stand with 7&6=thirteen. I can't believe these "admins" treated him this way. He is a dedicated and prolific Wikipedia editor, and has done tremendous work on many articles. Trying to add a link which provides valuable information, he is labeled a spammer. Trying to defend his actions, he is blocked. What are we doing here if this is how the good guys are treated?----Asher196 (talk) 11:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC) Hi, I'm sorry about the situation. If you'd like to file a complaint about Hu12, the place to do that is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Hu12's block of you was precipitous and the blind reverts unwarranted. However you did accuse him of being a sock puppet and make what could be interpreted as a vague threat. I might note that Hu12 consistently archives talk page messages -- although this is an annoying practice, it is not prohibited and it is not necessarily evidence that the user was trying to cover up anything. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, including editors with limited social skills. Unless their behavior clearly crosses the line and becomes disruptive, it is best to simply avoid engaging with such persons. older ≠ wiser 12:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC) If there is already an article, I'd be happy to help. If not, please start up the article and I'll add ot it. I'm about to get on that long-awaited plane, so I won't be able to get to it till the morning light. If you go to terrypepper.com and then look up the lighthouse you want, you'll have a really good start. The Clark Historical Library (Central Michigan University) has the website (heh-heh, isn't this ironic -- sorry, but I couldn't resist) that includes the chronology, list of resources (including books, manuscripts, etc.) They may have specific stuff on the Marquette Harbor Light. That will get you started. You also have to decide whether to call it the Marquette Light, Marquette Lighthouse, Marquette Light Station, etc., since there doesn't appear to be a Marquette Harbor Light article. See the discussion at the List of U.S. lighthouses. Have fun Sweet dreams. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC) Stan In any event, you know where to fine the link to the CMU lighthouse article. See for example Charity Island Light. Oh, alright, here it is again TAke a quick look at this, which expresshy refernces the light: http://clarke.cmich.edu/lighthouses/lhtime1.htm Clarke Historical Library - Sources Regarding the Lighthouses of ... Marquette, MI: Northern Michigan University Press, 1979. Penrose, Laurie. A Traveler's Guide to Eastern Great Lakes Lighthouses. ... clarke.cmich.edu/lighthouses/lhsour1.htm - 15k - Cached - Similar pages Clarke Historical Library - A Light House Keeper's Life Granite Island (11 miles north of Marquette) Light constructed. .... Big Bay Point (24 miles northwest of Marquette) Light constructed. Sault Ste. ... clarke.cmich.edu/lighthouses/lhtime1.htm - 56k - Cached - Similar pages 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
As you've been there, I'm sure you noted the lack of a picture. This article REALLY needs a pciture. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 20:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
I was wondering if the original image would look better if it were on the left side? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
As you have done in the past, please help with this new article. i will put in some more material by the end of the day. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen
7&6=thirteen (talk) 17:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
I take it that since it is on the NPS website, it's OK to use? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
If there was an info box on the lighthouse (not sure there was) it's gone now. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC) Stan I'm sure this article could benefit from your special skills and expertise. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
Apparently you have some ability to fix the classifications of articles. I don't really think that this is STUB, and it could be fairly classed as START at least. It has those stub things on them (I may have put them there), but I think they are wrong. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 20:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
Needs an infobox. Also needs correction on National Historic Register banner. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Stan Needs an infobox. Needs more info on the light itself. That's at Terry Pepper, which is listed now as an external link.----Stan
Needs a better infobox. Thanks if you can find the time. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC) Stan No info box and no picture. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 20:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
I trust your judgment. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Stan I have a better image of the Point Iroquois Light somewhere in my photo albums. I'll scan it as soon as I can find it....Asher196 (talk) 04:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Picture at Terry Pepper courtesy of Michigan State archives. http://www.terrypepper.com/Lights/huron/roundisland/roundisland04.htm 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
I think this article would benefit from the addition of a second image, from the U.S.Coast Guard. Here is the link. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/ludington.JPG If you could do it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
Info box is incomplete. External links to relevant materials are in place, so it should not be hard to find. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
Asher: I've written this new article, and I'm sure you can make the reference forms better. If you can find the time, your contributions are always appreciated by me. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
They sent it to me. I think it is their image. I have been trying to get them to post it, and in fact have their e-mail address (I sent them an e-mail encouraging them to do it themselves. Unfortunately, I was short on specifics, and I think that these people may not be geeky enough to know how to do it. I had specifically requested them to send me an image we could use in Wikipedia, and they replied. I would be happy to send all of this correspondence to you, if you choose to give me someplace to send it. Then maybe you could personally give them some direction. What they sent me was the image of the interior of the museum, which has the Houdini poster in the middle, and the sculpture in the foreground. Let me know. Best. It is on their webpage. http://www.americanmuseumofmagic.org/ 7&6=thirteen (talk) 21:54, 22 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
re: US ArmyJust to let you know, I replied on my talk page to your comment. I like to keep discussions in a single thread :) Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 19:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC) MapsPlease don't change the maps to pushpins: the current maps show the distinct location of the community in relation to other communities, and they're used nationwide. They're made for a reason. We could easily have two maps, adding a separate nationwide pushpin map, but I don't know how to do that; could you add those? Nyttend (talk) 14:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Your editing of Bogan (disambiguations)This really is an article naming dispure of the principal page article (Bogan). The approach of subordinating proper nouns (whether for family names or locations) that long pre-date any recent popular cultural use doesn't allow distinguishing the history associated with the names/locations or distinguishing geographic perspectives. As you have seen with the Australian/NZ context, the term is perjorative in nature and offensive to some. The temporary articles I submitted to separate proper nouns that offer a different perspective of the individuals who bear the name "Bogan" keep getting deleted by some editors who want to collapse the work into the dismbiguation page. The cultural origins of the term 'bogan' is Australian/New Zealand and of recent vintage. The cultural origins of the Bogan family name from England, Ireland, and Germany goes back to at least the 6th century from my research and reflects contributions that distinguish the bearers of the name markedly from the Australian form and stereotype (cultured, pioneers, educators, attoneys, politicians, etc.). From what I read of the wiki policy, when there is a naming conflict (and there is) it is appropriate to qualify the name (i.e., the Friendly Fire example). Failure to distinguish the 'bogan' pejorative form from the 'Bogan' proper noun form equally is poor social etiquette. The limitations of the the Wiki tool on capitalization is a weakness that separates it from traditional encyclopedia manuals of style. The policy also says that common sense should prevail as well. Propagation of the use of the capitalized form of the word as referenced from Wikipedia has spread to other websites (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Bogan and http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=3765905512788389388). The strange thing is that the wikitionary only got it partially right, relative to the capitalization (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bogans). So from a neutral point of view, there are more than one cultural/geographic perspective that should be addressed and a resolution of the naming conflict should be more than cobbling toghther a disambiguation page that subordinates other cultural/geographic perspectives. I'm trying to be positive about the balance between the desire by some in Australia/NZ to describe a recent cultural stereotype while being considerate to those people who bear the name Bogan and who reside in a different geographic domain. TyrODonnell (talk) 01:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Revert on talkWhy did you revert my edit to User talk:86.43.184.115? I was removing a warning which I had issued myself, and I don't see that it's appropriate for another editor to restore it. The reason I reverted it was that I double-checked and noticed the edit by that IP had been self-reverted, so I removed my warning. If you feel it's appropriate to make a warning of your own, you are of course free to do so ... but I don't see why you felt it appropriate to obscure the fact that I had removed my warning. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Asher: Hope all is going well. This needs an info box. And a push pin map. Happy editing! 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Stan Old Mission Peninsula AVA could use a push pin map. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 04:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
I think this picture (from the Coast Guard website) would look great on the left side of the article. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/harborbeach.JPG What do you think? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Push pin map? Info box incomplete. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
This original picture (with the removed fog horn station) might be good. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/menomineeBefore.JPG Push pin map? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Stan No info box. Pictures in this article suck, too. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/boisblanc.JPG 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Nice job. I'll see if I can tweak it. The new picture is better, although maybe we need the before and after? Short of going into the print books (Putnam would be great, I think, as he was the last director of the Lighthouse Service before it merged with the Coast Gaurd), Terry Pepper is the main source on Michigan (and "western Great Lakes") lights for sure. He really worked hard on the history. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Good job on deleting the bad info from the crime section on the Saginaw page. However, is there any way you can fix the map? The pushpin makes it appear as though the City of Saginaw is much further East than it really is, practically in Tuscola county.User:hsxeric (talk) 9:30PM, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Info box is incomplete. Push pin map? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
I think that the outstanding U.S. Coast Guard photo (see the external links section) would be a great addition to this article. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/seulchoixpointe.JPG7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Blanking your own talk pageWell, I guess I didn't know that even though I know of WP:Talk page but then again it's better that it's archived anyway. Oh well. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪ kaiden 04:23, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Asher: Please take a look at the discussion and the info box on the height issue. Stan is confused. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Like many things, Pepper was actually there as he has referenced, and made personal observations. I also tend to trust his version of things, as I have encountered (so far) very few obvious errors by him in the articles I've looked at. One of those his surmise on how best to get to the Charity Island Light and the Gravelly Shoal Light. He wrote about chartering a boat from Caseville, Michigan and some other points on the Thumb, and was evidently unaware of the ferry from Au Gres, Michigan. I had the benefit of local knowledge. I did write to him about that. There was also another typo in some other article, and I wrote to him about that and he corrected it. Of course, his mass of info is so large that errors are inevitable. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:58, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Stan Speaking of info boxes, these both have the wrong kind. Thanks for filling out Charity Island Light, BTW. I would try to do this myself, but am concerned that I not screw up the National Historic Register part ofthe info box. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)Stan
Wrong info box. However, this one really is on the National Register of Historic Places. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
The picture at Wiki Commons (which is the one used in the article) is from the USCG cite. It won't blow up to a higher resolution, but the USCG one does. This is an exceptionally good picture, and this seems to be a technical issue. 21:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Needs a picture. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/detourreef.JPG 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC) Stan I think the info box should show that it was upgraded in 1880 to a 3rd Order Fresnel Lens with bullseye (but I don't know how to do that. That accounted for the 27.5 mile range, which I don't think is accurate for the current optic. I put in the current optic. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Asher: You're right. The problem is that the island and the lighthouse are inextricably intertwined. I don't know what you are supposed to do. Your the Admin (General) and I'm just an editor (Worker bee). Is there a rule against having two info boxes? We could split the article, but that kind of narrow jurisdictional approach will turn the article into hash. You might ask BKConrad, as he is "Older & Wiser" In any eventtk, he usually has a good perspective and is willing ot share it. Just a thought. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Looks pretty good. Sorry if you didn't get my TV joke, I thought everybody knew that one. At least everybody who was around in the 1970s. See Robert Young (actor) "Young later became famous for Marcus Welby, M.D. (1969-1976) for which he won an Emmy for best leading actor in a drama series. Young became so well identified with his wise doctor persona that he became famous as the commercial spokesman for an aspirin product, saying, "I'm not a doctor but I play one on TV" while wearing a lab coat.[1] He continued making television commercials until the late 1980s."Asher196 (talk) 03:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Needs two info boxes. BTW, if you click on Manitou Island Light it take you there. It does, cuz I tried it. At least it does from Whitefish Point Light, although I didn't actually check the editing to see how it's formatted. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 15:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Goaltending leaders at 2008 Stanley Cup PlayoffsThe top five goalies by SV% are not necessarily the top 5 by GAA. In this case:
If you'd like to join the discussion regarding the goalies, see Talk:2008 Stanley Cup Playoffs#Goalie stats section. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 19:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC) Sugar Beets/Michigan Sugar CoPlease, change the information if you need to. You probaly know more about this kind of thing than I do. One thing I would like to mention is that I took a tour of the Croswell factory a couple years back in Januaray, and the guide told me this was the start of the processing season. Thank's for helping me with this page, as you probably know, articals concering agriculture are very important to [[the Thumb]. So please to feel free to correct my mistakes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgord (talk • contribs) 04:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC) Natalie Wood imgHelpful catch, I've seen that image before and it's very likely behind a copyright. Gwen Gale (talk) 05:15, 25 May 2008 (UTC) Thank you very much...I have noted your comment on user:Rollosmokes' talk page regarding my attempts to delete messages on my talk page and have acted on them. I had assumed that this procedure was allowed, because the messages have been acknowledged and noted (and expired), and because it is after all my own page. I had recently had some less-than-sunny exchanges with this user, and I wished to put all of them behind me and start afresh. I often edit with merely my own IP address because I simply forget to log in! Thank you for your notification of this and your support. Regards 67.180.135.133 (talk) 03:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Nick, alternatively known as user Lantana11.67.180.135.133 (talk) 03:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC) Needs a push pin. Hope you are doing well. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 13:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Stan, It is common for people to become confused when they see the numbers for a lighthouse which has a building height that is greater than the focal height. Attached, you will see the entry for Round Island light from the 1937 Great Lakes Light list. I have also added a quick sketch which should immediately show how the aforementioned height differential can occur. In the case of Round Island, the height from the water level to the crib deck is simply less than the height from the focal plane to the top of the vent ball! Feel free to share it with Asher196 if you should choose to do so. Kind regards, Terry I wrote: > Terry: > > As it is, I am now getting some dissension from Asher196 on the > height/focal plane of Round Island Light. He and I have been working > together on some of these Wikipedia article revisions, so I need to > tread carefully with him, as I don't want to lost an ally. I am > trying to explain (as you did in your two charts) that the numbers > that go into focal plane and tower height are independent of each > other. Thus, we get the odd looking numbers (from you chart) on the > Whitefish Point light. I'm guessing he'll figure it out. As Terry indicated, he sent me the diagram with the figures and the data that shows the situation at Round Island Light. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Stan PinballI see that you arbitrarily decided to move the contested section rather than join in the discussion that had already been established regarding that portion of the article. As a courtesy to those of us who were having the talk (and those that you may be involved in in the future), can you please check to make sure that there isn't some sort of discussion taking place that is trying to reach consensus before making your own decision as to what to do? In this case, the end result may have ended up as "keep it integrated". 'preciate it. SpikeJones (talk) 11:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC) I'm sure this article would benefit from your intervention. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
USCG photo might be good. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/bigbaypoint.JPG Could go down on the right by External links. Go Red Wings! ---- Stan I don't disagree with your measurement. I don't know the source of the 45 feet. Maybe you want to change the figure in the infobox? BTW, this picture would look good at the bottom of the article on the right side (opposite the external links). http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/mackinacpoint.JPG I liked the night picture you put in, BTW. Stan
This picture on the right of the External Links? http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/fortgratiot.JPG 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Stan Lighthouse info boxIf you look at one of the infoboxes that I've cobbled together, (Sturgeon Point Light?) maybe, I think I have everything that needs to be in there. You need original lens, current lens, original range, current range, NHR Number, station creation date (real useful if there have been multiple lights on a site), tower creation date, intensity, markings, shape, owner, operator (if different than owner), website (maybe?), characteristic, disposition of previous lens, location, active, open to public. And of course, there are those other things that show up in lighthouse info boxes, but I don't remember them, and don't know what they are (they're probably from overseas). State historic register status? I think that's all I can think of for now. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 22:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
LighthousesI am a new user to Wikipedia and into lighthouses. I have seen almost 250 lighthouses and have a wall full of books and resources. Let me know if you want help in this effort. I can dig up plenty of books as references etc. Right now I just started looking through lighthouses on Wikipedia to see what I can contribute. --Crimson Red Fox (talk) 23:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Historical photograph would look good to the right of the external links. [[1]] 7&6=thirteen (talk) 15:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC) Stan Mackinac Bridge- 12th, 3rd, or longest suspention bridge?There's a lot of diffrent information going around about the Big Mac Bridge. The official website says it is the third longest suspention in the world. The longest suspention bridge article says it is the 12th longest suspention. In terms of length between anchorages, it is much longer than the Akashi-Kaikyo Bridge. We need to work together and try to clear this up. Keep up the good work, Cgord (talk) 14:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Infobox. Also needs vintage photo. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
FYI on U.S. Coast Guard list of Michigan lightsThe Coast Guard has changed the URL on its list of Michigan lights. The URL must now end with ".asp" not "html." This is going to need to be changed on all those other articles. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)Stan
Copyright problem with Image:Midlandlogo.PNGThank you for tagging the copyright problem with Image:Midlandlogo.PNG. I agree that the original uploader was incorrect in how he characterized the upload. I declined the speedy and instead added the {{logo fur}} template to the page, since logos can be used to illustrate the article about the logo's owner under fair use. Everything should be fine now. --Eastmain (talk) 23:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC) Glenn BeckThanks for the backup. "A reasonable man..." Nicely put. E2a2j (talk) 23:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Needs an infobox. I tried and just managed to bugger it up. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/cheboygancrib.JPG Coast Guard Picture. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
Needs an infobox. The links are all in place, so finding the information should not be too hard. Make sure you use an infobox that is complete (including markings, etc.)) See Cheboyugan Crib Light, for example. I would do this, but I've really got to get back to some paying work. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:33, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
We've got an info box and all the links are in place, so finding the information should not be too hard. All we need is an article. Ha-ha. 13:36, 30 June 2008 (UTC) Stan Coast Guard has two old pictures. Here is one of the links. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/menomineeAfter.JPG 22:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC) Stan
New article and new contributor (on Michigan lighs). 12:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC) Stan http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/tawaspoint.JPG Nice USCG Picture of Tawas Point (a/k/a Ottawa Point) Light. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC) Stan
RollbackHello, Asher196, and thanks for your anti-vandalism efforts to Wikipedia. Have you considered requesting for rollback? It's much faster than using the UNDO feature. Thanks! SchfiftyThree 00:52, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Your rollback requestHello Asher196, I've granted your account rollback in accordance with your request. Please remember to use rollback to revert edits that you are absolutely sure are vandalism: if in doubt, don't use rollback to revert. In addition, misuse of the rollback feature, either by reverting good-faith edits or revert-warring, can and will lead to its removal. For more information, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback. Good luck. Acalamari 02:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Michigan shorelineHi, I commented on the talk page. I think the shoreline length itself is pretty solid, and i was able to find a fair number of sites making the "second longest" claim... but some of dubious reliability, or referring to each other, etc. I wonder if there's a way to include the length and claim without necessarily validating it as "correct". You may want to comment there as well... Best. ++Lar: t/c 13:13, 16 July 2008 (UTC) Asher196: Fabulous U.S. Coast Guard picture here: http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/grossepoint.JPG 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC) Stan
I've just made a recommendation on the page Talk:2007–08 NHL season. Since you edit there regularly, I wanted your comment. BMW(drive) 14:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC) Re: Super Space Invaders '91Thank you. It is very much appreciated. I'll check it out later. Thanks again. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)) Size of Earth-Moon imageWhy do you insist on making the image  so small the labels cannot be read? For example, fits on the page just fine, and is legible. Brews ohare (talk) 19:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
OzzyI just wanted to let you know why I have removed "Ozzy" from the list of Chris Osgood's nicknames. At Wikiproject:Hockey, we have determined that the "nickname" part of the infobox should be used for real nicknames, like "The Great One" or, in this case, "The Wizard of Oz" rather than a short form of the players' names, like Gretz or Ozzy, since almost every player is referred to in the latter way by his teammates. -- bmitchelf•T•F 05:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Asher: needs an info box. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 09:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC) Stan
Infobox needed. Here is a link to the U.S.C.G. Photo. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/saginawriverrear.JPG 7&6=thirteen (talk) 09:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC) Stan
Jimmy ChagraWhy did you take my picture of Jimmy down? While that picture has been used in certain publications it was MINE. I gave them permission and I released it to Wiki. So why did you take it down? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Politicalmerc (talk • contribs) 13:52, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Twin Lakes Brewing Companythere three refs, one a self ref but two look independent, I just think this should be given a chance at afd especially if the green energy claim has any credence. Gnangarra 02:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC) Yes please tell me what else would be required to keep this from being deleted again. This is far from the first article i have written on wiki, and the first time i have had one deleted - especially so quickly! I am glad to see it up again and want to be sure it is out of danger. I hope the additioanl refs help. thanks. Turover (talk) 03:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC) Nickname or whateverJust so you know we aren't saying it can't go in the article, you are more than welcome to add it into the prose, we are just saying it isn't a nickname. As the second sentence in the Nickname article that you keep referring to says. Not to be confused with a familiar or truncated form of the proper name, such as Bob, Bobby, Rob, Robbie, Robin, and Bert for Robert which is called a short name. So feel free to add it into the prose, just don't call it a nickname, say something like "Sometimes called Ozzie" if you think its that notable to warrant inclusion into the article. -Djsasso (talk) 01:17, 30 July 2008 (UTC) Needs info in the infobox. Happy editing. 19:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC) Stan Meijer Gardens, American Horse, Statue copyrightHi Asher196. I have come here to follow up with you about Image:MeijerGardensAmericanHorse.jpg. I used to contribute a lot of images to wikipedia, back about a year and a half ago I would make trips to specific locations to take high quality pictures for inclusion on Wikipedia. In doing so, I learned more about copyright of photography than most lawyers do (because most lawyers do not work in the copyright space). Suffice to say that your perception of image copyright is an incorrect one. A summary of image copyright has been written elsewhere far better than I can try here, but i am so out of practice on WP I cannot find it. First, please carefully read the copyright template that I have placed upon this image. The image is copyrighted because it is a 2d representation of a 3d statue. Statues, just like paintings, soda can artwork, music and movies are copyrightable. As such, one cannot make derivitives of that work that one can license (i.e. take a picture). If one takes a photograph of a statue, the original copyright holder still retains rights over that image, rights that can only be bent through the implying the fair use provisions of copyright law. I was involved in a rather epic struggle between good (fair use) and evil (anti-copyright) people on Wikipedia, one that we sadly lost because this project is dominated by people who are so leftist and anti establishment that they desire nothing short of completely free. Sadly, this is a battle my side eventually was overcome by noise and numbers generally, but even these nazi's must admit defeat in the face of being able to include photographs of statues. There is no other option. One simply cannot create public domain or freely licensable photographs of statues. I hope this post brings to you a greater understanding of copyright of images and will serve you in your future editing.--Jeff (talk) 03:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I can see both sides of this, but I believe if you're going to upload the image, you should complete the job. Asher196 (talk) 04:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I changed the Michigan lighthouse template to reflect the new name. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 21:05, 3 August 2008 (UTC) Stan
Common misconceptions disagreement
Basics of mergingGet one article the way you like it, redirect the other to it. That is it. spryde | talk 00:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
HeartAlthough I doubt it's what you meant, I agree that there's "spelling, and [then there's] American spelling". ;-) How to delete an image file?Hi there. You tagged a photo of mine of which the copyright status is unknown. I would actually like for it to be deleted. How does one go about doing that? (The image file is Treesoflight.jpg.) Thank you! --Fabioli2010 (talk) 02:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Asher: This could use the Coast Guard pic. Unfortunately, I can't connect to the usual Coast Gaurfd list. The Coast Gaurd pic is also at Michigan Lighthosue Conservancy, whcih link is in the article. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC) Stan
The darn U.S. Coast Guard list of Michigan lists still isn't working that I can find. This could use that kind of picture. Maybe you can find one. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC) Stan
The darn U.S. Coast Guard list of Michigan lists still isn't working that I can find. This could use that kind of picture. Maybe you can find one. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC) Stan
It seems to be working for me. Asher196 (talk) 18:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
The USCG Historical light pic would be a great addition. I have put in and tidied up all of the links. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC) Stan |
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