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Madoka work, and GA

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Good work on Puella Magi Madoka Magica, probably looking good for GA. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to recent expansion of the article, I'm thinking of nominating the article for Good Article class. What do you think? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First off, thanks for the barnstar; I really appreciate it! As for GA status, I would like to ask for you to hold off for now. I'm still in the midst of heavily expanding the article's production section and still have a ton more sources to sift through. If you would like to help, I also think the reception section could use some expanding, particularly the 'Awards and accolades'. I will also need to add a section to the lead talking about the reception, and then copywrite the prose of the article. Feel free to help me along the way! I hope to nominate the article for GA status when I am finished with these tasks in the coming several weeks. Cheers, Artichoker[talk] 23:36, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's been a few days, and already the article is looking better than ever. Should I nominate it for GA now, or just for a peer review? Outside feedback could also be helpful in improving the article; in fact, the article has the potential for FA class. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:17, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to ask you to hold off on that for now. I will nominate the article for GA when I believe it is ready, and after I have finished making the improvements to the article. As I said before, I still have a few more sources to utilize for the production section, and then I also would like to further expand the reception section. That along with a major copyedit for the article are the main goals before I nominate the article for GA. But I agree with you that there could be potential for featured status in the future. Although I think some more pictures would need to be added, and admittedly, I am not too experienced with uploading images to Wikipedia. Artichoker[talk] 19:21, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

List of Pokémon (1–51)

As you can see, the section as you've left it is pretty clearly broken. I don't know what's causing it. I do know that my edit fixed it. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 20:13, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, you are correct. I had already reverted my original edit and am now investigating as to why the template is breaking for Zubat. Do you have any ideas as to why this could be happening? Artichoker[talk] 20:20, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I ended up fixing it. It turned out to be a stray apostrophe at the end of the paragraph that messed everything up! Cheers, Artichoker[talk] 20:41, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Again, thanks for your edits on Madoka (seems your activity has slowed down lately though, if you don't mind, I'll put the article for a peer review once you finish your contributions). Anyway, I noticed that user New Age Retro Hippie has been merging a number of articles on different Pokémon into the different lists of Pokémon. I'm curious as to where this was discussed, as I can't find any such discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pokémon. Could you link to the relevant discussion? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:43, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, my activity has slowed down somewhat during these last few days because I am preparing to move to a new place and start a new job. However, I have a local draft of additional content that I am planning to add soon, after I am finished working on it. Don't worry, I still have plenty of contributions planned for the article to get it up to GA status in the upcoming weeks :) However, you are free to put it up for a peer review whenever you would like.
Regarding the the merging of some of the individual Pokémon articles, I am not aware of any discussion that happened. However, I am not necessarily opposed to his actions, and think he was simply acting boldly. Of course, if you disagree with any of these merges, I'd definitely recommend you contact him as well as initiate discussion on the article talk pages and/or the wikiproject talk page. I would also participate in these discussions so that we could reach a consensus. Artichoker[talk] 17:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally, it also appears that discussion is taking place at User talk:Tezero#Pokémon. Artichoker[talk] 17:57, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and it's only going to grow. It looks like a notability discussion regarding a few Sonic characters is turning into something much larger – which I'm unhappy about on all counts but is the case. Tezero (talk) 20:53, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. I have been lurking on those Sonic discussions and must say that the points about notability regarding significant and dedicated coverage are very interesting and somewhat compelling. However, I am unsure myself whether there is enough independent coverage of these subjects to constitute adequate notability. Artichoker[talk] 21:20, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Apologies

I got mixed up and added it in without double-checking. --occono (talk) 10:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It takes two to tango

I've contested your additions to the article. Do not give me a templated warning over this matter because you are as much in the wrong as I am for constantly acting without consensus.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:08, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was simply following WP:BRD. For example, my first restoration of the content was due to what I thought was the end of the dispute after you admitted you had no policy arguments supporting your opinion. I then discussed further and restored the information with an additional, independent source. You however, have continually reverted three times without any concrete discussion besides what appears to be your own opinion on what policy "should" be, but not what it actually is. Artichoker[talk] 00:14, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, you were edit warring because I reverted your bold addition and began a discussion. Just because you do not accept my arguments does not mean you get to restore the content. And I've since pointed out that the video game project guidelines exclude everything you have been using as a source. Not to mention one discussion at AFD does not constitute acceptance as a reliable source.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:18, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Have you read our internal guidelines that you continue to talk about? As I show here, this particularly GameSpot source completely complies as a reliable source under our WikiProject. Also, I am very puzzled at your remark about SlashGear. I very clearly linked you to the editorial page of SlashGear which demonstrates that it has editorial oversight and is a reliable source. Artichoker[talk] 00:30, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So long as either of them cite Serebii or the "leaks" neither are reliable sources under these circumstances. This information will be made officially public in two days. There is no reason Wikipedia has to report on it when the sourcing is questionable as I have been saying.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You continue to say they can't be reliable because of "Serebii" or "leaks". But where is your policy-based argument to support their disinclusion? Once again, my edits are in-line with WP:V, but your statements seem to continue to be a matter of your own opinion on which sources are reliable and which ones aren't. Once again, I am looking for actual Wikipedia policy on the merits of your arguments. Not just an opinion that "because it's a leak, we can't include it." Why not? As long as the source is reliable and the information is verifiable, why can't we include it? Artichoker[talk] 00:40, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If we already deem one website an unreliable source, why should other websites reporting the content and citing that website be considered reliable sources for this information?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:46, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Please see hahnchen's reply here which I believe perfectly answers your question as to why it can still be reliable. Artichoker[talk] 00:48, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
He is still incorrect in taking Gamespot as a reliable source in this matter. We've gone through similar discussions on websites normally considered reliable reporting on information from what are internally considered to be unreliable sources in the past. This situation is no different.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:52, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"We've gone through similar discussions on websites normally considered reliable..." Why do you continue citing these vague assertions as evidence without providing a single link to previous precedent or existing Wikipedia policy? Once again, it really just seems like this is all solely based on an opinion that you hold. In addition, please see my reply here. Artichoker[talk] 00:58, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Madoka again

Well, the peer review for Madoka is winding down (no comments in two weeks), and good comments have been given. Hopefully someone could close the PR soon, as I'm itching to start a peer review for ClariS.

Anyway, looking at the article again, I don't really agree with the idea that the development section is too long. On the contrary, it's pretty well developed for an anime article. Pretty much the only thing that needs to be addressed now is more sources: I agree that the article relies a bit too much on ANN and could use other sources, especially Japanese ones. Hopefully you can go back to your previous level of editing soon. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:31, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for opening that PR. I agree with you that the production section is definitely not too long. And yes, I think a major thing that needs to be addressed in the article is it's reliance on ANN as a source (it seems about half of the sources are from that site). That will need to be remedied, and then I am still in the process of rewriting the Broadcast and Distribution section and the Other Media section. Finally, the reception section needs more detail (for which I have already done some research and collected more sources; I just need to transfer them into the prose) and I believe the article will then be ready for GA once those issues have been addressed and I plan to nominate it as soon as that happens. Hopefully I can get my Wikipedia workflow started back up again, as I am wrapping up my real-life transition to a new city. Artichoker[talk] 04:37, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. By the way, this is off-topic, but could you take a look at the article Mami Kawada? It's the article I work on the most, since it's the article of my favorite singer. Could you leave me feedback on my talk page on how the article can be improved? Right now it's B-class (but honestly I feel the article's structure and prose need some work), but I feel that with the right amount of sourcing and good enough prose it could end up being a GA. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:04, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I forgot to mention this, but the PR mentioned having a "Themes" section. To my knowledge, the only anime GA with a "themes" section is Neon Genesis Evangelion, so I don't think it's that necessary. However, if there are reliable sources that explain the themes used in Madoka, then it's fine to include them. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:34, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. I didn't realize the story had been updated and revised downward. It said 63 counties when I grabbed it (which would match the URL), but of course your revert was correct with the story as it reads right now. Thank you! 2601:4:1B80:156:41F2:12F8:5E6C:197A (talk) 01:57, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Thanks for your help! Artichoker[talk] 02:19, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Some stroopwafels for you!

Thanks for your work on List of Pokemon Anime Characters, as I have been absent for a few weeks to revert the rampant fankruft and original research. NathanWubs (talk) 12:38, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Cheers, Artichoker[talk] 23:58, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kawashita yakusoku wasurenai yo me wo toji tashikameru~

Thanks for nominating Puella Magi Madoka Magica for good article status. Unfortunately, WP:GAN seems to have quite a bit of backlog at the moment, so like the other pending anime and manga GANs it could take a long while before any comments are made (I think there's one GAN from April that has yet to have any discussion started). Is it allowed to contact an experienced but uninvolved editor to take a look at the article and ask for comments? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:20, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. As for the backlog, you're definitely right. GAN has had a backlog for as long as I can remember. In fact, if I get some more time, I'd like to start reviewing some of the older GANs and help reduce that backlog. As for my nomination of Madoka Magica, I think we should just be patient. It'll be reviewed some time, and if that's a couple months down the road, that's okay. I certainly feel more sorry for the editors that have nominations still sitting there from like February. Hopefully I can help reduce that waiting time for them. Artichoker[talk] 19:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, no one's starting the discussion yet. Can you ask someone to start one for Madoka and the other pending anime GAs? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:08, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if we need to solicit anyone. Generally how the GA process works is you nominate the article GAN and then you wait for a reviewer to decide to review the article. GAN has a huge backlog though, so sometimes these things can take time. Artichoker[talk] 03:39, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Puella Magi Madoka Magica lead section

Hi, I've been expecting this article to be an WP:GAN already. Can you add to the lead section a paragraph about the production and development of the Madoka Magica anime? That way the lead feels more complete. }IMr*|(60nna)I{ 01:18, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I will do that. Probably won't be able to get to it today, but tomorrow I will try and add a paragraph to the lead about production. Artichoker[talk] 23:05, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'm happy! =D }IMr*|(60nna)I{ 00:37, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I wish you can finish that paragraph before the GA review starts. How come you didn't edit for a week before today.}IMr*|(60nna)I{ 02:52, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry things have been hectic. I'll get it added in there. Artichoker[talk] 03:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Peer review/Mami Kawada/archive2. Sorry for asking for more comments, but since, per your suggestion, I've put it up for peer review, comments are appreciated. Thank you. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:27, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. I'll try to get to it, along with my other obligations, this weekend. Artichoker[talk] 00:25, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, since no one has added to the discussion yet, comments are welcome. Also, good job on Madoka, as always. Maybe you can try improving the other articles covered by WP:ANIME, such as the articles on SAO, Love Live, and others. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:00, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I would love to improve more anime articles, but that will have to come in due time. I'm currently in a real crunch. Things should hopefully clear up in a few weeks though. Artichoker[talk] 22:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You already know what this barnstar is for, right? Congratulations! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:57, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Much appreciated! I'm just so glad the article of my favorite series is now a GA. I thank you for all of your help along the way. Artichoker[talk] 02:14, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. By the way, do you have any more suggestions for Mami's page? I plan to nominate it for GAN once the peer review is finished. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:27, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing came to mind. I think any changes left to be made will be minor and can easily be accomplished during the GAN process. Artichoker[talk] 05:02, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing I did not expect from that successful GA nomination. And by the way, I've actually grown tired of Madoka Magica (because that anime was not horrifying to me as everyone thought it is). But don't worry, I'm usually enjoying happiness. =D }IMr*|(60nna)I{ 07:19, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I liked the visuals in Madoka Magica though. }IMr*|(60nna)I{ 22:31, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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So I just decided to check in on my old wikipedia user page:

And I saw this. I've checked the user's talk page, and they appear to have never even been disciplined for this, and instead found messages about what a valued editor they were. I know this is extremely, extremely delayed notice, but...what the actual hell is going on?Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 02:09, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Their contributions last back to 2006, so this wasn't some random flyby troll that immediately shaped up once they were informed of the rules, either. This appears to have been an incredibly blatant, malicious attack.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 02:12, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nevermind. It looks like he's stopped editing anyway so there's nothing to do remedy-wise. Just kind of confirms my impression of wikipedia, I guess.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 02:43, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @KrytenKoro:. I actually did warn the user for that particular edit of vandalism here. In any case, it's good to hear from you. It's certainly been a while. Cheers, Artichoker[talk] 02:53, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Huh. Okay. I was confused by that, since he'd been a user since 2006, but okay. Thanks!Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 04:08, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I ended up reverting it, but only because the information he added is actually in the article, in the section directly above it. I'm wary about going into further detail regarding the glitch simply because that was one of the harder bits to 'lock down' during the FA, as it was up in the air just how much information someone would need to know on how to trigger the glitch for a reader completely unfamiliar with the game or even gaming itself.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 01:55, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. I've now nominated Puella Magi Madoka Magica for FA status, would it be okay with you to be a co-nominator of the nomination? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:37, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Naruto, see my reply on the nomination page. I don't think nominating for FAC is appropriate at this time. What do you believe has significantly changed about the article since the last time we discussed this and how have those original concerns been addressed? Artichoker[talk] 03:45, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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