User talk:Arglebargle79
Trump tweetHeads up β Trump just tweeted about your latest edit to Matthew W. Brann. It has since been reverted and restored with better wording, but I thought you should know. β bradvπ 05:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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January 2021This and this are beyond the pale for discussing living persons. Please turn your rhetoric way, way, way down, or you are likely to end up with a topic ban from modern American politics. βvalereee (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
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Arglebargle79 (block log β’ active blocks β’ global blocks β’ contribs β’ deleted contribs β’ filter log β’ creation log β’ change block settings β’ unblock β’ checkuser (log)) Request reason: Your reason here While i'm a bit on the obnoxious side, I did NOT violate any rules. Arglebargle79 (talk) 14:11, 5 January 2021 (UTC) Decline reason: The below is a WP:WALLOFTEXT. Please reduce your text by an order of magnitude. Yamla (talk) 14:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Okay, here we go: I did not violate the biographies of living persons policy. True, I was less than civil when it came to the edit on Talk:Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election. I did not say anything that wasn't verified by reliable media. Yes, I know that in the past I have been falsely accused of being disruptive. These have to do with previous articles in the series. The first was about where to put the perennial hobbyist Rocky de la Fuente in the Results of the 2020 Republican Party presidential primaries. The fellow had gotten on the ballots in enough states to make him 'major candidate' and So I put him on the chart separately. A protracted argument followed, and It was eventually decided in my favor. Then there was a kerfuffle about a photograph of President-elect Biden, who hadn't gotten the title yet. The photo was changed from a decent one to one that was downright creepy. The use of the term by others on the subject is in the record somewhere. The person who was defending the use of the photo as "consensus" began stalking me, and they issued numerous unfounded complaints. Taking their side, I was put on limited sanctions. Again, these were unfounded. So now we come to this. I am accused of violating biographies of living persons. How? The policy is, and I quote: Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page.[a] Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States, to this policy, and to Wikipedia's three core content policies: Neutral point of view (NPOV) Verifiability (V) No original research (NOR) AS to WP:NOR, there wasn't any. I have never done so, except for maybe once. This was at the 2016 Democratic convention when after ASKING PERMISSION, I posted a photograph of a credential I had been given to attend the event. It was later taken down, for copyright reasons, and I didn't complain. On a number of times, there were false accusations of such because I had posted the facts just prior to posting the reference. Most recently, having to do with a nifty bit of trivia having to do with last Sunday's opening of Congress, It was the first time this has ever happened. It was challenged and I proved it again. No harm no foul. Then there's Verifiability WP:V, Everything I have put on the main page of all articles have been verified. As to the Emily Murphy thing. I never posted anything unverified in the article. In fact, I never posted anything about her at all on the main page of the article in question. I did not put the "offending" section up, nor did I revert it when it was twice taken down. I'm serious. If there disruptive edits, it wasn't me. The only thing I said on the matter was: "...just got rid of the entire Emily Murphy section, which BTW, was there from the very creation of the article and is a vital part of the narrative." that's it. There was a later part of the thread when another poster falsely accused me of libeling Ms.Murphy. I replied infelicitously, but then, I was provoked. Remember, Ms. Murphy is Administrator of the General Services Administration, a cabinet-level office in the Federal government, making her a Public Figure. The relevant "scripture" on the subject is this: ...In the case of public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable published sources, and BLPs should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the articleβeven if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out. What Ms. Murphy did, was widely reported in all major newspapers, TV networks, and reliable websites in North America and the Rest of the World. I said that that the certain poster knew Ms. Murphy because I could find no reason why she would go to such lengths to defend her. I was simply trying to understand. I also wish to note that I never mentioned Ms.Murphy's social life, personal life, or anything else about her taking place between November 3 and 30, 2020. They are irrelevant. The main thing was about Trump himself. The article in question, and most of the other articles related to it, are, as to subject matter, quite insane. (this is NOT WP:POV) Babykins throws a tantrum: Depicting Trump as a baby here (and not on the main page, obviously) is done because the enablers in high and elected office were treating him as such... There are countless reports in reliable sources where people say this. To quote one of the people who got me blockedΒ : Now you're calling her an actual criminal, (which I did not) and your evidence is a tweet from Trump, a known liar who will throw anyone under the bus if he thinks it'll make him look good. Nope, I don't know the woman and as far as I know have never met anyone who's met her, but thanks for that show of good faith lol. All of us should be concerned that we avoid libeling any living human being. Notice that THEY are characterizing the President in the exact same way I did. Should THEY be blocked as well? No. In this case, she is right. the top of the talk page on the article in question encourages WP:Be bold, which as i folloed this policy, is why I believe I am being punished. I ask humbly, please unblock me. I have much to contribute. Arglebargle79 (talk) 14:11, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
This is very disappointing to see an indefinite ban for a very productive user as a first block. While his language on the talk page was not well thought out at a time of frustration, it's hard to see a serious BLP violation when the subject is the highest public figure who could not win a theoretical defamation lawsuit. I certainly respect these administrators' decisions regarding this language but I hope ArgleBargle79 can return at some point after a time of penance and a cooling of the political atmosphere, perhaps with the topic ban in the following section. Reywas92Talk 09:29, 17 January 2021 (UTC) Has anyone seen user talk:Ket10ny? Yes that user was blocked as a sockpuppet of someone else, but the evidence presented had merit. Also, take a look at the extensive interaction shown here, in particular Arglebargle79's work on articles started by Ericl like Impeachment investigations of United States federal judges and Impeachment investigations of United States federal officials. Seems pretty likely the user is an Ericl sock. Sro23 (talk) 06:11, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Community TBAN on AP32 imposedA Community TBAN has been imposed on Arglebargle79, prohibiting editing on all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people, broadly construed. It will continue to apply if any appeal of his indefinite block is accepted, unless a successful appeal is made at AN. An appeal may be made 6 months after the removal of the indefinite block. In the event that ARBCOM change the definition of AP32, to use a later cut-off year, the original definition will continue to apply (again, subject to any AN-appeal). Nosebagbear (talk) 09:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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