Happy New year
Pls help me to circulate this appeal-
if any body/ or few of You brilliants who reside in North India can tell me about newspapers in India like Punjab Kesari, Dainik Bhaskar , Rajasthan Patrika , Navjyoti ?
or few famous news papers of Jaipur , Rajasthan , Punjab Their circulation or popularity . & if any body of you know Hindi. or interested to explore different/ all or specific religion , philosophy , poetry etc . I want your help to translate some few 50 line of Hindi news to English. Pls. Gift your name to me on my talk page please Regards - --Dralansun (talk) 15:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Canvass
Hi Anupam,
I just wanted to drop you line about your post on my talk page... it was unnecessary as I have the OWU pages watched... that being said, your requests for input is actually a violation of wp:canvass because you are only contacting people who share your perspective.Balloonman (talk) 02:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yaar nobody replies when I post requesting for people to create a Taskforce. :(
I have also asked for people asking to create a WP:uttar pradesh and rather just create a WP for all the states of India(since anyway we have it for some of them) and let people join at different rates.Maquahuitl (talk) 11:59, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually on second thoughts, I am more interested in having a Taskforce of Hindustani and allied languages(Hindi, Urdu and Hindi languages, foreign Hindi languages, creoles, etc.). Since yesterday I have been browsing through Hindustani-related articles and besides being in a dispute related to the material, they are in a big mess in their categorisation. Categories are recursively defined, and there are several garbage pages and other pages whose titles must be changed. Here is my navigation box for Hindustani:
Please have a look at the message posted on my talk page by Tuncrypt, and then his reply to my reply to it on his talk page. He just talks arrogantly, and even though I took care to deal his points carefully, he says "most of what you've said is incomprehensible and nonsensical anyway". This kind of attitude will only make new contributors like me disgusted, and we're just going to leave wikipedia instead of facing humiliation. Administrators should help new people groomed in the environment of wikipedia rather than blackmailing people that "your changes and templates will be deleted". Even after asking him to talk to me as a friend, he was more interested in showing his arrogance. Maquahuitl (talk) 12:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What difference does my so-called arrogance make as to what's right and wrong? That's what at issue. If you go around being sore all the time, worrying about getting your feelings hurt, you're not going to get much done.
And so it's true, pretty much everything in your replies to my points does "veer off into the inconsequential and incomprehensibly nonsensical". Your reply to my first point simply repeats what I said in the first place. Your reply to my second point is even more senseless, where you're basically just talking to yourself. Third reply is not senseless, but nonetheless inaccurate. Hindustani is the shared colloquial base between what have become Hindi and Urdu. Trust me, I know this, I contribute heavily in linguistics, having much relevant academic material in my possession. Rather than Hindustani > Hindi+Urdu, the correct scheme is as follows: "Western Hindi" > Khari Boli > Hindi+Urdu (in which H'stani is their shared colloq. base). Your reply to my fourth point again shows that you don't know what you're talking about. Here are your non-Khari Boli dialects. Lastly my fifth point was to point out that while Hindi and Urdu both have the same grammar and other things (being registers of Delhi's Khari Boli dialect), it is the general topic of literature that is the very thing that constitutes their differences, so naturally grouping literatures together as such would be the most incomprehensible thing of all. As for Premchand, classifying him as both an author of Hindi and Urdu is not silly; that is what he was. He didn't classify himself, nor others him, as an "author of Hindustani". When one wants to express thoughts beyond the most basic, one must delve into Urdu or Hindi. Overall it would seem that the confusion lies between the terms "Khari Boli" and "Hindustani". Khari Boli is a dialect, a grammatical construct, not necessarily concerned with choices of higher vocabulary, and so it is the thing under which Urdu and Modern Standard Hindi can be subsumed, while Hindustani is concerned with vocabulary, specified shared colloquial vocabulary, and so it falls as a term to describe parts of Hindi and Urdu, not the other way around.
As stated in my reply, I hope to tackle the inaccurately inflated status accorded to "Hindustani" on Wikipedia. For example, a page like this need not exist. As I've said before, "Hindustani" is not a literary language but a shared colloquial basis of others, and more importantly, these things can be, and for the most part are, dealt with on the respective Urdu and Devanagari pages. Overall the Hindi/Urdu domain of pages are very much a mess. Tuncrypt (talk) 18:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot for your supportive words, or else my confidence and enthusiasm would have taken a severe beating.
The most important issue that we need to discuss and understand is the semantics of the word, or rather the term, 'Hindustani'. That includes historical usages as well. I will write about this on the main talk on the India discussion page; please check there as well.
You said something:
Before the partition of India, Hindustani traces itself back to Hindavi
Now I don't know how much of this is true. Before this sentence you said that Hindi and Urdu derive from Hindustani. Now Hindustani itself derives from Hindavi. As far as my knowledge goes, before the development of the Sanskritised standard in the late 19th century, Hindi, Urdu, Hindustani, Hindavi all referred to the same language and the particular form, which now is known as Urdu. I am not sure who used the term khadiboli. It is obvious from the term itself that Mughals surely wouldn't have used it since for them it would have made little sense what khadi is in the boli(khadiboli means rougher dialect). It would surely have come from native people in regions who were in constant touch with the people of the region speaking khadiboli- their immediate neighbours, who could have been either Awadhi speaking, to the East, or Braj bhashis, to the South. Now I really don't understand what Hindavi means and if it means some thing already considered, then who used it.
Regarding your quoted statement from the North Carolina Univ., I agree to the Hindi part, i.e. that Hindi was "chosen" from a "base" of Hindustani with Sanskrit vocabulary, specifically. However, the statement tells little about the fact that Urdu as a standard was already well-established at that time and therefore for Pakistan, distinguishing between Hindustani and Urdu made little sense. In fact it was in India where it took some time after independence for people to accept the term Hindi and say it to be their mother tongue. See the bottom of this link from GoI- I hope you understand this subtle point I am trying to make. Maquahuitl (talk) 20:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What I meant by my sentence was that Hindavi was an earlier name for Hindustani
Yes, therefore I shall just be tagging those articles right now, and the discussion about the actual merger, etc. can keep going on. Apart from that, I hope you must have noticed that Tuncrypt has overwritten my box entitled "Topics related to Hindustani(Hindi-Urdu) diasystem" to "Topics related to Hindi". So now Hindustani topics is actually a redirect to Hindi topics. I say keep all arguments and debates on Hindustani, Hindi, Urdu, etc. aside, couldn't there have been just more boxes as it pleased- i.e. a "Hindi" box and an "Urdu" box by him, and then a discussion on the usage and utility of all three could have been carried out. Why was there a need to overwrite the box which I created. I found an interesting page in the Wikipedia namespace, see if you find it interesting too. Maquahuitl (talk) 11:26, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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I created the project page keeping in mind the fact that a coherent approach towards the Hindi languages and its associated creoles is needed. However I now doubt whether it will attract enough people. Moreover with so much of controversy surrounding Hindi,Urdu and the rest, I now doubt if it will be fruitful at all. Kindly delete the page if you agree with me, or please get it by someone else. I am sorry for the mistake. Maquahuitl (talk) 15:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Re: Bihari people
Though the intention surely was reducing confusion, your merger of Biharis to Bihari people was probably not very appropriate. There are millions and millions of Bihari people living in Bihar, who should be identified as linguistic and geographic group. The Biharis/Bihari Muslims/Stranded Pakistanis ideally is identified as a political and religious entity. This is not a regular diaspora. Besides, over-riding the discussion (which is put to WP:RFC) and bringing is a completely new set of consideration without going through the problem first was slightly disruptive. May be you should participate in the discussion first. There are other editors taking part in the discussion, and there is no harm in being respectful to that community effort. Thanks. Aditya(talk • contribs)08:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Salaam! I just noticed that you had added an estimate on the Roma people article for the number of Romanies in India, nearly a year ago [1]. I know it's sourced, but it's based on the number of Banjara in India. The Banjara aren't Romani per se, though they may be closely related. According to Prof. Hancock, at least, there are no Romanies known to live in India.
This page in a nutshell: The Banjara are closely related, but they may not actually be Romanies. Also, there are probably other Romanies in India no one knows about. But hey, I could be missing something, too :)
Yes, I thought this might be the reason. I suspect that is a mistake on the part of that website, but I could be wrong :-P
I would guess the Banjara could easily be confused with Romanies, because they are thought to be closely related. In Prof. Hancock's theory, the Romanies are descended (partly) from Rajputs whom the Ghaznavids took as prisoners of war. The Banjara have a legend that they, too, are descended from Rajputs who fought against the Ghaznavids.
In fact, apparently part of the legend says that some of the Rajput soldiers left (as prisoners) through the Hindu Kush, and those who remained in India formed the Banjara "tribe." Presumably, the Romanies are descended from those who left.
So the Banjara are thought to be closely related to the Romanies, but they aren't quite Romanies. There probably are actual Romanies in India as well, because the Portuguese deported many Romanies to their colonies, including their colonies in India. No one seems to know what became of them, though. --Kuaichik (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, so much for that! [2] I discuss the change with you (who put it up in the first place), we agree, and then this Romanian guy reverts me without bothering to read!
Not that I think there's anything we can do about it. He almost never listens to me; in fact, he rarely listens to anyone but those who always agree with him. I just thought I'd point this out anyway. --Kuaichik (talk) 17:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I saw your name listed at the WikiProject Pakistan'smember page. With your recent interests in Bollywood movies, I see you are contributing little to project changes. Why not make a contribution towards WikiProject Pakistan. In the main navigation on the right-hand-side, you may find a link to Cinema in Pakistan. Why not start that WikiProject. Please leave a comment here to demonstrate your interest.
For some time, we have been able to make significant changes on the Wikipedia pages relating to Pakistan and have had mixed success but lesser input. It is time that all the members join their heads together and come up with exciting ways to work on the project. I hope to see you around on WikiProject Pakistan. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunreginald (talk • contribs) 15:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Pakistani articles
You should be aware that the there were significant Muslim population in Indian states of Bihar, Uttar Pradesh etc before migration to Pakistan from India in 1947. Likewise Punjab and Sindh province of Pakistan had Hindu population. Just comparing Uttar Pradesh or Bihar article to Saraiki people that you reverted as vandalism is surprising. Since there is no mention of 25-33% Muslim population migrating to Pakistan. While Pakistani pages have inundated with Indian POV. My changes in Khan Abdul Jabbar Khan and Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan have also been revertes as vandalism. You have to expalin your motives. I will be be reverting your changes in few days if don't get any reply. Misaq Rabab (talk) 22:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC) [reply]
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Baba Farid was a Muslim saint (1173–1266) while Sikhism was founded by Nanak (1469–1538), Baba Farid was dead for 400 years before Sikhism was even founded. How can he be a Sikh ? The Sikh gurus took his selective works added into Granth Sahib and revered him. The fact remain he was Muslim saint. There is a section in Fariduddin Ganjshakar page about his reverence in Sikhism. Paknur (talk) 12:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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At nl.wiktionary we had a little problem regarding the proper spelling of the names of months in Hindi. E.g. some people seem to write February just with a ph, others put the dot underneath to make it an f. Do you know if there is an official standard spelling for such things in Hindi?
nl:wikt:Gebruiker:Jcwf (<=please answer here)
Jcwf (talk) 14:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A little personal Hindi question that I hope you'll want to answer
Sorry if this is not the kind of place to ask this kind of question, but there is no one I know personally to ask this Hindi question. I have a friend who is under the impression that both "मेरा" and "मैंने" means "my" in Hindi, but I learned that "मैंने" is the nominative form of "I" (obviously). My friend is an experienced native speaker of Punjabi and Hindi. Could it be that my friend is confusing Punjabi and Hindi? Or is it that "मैंने" can mean "my" in special circumstances?
Thank you for your time and I apologize if this is an inappropriate question to ask on a Wikipedian's talk page.
Salaam again! You know that vegetable that's called लौकी in Hindustani (or Hindi/Urdu)? How is its name written in Nasta'liq? Is it just لوكی, or is it something else?
I ask because I found the Hindi article and recently added it to calabash[3]. I was wondering whether the Urdu Wikipedia has an article on it. It may very well not have such an article; even on the Hindi Wikipedia, it's just a stub that says "This is a vegetable"! :-D --Kuaichik (talk) 06:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes, I had looked for لوكی, too. I was just wondering whether maybe I should be looking for some other spelling! شكرِیه & शुक्रिया :) --Kuaichik (talk) 21:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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If it's not troubvle for you, can you please kep an eye on the info box on Pashtun people? I've added some nice pics of Afghan and Pakistani notable Pashtuns but someone (probably banned User:Beh-nam) is keep removing them.--119.30.69.117 (talk) 19:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
HI Mr. Anupam, noticing your additions of Punjabi languages in Punjabi related topic is good, but Punjabi in the Gurmukhi script is good enough for India related subjects because it is most widely used in India. Shahmukhi would be just fine for Pakistan Punjabi topics. If you wanna write in all possible modes, the you would have to include Punjabi in Devanagari script too! I guess there's no need for that. Lets just have it in Hurmukhi for India subjects. Hope you don't mind sir. Regards, Layet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Layetkaur (talk • contribs) 15:53, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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For Heaven's sake, please archive your Talkpage, It's a complete mess.
HINDI: I hope you know that the language which appears after the Name in Bold refers to the Mothertongue of the person. I don't know what made you feel Hindi is her mothertongue. She has no relation with Hindi. Unless and until, she has some native connection with Hindi, adding Hindi is not possible. Please do not add Hindi again as Hindi appearing there is out of question.
If you have added Hindi, because she has acted in a Hollywood-Bollywood Movie, then forget about it. Tomorrow, if she works in a Tamil, Telugu movie; that doesn't mean you add her name in Tamil, Telugu and make it a mess there.
KONKANI: Yes, Konkani may be her mothertongue through her descent. She has some ancestral connection with Mangalore which she acknowledges. But her name is not Freida Pinto in Konkani. She belongs to the Mangalorean Catholic community. Her name is Freida Pinto only in English, not in Konkani. Remember, Mangalorean Catholcs have Konkani variants for their names, which differs from the English variant. Please read Mangalorean Catholics#Names and surnames for more information on variants. So, you'll have to find what's her name in Konkani first and then add it here. If you are not clear, please contact me. KensplanetTC11:34, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
References for wikipedia articles
Namaste Anupam, hope you are fine. Actually I was wondering something. I am interested in writing about the supposed Hindi languages. But the problem is that not much modern day books are available on these dialects, whether in Hindi or in English. I have managed to find some books, but they are all in Hindi and were probably written 20-30 years ago. They are stored in the Digital Library of India. So are non-English references acceptable for articles in English on Wikipedia? Maquahuitltalk!15:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of material about non-standard Hindi languages like Awadhi, Braj Bhasha, etc. is not available in English but only in Hindi. I don't know if that would be helpful. In any case there is hardly anything substantial about these languages on Wikipedia. Maquahuitltalk!08:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(just passing by) I had some similar problems with spanish and italian sources. What I do is translating part of the text (just the relevant part, can be anywhere from one sentence to a whole paragraph) and posting it on the reference itself (if it's very short) or on the talk page (for long TL:DR parts) or both things (quote the most relevant sentence on the reference, and make a long explanation on the talk page for context). For an example, see Talk:Senyera#colours_vatican_flag --Enric Naval (talk) 15:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Yes, it's been more than a bit of a rough time for some of us, okay, me, for a while here. Several things, most of them not real pleasant, kept coming up. I think most of that is over with know. I hope and pray as much anyway. Easter is the church's time of rebirth, and I hope it's a good time for the rebirth of this newsletter. I hope that the project grows in numbers and effectiveness as the church itself has over the years. Thanks again for all your efforts to date. Oh, yes, and please note that this section is entitled "From the Members". That means you, all of you. If any of you have any comments you'd like to share with the other members in this section, please feel free to let us know, and we'll put them in the next issue. We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask. Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. Thanks again.
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Talk:Maundy Thursday
I suggest we remove my last comment and your response from Talk:Maundy Thursday as it's metadiscussion (discussion about the discussion, a perennial blight on Wikipedia) rather than discussion about the matter. I should have dropped a friendly note on your talk page rather than taking issue there. Thanks and good wishes. --Boston (talk) 21:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I am looking for some advices on an AFD about an urdu poet, and I was wondering if you could help. The article about Farooq Bakshi, who is apparently a famous urdu poet, has recently been nominated for deletion because there's almost nothing about him on Google. The author of the article argues that it is because most of the Urdu newspapers don't have websites, and therefore any awards or news about Farooq Bakshi can't be on the internet. However, I'm thinking that by searching for him in Urdu on Google or on BBC Urdu, it should be possible to find something about him. Please can you help or provide advices on this issue? Thank you, Laurent (talk) 18:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 68 FAs, 7 FLs, and 146 GAs, which includes 3 more FAs. We did however lose one FL and 2 GAs over the past month, but we still basically broke even with the 3 new FAs.
Member news
With the additions of cindyrom4jesus at 69.254.33.66, User:Jwhosler, and User:Arverniking, we now have 281 listed members. Thanks to you all, and a special welcome to our new members!
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Hello from the new Christian films task force! I was recently apart of founding a task force, so this is the story. For several months, I would not only contribute to Christian films, groups, etc., but I'd also see other users working on similar articles. I really wanted to create a project for us to work from. Filmcom contacted me about trying to get a task force going, so we began working together on it. When it appeared the idea was dying, we continued to fight, and several other users joined!
Thanks to the efforts of many users, I'd like to introduce you to the Christian films task force! We are currently having a bot tag all Christian film-related articles, and we are working to define our project scope. We now have our own icon and shortcut (WP:CFTF), with ten users signed out thus far - these are just some of the things that have been happening in the last few days. If you have any interest in joining such a project, we welcome everyone to join and get involved.
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The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 72 FAs, 6 FLs, and 145 GAs, which includes 4 more FAs. We did however lose one FL and 1 GAs over the past month, but we still gained overall.
The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute.
Member contest of the month
Given the lateness of the newsletter last month, the contest from last month continues. Anyone who can bring any of the few Stub class articles among the project's 1000 most often accessed articles by the end of June will get an award. Please see the details Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Project challenge of the month.
Welcome to the Ninth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
I am in the process of going through the various categories related to Christianity. I am finding that several of them may not have sufficient number of members to continue. By the end of the month, I hope to have the main category list finished (yeah, it might take that long, it's huge). At that time, I think we will review all the categories and see which may not have sufficient articles to continue. Please feel free to take part in the discussion regading what the minimum number of category items is, and how to deal with the non-qualifying categories, on the General Forum page.
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Pashto language
There is a problem with saying that Pashto is called Kabuli. Kabuli most often refers to the Persian dialect spoken in Kabul. I could understand that an Indian census would not discriminate between various Iranian languages, but I don't think that the reference you supplied clearly says that Pashto is referred to as Kabuli. Thoughts ? --Bejnar (talk) 21:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. I still don't think that one conglomeration (Afghani/Kabuli/Pashto) by the Indian Census constitutes an adequate basis for an encyclopedic statement that Kabuli is an alternate name for Pashto. In looking at the Ethnologue entry that you provided, I see that it distinguishes PASHTU: Kabuli language from:
Pashto, Southern: Kandahar Pashto,
Pashto, Southern: Qandahar Pashto,
Pashto, Southern: Quetta Pashto,
Pashto, Southern: Southeastern Pashto,,
Pashto, Southern: Southwestern Pashto,
PASHTU: Baluchi, and
PASHTU: Western
The article also notes that some users don't distinguish between PASHTU: Kabuli language and Farsi, Eastern: Dari: Kabuli. The fact that some people don't distinguish, is different than saying that one thing is called another. I do not think that a strong case can be made for calling Pashto by the name Kabuli. --Bejnar (talk) 22:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Recently few Users have massively revamped Uttar Pradesh article. Although any positive edits are welcomed but large scale revisions and revamps are advised to be done after discussion and consensus especially on articles of priority. As you have are member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Uttar Pradesh you are invited to participate in discussions on talk:Uttar Pradesh
Iravan, the son of Arjuna, is now our 85thgood article. How do we know this? Since last year, more processes have been automated, increasing productivity. Article alerts update the project with what's happening to India-related articles, from copyright violations to featured article candidates.
Currently, 11,086 Indian articles need images. Please improve these pages, especially if you enjoy photography! We look forward to more contributions from you. To get started, go to the noticeboard. »
From the editors…
The last newsletter was written a year ago. In June 2008, Indian Premier League was "hot" on Wikipedia, but the article about this year's IPL has attracted 477 editors, or 53% more than the previous year! Even the number of articles in the scope of our project jumped by a whopping 18,500+ articles in an year. The 3.2-year-old India quiz continues to attract old and new Wikipedians, so join in the fun!
Wikipedians are organizing a meetup in Bangalore on July 4 or 5. If you are interested, head over to the page and add your name! Topics of discussion include Indian language editions of Wikipedia and Wikimedia India.
"While this issue has been resolved, one asks the question – what happens when there is a conflict of opinions? What about a Wikipedia entry on India and Pakistan, or the LTTE and the Tamils? Who can edit? Will the information be true?" writes B. Narasimhan of MiD DAY as deeper implications of the Scientology arbitration case,1 reminding us of the core principles of verifiability and the neutral point of view.
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Pashto & Kabuli
Your claim that "Pashto" and "Kabuli" are synonyms is totally wrong. In fact, you are being contradicted by the Encyclopaedia Iranica, and I doubt that you can find any scholastic or official source that could eventually support your claim. "Kabuli" is the name of a very unique standardized dialect of the Persian language - this is confirmed in the Encyclopaedia Iranica. I frankly ask you to revert that false claim from the intro. Because even if your claim is true, i.e. that Indians call the language "Kabuli" (and I doubt that!), it still does not justify a bold entry in the first sentence of the article. Yuo won't be able to find a single English source supporting this claim. Thank you. Tajik (talk) 20:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Anupam. This is not about footnotes, it's about a totally wrong claim that is being established in the article. The equation of "Pashto" and "Kabuli" neither exists in Persian, nor in Pashto or - and that is the most important of all - in English. This is the English Wikipedia, and only the most common English expressions are to be used. The sources you provide are not realiable and do not fulfill the WP:SOURCE criteria. If the expression is common in Hindi or some other Indian language, then it should be mentioned in the respective Wikipedia. But not in this English language Wikipedia. The Encyclopaedia Iranica is a standard reference work of oriental studies, it is being published by the Columbia University, and it is directly contradicting your claim. "Kabuli" is a synonym for the Persian dialect of Kabul, the major language of the city. You won't be able to find one scholarly work - in english, Pashto, or Persian - that supports your claim. Tajik (talk) 20:35, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi and thanks for your comment. The source provided by Massagetae does not support his claim at all. It only says that the Pashto dialects in and near Kabul are designated "Kabuli". That is no surprise at all, because the word Kabuli is Persian for "from Kabul". That's also the reason why the Punjabi dialect of Afghan Hindus is called "Kabuli" and why the term is - almost exclusively - used as a synonym for the Persian dialect of Kabul. I do not understand why the term should be in the lead. It's not another name for Pashto, it is - at best - only the name of a certain dialect. That's like writing in the lead of the article English language that it is also known as "Texan" and "Baltimorese". Do you understand my point? Anyway, I had not deleted your info. I had moved it into the footnotes. The information simply is not as important as to be inserted in bold letters in the first sentence. Unless you cannot come up with really good sources that would support your claim that it is an established synonym for Pashto (which it is NOT), I will put it back into the footnotes. Tajik (talk) 23:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 76 FAs, 8 FLs, and 148 GAs. We gained new recognized content in each field, with 4 FAs promoted, 2 FLs, and 3 GAs. Congratulations and a big thank you to all those who worked on these articles!
I am still working on the categorization matter. With any luck, we should have some results by the end of the month. There are also some discussions regarding project related activities at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. One issue in particular that might be addressed is possible elections of new coordinators. Anyone interested in serving in such a capacity is more than welcome to indicate as much.
Related projects news
The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute.
Member contest of the month
The previous contests are still ongoing, because of the extreme amount of time the categorization is taking me. Anyone who can bring any of the few Stub class articles among the project's 1000 most often accessed articles by the end of July will get an award. Please see the details Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Project challenge of the month.
Welcome to the Tenth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
It has been a long time since the last coordinators election. There is a lot for people to do, and I certainly would welcome seeing any individuals with an interest in such a position put themselves forward as candidates. I in particular would very much like to see some degree of "specialization" in the coordinators, so that, for instance, we might have someone knowledgable about some of the specific Christian faith traditions or other main subjects, like Orthodoxy, Lutheranism, Mormonism, the Jehovah's Witnesses, art, theology, and so on. If any parties who have experience with some of our faith- or- subject-based content would be interested in being candidates, I would love to see them do so. Please feel free to take part in the discussion regading what the minimum number of category items is, and how to deal with the non-qualifying categories, on the General Forum page.
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WikiProject India Newsletter, Volume IV, Issue 2 – July 2009
A prolific editor and administrator, Bhadani is among the top ten Wikipedians by number of edits across the English Wikipedia. Congratulations to Bhadani for also making the most number of edits among Indian Wikipedians!
Wikipedia's India quiz remains a hotspot of the community by continuing to attract old and new Wikipedians. You are invited to join in and have fun!
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The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 75 FAs, 8 FLs, and 147 GAs, with a net loss of one FA and one GA. Our thanks to those who helped keep some other articles listed, and to those who have worked so diligently in improving all of our articles.
Member news
Three new members joined this past month, including new members User:116Calvinist, User:Lrnngrbc, and User:Frazz, bringing us up to 295 listed members. Thanks to you all, and a special welcome to our new members!
Other news
Two new pages for the benefit of members of the project have been created. Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Mutual aid society is designed to be a place where editors seeking specific assistance from other members can with luck find others who have the abilities or materials they need, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Special collections is, at this point, the beginnings of a list of publicly accessible special collections libraries which our members might find useful. Anyone who lives near one of the collections listed is encouraged to visit them and see if they can find anything they would like to read or use to improve some of our articles. There are always some discussions regarding project related activities at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. I think the timing of the call for elections might have been bad (summer vacation, what was I thinking?), and have thus changed the period for individuals to run to be one of the project's coordinators. Individuals who have a particular interest or knowledge of specific fields within Christianity are encouraged to run, to serve as a kind of "unit coordinator" for that topic.
Related projects news
The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute.
Welcome to the Eleventh issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
One area in particular need of attention right now is the content related to the Oriental Orthodox churches. Several of the topics within this field are of great importance, including the churches themselves, their histories, thinking, and some of the individuals associated with it. Unfortunately, the number of people who belong to the churches, and, correspondingly, the number of editors working on that content, is smaller than it could be. Anyone interested in helping to develop this content is more than welcome to look at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Oriental Orthodoxy page and seeing where they can help out.
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DYK for Qaisar Bagh
On August 22, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Qaisar Bagh, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Regarding Qaimganj, I was just trying to resolve the situation where there were two copies of the article. If the other name is right then put it there. Gigs (talk) 14:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Reply:
If Hindi is a Co official language then go and edit all the Indian articles. And Urdu is only a co-official foreign language in Guntur and Nellore of Coastal Andhra. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.66.46 (talk) 10:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why you changed "بھارت" to "ہندوستان" in Urdu translation? and
Why did you placed transliteration of Urdu text (i.e. "ہندوستان کی قومی داراُلحُکومت علاقے کی تشیع مسجدوں کی فہرست") in Hindi (i.e. "हिन्दुस्तान की क़ौमी दारुल हुकूमत इलाके की शिया मस्जिदों की फ़ेहरिस्त") by replacing Hindi translation (i.e. "भारत की राष्ट्रीय राजधानी छेत्र की शिया मस्जिदों की सूची")?
