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DYK for Title 42 appointment

On 15 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Title 42 appointment, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the U.S. Public Health Service can hire – but not fire – scientists "without regard to the civil-service laws" using a Title 42 appointment? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Title 42 appointment. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Title 42 appointment), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Please turn the "nanomaterials" sidebar into a navbar

Hi,
Would you consider reforming the Template:Nanomaterials sidebar into a navbar, to be placed at the bottom of the article? Please see Template talk:Nanomaterials for justification.
All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 22:06, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Competitive service

On 13 April 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Competitive service, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Competitive service. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Competitive service), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:16, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, is there a way to contact you privately?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdanese (talk • contribs) 03:18, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

@Pdanese: You can use the "Email this user" link in the left-hand menu. However, unless the message really requires secrecy, it's preferred to communicate on-wiki because it's transparent. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 06:03, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Prep 1 tweak

Hi, there is too much linking in your tweak of my hook. The link to the song name is causing run-on linking; is that link really necessary? Anyone who wants to know what the song is can click on the bolded subject. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 14:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I think your tweak distorts the hook fact. I've opened a discussion at WT:DYK#Prep 1: Choreographer. Yoninah (talk) 16:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for JJ Levine

On 24 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article JJ Levine, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Canadian photographic artist JJ Levine is known for portraits in which the same model depicts both the male and female members of a couple? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/JJ Levine. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, JJ Levine), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

valereee (talk) 00:02, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for History of the Caltech House System

On 25 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article History of the Caltech House System, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that while Caltech's historic South Houses were renovated, its North Houses were recommended for demolition for lack of architectural appeal? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/History of the Caltech House System. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, History of the Caltech House System), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:15, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for United States Solicitor of Labor

On 14 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article United States Solicitor of Labor, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Solicitor of Labor leads the second largest litigation department in the U.S. federal government? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/United States Solicitor of Labor. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, United States Solicitor of Labor), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Collingwood (mansion)

On 15 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Collingwood (mansion), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the historic Collingwood mansion in Virginia is expected to be demolished later this year? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Collingwood (mansion). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Collingwood (mansion)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Naval Medical Research Unit Dayton

On 22 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Naval Medical Research Unit Dayton, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Naval Medical Research Unit Dayton moved to Ohio from Bethesda, Maryland, in part because their building was about to be lost to termites? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Naval Medical Research Unit Dayton. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Naval Medical Research Unit Dayton), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Städtische Bühnen Frankfurt

Antony-22, the nominator has replied to your DYK review and added two new ALT hooks. Please return at your earliest convenience to continue the review. Many thanks. (If you will not be returning, please let me know and I'll look for another reviewer.) BlueMoonset (talk) 20:55, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Nanotechnology

I've relisted the MfD at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Nanotechnology per the outcome of the DRV. – Joe (talk) 20:35, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

As promised

Hi Antony-22, Sorry for the slight delay in geting back to you. Yes, you're correct to have doubts about flexibility of {{transclude lead excerpt}} to allow a balanced layout to be achieved for Portals with a selection of articles with varying sized lede sections etc.

I've maintaned the Scotland Portal for a number of years, and it's something I struggled with for a long time, trying to achieve a balanced layout on a single page with a list of articles. Setup within the one transclusion template, meant that all articles defaulted to whatever number of paragraphs and which file number were defined at the head of the template. I resolved to get around this by keeping the subpages but using the transclusion templates in the subpages instead of the main Portal page. The plus side to this was that all selected content would now be transcluded (the "content fork model" was strongly resisted in MFD'S, quite correctly in my view). The downside was that a forest of selected content subpages still existed. But I felt that was still an improvement, because no content was now forked. The result can be viewed at [1].

There were still issues to be solved that kept being flagged up in MFD's - frequent Lua /script errors; use of the purge mechanism to see new selected content. P:SCO has a large number of slected items (105 articles, 95 biographies) so the potential for Lua / Script errors was enormous, and they were quite frequent (you may even get a few checking my links - a few refreshes usually fixes them). So I decided to split the selected content between tabs and converted the entire portal to a tabbed layout using {{Start tab}} (other tab templates are available). I also thought the "purge for new content" mechanism was horrendously clunky, so I changed the selected content boxes to use one of the transclude as random slideshow templates (specifically {{Transclude excerpts as random slideshow }}). The result can be viewed in the current Scotland Portal.

There's still more work to do to convert it all to a proper "single page" soution and I've been working on this with Certes to find a fix. You may find it helpful to to see our discussions on all this at User_talk:Certes#Portal_Templates and User_talk:Certes#Wikilinks_in_excerpt_captions. Certes was one of the main developers of the various Lua modules and transclusion templates, and has been very helpful in all of this.

I hope this has been of some benefit to you and helps explain why I reluctantly voted delete at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Nanotechnology. If you need any further clarification or help on these matters, please ask. Best wishes. --Cactus.man ✍ 11:47, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

If you're seeing Lua errors, please report them at WT:WikiProject Portals/Design#Discussions about technical issues or let me know. As far as I'm aware, three of the 660 portals have Lua errors; these are due to them being too complex to generate in the 10 seconds allowed and we're testing a bot which fixes the issue by pre-processing sections in advance. Certes (talk) 12:00, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Please let me know if I can help improve the nanotechnology portal. As a general rule I don't intend to jump whenever a deletionist decides that some random portal Must Be Maintained Today, but this looks like an important test case where we can establish a precedent that fixable minor faults aren't a valid excuse for deletion. I'm no expert on the subject matter but I do know my way around the available templates etc. Certes (talk) 09:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Cactus.man and Certes: Thanks for the thorough discussion of the technical issues with automatic lead transclusions. My issue was still more with the content itself; some articles selected for the portal had very short leads of just a sentence or two, and these would need to be expanded for the transclusion to work. Not an insurmountable problem, and in fact it's good when portals cause improvements in article space, but it still requires some work.

Unfortunately, the deletion discussion resulted in a delete on policy grounds, which is surprising since there aren't any portal-specific policies that I'm aware of. If a new portal guideline is established, I might take a look at trying to reinstate the portal at that point. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 01:49, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Without guidelines, a depressingly wide range of valid excuses for deleting a portal are being accepted. The scope might be too narrow, or too broad, or both at once. Editors have started to invent and copy-paste (or even transclude) their own criteria. I have resumed opposition to some of the most egregious abuses and we'll see how those debates end in the next few days. Certes (talk) 08:55, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

@Antony-22: I understand exactly where you're coming from. I want to include Dolly in the Scotland Portal but the Lede section is a single sentence of just 28 words. An article rewrite is hard to justify "because it fits the Portal layout better". So I'm still searching for a workable solution. The obvious solution is to extend the scraping of content beyond the Lede section, to include other sections. Perhaps @Certes: could comment on whether the modules can be modified to accommodate this?

Good luck with any re-creation of the portal you may wish to undertake, and if you need any assistance with it, I'd be happy to help. --Cactus.man ✍ 09:56, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

The templates allow you to transclude Article#Section if that helps. If you want the lede too then you'll need templates for both. That may not sit well with portals which select one of several articles, but you could create a subpage which has two section transclusions (example) then transclude that subpage as an "article". Certes (talk) 11:17, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the response Certes. I thought something along these lines might be the compromise solution --Cactus.man ✍ 12:19, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

@Cactus.man and Certes: A once-sentence lead is not ideal for an article anyway; according to MOS:LEADLENGTH even the shortest articles should have a lead of one or two paragraphs. I feel one of the benefits of portals is that they can encourage improvements in article space. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 04:21, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes. A lead which is unsuitable for transclusion in a portal may also be unsuitable for introducing the article. The solution in such a case is to improve the lead so that it does both jobs well, then simply transclude it without any clever manipulation. That may be as simple as moving or copying a few sentences from later sections. That's a win for everyone (except those who view portal improvements as an obstacle to deletion). Certes (talk) 10:27, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lisa Gordon-Hagerty

On 12 October 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lisa Gordon-Hagerty, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Lisa Gordon-Hagerty (pictured), head of the U.S. National Nuclear Security Administration, once said, "I have more important things to do than advise Nicole Kidman"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lisa Gordon-Hagerty. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lisa Gordon-Hagerty), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Wiki science photo comp

I just noticed you're involved in the US wing of the wiki science photo comp. Do you know if there are any posters, form emails and other advertising materials to inform people about the competition? I'm happy to contact the Unis, student societies, photography clubs, and citizen science groups in Australia, but adapting existing materials would make a lot more sense than putting everything together again from scratch. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 01:22, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

@Evolution and evolvability: We didn't do anything like that last in the U.S. time around, though it sounds like a good idea. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 04:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikimedia Ireland just sent me a couple of examples that they've used as .ai files, so I'll convert to .svg and to add to commons so that they can be adapted. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 04:20, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, here you can find another poster. More importantly, I see c:Category:Images from Wiki Science Competition 2019 in the United States is still empty (there are two unsuitable files now but it has been for day) so please support this request and also leave a comment for a site notice. Bye!--Alexmar983 (talk) 01:42, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

@Alexmar983: I was wondering why I wasn't seeing the site banner. Yes, we got nearly all of our entries from last year as a result of the banner, so it's important to get it up ASAP. If there's a delay, I may extend the U.S. competition later. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 05:02, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

No problem for the delay, we can discuss with User:Kruusamägi, but please just ask for the sitenotice on meta asap, we need to show we nned them. God knows how much time it takes to get some of them. Than I will prepare a mass message for previous uploader but i don't have all the time in the world so the sitenotice is the crucial step--Alexmar983 (talk) 11:10, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Chad Wolf

On 29 November 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chad Wolf, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that acting U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf stated that, as chief of staff, it was not his responsibility to determine whether the Trump administration family separation policy was right or wrong? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chad Wolf. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Chad Wolf), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Upcoming editathon with National Academies in DC

Hi Antony/ There's an upcoming editathon in Washington, DC that I think would interest you. Would you like to be involved in the planning for it, and/or help at the event? It looks as if a focus will be on carbon dioxide removal and carbon sequestration. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 21:43, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Intelligence Community Campus-Bethesda

On 21 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Intelligence Community Campus-Bethesda, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Intelligence Community Campus-Bethesda buildings in Maryland were originally built without windows to conceal the classified work going on inside? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Intelligence Community Campus-Bethesda. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Intelligence Community Campus-Bethesda), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 21 December 2019 (UTC)