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Hello, AntientNestor. Thank you for your work on Laverstock ware. Storye book, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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Storye book (talk) 17:33, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Laverstock ware

You may have noticed that I have added a citation with an over-long quote in it. I accept that you might feel that the length of the quotation is overwhelming, but I thought that at least you might want to know what is in the citation. The date 1958 means that the quote is not yet out of copyright, but - should you wish - you could perhaps rephrase any useful bits, and include that in the article with the citation, then delete the over-long quote from the citation. Or you could put the quote on the talk page with its source - out of the way but still maybe useful. Up to you. Hope that helps. Storye book (talk) 18:43, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

I had a PAYG account on that site, but my credits timed out before I could use them! What I'm looking for right now is a ref that would pass WP:DYK, preferably incorporating the stuff's usefulness in modern archaeology. If The Sphere piece would do that, I'd renew and get full access. Thanks.--AntientNestor (talk) 21:40, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Genes Reunited used to give access to the same newspaper collection - maybe it still does. If so, the subscription may be less than the BNA sub. Also, when you get a new reader card (or renew it) from the British Library, you get about 3 months free access to the BNA website, if I remember rightly - again, worth checking. If you are a member of your nearest large public library (e.g. a city library), you may be able to get free online access via your library card to the BNA and other research items. It's worth checking out. You shouldn't need to live in the same city as the library, to obtain its library card. I use a library card from a city 20+ miles away from me, to access Who's Who etc. Although I must admit, that since my research means that I'm using the BNA website almost daily, I prefer to pay the ridiculously high sub, because the search facility is better there than via all the other options. Hope that helps.
Re DYK - I believe the article would pass DYK, but I can't comment on a hook that I haven't seen. Meanwhile, the article in The Sphere only discusses what they found in the trenches in that particular dig. It does not comment on principles such as "usefulness in modern archaeology". I was unable to find any more articles on Laverstock ware in the BNA - probably because it does not have many microfilm photos of newspapers after World War I, and the first dig was 1940. Have you joined The Wikipedia Library? There surely must be a journal article or two about Laverstock ware? Storye book (talk) 08:30, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
I'll go through the ref you provided and probably trim it, as you suggest—Musty et al covers the excavation comprehensively, apart from the pictures. I only started to pay for BNA when cuts at my local library stopped access (and a lot of other resources as well), so I'm not hopeful there. --AntientNestor (talk) 10:41, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Good idea. I only included such a long quote because I thought you would want to know what was in it, but now you've seen it, it can go. Re the library - don't forget, you can probably join another city library, wherever you actually live in the UK - it's worth checking. Also, I believe the Gale organisation has access to the BNA, maybe for free, within the Wikipedia Library. Worth a punt? Storye book (talk) 18:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
I'll get on with this over the next couple of days. Gale's coverage of the London Times is complete but for UK provincial papers it's very patchy and only goes back for forty years—disappointing after the BNA. My local public library requires that you turn up from time-to-time and borrow a book, or else your card lapses—I wouldn't want to have to travel too far! All the best.--AntientNestor (talk) 22:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for all your research and suggestions.--AntientNestor (talk) 17:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
That's a nice article, now. I look forward to seeing it at DYK. Even if you're not quite ready, it's worth bagsying the date before you miss the 7-day deadline. It is permissible to then say on the DYK template that it will be ready for review shortly. I have been thinking that at some time in the (distant?) future, how nice it would be to get someone to visit the Brit Mus archive and photograph the jug for WP. Here's hoping. Storye book (talk) 19:07, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

I didn't know you could do that with DYK. Watch this space, and thanks again.--AntientNestor (talk) 21:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Stanton Williams projects

Hi AntientNestor. You've contacted me about changes I've recently made to pages regarding projects by the architectural firm Stanton Williams. Would you be able to explain your concerns further to me so I can make sure there aren’t any problems?

When I have made the edits, I stated (with the exception of the very first few before I received your first message) that I am doing the changes on behalf of Stanton Williams. Is that sufficient information, or should I also spell out that they are paying me to do this?

The changes are to add factual information - ie crediting them for their work on making the building in question what it is today.  Is this allowable? Please let me know if you can suggest how I should rephrase any additions to the pages that you feel are problematic. Any advice would be very welcome.

Thank you

PJaneB (talk) 21:59, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

There's a specific template you could use on the talk pages of the relevant articles: Template:Connected contributor. You also need to make a declaration on your own talk page. Full instructions here. AntientNestor (talk) 22:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. I have found the template and added in my user name: {{Connected contributor (paid)|User1=PJaneB|U1-employer=InsertName|U1-client=Stanton Williams|U1-otherlinks=Insert relevant links, such as relevant affiliations, disclosures, article drafts written by paid editors, or diffs showing paid contributions being added to articles.}}. Is this sufficient? Where exactly do I paste this on the talk page and is this correct in this form? I want to do the correct thing, but I am new to this so apologies for all the queries. PJaneB (talk) 17:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
It's usually the first line of the article's talk page—example here. None of your additions seem exceptionable, but the proper way for you to proceed is to place your proposed text on the talk page of the article in question, requesting a disinterested editor review it and add it for you. As a volunteer reviewer, I would do this if you leave me a note. AntientNestor (talk) 17:37, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Laverstock ware

On 23 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laverstock ware, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Laverstock ware pottery was produced to supply the royal palace at Clarendon, but was also used all over the south of England? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laverstock ware. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Laverstock ware), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


DYK AOK and other TLA

Thanks for creating an interesting article, I have reviewed your DYK submission and IMO it is GTG. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:14, 19 February 2024 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/_John_Williams_Reynolds

Anne Boleyn

The space is required for what? The only effect it had was to break them. DuncanHill (talk) 17:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm no good at {{sfn}}, as you've pointed out to me in the past (and I was certainly wrong then). It's just that, whatever format is being used, H:SFN always requires a space between author and year, never "Hibbert1971".--AntientNestor (talk) 18:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for John Williams Reynolds

On 2 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John Williams Reynolds, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a well-publicized conflict with a superior officer led British cavalry officer John Williams Reynolds to take a break from his military career, study chemistry and discover propylene? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/ John Williams Reynolds. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, John Williams Reynolds), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Brigandyne

On 3 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Robert Brigandyne, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Robert Brigandyne constructed the first purpose-built dry dock in England, after King Henry VII's new warships grew too big to be repaired on mudbanks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Brigandyne. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Robert Brigandyne), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Ron Daniels (director) AfC accept

Ron Daniels (director) included extensive copyright violations from the subject's own website at the time you accepted it out of AfC, which in addition to being a copyright issue is also a neutrality issue. Please do not accept articles with such issues out of AfC in the future. signed, Rosguill talk 17:02, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't agree. At the time there was one reference from the subject's own web page, out of 91. Before accepting I checked and removed about eight unsatisfactory references. AntientNestor (talk) 17:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
I'm not talking about a notability assessment, I'm talking about the fact that text was taken outright from the subject's personal website, as you can see from this copyvios report signed, Rosguill talk 18:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Larmanjat guided rail system

On 8 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Larmanjat guided rail system, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Larmanjat guided rail system was successfully demonstrated in England but failed completely when used commercially in Lisbon? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Larmanjat guided rail system. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Larmanjat guided rail system), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:04, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Fairglen Additions for deletion

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Eastmain (talk • contribs) 16:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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