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1 Zionism 2024-11-26 20:07 2024-11-27 22:21 4 1107 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
2 Hey! 2024-11-27 22:50 2024-11-27 23:00 3 920 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
3 Palestine-Israel articles 5 arbitration case opened 2024-11-30 05:42 2024-12-14 23:59 2 1103 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
4 "HAL America" listed at Redirects for discussion 2024-11-30 08:20 2024-11-30 08:20 1 804 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
5 Arbcom evidence about me 2024-12-05 22:21 2024-12-05 22:25 2 1381 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
6 your evidence at ... 2024-12-06 22:16 2024-12-06 22:18 2 804 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
7 Palestine-Israel articles 5 updates 2024-12-08 03:20 2024-12-21 23:59 3 2346 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
8 1936 to 1939 Arab, revolt 2024-12-08 06:24 2024-12-09 19:58 2 833 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
9 "Frank Mrvan" listed at Redirects for discussion 2024-12-09 19:44 2024-12-09 19:58 2 1070 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
10 Continued discussion from Arbcom page 2024-12-15 22:23 2024-12-15 22:25 2 1356 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
11 Anthropology 2024-12-15 23:42 2024-12-15 23:48 2 2536 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
12 Re: The Heart Knows its Own Bitterness 2024-12-22 20:28 2024-12-22 23:28 7 2270 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
13 re Special:Diff/1264850497 2024-12-23 22:05 2024-12-23 22:12 2 599 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67
14 Happy Holidays 2024-12-24 23:56 2024-12-27 22:21 3 1468 User talk:AndreJustAndre/Archives/67


Zionism

I hope will be able to change the lead togetherย :-) Michael Boutboul (talk) 20:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thanks, but who knows. It's a fairly bitterly contested article with a lot of opinions. Andre๐Ÿš 20:08, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Should we ask for an arbitration committee? Michael Boutboul (talk) 22:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's an ARBPIA starting soon, but it won't rule on content issues per se. Maybe you mean WP:DRN? But, in my opinion, probably not that helpful at the present time. Andre๐Ÿš 22:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey!

Hey, Man in a Van, you changed your username! I'm glad I still see the van in your sig, tho'! Bishonen | tรฅlk 22:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Seconded! bishzilla ROARR!! pocket 22:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Hey! Thanks for dropping by!ย :-D It was time for a change but maybe not such a big change! BTW, Bishzilla, you've got something hooked on your left incisor. Andre๐Ÿš 23:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Palestine-Israel articles 5 arbitration case opened

You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5/Evidence. Please add your evidence by 23:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC), which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Introduction. For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocustย ๐Ÿ’ฌ 05:42, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arbcom evidence about me

Levivich appears to consider Mohammad Shahid Alam, an economist, and a pair of law school deans reliable sources on Zionism Please look again at the diff you linked and double check whether I am using "a pair of law school deans" as "reliable sources on Zionism," or if I cited them as reliable sources on American democracy. While you're at it, I'd rethink the suggestion that "Alam OK, Dershowitz not OK" is some kind of problem. Levivich (talk) 22:21, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yes, I added "history of democracy," [1] but if you think it's still unclear, I'll take another swag at it. Yes, I am aware you don't think "Alam OK, Dershowitz not OK" is a problem, but I believe it is a problem if you exclude Dershowitz but not Alam as to me, they are both polarized activist academics, but opposed. Andre๐Ÿš 22:25, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

your evidence at ...

... Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel_articles_5/Evidence#Evidence_presented_by_Andre

You might want to wiki link Dershowitz: yes, us "regulars" are in not much doubt about which Dershowitz you mean, but others might not, cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:16, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ย Done, thanks, [2] Andre๐Ÿš 22:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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1936 to 1939 Arab, revolt

Hi I saw your comments on the Arab revolt page and completely agree that the current writings are biased and untrue. If you look back in the talk page you can see the person who changed it. I commented asking them to change it back to the more neutral language. Since you seem to know the inner workings of Wikipedia well who can we appeal to to get the biased language changed? Thanks. 1Rudster (talk) 06:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid you'll need to come back after making 500 edits due to WP:ARBECR. Andre๐Ÿš 19:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Frank Mrvan has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 9 ยงย Frank Mrvan until a consensus is reached. โ€”CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk โ€ข {Cโ€ขX}) 19:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I argued that in 2022. Andre๐Ÿš 19:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Continued discussion from Arbcom page

Apologies for my misunderstanding of the issue as I was reading the citation's excerpt & foolishly forgot to check the actual context it was used for.

While I still believe Nadia Abu El Haj makes significant points worthy of inclusion, I agree that this -

"A Jewish "biological self-definition" has become a standard belief for many Jewish nationalists, and most Israeli population researchers have never doubted that evidence will one day be found, even though so far proof for the claim has "remained forever elusive"."

is an inaccurate claim & that it misunderstands the point she is making entirely. She isn't saying that there will never be proof of shared genetics among Jews. Instead, she points out that, at the time, even when the science wasn't there yet to prove it, it was treated as a guaranteed truth regardless, with research being driven to retroactively prove that conclusion. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 22:23, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Butterscotch, and no need to apologize. Andre๐Ÿš 22:25, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anthropology

Hello there. I read what you wrote about El-Haj, and you really don't understand how broad Anthropology can get. I majored in Socio-Cultural Anthropology. Our academic system is rather weird; my title is called a "Licenciatura," for which you need to take a year as a general intro and then five years of the actual career. To earn the degree, you need to write a thesis and defend it to a jury of professors. I don't know what the equivalent title would be in other countries.

There are, as well, two specializations from which you are forced to choose one, and they comprise around 2/5ths of all classes. I majored, as I said, in the Socio-Cultural branch, but there's also Archaeological Anthropology, which has a heavier emphasis on biology.

My main point is that even I had biology as part of the curriculum. I had to study genetics and, mainly, population genetics. Dealing with allele frequencies is basic stuff. And remember that those who specialize in Archaeology have several more biology-related classes. 2800:250A:B:FC5C:F4B7:217E:324D:EA90 (talk) 23:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's a huge difference between studying something at the undergrad level or taking a few 100-level biology classes for science seminar or science gened requirement for your undergrad degree in anthropology, and being an expert on the topic of genetic research who publishes papers on that topic. It's true that the basics of genetics would be covered in a broad overview of biology. That doesn't qualify El-Haj to write critical stuff about actual geneticists. We don't qualify people to be expert Wikipedia sources who have an undergrad-level understanding of a topic. To become an expert, you need to not only probably have a master's and a PhD, but also practice your field for a number of years. Harry Ostrer is a professor of genetics and medicine for over 20 years at a top institution and director of a genetics testing department for a top hospital. It's absurd to say that El-Haj has a parity level that she should be used at his expense because she studied it for requirements in undergrad. Hear how absurd that sounds, anon? Andre๐Ÿš 23:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re: The Heart Knows its Own Bitterness

If you have some time, can you provide a second opinion of Template:Did you know nominations/The Heart Knows its Own Bitterness (Talmud)? I think there's definitely been some improvements since my previous review, but I need an outside POV to move the DYK forward. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 20:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure I'll check it out later Andre๐Ÿš 20:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I appreciate it. If you do a review or have any comments, also make a note on the DYK talk page, as I raised the question there as well. Viriditas (talk) 20:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. I'm watching last night's SNL now Andre๐Ÿš 21:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Poor Scarlett. Once that image of roast beef came on the screen, we all knew what was next. The image of the baby was hilarious. Probably Che's funniest joke of all time. Viriditas (talk) 21:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They're getting a lot of mileage out of Jost in this one. I wonder how he'll do as the Celeb Jeopardy host. CelebJhost? Actually, I think my favorite part was probably the cold open. Melissa McCarthy steals the show as usual. Andre๐Ÿš 23:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I was waiting for her to jump through a window or a wall, and she didn't disappoint, however she outdid herself in the parking sketch, which turned it up to 11. Viriditas (talk) 23:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Andre, Just wanted to make sure you knew that Loveforwiki was blocked as a sockmaster, not as a sock of a previously banned user, so WP:BANREVERT wouldn't apply. Thanksย :) theleekycauldron (talk โ€ข she/her) 22:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, my mistake... Andre๐Ÿš 22:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello AndreJustAndre, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025.
Happy editing,

Abishe (talk) 23:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 23:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

and a chag sameach to all. Andre๐Ÿš 22:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]