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== A short Esperanzial update ==
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.
It's okay. Most of us above 10 on the Top20 are equally addicted as you. Though none of us made superb vandal fighting programs... FreddieMessage?00:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, Get well soon!
Anyways, your relatives might have faced Hitler's wrath...And, may be thats why you are spewing venom....
But remember, you have to talk about history in "unbiased" way. If you twist facts and try to brain wash people, it will not work. May for some time, people will believe in you. But, truth cannot hide.
Why did you not talk about some of the facts that were true as reported in Mein Kampf? Only then, you can rightfully criticise the book. Remeber, this book had a tremendous impact and nobody bothers who you are. So, donot belittle the book on false pretense. Work hard and and give impartial evidences. For eg.- I can say that it was a lie that people didnot read it.
Please be sensible. You have every right to denounce Hitler but then whine about it in private. On public forum, be ready to present facts. Then, every one would accept your views.
Try to criticise jews too...And, then show how terrible Hitler was. People didnot buy in with Hitler just like that. They agreed on some of the points he placed.
Ami please forgive me for editing your page but the formatting of that comment bordered on criminal. It's content is probably not criminal, but it kind of boggles the mind...Doc Tropics05:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid you may be contacting the wrong person. I'm not even sure I've ever edited the article on Mein Kampf, nor have I anywhere professed my opinion on the matter. Yet no matter whom you are attempting to contact, you should refrain from making personal attacks and otherwise being disruptive. Incivility will acomplish nothing more than forcing others to disregard your opinions, and it may also lead to your being blocked. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
supposed vandalism
Hi, I just got this note on my log in and was wondering what it was about. It seems I may have done my regular editing and corrections and forgotten to Log In? Perhaps you can enlighten me and let me know where and what and when this occurred WayneRay13:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)WayneRay[reply]
I'm afraid you going to be a little bit more specific before I can help you. Have you been blocked? Or did you receive a message on your talk page from me? AmiDaniel (talk) 21:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It said I was blocked from editing with no explanation as to what I had done. It wasn't on my talk page it just appeared as I logged on and I haven't seen the notice since then. I can only assume it was my deep editing and deletions of the red dead links on the lists of various poets pages I was working on, everything else was minor. I will put a copy of this on your talk page incase you dont see the response on mine. WayneRay00:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)WayneRay[reply]
Kosovo War Page
Time to unprotect it, change date to June 11th and as it was before... this polish dude started vandalizeing it.
I think unprotection would be a very bad idea at the moment. I'd like to advice you to pursue dispute resolution or at least try having a civil, mature conversation about the article. I will unprotect once an agreement has been reached by all involved parties. Also, please refrain from referring to good-faith contributors as having "vandalized"--that's highly inappropriate, and such personal attacks are not well-tolerated by the Wikipedia community. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Antonio Vernon "Tony The Tiger (martial artist)"
Ami,
It seems you are part of the process that has deleted my wiki article. This process has obviously been determined by a bunch of people who don't know martial arts. It seems like the bulk of the complaints are either disbelievers or pilers on who don't have any substantive complaints. I am at this point unsure if I have been deleted because people don't believe all the things on the page or because the people believe the person as described is non-notable. I believe the votes were a case of the former and not the later. Tony The Tiger22:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I assume you're speaking of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antonio Vernon (please provide direct links, as it's sort of a pain to dig up the deleted content of redirects to find out what you're talking about). Anyway, the article was deleted through an overwhelming AfD consensus, and while you're always free to seek a deletion review, I think it quite unlikely that the deletion would be overturned. However, if you'd like me to, I will gladly restore the article and move it into your userspace where it's quite unlikely to be deleted again. Let me know of anyway that I can help you. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 01:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The article has now been userfied to User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon. No, you cannot create a redirect from Antonio Vernon or any other page in main article namespace, as they will be speedily deleted per WP:CSD#R2. Also, please do not add the article into any categories or use templates that may connect it back to the main namespace, and do not move it back into the main article namespace. Let me know if you need my help with anything else. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I just draw this map of Nakhichevan region and intended to post it into Nakhichevan article, but I noticed that article is protected and it was you who done this. So, can you post this map into article instead of me? I did not read about what dispute in that article is, but I do not think that this map will be disputed for anybody. You can post map somewhere in "History" or "Geography" section. PANONIAN(talk)15:05, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The first link is freepository, which has problems downloading from FF/Opera. You can solve the problem pretty easily either by adding .exe to the filename, or you can download using Internet Explorer. The second one was being mirrored by User:Nathanrdotcom, but I guess he's stopped mirroring it. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Repeated vandalism... in your dreams!
Why hello AmiDaniel, my name is also Daniel. I don't know if this actually is the appropriate place to do this, but I'm a little annoyed and can't find anywhere better so it'll have to do I suppose..
You just blocked me, and I was in the middle of editing Hereditary elliptocytosis. The comment was, if I remember correctly, 'Repeated vandalism despite final warning. User was blocked using VP.'. I'd like to know why I was blocked, and I'd like to know where my final warning was posted (and all the others which I've been accused of accruing) - it certainly wasn't on my own talk page. The only thing I can possibly imagine I've done to incur your considerable wikiwrath is to change American/Canadian spelling to Australian spelling, but I've only done that in the course of improving articles for other reasons in order to maintain consistancy throughout the article (without encouraging/endorsing "incorrect" spelling). I'm not sure that that really counts as vandalism, do you?
Anyway... this all seems wierd to me, and I'd like not to be blocked anymore (or at least be told what I did wrong!).
Hello Mr. Adams, I apologize that you were unable to edit this morning; however, if you'll have a look at your block log, you'll see that neither I nor any other administrator has intentionally blocked your account. As Glen stated above, what happened is that you're likely connected through a shared IP address (Glen indicated that you were connected through 202.6.138.33, which is an Adamnet IP--I have no way verifying this for certain) and someone connected through that IP was vandalizing. By blocking the IP address, it then blocked all users, logged-in or not, from editing through this IP, which resulted in the collateral damage that was your being unable to edit. This is an unfortunate mishap that often occurs when blocking IP addresses, and currently there is no way to prevent such collateral damage from occurring (although a temporary fix is in the works). If this ever occurs again, please add {{unblock}} to your talk page, along with the full text of the block message, who blocked you, and your IP address, and the block will be removed as soon as possible. Also if you can get back to me with your IP address (check my log or try logging out and signing with ~~~ somewhere if you are unsure what your IP address is), I will attempt to take preventitive measures to keep you from being blocked in the future. Thanks for your understanding, and feel free to contact me if you have any questions or need help with anything else. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yay!!! Thank you so much; I absolutely love your query API. I owe pretty much all the credit for my next release of VandalProof to you. Let me go try them out and see if everything works right. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Minor problem :( The queries are ok, but there are indexes missing, so its not fast at all. Make sure you comment on the bugs (linked from query home page). --Yurik05:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I wonder if you could have a quick look at this page for me? A single editor, 74.12.79.132, is making lots of apparently contentious POV edits, and I'm wondering how best to tackle this. When reverted, he/she simply reverts back again, without comment. In recent weeks, other editors seem to have pretty well given up on this page. I'm reluctant to get into an edit war here, which I'm fairly sure would happen if I smply deleted some of the changes that have been made. I don't yet have much experience of dealing with this, and I'd appreciate any advice you can give. Do you think the edits are such obvious POV that they count as vandalism? --MichaelMaggs14:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Parsing of Tool2
I'm going to try and write a small bot to parse Interiot's Tool2 in various ways, but I cna't just grab the HTML as it obviously requires JavaScript. How do you have it hidden in VP? I hope to use VB.net (yes, I know ;), so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. —Xyrael/ 19:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your help. as a token of my greatfulness i reward you with Che.
No problem. Sorry about all the inconvenience last night--there's a bug with the autoblocker when accounts are indef-blocked that's often quite a pain to repair. Let me know if I can do anything else for you. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Since the rename (to Tree Biting Conspiracy) TBC mod edits have been rejected [2][3][4]. I believe this may be because you used spaces rather then underscores when you set him/her as a moderator, but that is just a wild guess. Prodegotalk17:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm ... yes, User:Eagle 101 has had similar problems with this, and apparently mboverload still isn't being recognized as a mod. I'm not entirely sure what's going on, as User:AmiDaniel TestAccount (which has a space) has had no problems being recognized as a mod. This will hopefully be fixed with the next release with the new organization of userlists, etc. On another note, I asked Essjay if he could use my help as RfCU clerk, and he told me to talk to you, so I was wondering if you could use any assistance over there, as I'd like to help out in anyway I can. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, really? I had no idea I was an unofficial 'lead clerk', although I did (with the help of Thacher and Essjay) set up the subpage system. Help is always appreciated, especially admin help. Notably there is a lack of following up, blocking confirmed malicious socks. Other then that we are pretty good. Prodegotalk22:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Note that a lot of help is needed in transferring old RfCUs over to the new system, although you do not need to be a clerk to do that. ;-) Prodegotalk23:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, well, I'll go ahead and add my name to the clerks then, and let me know what needs to be done. As for converting the old reports to the new format--that sounds like something a bot would be good at. Have you thought about requesting one? I'd be glad to code it if I could get approval. AmiDaniel (talk) 00:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Protection
My userpage only should be updated to full-protection. Talk page stays at semied. ForestH2 not logged in. ForestH2 01:21 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi there: sorry to see that you're experiencing health problems.
You just blocked me, although only for a few minutes, apparently under the impression that I was a user called, I think, Polikarpos. I don't suppose you would care to explain to me what precipitated this, given that that I am leading a blameless and productive Wiki-life?--Anthony.bradbury20:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have not blocked your actual account, as you can see from your block log, and so it sounds you like you were autoblocked. Polikarpos doesn't ring a bell with me, but he may well have been someone I blocked, and so what happened is that this blocked user attempted to edit, causing the IP address he was using to be autoblocked. Then you went to edit from that IP address causing the autoblock to trigger and block your account. I'd guess you're probably connected through a shared IP adress (if you're using AOL, Verizon, Adamnet, etc.) or otherwise using a connection that was used by this blocked user. In any case, neither I nor any other administrator has intentionally blocked your account. Should this happen again in the future, please add {{unblock}} to your talk page along with the full block message you see when attempting to edit, including your IP address, who blocked you, and which blokced user attempted to edit through your IP address. Sorry for the inconvenience. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, fine; but I am not using a shared IP address - I am on a home PC and there is only me here. But thank you for your answer. I am not on AOL Verizon, Adamnet, etc. My ISP is BT Yahoo.--Anthony.bradbury23:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As Prodego has pointed out, the blocked user in question was Politakis. I was not able to get back to reconfirm his name. That was a worrying episode. Am I being over-sensitive?--Anthony.bradbury17:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's embarassing!! I was trying out a new tool written by User:MichaelBillington, and when I went to revert an edit to the article Pea, I suddenly found myself pasting the contents of Christianity on the Main page. This is why you shouldn't try out foreign tools while logged in as an admin!!! Sorry about that. =D AmiDaniel (talk) 09:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Natalya. I'm actually feeling quite a bit better now, well enough at least to respond to posts on my talk page =D. AmiDaniel (talk) 23:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
New AWB features
Martin, what is your vision for this functionality? Are you planning on challenging VandalProof for the role of defacto antivandalism tool, or at least take part of its marketshare? --mboverload@ 08:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
lol, well I don't really gain much from market share, and to be honest I haven't used VandalProof, but from what I can see it looks like it [VandalProof?] would gain a lot from using the IRC feed. At the moment this program doesnt even do the same thing as VandalProof, as it doesnt have any of the stuff to rollback, however it will do soon hopefully. Of course anyone is welcome to help in its construction. Martin 08:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's already been pointed out to me by User:Mboverload and it does look quite impressive; however, I personally never liked live RC feeds, always felt way to overwhelming to me. I may consider doing something like that in the future, but for now I'm just going to wait and see how 1.3 is received by the masses. AmiDaniel (talk) 23:41, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please review an deletion made contrary to consensus
That is: 27-10 to keep. While I know that it’s not a strict vote-counting exercise, the usual rule of thumb is not to delete unless there is a strong consensus expressed to do so – i.e., give the benefit of the doubt toward keeping. Here, process was thwarted.
The administrator closing the AfD acted contrary to the consensus expressed at the AfD by making his/her own judgment that the content was not encyclopedic. The whole issue of alternate placenames is very much encyclopedic and has been the subject on ongoing debate among Wikipedians, for example at: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names) and the various disputes about whether to use “Danzig” or “Gdansk” for that city near the Baltic, etc.. Also, similar articles remain extant in several other Interwiki’s (since the article is deleted, the interwiki links are gone too, otherwise I could cite which), so they appear encyclopedic to people who speak other languages. Please restore the articles. Carlossuarez4618:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It looks as though another admin has undone the deletion. In the future, the best way to contest an admin's decision on an AfD would be to seek a deletion review, after contacting the closing admin of course. Most admins are quite reasonable and willing to admit when they have made mistakes, so often times simply contacting them is the best approach. 23:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for approving my request for vandal proof. When I try to log on I get "Your log-in request failed". I've checked the user name several times so I think that's correct. Any suggestions? Ucanlookitup23:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
got it! thanks for redirecting my user page - I've been meaning to do that!
Please help!
I noticed that you are part of the anti-vandalism unit, so I thought I would contact you. An article recently has been vandalised a lot. The article is on the furry fandom. One user, who seems to be using different names is repeatedly deleting sections of the article, and some the whole article. He/she has also vandalised the talk page a view times. We always correct the article back again, but the vandal keeps seem to return. Can you please help us? Can you help make it a protected article so that this sort of thing stops? ISD18:07, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really think that there's enough vandalism to justify protection; however, I did add it to the watchlist for the IRC bots, which will likely help keep it under control. Let me know if there's any other way that I can help you. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:31, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but the Furry fandom page is still being vandalised. Is there anything else you can do please? I think the vandalism is so much, that perhaps protection might be an a reasonable course of action? ISD09:48, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi AmiDaniel. I have a couple of quick questions that are about javascript. (at least I think they're about javascript)
How can I incorporate my VandalProof stats onto my user page?
Your status changer light is really awesome, could you please tell me how it works and how to install the js code? (I'm assuming it's javascript as I don't know what else it would be)
2. Speaking as the person who coded half of aforementioned awesome status changer light, (or, rather, stole bits and pieces and made them work like AmiDaniel's old system), check out User:AmiDaniel/Status and User:AmiDaniel/StatusDiv. It should be fairly apparent how it works; It's done by hand.
The first template just has the second template, and the switch for the second template. You would put the desired status as the switch in the first template. Ergo: you go to /Status and change {{User:Tobes00//Status|sleeping}} to {{User:Tobes00/Status|online}}, and it changes the status on all pages where {{Status}} is. You never put {{StatusDiv}} anywhere but within {{Status}}, and you only need one click for universal fixings. --Avillia(Avillia me!)04:59, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi — seems that the pages FREE and Free have been vandalized by a series of different IPs, but possibly the same person, as the edits are quite similar. I didn't go back far enough in my first reverts, so had to go back again and find the last good versions. — ERcheck (talk) @ 09:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You deleted two images from the page Haris Cizmic. They were most likely uploaded by user:Djedamrazuk. I have reason to believe that this is Mr. Cizmic, and the images are representative of his own work.
I was involved in a rather heated AfD over his page, and the matter was eventually resolved with the page being fixed. I do not believe that this is a sockpuppet of Primetime, although being unfamiliar with that user and the actions that got him banned, I cannot comment on that further.
I wasn't the one who blocked User:Djedamrazuk, and I agree that his contribs don't bear a strong connection to User:Primetime; however, User:Dmcdevit (the admin who blocked the user) ran a CheckUser on him immediately before blocking as a sockpuppet of Primetime, so I'm assuming the claim of sockpuppetry was substantiated by CheckUser evidence (I'm still seeking confirmation from Dmcdevit on this point though). After Dmcdevit blocked the user, he asked me to clear out his 35+ image uploads, which I did. If the user is a sockpuppet of Primetime as Dmcdevit has indicated, then the deletions are justified by WP:CSD#G5 and should not be overturned, nor would there be any indication that he is the original author of these images. I'm highly suspect of the licensing on these images uploaded by User:Lionette as well, as they appear to be copyrighted or screenshots of copyrighted web pages, yet they are tagged as GFDL-self. Let me look over this all a bit more, and I'll get back to you. Thanks for your note though. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
series of photos that looks bogus to you
Hello
I am Haris Cizmic, designer, the author or co-author of images you mentioned
(Image:Axa adisa.jpg, Image:Haris video.jpg, Image:Harisc 7.jpg, Image:Harisc 6.jpg, Image:Harisc 5.jpg, Image:Harisc 4.jpg, Image:Harisc 3.jpg, Image:Harisc 2.jpg, Image:Harisc 1.jpg, Image:Haris 1.jpg, Image:Axa live.jpg, Image:Axa logo1.jpg, Image:Mix1.jpg, Image:Image 33256.jpg The whole lot was claimed to be GFDL-self. Looks pretty bogus to me. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
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They all are, indeed, GFDL-self. They are entirely done by myself & my business partner, photographer Scott Sprague (sspraguephoto.com). Please do not delete them, because they are important part in some articles. However, will add some more summary to clear the whole thing up.
thank you,
Haris
VandalProof
Hello!
I code at the moment my own anti-vandal-tool in VB6, too; and I have some problems and hope you can answer me these:
1) How do you get the RC feed (and how do you parse it; VBs RegExp library sucks)
2)how do you do control the IE (why on earth does the attribute POST in brwWeb.Navigate() not work?
PS: If you want the sourcecode, email me at cdl-klever AT gmx DOT net
Heya HardDisk, sorry for taking so long to respond--I've been out of things recently (your post even got archived before I had a chance to respond!). Anyway, as you're not the only requesting this, I went ahead and uploaded the source I'm using in v1.3 to scrape the RSS feed to User:AmiDaniel/VP/RSS source. If you have any questions about how it works, feel free to ask. As for controlling the IE browser--they certainly did not make it easy, and there's really no documentation anywhere. The only way I found to manipulate it was using JavaScript, which it understands for the most part. If you have any specific questions about how to perform certain actions, I'll be glad to answer them.
On another note, I know that you're quite active on the German Wikipedia, and that's the first non-English Wiki I was planning on making VP available for. If you have some available time, I could certainly use your help with a few things (it's not going to be urgent though, as I'm postponing interwiki releases until 1.3.1). AmiDaniel (talk) 00:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing. I am aware that there was a heat over few pages, started by someone close to me, who wanted to kinda help me get those pages listed. I jumped in a bit late, when feathers are already flying everywhere. DarkAudit was cool enough to save the day. I do know that the person who started this thing did some 'sockpuppeting', and he did get blocked. (he's only 22). I never even thought about having a page here, but now, when i did some cleaning (with unselfish help of DarkAudit, Houan and other guys), I would like to preserve those pages if possible. Please note that all the work there does belong to me. There are images that have been published in magazines and online, but it is still my work and I do know for sure that no one is holding a copyright. Let me know if there's another way to licence that kind of work (a magazine covers, published posters...that are NOT copyrighted) - other than {{GFDL-self-with-disclaimers}} and I'll change them gladly. I really don't want to see images dissapearing without a trace.
