User talk:Always forever/Archive 2
Bilgi UniversityPlease be careful repeatedly deleting information about academic freedom at Bilgi University. If you want to add information, do so, but do not delete this information without a good reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.179.232 (talk) 17:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC) Who is Mr. Malik? I deleted non-npov information that didn't conform to policies. I am an experienced editor and have not vandalized anything. Please watch what you say. Also, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes. Joel.Miles925 17:48, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
[[User: ]]There was no conflict of interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.179.232 (talk) 19:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC) HeloHello Om (talk) 17:21, 10 August 2016 (UTC) Hello! Is there anything I can help you with? Joel.Miles925 (talk) 17:22, 10 August 2016 (UTC) Helo please dont delete my page. Its not promotional — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharmaom123 (talk • contribs) 14:08, 11 August 2016 (UTC) Sorry, but it is. Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's page creation guidelines. Also, why do you seem to have 2 usernames? Joel.Miles925 (talk) 17:09, 11 August 2016 (UTC) HiHello, why are you thinking that this page is for speedy deletation?VuXman talk 17:48, 11 August 2016 (UTC) Because it reads like a company website. I think it meets Wikipedia's guidelines for deletion as a promotional article.Joel.Miles925 (talk) 18:55, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Please go to WP: Neutral point of view to find guidelines to avoid deletion. Also, sorry I'm leaving messages on my talk page. I simply sometimes forget about the rule and leave a discussion on my own page. Cheers! Joel.Miles925 (talk) 00:36, 12 August 2016 (UTC) Article LeadHi Joel, can you please explain what an article lead is? A quick example would be very helpful. Thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asanisimasafilms (talk • contribs) 03:50, 12 August 2016 (UTC) An article lead is the section of an article that appears before the first actual section. Most articles have one simply as a summary of the page ahead. Also, I noticed you need to add new sections when you go to someone's talk page (to avoid confusion). I did that for you this time, but please do it in the future. Also please sign your posts with four tildes. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 12:25, 12 August 2016 (UTC) DJ Sackmann PagePlease advise me on how I can make this professional page less of a "promotion" as you put it. It is not intended to be a promotion but informative for people who are looking for the brand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garysays (talk • contribs) 16:44, 12 August 2016 (UTC) An encyclopedia is not a forum. It is not to be used for an advertisement or a "soapbox". Your article made it seem as though DJ Sackmann was "surperior", a view which is not supported by the Wikipedia NPOV policy. Familiarize yourself with Wikipedia article guidelines and try again. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 16:47, 12 August 2016 (UTC) Thank you for your response Joel. I am actively attempting to edit the page - I see where you are coming from with teh "soapbox" talk. Edits to come! Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garysays (talk • contribs) 17:52, 12 August 2016 (UTC) You're welcome :) Joel.Miles925 (talk) 19:35, 12 August 2016 (UTC) Your AfD for the article added to an existing AfD. Please renominate the article. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:58, 13 August 2016 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Formula OneHi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Formula One you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 20:00, 13 August 2016 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Formula OneThe article Formula One you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Formula One for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 20:21, 13 August 2016 (UTC) FYIHello J. You left this message on Bbb23's talk page. If this is the edit that you are referring to then it is the IP that made the POV edit - not Bbb23. If I am incorrect then my apologies but I thought you should check on this to clear up any misunderstanding that may arise from place the warning on the talk page of a long time, highly productive editor. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 00:36, 16 August 2016 (UTC) Local Government Website document considered inappropriate sourceHello, you reversed my edits on [1], "because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia". I just wanted to know why documents from a local government website are considered "inappropriate for an encyclopedia". Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.34.94 (talk) 14:14, 16 August 2016 (UTC) If I'm not mistaken, the local government would probably be a bit biased towards their own city and which residents are notable, don't you think? Also please remember to sign your posts with four tildes. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 14:16, 16 August 2016 (UTC) I am not seeing what you consider 'defamatory'. According to Wikipedia's own definition, defamation is using slander or libelous content to intentionally negate a person or entity's image, of which the cited material is neither. If you take a moment to read the cited page/document, you will see that the information that was presented is not untrue or libelous or defamatory, and is in fact taken from a State Judicial document. I ask that you please review the edit that was made for correctness before marking it as 'defamatory', as it is not. If all that is required is that the language be re-worded, there is no problem, but if however the content was removed because you deem it 'defamatory', I kindly ask that you review Wikipedia's own definition of defamation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.253.238.165 (talk) 19:20, 16 August 2016 (UTC) I did not intend to mark it as defamatory, i marked it as spam. It just so happens that the template message uses "defamatory" as part of the message. You are using your own artful interpretation of this conversation to transfer focus away from the fact that your edit was biased. Again, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 00:08, 17 August 2016 (UTC) This discussion was applied to the wrong conversation. The page in question is the page titled Rick Baxter. 67.177.129.38 (talk) 13:27, 17 August 2016 (UTC) concerned patron "if you purposefully and blatantly harass a fellow Wikipedian again..."Adding categories to terms counts as targeted harassment here? I realise the terms the pages were for have some controversy surrounding them, but I'm pretty sure my additions were neutral and appropriate for them. I also suggested similar category additions on protected pages - I'm not sure if moderator bots are a thing here but I can see how that could get falsely flagged if they are.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ClocksmithPie (talk • contribs) 21:40, 16 August 2016 (UTC) Mind explaining why you tripped the abuse filters for obscenities and harassment then? Joel.Miles925 (talk) 00:09, 17 August 2016 (UTC) Sure. I just joined today and submitted two edit requests to suggest adding an additional category to pages for two slurs. I'm not sure if saying them by name will trigger a harassment filter as well so I won't say them directly. One was for the b-word used against women and one was for the f-word used against men who love men (like me). Each edit request page contained the article name in the first line, next to "{{edit semi-protected|", which an automatic filter might not be checking for. I also submitted categories two other pages today that were not protected and the result of that was feedback that a couple of the categories needed better support and were rejected, and one was kept that had enough support. While I initially though those may be the reason I was flagged (the words are controversial), after further thought it seemed like it could be the result of an automatic filter. ClocksmithPie (talk) 00:32, 17 August 2016 (UTC) Hey, would it be crazy to ask if you can check the logs for the filter to see what set it off? It seems like looking at the message(s) in question would clear things up pretty quick. ClocksmithPie (talk) 17:26, 17 August 2016 (UTC) Okay. First off I had no way of knowing what would have tripped the abuse filter. Second I also have no way of checking the diffs of the edits because you can't in the edit filter log (or at least for the obscenity filter). Sorry for any inconvenience. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 19:52, 17 August 2016 (UTC) I'm sorry to hear you don't have a way to check, but thanks for getting back to me on this. Take care. ClocksmithPie (talk) 20:04, 17 August 2016 (UTC) reverting a talk pageWhy did you revert my edit on a talk page (supermarket chains)?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.229.54.133 (talk) 20:48, 24 August 2016 (UTC) You accidentally made the edit on the actual article. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 20:49, 24 August 2016 (UTC) No I didn't, you can see it in the history.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.229.54.133 (talk) 21:26, 24 August 2016 (UTC) Yes, I can. The Article history. Also, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 22:11, 24 August 2016 (UTC) Here's you're revert on the talk page, and here's article history, showing nobody touched it since two weeks ago. 87.70.1.136 (talk) 03:48, 25 August 2016 (UTC) Apologies. This time I was the confused one. And thank you for signing your posts! Joel.Miles925 (talk) 00:28, 26 August 2016 (UTC) Revert on Maderia BeachWhy did you revert the library section? FlyerMan (talk) 20:19, 26 August 2016 (UTC) As I said, you deleted a section without providing a valid edit summary. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2016 (UTC) Sorry. I removed the section because I moved the article. FlyerMan (talk) 22:44, 26 August 2016 (UTC) Watch Your RevertsA bit quick on the draw reverting with no explanation when an IP edits. 97.104.138.227 (talk) 22:30, 1 September 2016 (UTC) Sorry. I do believe, however, that that has already been covered at WP:ANI. Joel.Miles925 23:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC) TalkbackHello, Always forever. You have new messages at MusikAnimal's talk page.
Message added 18:15, 2 September 2016 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Woodstop45 • Talk (Contribs) 18:15, 2 September 2016 (UTC) Recent use of vandalism1 templateHi, I saw the recent WP:AN/I discussion you opened on an IP user's edits, which an administrator closed with "talk more, template less" yesterday morning. I'm glad to see you not using harsh templates where they are unwarranted since then, but I'm confused by some of your other actions, as some of them make no sense to me at all (although others are fine and helpful):
If some of these have good explanations or are caused by features of the rollback tool I am unfamiliar with, please tell me. Otherwise, I'm concerned about this apparent carelessness in using templates on the wrong people. Could you assure me of how you will prevent this in the future? Thank you, User:Baslsk - I think 2 of those are definitely my fault. At one point while editing yesterday I had 2 tabs open to template two users and I suspect I had those to IPs switched. As for the edit on 13 colonies, I don't know. What I do know is that 13 colonies was the title listed in the abuse filter. I suppose it's possible that was just me goofing up, but I'm not sure. It plausibly could have been rollback. Stranger things have happened. But you are right, I do need to be more careful. Joel.Miles925 22:00, 3 September 2016 (UTC) Thanks for the response, Joel. Unfortunately incorrect templating is still going on. The following were all in the past hour. The thing is, none of these users ever edited these pages, and none of these pages have been recently edited by any IPs either.
You have some good templates in there too, like User talk:Kidwebs for edits to Liberland, but nothing has really changed and it is still a problem. Could you perhaps make sure you only have tabs open for one user at a time (if you use tabbed browsing -- but I don't know how anyone would live without it), or always check a user's contributions using the sidebar link before pressing "save" on their talk page, or cease using rollback for a little while to see if that helps anything? I'm very new as an editor and I'm still learning all the avenues for discussions and reports on Wikipedia. I don't know what the next step is if we can't sort this problem in a few days; I trust you will know where to go or who to ask for help. ~Baslsk~talk~ 19:14, 5 September 2016 (UTC) User:Baslsk - I've figured it out. When an edit trips certain filters (obscenities, ASCII art, bad words, and harambe vandalism), the abuselog does not allow a editor to view the edit (otherwise known as revdeling). Those edits did happen. Please view https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?wpSearchUser=192.91.235.243&wpSearchTitle=&wpSearchFilter= for the proof. This shows the edits did happen, and if you search for the other edits, they will appear too. Joel.Miles925 20:48, 5 September 2016 (UTC) Got it. (And I'm rather glad the normal list of recent changes doesn't get clogged with those edits.) Thank you very much! ~Baslsk~talk~ 21:36, 5 September 2016 (UTC) The Signpost: 06 September 2016
3rd opinion?Hi there. I see that you removed a dispute from WP:3O here, but it doesn't appear that you weighed in on said dispute? Thanks for clearing this up for me! DonIago (talk) 16:07, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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This user's request to have autoblock on their IP address lifted has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.
Block message: Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA". The reason given for MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA's block i Accept reason: I can find no reason to believe you are at all related to that vandal. Yamla (talk) 17:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC) Blocked by a checkiser?@Ponyo: Why am I blocked? All I did was ask @Widr: to block a bullsfan103 sock! I'm sorry if i'm missing something, but I don't get it. If this editor was vandalizing from my IP, I can explain. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 20:11, 27 September 2016 (UTC) Good hand / bad hand accounts You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} . Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:16, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
@Ponyo: And an explanation I will provide. I suppose it's time to tell you. I am a minor, and I attend a local middle school. Some people at my school know about my editing. At the time I was blocked, I was on a schoolbus. It would appear one person who showed what I thought was a legitimate interest in improving the encyclopedia made the edit to @Widr:'s talk page. It would appear he has decided to wikihound me. I will speak to this person and tell them to stop. They probably controlled MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! as well (I did not) and look to have noted my reporting of Bullsfan103 at WP:SPI and decided to impersonate him. I know it sounds farfetched, but multiple admins and users can vouch for me. Look at my contribs. I've never vandalized in my life and I neverintend to. This is my passion, and so I would like to appeal this block not in bad faith, but as someone who wants to improve Wikipedia. I'm sorry I ever taught this other person to edit. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 20:32, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
I concur with Ponyo's analysis of the CheckUser results. It does indeed appear that you have been editing in a good hand/bad hand manner. —DoRD (talk) 20:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC) @DoRD: - assuming all that I said above is true , wouldn't that be what it looks like? Joel.Miles925 (talk) 21:02, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
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Always forever (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I know that this appeal does come close to a bad unblock request, as I said above, this is my passion. I ask the reviewing admin to please take a look at the above discussion. If this is denied, I will go through the ticket request system as I do have personal info that may shed light on this situation. Also, I do edit from a school a lot, which may be one of the IPs referenced above. Decline reason: Considering that two checkusers agree that the evidence is compelling, that non-CU admins cannot see that evidence and cannot unblock without CU approval, and that you say you have more personal information, I think WP:UTRS is indeed the only way an unblock request can realistically be considered. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:46, 27 September 2016 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 21:28, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
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Always forever (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) UTRS appeal #16614 was submitted on Sep 27, 2016 22:44:17. This review is now closed.
--UTRSBot (talk) 22:44, 27 September 2016 (UTC) @Mike V: While I still maintain that I didn't do it, I am willing to go through the standard offer. I just have one question: Will I be able to resume editing on this account, or will I have to create a new one, like a WP:CLEANSTART? Joel.Miles925 (talk) 12:18, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
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Question to VRT@Majora: - As you can see above, I was blocked for alleged sockpuppetry, and would like to ask a question to the VRT about my final appeal before I leave for 6 months as part of the standard offer. I was wondering if you have gotten an email from the assistant principal at my school about the proof that I was not the sockpuppeteer here. If you have, can you please tell me what the outcome is and if need be tell me who I should contact? Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you! Joel.Miles925 (talk) 16:27, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
While I am an admin at OTRS (and have been for several days now :) my answer is largely the same as that of Majora. I'm aware that many people write to OTRS in a way that suggest they think that OTRS agents have some special authority over other editors. In fact, it would be better to think of OTRS as the help page for readers who do not know where to ask a question within Wikipedia. While we sometimes directly answer questions if they are easy to answer, we often point them to the right venue within Wikipedia. Most of the people that contact us are readers who have never edited Wikipedia, and occasionally very new editors who have worked on a single article, but have no idea how the overall community works. OTRS is not any sort of location for a "final appeal". In addition, I have almost no involvement with sock puppetry so if I had received an email from anyone at OTRS about sock puppetry I would be looking to pass that person back to editors familiar with that process. (As an aside I see that you have recently been using the UTRS process, is it possible you have confused UTRS with OTRS? I have absolutely no involvement with UTRS.)--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.
Always forever (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: My apologies if this is the wrong way to go about doing this, the way I interpreted the page at WP:Standard Offer it seems to be right. I would like to attempt to be unblocked via standard offer. In the almost-two-years since I was blocked, I took up wikiHow editing to fill the time I spent editing Wikipedia, and even attended the 2017 wikiHow meetup in St. Louis. [2] is my userpage. Recently, I have fallen out of activity on wikiHow but have been feeling the urge to edit a wiki again. I decided an attempt to return here would be the best way to go about this. I do still maintain my innocence in the situation that led to my block, but also (having reviewed my edits from two years ago) recognize that I was an incredibly immature user, probably due to my all-too-young age at the time. My apologies for that. Thank you for your consideration in advance and I hope that I may return. Accept reason: In light of the clean socking check and time elapsed, I feel comfortable offering a second chance. Welcome back.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:25, 9 May 2018 (UTC) Joel.Miles925 (talk) 16:02, 26 April 2018 (UTC) asking for feedback@Ponyo and Bbb23:???--Dlohcierekim (talk) 23:14, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
WP:AN/SO appealI guess the way to proceed is for you to post your appeal here and we will take it to WP:AN. I'll give you time to compose a new one, or I can copy what's in the current request for unblock.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 22:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
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