User talk:AlterrabeWelcome!Hello, Alterrabe, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place I notice you have a lot of interest in Otto Warburg. At Orthomolecular medicine, I've moved your Otto Warburg sentence into the early History and requested a citation. Since he is not well known to many in English speaking countries, several selected links or references in the sentence might be useful.--TheNautilus 15:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC) Saw your talk on the Nautilus's page. There are pictures available of Warburg at the History of Medicine The Stroll 04:54, 13 January 2007 (UTC) I have no idea of the picture you uploaded, as it not posted on the page. I just put the code in the the page for his picture. You need to place the name of the image that you uploaded in the code at the top of the page,for the image to appear. Most of the images at NLM are in the public domain. I have only come across one questionable photo, and I contacted the photographers family, and all they wanted was credit for the photo. NLM has clarified the status of the images since I did this a number of years ago. Next to each image is a link that you can see if there is a copyright or any resitrictions. Government information at NLM Web sites is in the public domain. Click on "View Authority" and it will tell you if there is a copyright. I just checked all his pictures and there is no copyright. However, the NLM requests that credit be given to the library for the image. Hope this helps. The Stroll 16:39, 21 January 2007 (UTC)The Stroll 16:55, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Dean BurkFYI - HHS / NIH Press release 1/24/2007 --News National Cancer Institute Positive results of a phase III cancer clinical trial in an uncommon form of leukemia were released today. The results showed that adult patients with previously untreated acute promyelocytic leukemia (APL) who had standard chemotherapy to induce remission of their disease, and then received the chemotherapy drug arsenic trioxide to maintain remission, had a significantly better event-free survival (more patients free of leukemia) and better overall survival than those who received only standard chemotherapy. The trial was sponsored by the National Cancer Institute (NCI), part of the National Institutes of Health, and was led by one of its Cooperative Clinical Trials Groups -- the Cancer and Leukemia Group B (CALGB). NIH News ReleaseThe Stroll 19:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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Image copyright problem with Image:Otto_H_Warburg_with_Warburg_manometer.jpgThank you for uploading Image:Otto_H_Warburg_with_Warburg_manometer.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. MECU≈talk 00:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC) WP:RSPlease review WP:V and WP:RS, which discusses who, and what, are reliable sources on wikipedia. Blogs (unless they are very specific blogs) and anecdotal evidence from celebrities, are not reliable sources. WLU (talk) 13:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC) OPI've re-worked Orthomolecular psychiatry#Scientific support, have a look and see if there's any changes you want to make. Further discussion should take place on the talk page so other editors can see it. WLU (talk) 17:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC) RFC Orthomolecular psychiatryFYI, I've put in a request for comment on the section we were discussing in December, on the Orthomolecular psychiatry page. It's on Talk:Orthomolecular psychiatry. WLU (talk) 19:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
MOS:CAPS and quotationsHi, Have a gander at MOS:CAPS - section titles shouldn't be capitalized beyond the first word, unless it's a proper name. Also, I generally don't quote from sources if I can avoid it, most readers probably aren't interested in the exact p value, and unless the actual quotation is somehow important or controversial, I don't think there's much reason to include it. I had thought there was a policy, but all I've found lately is Wikipedia:Quotations. Which I thought was deprecated. Knowing stuff like this makes it easier to integrate text without producing a jarring style and prevents most experienced editors from thinking you're a total noob - the hallmark of people's first 100 edits is usually the excessive use of capitals in section and page names. Thanks! WLU (talk) 19:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC) BarnstarsHi, Note that you normally put barnstars on user's talk pages, and they move it to their user page - otherwise they may not notice it for a long time if they don't notice it popping up on their watchlist (unlike a talk page, you don't get a message if your user page is changed by someone else). Thought you might want to know. WLU (talk) 16:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
A bit of edit countitisHi Alt, I noticed this post had the comment 'I find it tiresome to deal with editors in whose eyes I seem unable to do any right' and thought I'd provide my ¥2.17 (at current exchange rates - CAD$0.02). Orthomolecular psychiatry is not a mainstream medical approach. Further, it was historically rejected, for arguable reasons. This means that it unfortunately doesn't get much traffic in what is seen as the mainstream medical sources. This makes it hard to write about on wikipedia, because it misses out on what is seen as the premiere references - scholarly, peer-reviewed journals. It's also controversial. On top of that, there's obviously some merit to at least some aspects and subjects of the approach. This makes it a very confusing issue for wikipedians to deal with, particularly given the extra mile required by WP:MEDRS for medical claims - something OMP and OMM can almost never meet because it's been so thoroughly rejected by mainstream medicine. I can see why you'd find the endless challenges tiresome (and irritating, which you're dealing with admirably). In part, this is an artefact of experience - I've more than 16K worth of edits, Ed has around 6K, Fyslee 13K, Nau <700, and I think each of those numbers correlates with familiarity with policy and practice. I'm not saying that I am right (in particular, my citation of OR/SYNTH, my biggest sticking point on the page to date) and that you should fold before our terrifying well of wisdom, I'm saying that editors tend to converge on certain interpretations of policies, which may or may not be supported by the actual wording. There's also something to be said for editing thousands of pages and getting a gut sense of how most good articles are worded (and more, how specific wording can be attempts to write around content policies). I think you've got a sincere group of editors working on a difficult subject, and you're one of those editors. Just because you're working with other editors who have a lot of edits doesn't make them (i.e. me) right, so let's keep working to try to get a good page that accurately describes the subject. One advantage that I think the three higher-count editors have is experience dealing with both sides of this kind of issue - trying to add information that is continuously challenged, and trying to alter or remove information that doesn't seem to work on the page for a variety of reasons. I find it's given me sympathy for both sides and makes me want to try to come to a good consensus that's in line with policy and the MOS as a result. You do an excellent job of editing and justifying your edits given your experience, far in excess of what one would assume given your low total number. I hope the frustration doesn't lead to a departure. WLU (talk) 16:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC) Cade?Hi, Regards this remark, I'm reluctant to give tacit agreement when I'm not sure what I'm agreeing to! I checked through your contribs history for the recent past and couldn't see anything relating to those letters (an acronym? A name?) but sometimes I'm dense. There's a little bit of dyslexia going on as well. Could you clarify for me so I can comment if warranted, even to say 'go ahead'? If you wish to be discrete, I do check my e-mail and can use that to look into what you're saying, even if I dislike responding about wiki off wiki. WLU (talk) 20:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC) RewordingI was trying to reword the piece that contained the phrase "so small and the that with the odds of" into something that was a bit more clear and grammatical. The new version tries to make the same point but in language that is more approachable for a general reader. Tim Vickers (talk) 20:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Wall Street JournalReally? That's weird, I did a preliminary scan and the wording was identical for the first sentence. If the WSJ is more comprehensive, we should use that one for both citations since it's almost the exact same information (doubtless both wrote the same article from the same Associated Press source) unless there's info captured by the USAToday citation. I'll replace USAToday with the WSJ article. WLU (talk) 14:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
HorrobinHey Alt, is this a slightly dry-British-wit way of saying that BLP doesn't apply because Horrobin's dead? It made me chuckle :) WLU (talk) 17:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC) AscorbateThat AMA guide to alternative medicine gives a broad overview of all the forms of "nutritional medicine", as they say "There seems to be a continuum of beliefs ranging from promoting dietary supplements beyond the Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs), to elimination or addition of specific foods to "treat" specific conditions." Yes, ascorbate is a substrate of ascorbate peroxidases, that's covered in the specific articles on this vitamin. Tim Vickers (talk) 16:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, since this is not an accepted medical diagnosis, and no mutations associated with this hypothesised disorder have ever been identified, we can't describe this as a human genetic disease. Diseases such as gout and phenylketonuria, which are genuine diseases, can be treated to some extent by manipulating the diet, but this involves reducing the amounts of some nutrients and isn't anything like orthomolecular medicine. Tim Vickers (talk) 19:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
CivilityI agree completely, has somebody been insulting towards you? Tim Vickers (talk) 18:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Your commentYour argument is quite convincing, this could have been an honest mistake or erring on the side of caution. I've removed that point. Tim Vickers (talk) 22:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC) May 2008Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. Slashme (talk) 05:39, 27 May 2008 (UTC) OM papersHi there, As I said to ImperfectlyFormed. If you need a copy of any paper please e-mail me through my userpage and I should be able to get you a Pdf. Tim Vickers (talk) 22:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC) OrthomolecularHi there. I've been trying to find a form of words that might cover the same ground as that pseudoscience box and be acceptable to everybody involved. I think most of the editors on the page would agree that OM isn't as unreal as homeopathy or therapeutic touch, but is obviously seen as not mainstream science. Could you live with "This lack of serious testing of orthomolecular medicine has led to its practices being classed with other less plausible forms of alternative medicine and regarded as unscientific." diff? Tim Vickers (talk) 16:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC) Proposed deletion of Hal HugginsA proposed deletion template has been added to the article Hal Huggins, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:
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An appeal to your editorial skills in cleaning up articleI have added some source material regarding Hal Huggins' unscientific and unethical practices, which is the real reason his license was removed, to the talk page. Someone has tagged the article because of its multiple policy and style violations, and I'm hoping that you will show yourself to be a good enough editor to respect NPOV by cleaning it up and using the sources to provide the whole story. When that is done, the tag can be removed. -- Fyslee / talk 15:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
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