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Welcome to my talk page! Feel free to leave comments, critiques, etc., below. Unless you specifically request that I answer on your talk page, I'll be answering here, as I prefer to keep as much of the conversation in one place as possible. Thanks! Please add all new material to the bottom of the page! DYK
Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC) Rampant One Tree Hill vandal is back!Hello, Akradecki. This vandal...[1]...that you blocked and was blocked before that...is back.[2] And definitely needs blocking again. Flyer22 19:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
States Reorganization CommissionAlan/John, I'm trying to AFD the States Reorganization Commission article after my PROD was removed. However, following the instrustions on the AFD template is proving to be a mess. Can you help me sort this out? If you think an AFD is not appropriate here, go ahead and do what you think is best. Thanks. (Also posted on User talk:John) - BillCJ 20:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
VeropediaMade you an account, welcome! Please check your email to pick up your password. Cheers, Moreschi Talk 20:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC) 747minor comment I see that you're one of two commenting on the 747 article in our quest to improve it, maybe even to FA status. It's nice that the progression is constant and slow. That shows the article is stable. That's the joy of cooperation. I'm on wikibreak and will edit only occasionally in the next 2 weeks. Thanks for your comments on that talk page. Archtransit 21:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC) Hi, I see that you're an administrator. Your wikipedia colleague (administrator) Reedy Boy got me started writing. Nice to know another aviation administrator!Archtransit 21:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC) Stalinyes, i was wrong to remove portion of text. i cant do my edits again due to WP:3RR. but do you consider fair that we have no images from Nazi concentration camps and nuremberg trials documents in Heinrich Himmler and Adolf Hitler and we have a plenty of them in Joseph Stalin? and do you consider fair removal of an image of a monument to him in Gori and leaving the pic of a dismantled sculpture claimed to be " the only existing monument"? Av0id3r 23:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Dear AKRadecki. You seem fit to comment on my discussion entry to the "Stalin" article:"The problem with all this is that it appears to by your analysis of the events. What would cause your arguments to actually hold water is if you provided clear citations to accessible references that back up your statementsItalic text. Let me explain something to you (my fault, it seems to me obvious at the time of writing the entry): 1. I cannot quote directly. As you can suspect my mother tongue is not English/American so I have read the books mentioned in my post in Polish (mostly). While I am perfectly capable of amateur translation of relevant passages, I do think that "amateur" translation is something that should not happen when you are quoting directly - if you translate something from language X to Y tnen back to X you are liable to change - even involuntarily and unknowingly - the meanings and nuances. This de facto is twisting the quotation and as such opens an enormous field for fraud, as you are aware. 2. I hope that you do not see the necessity for me to buy english versions of these books to participate in discussion and also that you can see why it is no use to refer to relevant page numbers. 3. Franky speaking, I found this demand to use direct quotation a bit infuriationg. How can you pick the right sentence to support the entry on the subject from a 700-page book written WHOLLY on the subject? This is not newspaper... But I understand that this is to discourage liars. Thus said - we are in the pickle. Wikipedia should be for everybody, not English for English speakers, etc. Because this opens another gate to fraud. What hurt me most about your remark - the rest of remarks on that discussion page except one, are completely devoid of ANY reference to book, article, discussion, etc not saying anything about quoting one! so why pick on me? I have at least named LEGITIMATE, EXISTING, ACADEMIC AND RESEARCH-BASED SOURCES? Regards, Krzysztof Rogalski. PS I have no ambition of being an editor of ANY of Wikipedia articles - I do not think I have the necessary knowledge or other charts of character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.26.227.56 (talk) 17:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC) Katie BramallI'm asking for a deletion review of Katie Bramall. Since you speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -Ricksy 00:23, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Of G.91 and some other thingiesLast week you moved the G.91R to draft. Nobody cared about since then, another proof that the issue is *not* to improve articles, is keep out me from editing. Perhaps i'll working to it, but still i am pretty curious. There are texts about B-50, CF-104, F-86, G.91R keept out by you- know-who. When and where they will go in the main page? When and where someone accepted to work on them avoiding the 'usual' rollback made by you-know-who? Let's make it clear: this situation cannot be supported with only one part involved, and nobody allow someone to roll back sistematically the staff made by others. Next days i'll start to post them. IF you or whetever are interested to work (constructively, of course) to them you are praised to do something. Wiki rules cannot support apartheid, sorry.--Stefanomencarelli 11:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, not that i don't appreciate what you said, but even so, allow me to reply. Today there were the funerals of Enzo Biagi, a freeman as few remains in a world more and more without any respect for freedom (seen as a 'threat for the established order'). The oil price is flying to 100$ and this should led to think more seriously to our absurd world. But let's go: 1-there is someone that is costantly pointed at the 'words' while others are pointed on 'facts'. Since you call my comment 'above' as non-polite, obviously you miss why i could be not friendly with someone that not miss a time to complain in Arbcom every time we discuss in any sense. This is 'polite' and wikilove for you? To me it not looks so. Since i am a volonteer here, not payed (as all the collaborators as well), you cannot pretent i act like all the conformists here have established, and obey to Bzuk or BillCJ every time saying 'yes master, yes master, like you want master'. And surely i wouldn't take EH as 'bright example'. Sorry, the manner in which they acted not displays any reasonable friendly-acting. So it's hard pretend to me to be so kind with gentlemen that not even bothers to explain why they does this and that revert. 2-Another thing that show dramatically well some things:
All the G.91R page explains continuosly why this plane was 'limited' and 'mainly successful as recce'. I cannot understand how this thing, considering all the datas and stuff given, can be 'questioned'. Rather than criticize me just try to get a look about the JAS-39 Gripen. Basically, questioning this fact shows apalling comprension for all the article, because it's a statement well placed inside the meaning of this work. 3-Washing your hands and not bother about to collaborate with me is not surely a 'nice' manner to do. Strangely enough, this is 'justified', rather than be a guilth. So, basically, every thing i do or not do is wrong, while every thing you do or not do is right. With these bases, expecting a costructive dialogue is just funny. You have been 'offensed' by the vanification of F-104S adjustements (because i after done some more contr.). This is the only thing you did in over a month of 'collaboration'. Too easy, my dear, to self justify all times like you. Easy not bothering to collaborate, while the guilth is mine that already lost my time to contribue gratis to this ency. 4-My contributions should be alway quoted here and that. But being serious, there are a lot of pages without any or almost any references. I dont' understand why i should be whipped to post 500 bites. The issue about F-86 data touched the buttom of the sea and dig it too. I cannot cope with someone that not even read online sources with absurd reasons. 5-The continuos accuses, diffamations and so on about me are not liked either. Perhaps the problem is that Wikipedia takes herself too seriously in the last times? Perhaps that be called 'traitor' or 'harmer' is not friendly? Obviously you rate these accusation as 'righful critics'. But not i. I remember very well that you accused me without any proof to make copyviols, even with funny interpretations of Goebel PD text (that i stated as not mine, the only time i used other texts in all the MB written for the sake of Wiki). I wouldn't have a judge like you in the real world, believe me. 6-The fantastic wikioz world, 'tooooo perfect' to be 'questioned'. But to me and some others, this looks not exactly true. There are a lot of burocrats, hipocrites and trolls, or simply there are a lot of guys that basically fears the others and are ready to 'defend the Revolution' with zealot fanatism. Questioning even the basical celebral activity and even the basical freedom of spreech, questioning even the simply syllogism as crime. All this is due because, as always in these cases, from French revolution today there are always many 'revolutionary guards' ready to show their 'loyalty' to the 'cause'. So wikipedia prefers executes guys 'out of the chor' instead to admit to have some 'contradictions'. This is the usual manner to act. And i have no love to who call me 'wiki.harmer' just because i show that i 'know' my stuff, not only 'have read it somewhere'. This is why Goebel and many others keeps away from here. Wikipedia, due to the fanatism and or idiocy of some 'collaborators' keeps away many proficient potential contributors because fears the free thinking, even if well referenced and logical. This is an amusing trial to de-humanizing a thing that can run ONLY with the intelligence and capability of contributors, treated instead as dumb slaves by someone armed with terrible weapons like NNPOV, OR, POV or whetever, always ready to be used against everyone. So when B.Gates will buy Wiki, and he will be not grate to nobody. In the meanwhile, who really harms wiki (spammers, agenda-politicized guys and so on) can edit freely because they do it with proper reference 'quotes'. But my dear, there is no worse deaf to who not want hears. I am pretty sure that you or someone else will bother to put this new proof in arbcom evidence. Free to do it, free to look the finger instead the Moon, but i care about freedom to spreech even if this is not aprecied or understood.--Stefanomencarelli 23:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Aero CommanderAlan, if you get a chance, can you look at the following pages? (I'm not in a hurry, as I have patience!)
I'm not quite sure how best to rearange these. The three company pages should be combined in one article, as they were really just name changes, but under what name? I don't like using names with parentheses, and would prefer to have the aircraft back at Rockwell Aero Commander. My preference would be Rockwell Aero Commander for the plane, and Aero Commander for the company, perhaps with Company or COrp in the title, if one of these was used, or without as a replacement for the current 2-item DAB page. Any thoughts? - BillCJ 16:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, thanks for checking into this. If you would move Aero Commander (aircraft manufacturer) to Aero Commander over the 2-item DAB page, I'll work on combining the stub pages there in the next day or so. I'll look at the various model numbers, but they seem to vary so much for the Aero Commander (aircraft), I'm not sure anything
Thanks again. The AC 1120 Jet COmmander series is currently covered by the IAI Westwind page. That page is pretty skimpy right now, but with expansion, it might warrant a split by 2020. (Btw, 2020 is the date Wacked-outZooLaLa finally decides there must be more important things in life then living on Wikipedia doing nothing, and becomes the last user to quit Wikipedia, all the other users having left in 2011 for Veropedia. He then runs for Congress as a pro-Global Warming Democratic, sinking to an even lower level than being a Wiki sockpuppet, and has moved from VA to the Mojave Rainforest for the cooler weather - caused by Global Warming, of course.) - BillCJ 19:58, 6 November 2007 (UTC) Seeing that there is an Aero Commander 100 page (though it's badly in need of work!), your suggestion for Aero Commander (aircraft) to be moved to Aero Commander 500 seems most logical. Assuming no objections occur, I'll try to move it later tonight. - BillCJ 22:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
WikallizHi, this user contacted me because she felt harassed. Could you perhaps provide some diffs of edits of hers you feel are problematic? -- John Reaves 20:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
WikisourceAlan, do you, or perhaps any of those watching your page, know someone in Wikisouce who could help another user upload an Indian Government document from the 1950s? Details at User talk:BillCJ#States_Reorganization_Commission. Thanks. - BillCJ 01:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 2007 Romanian Air Force IAR-330 SOCAT crashAlan, could you look at my commnets [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eurocopter_tigre&curid=9856158&diff=169911996&oldid=169820472 here regarding the new 2007 Romanian Air Force IAR-330 SOCAT crash page, and see if you have any advice for User:Eurocopter tigre. Thanks. - BillCJ 18:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
No, not at all, though it wasn't the response I was looking for. I do always trust your judgement, and that you do what you believe is best in any situation, and that is what I prefer. I certainly questioned the wisdom of creating the article from the beginning, but I've been trying to get Tigre to draw out any proof of notability that exists, which he hasn't been able to do to this point. This will come as a disappointment to Wikzilla, though, as he thinks we are in lock-step agreement on everything. I'm sure we're just doing this to try to confuse him, but he's to smart to fall for it :) - BillCJ 18:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC) Vandalism-only account[[3]]. Have fun! - BillCJ 00:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC) FYIAs you were the one who split this from the main article, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Korean Air Flight 007 conspiracy theories. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 10:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
User talk:Princess Pea FaceHeh, great minds think alike! What do you call these things we wear inside our shoes again? Keep up the good work. --John 22:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Did you see that? Do you have anything to add? It may be time to close it now. --John 01:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC) What the dickens has gone on in this article? I thought there was an agreement to "shape" and "refine" edits before submitting a large edit to this article. I have been trying not to touch any articles in contention but adding to the mix is disheartening. Bzuk 02:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC).
Vero-cruftAlan, is Veropedia cruft free? THat would be really nice. I think it must be Wikipedia Week at Gamers Online! - BillCJ 02:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
AFDYou commented on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mississauga City Council about bot issues. I don't believe a bot was involved with th article. If you'd like to express your concerns on the article in question, please do so, otherwise, pleas considering moving your comments. thanks Mbisanz 04:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
commons deletionsIronically enough, I messed that one up after lecturing maxim (talk · contribs) about the same thing (see his talk page). I'm usually quite careful and this one just fooled me while I was trying to clean up his mess. The issue is that the cleanup category encourages admins to use the Bad Old Ones Tool which is quite simply awful and in particular does not display en.wiki usage correctly. In any case, I'm happy you picked up my mistake but I always work directly from the images so this is not a mistake I often make. We should probably ask that DumbBot be modified so that it stops creating the cleanup categories with the text linking to Bad Old Ones. I also asked AzaToth to modify Twinkle to do the substitution automatically [4] but I got no answer (and of course I'll forgive him because he probably gets dozens Twinkle feature requests a month...) Pascal.Tesson 05:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
S-61L/NAlan, just wanted to say thanks for the recent civil S-61 pics you've added, and that the firefighting pics are great! Between you and Adam (AHunt), the article has really filled out since the two pics I had when I spun it off the SH-3 page. Nice to see one of my Wiki-babies growing up! - BillCJ 06:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
WOW! That is a good one! I think it works best on that page, as both birds are a bit too small in the pic to work well on the type pages. - BillCJ 06:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC) BTW, the S-61 looks like an S-61R, not a L or N. Though it doesn't have side sponsons, the main gear are in the same location, and it has a nose gear. THe L/Ns have reverse tricycle gear, with the main forward and the tailgear rearward. Also, the rear fuselage is quite different. I've not seen a R that looks quite like that, without the sponsons. I hadn't heard of the R being sold as a civil model in my research. Perhaps that's a modified USAF or Coast Guard HH-3, but I really don't know. - BillCJ 06:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Actually, Evergreen has/had operated S-61Rs, as seen here. However, theirs has side sponsons. - BillCJ 06:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Do you have any references to exactly what model it was? Oh, and shouldn't that have been "Inland Empire-building? ;) - BillCJ 17:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, thanks. CH-3C is a USAF S-61R, but they normally had sponsons, so those were obvioulsy removed for whatever reason. - BillCJ 17:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
That shouldn't be a problem. I'd like to get a useable pic of the white Evergreen bird on their site too, if someone ever runs across one. - BillCJ 18:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC) LA class trollAlan, here's one I'm fairly certain is NOT Wikzilla! Look at this diff, particulary his last sentence, and his talk page. He doesn't understand he HAS to have reliable sources, and insists on addign back when the page is unprotected. Help! - BillCJ 07:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
FreeLifeI'm inherently unsympathetic to MLM schemes, degree-mill doctors and snake oil claims, but even I think you're not being fair here. And more importantly, this has come to the attention of a lot of people through the online complaints system. You could do a lot to rescue your reputation in some people's eyes by bending over backwards to be really fair, dig up a few sources other than the documentary, and make the article better. We are not required to be sympathetic to subjects, but we are required to be fair. Thanks, Guy (Help!) 10:12, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
From Flex-CThanks for the invite Thanks for the message the other day but to be honest when you have seriously ANAL administators such as cloudnine & ben w bell who as administrators enjoy administering their own points of views on articles about subjects it wains my interest in Wikipedia! It was a very good website but these sort of people can change the information to their own P.O.V - so leaving information can at times be in fact a waste of time. Most adminstrators are fair and open minded but people like these put you off! Regards Flex-C 14:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Ahunt now a trollHere. I'm sending you an e-mail about this in a few minutes. - BillCJ 18:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, and thatnks. I just replied to the last address you e-mailed me from, so if that was the old one, Sorry! - BillCJ 18:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help on this. I had a feeling that editing the G.91 article would not be easy for us trolls! - Ahunt 18:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Well I guess I am automatically a member? Quite an honour - Ahunt 18:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Spammer slapperAlan, you feel like slapping a spammer? CHeck out these contributions. I think I've seen this site added and remmoved before, but am not sure. - BillCJ 04:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Image problemsAlan, this diff is the last of several in which this user has reverted bot deletions of the same image. I checked his user page and he his 14! Would you mind explaining the problems to him? He seems sincere, but just doesn't understnad the problem. I don't want to risk "biting" him, but communicating with teenages has never been my strong point - even when I WAS a teenager! Thanks. - BillCJ 17:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC) Helo lift classes ?There was a discussion on your talk page last week (on archive 15 now) about what is medium-lift. Born provided this link for gross weight ranges. I can't find anything else on this elsewhere. Seems like Cargo aircraft would be a better place for the classes than the general article helicopter. -Fnlayson 04:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
St. Lucia AirwaysI have begun an article on CIA proprietary St. Lucia Airways. Mark Sublette 06:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)Mark SubletteMark Sublette 06:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Accounts set up for vandalism attacksSee: NoPeDa at [5]. FW This looks like Wikzilla again. Bzuk 14:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC).
Another Vandalism-onlyUser talk:65.199.254.45, Contributions. - BillCJ 16:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
and Wikzillaspeni$ and 71.247.232.60 Bzuk 07:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC). I have undeleted. This is so profoundly not a7! It was really not right (per deletion policy) or nice (per common politeness) of you to have deleted this stub. -- Y not? 15:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
CorpspamAlan, check out this - his contributions have been removed once already by antoehr editor, but were re-added today. Despite my "connections" to Chattanooga, I've never heard of Chattmedia, hence the users efforts! - BillCJ 17:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC) User:TougHHeadHello, you might want to check his editing history. It's not a good one. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 01:09, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
He seems to consider warnings from admins on his page to be "spam." Not encouraging.--RosicrucianTalk 07:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC) The next block will never happen because I got chased out from wikis but nobody will chase me out of this one. Also who cares about my Talk history? FBI? Military? Police? Nobody cares about my history. Rosicrucian is actually turned out to be from Teletraan-1 the Trnasformers Wiki. Please leave this peace loving user alone which is me. I already became famous because of Angela made me world wide famous guy on the web by thinking me as Assaulthead the Guy who Vandalized Wikia and latter died for such behavior.(TougHHead 02:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC))
TougHHead, you're not getting it. The FBI doesn't care, the CIA doesn't care, but the admins do care. You have been disruptive an uncivil. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 03:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Odd editsAlan, I came across this edit, but accorrding to Adam Aircraft's own site, it's in Englewood. THen I found this edit! Of course, Air Methods addresses on their site diffr too. Is this just vandalism, or a turf war of some kind? - BillCJ 05:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Just because a city or town name appears in a mailing address does not mean that the address is located in that town or city. (Most notable example - addresses for government offices at the Pentagon read "Washington, DC", even though the Pentagon is located across the river in Virginia, not in the District of Columbia). Years and years ago, before much of the south part of the Denver Metro Area was developed, the US Postal Service assigned "Englewood" as the place name to be associated with the ZIP code 80112, even though this area was not part of Englewood or any other city. This area is now very much developed, and surrounding cities have made annexations and have incorporated in the area, including the City of Centennial. Although Centennial Airport is not part of any city, it is essentially surrounded by the City of Centennial. As for the mailing address, although the Postal Service maintains "Englewood" as the "default" place name for ZIP code 80112, it is perfectly acceptable to write "Centennial, CO 80112" in the address (or on a FedEx slip, for that matter). Those who continue to write "Englewood" are either doing so by habit or because they are ignorant of city boundaries. It is simply wrong to attribute the location of the airport to Englewood when it is miles and miles outside of this city. Watkinsian 16:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh, so since the Department of the Army gives "Washington, DC" as its address, we must use this reference. We must assert that the Pentagon is in the District of Columbia, and not Arlington, Virginia. So it's "original research" to observe that the Potomac River, the boundary between DC and VA, separates the Pentagon from the City of Washington? No, this is different from the Mojave example. Mojave Aiport's "claim" to being "in" Mojave is based on a mailing address. As stated above, Centennial Airport's address can be written either "Englewood, CO" or "Centennial, CO". As far as the Postal Service is concerned, they are interchangeable. So why, if we are basing the information in this article on a mailing address, would we chose the name of a city several miles away instead of the name of the city immediately adjacent? Watkinsian 17:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not claiming anything. How is the "research" involved with going to a website to determine how a company styles its address different from the "research" involved with looking up that same address on an official city map and verifying whether or not that address is in that city? An official city map is a much more reliable source of locational information than the US Postal Service's ZIP code database. The ZIP code 80112 contains addresses that are in incorporated areas as well as unincorporated areas. In either case, it makes no difference - it is perfectly acceptable to write ANY address in the ZIP code 80112 as "Englewood, CO 80112" OR "Centennial, CO 80112". If we blindly accept the company's choice - and it is a choice - to use "Englewood" instead of "Centennial" in its mailing address as the absolute truth regarding its location, we would be attributing the address' location to a place that is actually several miles away. That would be inaccurate and misleading. Watkinsian 23:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Akradecki, in using such terms as "edit war" and "vandalism" in your posts to my talk page and in your edit summaries, you are choosing to escalate this into something ugly and something non-collaborative. I haven't thrown such reactionary terms at you. I understand your view of this issue - if a company presents its address a certain way, then this should be reflected in the article. However, if doing so may mislead readers of the article into assuming something that isn't true - that the company is located in a city eight miles away - then it is our job as editors to provide clarification, based on reputable references. Finally, I don't appreciate your use of "our policies" - Wikipedia does not belong to you, or to a "we", but to the entire community of editors, to which I also belong. Watkinsian 16:23, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Akradecki, I've recognized your point of view, but you seem to refuse to consider the arguments I've presented, even though they are worked off the published references of official city maps and the database of the United States Postal Service. As much as you would characterize my behavior as stubbornly "forcing" my view, you are stubbornly forcing your view that my references are not valid. Perhaps you and other editors would like to characterize my edits as a "campaign", POV, or "anti-Englewood" - you're welcome to your opinions. I'm happy to attribute anything to Englewood that rightfully concerns that city. As I stated before, my intentions are simply to provide clarification to articles that may contain misleading information. Watkinsian 17:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
You wrote on the ATG Javelin talk page: "You have been told multiple times by multiple editors that reading maps is akin to OR, and yet you seen (sp) to persist in it, in other words, you either don't understand or don't want to accept this. Yes, there is more to the (sp) life than the the FAA (though in some parts of aviation that's not true), but the FAA is a direct reference, in other words, they are saying something that we can report. When you reference a map, you are the one saying something, and that is OR. The map supports your assertion, but it is not a direct source that says what you're saying. That's a critical difference, because we are not a repository of origninal (sp) research or analysis, we essentially parrot what other reliable sources say." It seems to me that there is a fine line between what is OR and what is not. The source of your assertions have been, in part, company websites or the FAA website. Your process: 1. You read a mailing address on a company website. 2. The mailing address includes the name of the city "Englewood". 3. You make an assertion, that the mailing address is actually in that city. The mailing address supports your assertion. 4. Through your choice of words (using "in" instead of "near", "adjacent to", etc. or instead of an explanatory phrase "has a postal designation of, but is located in") you edit an article to read that the company is "in Englewood". The company website is a direct source, and so you can report what it says. Is a company saying it is "in Englewood" when it includes that city's name in its address? No. It is saying that its address is in a ZIP code that the Postal Service has associated the place name "Englewood" with. That is all it is saying, and that is all that you can report. By making an assertion that the location is "in Englewood", you are the one that is saying that. You are adding your analysis. The process is similar using an FAA "Master Record": 1. You read that the report indicates "Denver" as an "Associated City" of an airport. 2. You make an assertion, that the airport is actually in, or belongs to, to that city. 3. Through your choice of words you edit an article to read that the airport is "Denver's". Is the FAA report saying that the airport is in Denver? No. It is saying that it is an "associated city" (whatever that means - one can safely assume that it means that the airport serves Denver, or is somewhere near Denver). That is all it is saying, and that is all that you can report. By making an assertion that the airport is "in Denver", you are the one that is saying that. You are adding your analysis. My process: 1. I'm critical of mailing addresses, because they don't always reflect actual locations. 2. When I read a mailing address, I check it against reliable references. These include the database of the US Postal Service - which "says" which place names are associated with each ZIP code (and therefore, each address). I also refer to official maps produced by government agencies - municipalities, counties, state departments of transportation, etc. I locate the address on the map. There is almost always only one way to interpret where an address is on a map. 3. Here's where I guess I make my assertion. Because I find an address located within (or outside of) the area defined on the map as being within (or outside of) the city, I then assert that the address is in (or out) of the city. But - the map does "say" that the address is in (or outside) of the city, does it not? A map doesn't organize information the same way that an address or a paragraph of text does, but it still is a repository of information. Just like text, the information provided on a map can be rather unmistakable, but it can also be subject to interpretation. It seems you are saying that it's OK to take textual information as-is and use it in an article, but because map-based information requires the step of "translating" graphical information into words, it is not OK. This translation supposedly involves "original research". But what if I read something from a reliable source in a foreign language and want to add it to an English-language Wikipedia article? Must it be published in English first before I can add it to the article, because, by translating the meaning of the foreign source in my mind, I am adding my own analysis? I understand the intent of the original research requirement - but you seem to be setting the bar rather low for yourself (e.g., accepting mailing addresses or FAA "associations" at face value) but rather high for me (e.g., information in government documents cannot be used if it is presented graphically and not as text). I simply have trouble understanding why your analysis of what a mailing address is "saying" is not original research, but my analysis of what a map is "saying" is OR. Please enlighten me. Watkinsian (talk) 23:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Cruft attacksAlan (or a watching admin), would you consider semi-protecting Special Air Service for a week or two? It's been attacked by crufters several times a day for the last several days. Thanks. - BillCJ 22:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC) Reverting Copyright TagsI have noticed that you reverted a copyright tag http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image%3AP-51D_Tika_IV_361st_fg.jpg&diff=171715823&oldid=171702303 This image has been directly uploaded from the website WWII in Color and unless specified, this image does not have a copyright status and therefore can not be used on Wikipedia unless another reliable source and be produced. This information can be found on the FAQ for WWII in Color
-TabooTikiGod 22:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC) Help needed on Image challengesHELP, The following images have all been challenged:
All of these images will be removed by TabooTikiGod who has made the sweeping challenges. I believe they can all fall under
or {USAF banner removed to remove this page from related cat} or other appropriate PD tags. Can you help! Bzuk 23:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC). <div class="metadata divbox divbox-red" title="Notice: Please see the following talk page " > Notice: Please see the following talk page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft#Help_needed_on_Image_challenges
-TabooTikiGod —Preceding comment was added at 00:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
LCACAlan, I just created a rough article for the USN's LCAC, which to this point all links were pointed toward a short general section in the Landing craft article. If you get a chance, could you give a quick copy-edit? Thanks. - -- BillCJ (talk) 20:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC) Featured article reviewF-4 Phantom II has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Alan, did you get an email from me a couple days ago? --Born2flie (talk) 18:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
'Band not noteable'Why is Nega 'not noteable' and honestly, what does it matter anyway? Just because a band isn't Dir en grey or Gazette doesn't mean that they don't diserve their own little page. I'm not trying to be rude but I just don't understand why you're deleting my page...
Re: Echizen-Hanandō StationThank you for your attention to my db-move request on Echizen-Hanandō Station. My request is move of Echizen-Hanando Station (without macron) to Echizen-Hanandō Station (with macron). This is a non-disputable move per WP:MJ. Originally the former was a redirect to the latter but I deleted it when I pasted db-move. If it was inappropriate, I apologize. --Sushiya (talk) 22:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC) Proto SLGThough I provided 3 reasons the article shouldn't have been deleted (including a notability rationale), it was nonetheless deleted by you without a single reason mentioned or even speedy deletion code asserted. I would respectfully ask you to take a second look at my rationales, namely #1 (that there are plenty of other paintball marker articles in wikipedia that have not been deleted), and #3 (that the unique internal mechanics of the Proto SLG do not exist in any other marker being sold on the market today). Many other paintball marker articles have been up for AfD, and all of them have survived; I've never seen a paintball marker article speedily deleted in this manner without so much as even a rationale given by the admin. Again, I ask that you look over my defenses again, or at the very least, AfD it so that it can be discussed. Thanks. --Donutmonger (talk) 03:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Alrighty after doing some intense searching, I found coverage of the SLG in sources that I believe satisfy the notability guidelines. All of them are from WARPIG, an independent source that, as one of the oldest paintball websites around, is considered extremely reliable.
Hopefully these sources should certify the SLG article as notable enough to exist. Please take a look at these and let me know what you think. Thanks! --Donutmonger (talk) 10:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Article "Teerasin Dangda" deletionHey, Just wondering why you deleted Teerasin Dangda's article. It's nothing major, I guess, but I believe that Dangda satisfies WP:NOTE, and in moving to Manchester City F.C., his career is only going to become more notable. The arguments for and against his notability could probably be well-summed in studying the deletion vote for a Cypriot semi-pro international footballer - note the overwhelming keep argument, in addition to the good arguments both for and against. Please don't take this as a rant in any way, I simply am curious to why the page was deleted, especially with little-to-no time period for Wikipedians to debate the deletion and thus to save the page. If I have the chance, I would like to argue in favour of keeping his article, but under the circumstances, presently I am simply looking to understand why the article was deleted - I am quite aware that I can be and am wrong on some issues. Falastur2 (talk) 13:49, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Mooner72Alan or a watching admin, User:Mooner72 is adding links to aircraft aritles which apparently link to a site he runs. He has been asked to stop by several users, but continues to add the links. - BillCJ (talk) 00:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC) Government Executive MagazineGovernment Executive's is a magazine for leaders in the federal goverment and it is an institution that many of them look to for guidance. These people also read Forbes, Fortune and BusinessWeek magazines all of which have listed in Wikipedia. Why is it that you've deleted my page and have not deleted those or IBM, McDonalds or any other industry pages. The publication Governing has a listing as well, why hasn't their page been removed? Is it possible to rewrite the article for posting? Please reply on my talk page. 38.118.42.194 (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion and HangonI put the hangon template on Up His Nose and respectfully left everything there. It should remain there at least for review. The person who put the speedy deletion tag on the page had this to say about it. Please respect the hangon tag and put it back. -- Carol 21:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
CSD:R3Hello Akradecki, Regarding Katsina, the problem isn't the Q, as we have Kastina, but rather the reversing of the t and s. Cheers, TewfikTalk 02:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
You deleted the wrong one. A comedy of errors :-) TewfikTalk 17:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I suppose I've fulfilled my prophecy then. The redirect that should be deleted would be Katsina Junction. Cheers, TewfikTalk 23:10, 20 November 2007 (UTC) Enforced breakSee this and previous edits? Intersting. - BillCJ (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC) Because you need it....  I just wanted to stop by and leave you a chocolate chip cookie and a glass of milk, both of which you deserve after all you've put up with. You showed the patience of a saint, and I was really impressed with how you handled such mind-boggling...whatever that was. Thanks again, and enjoy! --jonny-mt(t)(c)Tell me what you think! 05:51, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of ZEDO An article that you have been involved in editing, ZEDO, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ZEDO. Thank you. 69.68.125.6 (talk) 15:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Aviastar.orgI have questions regarding the aviastar.org (formerly avia.russian.ee, among others). The purpose of his site, does it meet the "fair use" criteria, similar to what was cited by the webmaster of ww2incolor.org? Specifically, in being able to cite so much of copyrighted works without being copyright violation. --Born2flie (talk) 19:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
sorrySorry to see your comments on AN about administrator abuse and seeing that you feel you have been abused as an admin. This is bad. Sorry you have been abused. Some (not all) of the proposed abuse criteria is clearly bad. If you were in a dispute over whether some rare frog was in the -- genus or -- genus, as an admin it's clearly wrong to say "I don't care if you have reliable sources about -- genus, I disagree and I am going to block you". This is abuse! Another abuse would be "I block you and block you user talk page so you can't request a formal unblock". I learned that on AN today. There is an unblock board where neutral admin are suppose to review decisions. The blocking admin should not prevent this. They should also not visit that board and decide on the appeal of their own actions. I don't think you'll do the above! Sorry again to see that others have abused you. Uetz (talk) 18:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Tbanks, guys, that's really appreciated! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 16:52, 22 November 2007 (UTC) User:Tom13014Alan (or watching admin), User:Tom13014 is again adding copyrighted text and pictures to the Bruce Golding article, per this diff, a copyvio of this profile, per notice at bottom of the site's main page. - BillCJ (talk) 23:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC) Email alertAlan, you have mail at fxr! - BillCJ (talk) 19:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC) Well, I was not familiar with that aspect of the US copyright law. Thank you for explaining that to me. I had only good intentions :-) Regards User Doe ☻T ☼C 02:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC) Bell 533Alan, as the original editor of the mainspace article, I'd like to invite your comments on mine and Jeff's revision in my sandbox article. Bill and Bzuk, if you see this note, please drop in and share your thoughts, also. --Born2flie (talk) 14:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC) Sock alertAlan, User:64.58.144.10 appears to be a sockpuppet of banned User:TougHHead, just to let you know to be on alert. - BillCJ (talk) 17:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC) Sending out the Bat signal againAlan, can you look at the following [7] wherein a new editor is challenging an experienced editor over an AfD request. The article in question may actually be noteworthy but the sharp dialogue that was engendered by the same editor earlier in the Talk:Neta Snook article and later on talk pages, sent up some "red flags." BTW, the article in question is actually a candidate for AfD because it appears to be a copy from a website. I did have an occasion to question the newbie editor's judgment on an issue of pushing a Christian agenda/focus into an article on Amelia Earhart's flight instructor. His switching to a "straw man" argument when questioned and then slinging accusations puzzled me until I started to look at some of his edits. This article on Haley Industries struck me as odd and not coached in his "voice." His edit: " The Light Alloys Limited foundry was created in 1952 as part of the Canadian government's decision to support the design and manufacture of a Canadian supersonic fighter aircraft, the CF-105 Arrow. The foundry was located close to Dominion Magnesium, a producer of high purity primary magnesium. In 1959 the government, for a number of reasons, halted the Arrow project and scrapped the five prototype aircraft already manufactured." The Magellan Aerospace website: " Haley Industries Limited, formerly known as Light Alloys Limited, was constructed on the current site by the Canadian government in 1952. The foundry was part of the Canadian government's decision to support the design and manufacture of a Canadian supersonic fighter aircraft, the AVRO Arrow. The foundry was located close to Dominion Magnesium, a producer of high purity primary magnesium. In 1959 the government, for a number of reasons, halted the Arrow project and scrapped the five prototype aircraft already manufactured." With the number of spellos and grammar errors in his other edits, this well-structured and precisely written passage stood out. However, in “photocopying” the passage, he has already made two errors in presupposing the foundry was started in 1952, which it wasn’t and that the Canadian government created the firm in 1952 which they did not. Like you, I prefer to leave “sleeping dogs lie” but his stance on a challenge to his article falls into the “my lady doth protest too much” defence. FWIW I will also pass this on to another admin for comment. Bzuk (talk) 05:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC). I have another "fan"Alan, I thought this diff was a bit odd, but then I checked his user contributions from July. My warning seems odd because he never edited the Su-35 page, nor did the two users I reverted there, User:Gxe65 and User:Historian info, have any open contact with this guy. Given the overlapping contributions to similar pages by User:Peter johnson4 and User:Historian info, it might be interesting if we could get a checkuser run on these 3. Thanks for whatever you can do. And thanks for blocking User:TougHHead's latest sock. I guess you should have been a little clearer when you told Tough to get a new hobby, huh? He just ain't that bright! :) - BillCJ (talk) 07:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC) - BillCJ (talk) 07:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC) ArbcomI have made this comment to the co-ordinator of the mediation cabal [8] in the hope that he may pesuade you to reconsider your comments. Please consider that I agreed to process before the Arbcom was commenced. Aatomic1 (talk) 01:38, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
3rrHi Akradecki: With all due respect, I disagree with your opinion that I violated WP:3RR. If you look at Wikipedia:Three-revert rule#Exceptions you will see it clearly states that "reverts to remove unsourced or poorly sourced controversial material about living persons (see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons) [aren't considered reverts]." If you look closely at the edit history you will see that the "reverts" changed per the source that was given. Additionaly, the editor that I was in an edit war with has a habit of "contributing" to Wikipedia by going to bios of living people that are in trouble with the law, and inserting without sources that "they are of the Jewish faith" (he recently switched and began doing it to non-criminals, but that was after I pointed out his dubious editing to him). Here are two examples: this, this. You might want to apply WP:IGNORE when dealing with such an editor. But whether I am right or wrong, I will accept your statement, as long as I am not told by another administrater that I was correct. All the best, --Brewcrewer (talk) 23:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Fourth Generation AircraftYou took the lazy way out. Do you always hide behind "it's an IP" or it's a "sockpuppet" so I am going to delete, lock and ban? Why don;t you first take aim before you shoot. Perhaps you may hit your target instead of your foot. As always, good job Kneejerk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.18.10.6 (talk) 00:34, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
DiscussionEverything gets discussed here except what you do. You deleted an article that I wrote because it had been tagged for deletion. According to the instructions there, a 'hangon' tag means that there will be discussion. You don't discuss things or read what the deletion tags say or care what the person who made the original deletion suggestion had to say? I actually have been following the featured list stuff somewhat and was interested in starting with a small list. Do you follow the discussion of what makes a good list and what doesn't? Do you know who is able to put holds on pages? Thank you for your time and consideration. -- Carol 07:23, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
ThanksHey Akradecki, Thanks for the revert. :) Manticore Talk | Contributions 14:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC) AIVThanks for your help - sorry I couldn't remember which page was the right one for vandalism. Kelpin (talk) 18:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC) Too niceRe: User_talk:Brewcrewer#3RR_warning, I think you are too nice. An experienced editor ought to know better. I'll block that user the next time he breaks WP:3R. Bearian (talk) 21:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I transwikied this to pt:Porão Guampa F.C where it was also speedied for non-natability. Andreas (T) 01:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC) FrontiersAkradeki! Please undelete the page I was working on the Frontiers orginisation. You said it should be speedily deleted it, and I put the {{hangon}} code, which was not respected. The Frontiers article, about an originization with work in more than 40 countries IS notable. If it's not I'll give you a list of tons of such articles on wikipedia for you to delete! Please undelete it, otherwise I will go through the undelete review.--Alfredie (talk) 02:16, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
DownER Periscope!Alan, have you seen this latest revert? What can be done here? He has "spoken"! - BillCJ (talk) 17:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks much! - BillCJ (talk) 18:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC) TougHHead / WikzillaBetween Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of TougHHead and Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Wikzilla, it looks to me like these might be the same person. If so, would it be in our interests to merge the categories, do you think? – Luna Santin (talk) 04:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC) THe Checkuser would be good, but I don't think they are the same person. Wikzilla's probably smarter than TougHHead (Can I say that, or is it another personal attack?), as looking at their speparate edits on the F-22 Raptor page will show. - BillCJ (talk) 04:39, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
TougHHead is... not subtle. Not in the least. In his initial Wikia incidents, he expected us to believe that the prior foul-mouthed accounts of his that we blocked were his "older brother" AssaultHead who had been subsequently executed by the state for mass murder. So that would be why he goes on and on about AssaultHead here on Wikipedia when most Wikipedians probably don't even know of the Wikia incident. He occasionally thinks he's being clever, but he always tips his hand in about the most clumsy way possible. Very definitely suspect he's rather young, and wouldn't surmise he's Wikzilla at all. He's just some kid obsessed with tanks, jets, and Transformers.--RosicrucianTalk 00:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Might be Fred AdamsI think our banned friend User:Fredadams is back and editing Desiree Horton again as an anonymous IP editor from Long Beach. There's a similarity in tone, style, and focus that causes me to suspect this but I have no way to prove it and am unsure how to proceed. Thoughts? - Dravecky (talk) 04:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC) Aerodyn links to Helicopter articleAlan, from newest to oldest: Here are the diffs for every time the aerodyndesign website has been added and added back into the Helicopter article. Wondering if you could do a CheckUser on them and see what the probability is. 4 different IP addresses with a close enough similarity between pairs to suggest a relationship. Not to mention our previous discussion of suspected conflict of interest on the WP:ROTOR talk page. If there is a relationship, how do you suggest I approach the subject of conflict of interest with an editor? Thanks. --Born2flie (talk) 16:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Classification of adminsHi Akradecki. Please consider adding your admin username to the growing list at Classification of admins. Best! -- Jreferee t/c 22:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC) AeroEngineer2008I am providing Engineers with a free tool for calculating rotor and propeller performance. I am not selling anything or making profit. I have had people thank me for making this tool available, and I want others to be able to use it. I don't understand how you can delete my link every time, when you leave up that patent link which is completely un useful for anyone researching helicopters, and in my opinion a self promotion for that idea. There is a million patents that are more relevant, just go to Google patents and type helicopter, or rotor. I'm going to put this link up again, because it is useful for others. Have a nice day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AeroEngineer2008 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
by the way, I only posted the link so you knew what the hell I was talking about, I have no idea how this gets around the COI? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AeroEngineer2008 (talk • contribs) 00:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
SpeedhawkI'm irritated. I've attempted to modify this page twice today - to add a simple photo. Both times the change was undone by an overzealous sysop/admin, you being one. The picture I added was taken using company funds, and is only to be used for educational on non-commercial purposes - with the company blessing - which I indicated. The photo that has been up on the page for the last six months was taken by someone without company authorization, on private premises, was not been approved by the company for distribution, and yet it is ok. Obviously, I've missed the secret incantation that makes you leave a change alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arfarf (talk • contribs) 18:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
New photos have been added. A permission was sent to permissions-en, as suggested on the photo pages. Arfarf (talk) 17:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC) User problemsAlan, I have checked Wikipedia:List of administrators/G-O for user:JetLover but I do not see his name on the list. Can you please check hi comment here and following? He seems to act like he's an admin, but I find no evidence tht he is one. Given that my edit summary had nothing to do with him, his interference on this matter will just serve to FTT. Thanks. Also, you me email me if you have anything to add on my behavior of late. - BillCJ (talk) 00:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
ReplyThank you very much for your comments! I'm not sure I'll have an RFA yet, though. Thanks. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 22:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC) 107 at Fox FieldVery nice shot of N192CH at Fox Field. Word through the grape vine is that it will be in an upcoming Ford Commercial.--Trashbag 18:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC) Helicopters in pop cultureAlan, User:ANigg has created the Helicopters in pop culture page. I've dropped a line at User talk:ANigg#Helicopters in pop culture asking him to remove it, and to apply to DR instead. I have not added a CSD tag at this point to give him a chance to do things the right way first, and avoid any unpleasant consequenses for skirting an AFD-deleted page. Would you mind keeping an eye on this, and following up as you see fit? Thanks. - BillCJ 19:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC) Ken EvoyWould you clarify what information (or action) is needed to remove the COI reference on the Ken Evoy article? After writing it for a while, I feel a bit attached to the thing and the "COI" is like a glaring denouncement of my work. Is it something that I did...or didn't do? Hmm, perhaps a gander into why I take this so personal-like is in order? While I consider a psychiatric evaluation, your input would be appreciated, Alan. Thanks in advanceMaltiti2005 15:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
A little harsh?Hi there. Your comment on this user's talk page: [10] is a little on the harsh side. What's all that about assuming good faith, and not biting the hand of new eds etc? I can see where you're coming from, but talk of 'copyright violations' and our policies are a little over the top. This user doesn't look like a vandal or someone intent on stealing others' copyright. He/she looks like someone that could do with a bit of guidance and actually has some pretty good fire related pictures to add, but might be just a bit over zealous in adding them and hastily creating stubs. I might be wrong, but in the meantime I've added a welcome template. Regards. Escaper27 19:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
What's wrong with TrueFocusWhy'd you delete the TrueFocus page? What qualifies it as spam? I guess adding it to focus stacking was a mistake, but why should the article be deleted? Please restore it. It's notability is that there is nothing else like it. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.84.35 (talk) 03:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC) Actually, don't worry about it, but would you mind posting the data to my talk page? I'd like to post it elsewhere.75.66.84.35 (talk) 05:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC) Clarification of free turbineAlan, the explanations of "free turbines" in the Turboshaft article are a bit vague and confusing (mentioned in two sections). Could you take a look and see if you can help? If you can't, maybe you could pass this on to someone who can. Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 07:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
FYIFYI, you may want to comment. —MJCdetroit (talk) 04:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC) Admin helpAlan or a watching admin, could you look at the discussion here on my talk page, and see if you can help answer the question? Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 08:05, 8 December 2007 (UTC) HelicopterOkay, you're the last one on the list, but only because I went down the Watchlist by visible pages. Tell me what you think and where you think the article needs to go to improve it. --Born2flie (talk) 23:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
AdoptionSo how do you accept an adoption offer? Wiki flight simmer (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)Wiki_Flight_Simmer
It’s been over 30 days and it doesn’t look like anything’s happened to the article. Are you going to re-nominate it for deletion or will you contact User:Eurocopter tigre? I just want to get the ball moving because the article is basically the as it was before you nominated it. – Zntrip 01:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Downtrip / Wikzilla IIHello, in the past it seems you have dealt with User: Wikzilla who you blocked for disruptive editing and sockpuppetry. The actions by another likely sock created shortly after Wikizila's block and kept as a sleeper account until his other accounts were blocked [11]. The Sock account has a identical style of editing and has edited only the same pages Wikizilla attacked the same editing style [12] [13]. A quick check shows the writing style used is also identical. Because of your status as a veteran administrator I ask you to look into this. Thanks for your time 68.219.147.147 (talk) 16:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
confirmed puppet, See: Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Wikzilla. Regards Freepsbane (talk) 03:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC) Pre-Meiji Period: Use of Japanese era name in identifying disastrous eventsWould you consider making a contribution to an exchange of views at either of the following: As you know, Wikipedia:WikiProject Disaster management came up with entirely reasonable guidelines for naming articles about earthquakes, fires, typhoons, etc. However, the <<year>><<place> <<event>> format leaves no opportunity for conventional nengō which have been used in Japan since the eighth century (701-1945) -- as in "the Great Fire of Meireki" (1657) or for "the Hōei eruption of Mount Fuji" (1707). In a purely intellectual sense, I do look forward to discovering how this exchange of views will develop; but I also have an ulterior motive. I hope to learn something about how better to argue in favor of a non-standard exception to conventional, consensus-driven, and ordinarily helpful wiki-standards such as this one. In my view, there does need to be some modest variation in the conventional paradigms for historical terms which have evolved in non-Western cultures -- no less in Wikipedia than elsewhere. I'm persuaded that, at least in the context of Japanese history before the reign of Emperor Meiji (1868-1912), some non-standard variations seem essential; but I'm not sure how best to present my reasoning to those who don't already agree with me. I know these first steps are inevitably awkward; but there you have it. The newly-created 1703 Genroku earthquake article pushed just the right buttons for me. Obviously, these are questions that I'd been pondering for some time; and this became a convenient opportunity to move forward in a process of building a new kind of evolving consensus. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 17:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC) User PenserPlease look into a violation of 3R by Penser who has reverted Alexander Graham Bell three times in a 24-hour period to his version. The issue of nationality was a "hot" topic on the talk page and a resolution in describing the scientist's nationality was decided upon. The lead paragraph is carefully written to indicate a main birthright as "Scottish" although an American citizenship was obtained. The amount of time spent in Canada is also discussed wherein all three nations have claimed Bell as their native son. FWIW, the user in question has also made some intemperate "attack" statements although I had earlier attempted to explain the issues on his talk page. Bzuk (talk) 13:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC). Bat Signal againForget the above request because I have started a discussion "string" on the Alexander Graham Bell talk page and instituted an invisible message to direct new editors adding to this topic to use the talk page first. However, there is this single-purpose account that smacks of a sock: Financialmodel who posts to the F-22/Eurofighter Typhoon pages on a contenious issue that was referred to appropriate talk pages. FWIW Bzuk (talk) 16:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC). Now for the other shoe!Alan, would you consider monitoring/administering the call for a consensus vote on the Fourth generation jet fighter talk page. I have no abiding interest in either the outcome nor the issue itself. I posted the following note to an editor that reacted in some trepidation to the call for a vote, (you will be able to decipher who it was quite easily). (Call for a formal vote) Please see [14] for your input on a survey regarding the use of exercise reports in the article. Bzuk (talk) 20:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC).
AH-1Z ViperAlan If you get a chance can you take a look, & if you have any input, please do so by all means User:ANigg/AH-1Z Viper Happy New Year..ThanxANigg (talk) 22:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC) Hope you had a Happy Holidays and are doing well, Alan. Bill and I are helping Drew with his AH-1Z sandbox article. -Fnlayson (talk) 22:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC) SteveMancarelliAm reviewing his unblock request. Where's the sockpuppetry evidence? It's not immediately apparent ... there are just two edits and the indefblock notice was posted by an anon who posted a bunch several months ago. But you're listed as the blocking admin, but without any statement as to who the puppeteer is and/or what the evidence might be. Can you help? Daniel Case (talk) 03:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Any chance of unprotecting this page now as hes now listed on the official website here, since you where the last admin to delete it, thanks if you can Nufc2006 (talk) 19:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC) our friendAlan, when you get a chance look at these sockpuppets here and here The IPs are from the same (problem)location.70.4.160.74 (talk) 22:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
DTT Surveillance nominated for AfDI noticed that you've contributed more than once to that article and I thought you would like to know that I've nominated it for deletion. If you are interested, please add your thoughts to the debate: WP:Articles_for_deletion/DTT_Surveillance JJLatWiki (talk) 01:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC) My two cents' worth on the Cessna TemplateG'day from Oz. It seems to me to be easier to use Model numbers for the Citations. I reckon it would look much less messy on the template, and both the Beechcraft and Piper templates use model nos. despite them being used as seldom (or more seldom) as the Citation model nos. For instance, I have never in my life heard anyone say "Beechcraft 60" or "Beechcraft 77", "Duke" and "Skipper" are in universal useage. On the other hand I have heard "Cessna 650" or "Citation 500". Alternatively, you could consider separating the names on the Template, so for example there would be three different links to the same article covering the Citation III, VI & VII. This has been done in other Templates (for example this one). Anyhoo, as I said, just my two cents' worth. YSSYguy (talk) 07:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC) Merging Sorceress into SorcererI've propsed a merge from Sorceress into Sorcerer. Since you seem to have made a few edits to the former page, could you post your comments at the Talk page? Andareed (talk) 08:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC) Weird editsIt's a long time ago, but what are these edits about? [15] [16] x42bn6 Talk Mess 01:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Pls RenI would like to be if possible renamed from iordanis_athanasiadis to iordanis_777. Thank you in advance!--Iordanis777listening 12:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Aero UnionFYI: I just started a stub for Aero Union. I noticed you had something in one of your sandboxes about it. Enjoy, --Trashbag (talk) 19:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Welcome backGreat to see you contributing again. --John (talk) 17:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
PicsAlan, are you going to be able to upload some new images? From your blog, some of the Gimli Glider would be great! - BillCJ (talk) 19:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
hahahaI was just thinking about how much I love Wikipedia, so I decided to look back at how it all started for me. I was going through my first edits, and I came across this. Have a look at the article.. consensus has determined that it was a horrible sentence. In other words, people are on my side. I don't expect to see sentences like "[insert team name] cricket batsman" or "Manchester United soccer midfielder", so why should this article be treated differently? Just pointing that out. Oh yeah, what a ridiculous edit summary! --Pwnage8 (talk) 02:33, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Welcome backHi Alan, nice to see your contributions again. "Don't let the healots get you down!" (Walter Brennan as the Colonel in Meet John Doe.) FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC).
My nominee:For worst WP:AV article of the decade (so far anyway): - BillCJ (talk) 19:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC) AATF Guidelines being questionedAlan, have you seen Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Style guide#Notability of accidents? You might be better equipped to answer User:LeadSongDog's concerns than I am, as you wrote the initial drafts, though I have done my best. Thanks - BillCJ (talk) 18:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC) |
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