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WP:Votestacking for StarWind Software Inc.

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That's what you think. You think wrong. I've been just talking to people about why they voted this way and saying "thanks" in any case. Did they vote my way or not. Including you. Would appreciate if you'd spend your time on something more creative then you do now. Thanks!

APS (Full Auto) (talk) 15:02, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

December 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/StarWind Software (2nd nomination), is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Msnicki (talk) 00:14, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I'm kind of all new here so I'm not familiar with a lot of things. I did not want to remove anybodys comments. Sorry again!

APS (Full Auto) (talk) 00:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You should leave other editors' remarks as-is. To respond, don't thread your comments into the middle of theirs, line-by-line. They have a right to expect that their comment will be left intact, to be read as a whole, in exactly the form they wrote it. To respond, indent one more level with a colon and write a new paragraph AFTER theirs. Hope that helps. Msnicki (talk) 00:38, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It does indeed! Thank you again! APS (Full Auto) (talk) 00:42, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if you'd like your article to survive, focus on putting the citations into standard form using citation templates, as I explained at the AfD. Arguing about your sources isn't going to help you until you've cleaned them up. You really only need two good sources to establish notability but they need to be good and people need to be able to tell what they are. Very few people are willing to sift through a list of URLs, half of which are primary sources or otherwise useless. Msnicki (talk) 01:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not my article but I've spent quite a time on it (had a flu and was on a quarantine at my mother's house).

That's the problem as I don't understand what's good source and what is not. If Hui says they are not acceptable then... They are acceptable or not? Or it's just his pure IMHO? APS (Full Auto) (talk) 01:38, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:RS. Msnicki (talk) 01:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks! Working on new article so far... APS (Full Auto) (talk) 22:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you'd like to see an example of how citation templates can be used with quotes, take a look at the Dennis Ritchie article or the history sections in GNU Compiler Collection or Bash (Unix shell). (Edit without saving to see how it was typed.)
As a practical matter, what you need to establish notability for a commercial product on Wikipedia is basically two good sources. They need to be written by someone not connected to the product, they can't just be reprints of press releases or other trivial mentions, and, again as a practical matter for a commercial product, they pretty much have to be traditional print sources, an actual print magazine or newspaper or an actual book. Most editors are skeptical of any source that's only a website.
The depth of coverage also matters a lot. The "gold standard" would be a 1000-word review in a well-known print magazine. (What's special about a review is that they're reporting their thoughts about the product, not what the vendor says or how the vendor says it should be used; that's the essence of notability on WP, the idea that other people took note, that they thought about it and they said something in a reliable publication.) If you can come up with two of those, you've made your case. It goes from there; at the other extreme, if all the mentions are just the product name every time anyone lists all the similar products in that category, you'll never convince anyone. Hope this helps. Good luck! Msnicki (talk) 01:11, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, please take a look at the page. I've added all the books I've found in Google (surpsisingly there are many more then SWS mention on their page) also these domains don't include each one so I suspect there are others not referenced by Google yet. And with citations. What do you think about the page now? And I think you're right - we realy need to either glue or replace company with the product as product seems to be much more remarkable then company itself. No idea how to do it however... Thank you! APS (Full Auto) (talk) 01:46, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for StarWind Software

An editor has asked for a deletion review of StarWind Software. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Hu12 (talk) 16:19, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've neither closed nor deleted anything. I'm interested to keep the page and I'm working on book citation for it. Sure I'll be happy to participate in deletion review. Thanks! APS (Full Auto) (talk) 21:43, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quotations

Adding quotations for every book is not encyclopedic, it is counter-productive and will only convince others you are engaging in promotion. Just add |page=x or |pages=y-z to the cite book template. Yworo (talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Understood! I'll keep few primary ones and will remove all others. Thank you! APS (Full Auto) (talk) 02:16, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And don't worry about the chapters. While there is a |chapter= parameter for cite book, it has a different function, used primarily where each chapter is by a different author. It would not be useful here. Yworo (talk) 02:18, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, just keeping the pages... Please take a look. Does the page look better now? Thanks! APS (Full Auto) (talk) 02:21, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, removed all of them and just left two. Does not look good from my poit of view but hope you know what you're doing :) Thank you! APS (Full Auto) (talk) 02:30, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Dully noted! Sorry about that! APS (Full Auto) (talk) 12:08, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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OK... APS (Full Auto) (talk) 07:05, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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You was too fast with your revert. I was adding the source :) Please post-pone your edit or at least review it now. Thanks! APS (Full Auto) (talk) 13:38, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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First you removed the archiveurls with a false edit summary claiming "link farming" then you removed the "dead" link from which you had earlier removed the archive version. This is not how WP:DEADLINK works. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 15:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, revert the edit with a comment. Why come posting here? APS (Full Auto) (talk) 17:23, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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