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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 19

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (December 2020).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 19th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Open tasks

Pending requests Pending requests

Miscellaneous

As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy holidays! --DannyS712 (talk) 00:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

RE: Singh Tyagi surname

Hello

1. My ancestor from 9 generations earlier from Mughal times was Chaudhary Maha Singh. The whole village is predominantly his decendents. 2. My Grandfather from Sambhal District UP did not write Tyagi as his last name, he wrote Singh. 3. My other Grandfather from Karnal Haryana did not write Tyagi either. Some of his brother's used Sharma, served in WWII. 4. My Father, an Officer in the Indian Army started writing last name Tyagi. His cousins had names like Ram Singh, Phool Singh.

Do you mean to say that all these people are not Tyagis? How, please explain? Regards.

M Tyagi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watcher2009 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

The article is not currently about a clan, but about a particular surname. (See also WP:OR) – Thjarkur (talk) 21:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Good catch re. Jouletale / Sorerspays. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:14, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm honestly almost impressed that user keeps getting away with this trick – Thjarkur (talk) 22:01, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much!

Thank you for this request! This persecution has drained me terribly, and I'm glad someone took notice of this obvious sockpuppetry.--Nicoljaus (talk) 00:01, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

​Yes I can imagine. I'm not even quite sure how your previous protests about this user being a sock went unheeded – Thjarkur (talk) 00:30, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Well, I can't say that my protests went completely unheeded )) I got a couple of wonderful blocks and they opened my IPs to all who want to know them. Okay, thanks again.--Nicoljaus (talk) 07:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

yes, please submit Craig_Melrose page for deletion

Hi Pjakur,

Yes, please delete the page HTTP://wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Melrose publishing. I was demonstrating how to set up a page and accidentally published this.

Thank you

☒N Deleted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:49, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Semaphore

Hi, you may want to participate in the discussion: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Semaphore Blockhouse321 (talk) 15:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

parm vir chakar

Punjabi Saini is the only caste of punjab state followed by jatt who had won two Parmvir Chakar[1] have shown their rajput character by Fights[2] Why you are deleting — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.225.33.150 (talk) 23:33, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

The source did not verify that claim, but secondly it is not relevant enough to mention on a list of individuals. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Why you have added mali word in saini article?mali is different caste in punjab according to Punjab land Alliation Act — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.225.46.101 (talk) 06:21, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Saini is different caste in punjab

The census of 1881 as shown on page 292 and 232 of the book linked below 'The Cyclopaedia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia, Commercial, Industrial and Scientific by Edward Balfour, Jan 1885' ascertains that Sainis and Malis have always been documented as entirely separate tribes in census. Same with page 232.


https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=yvNWAAAAMAAJ&hl=en&pg=GBS.PA294


Why is it being ignored, please understand this is a sensitive topic for Saini community and we are being mistaken for other group which lives in different part of India Remove mali word with saini articles you can say that rajput mali started only in 1937 using saini surname how you can say all saini are malies only rajput mali using saini surname not all mali in other different states . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.234.186.169 (talk) 13:23, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

File:Christmas tree in field.jpg Merry Christmas Þjarkur

Hi Þjarkur, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a very happy and prosperous New Year,
Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia this past year, like this tree, you are a light shining in the darkness.
– SD0001 (talk) 14:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Amandeepkaur Sudan (talk) 18:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC)Why Sacrifice is not an appropriate word. In spite of knowing the consequences, if someone happily goes and accepts his death then it isn't fate. It's a sacrifice.Amandeepkaur Sudan (talk) 18:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Tagged article

Hi Þjarkur, thanks for your observation amd notes on the article you've tagged as 'Advert'. The goal is to respect Wikipedia guidelines, on that regard just cleaned up and added other sources to be fully NPOV compliant. Can you please check? Thanks! Digitalpaper (talk) 08:19, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

​Have trimmed some more and removed the tag, the main thing left to fix had been the phrases unique opportunity and globally recognised – Thjarkur (talk) 11:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Fred Ngajiro

Greetings,

I have seen you also reviewed the article Draft:Fred Ngajiro. Thank you very much , though after going through it and add more reliable sources i believe you can let me know if by now is in good condition for review. Hope your keeping safeNdizibanana (talk) 14:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

​Almost all of the sources appear to be sponsored content. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your respond though i have also shared this to the help and they say not all of them are sponsored or advert content . Have you been able to go through the sources and read them?? Kindly re-check again. Thanks Ndizibanana (talk) 14:39, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

We been also discusing that byline here in Tanzania is not applicable for most sources which are reliable sources. And most of these sources are from reliable source / gorverment newspapers and all which are also used to many wikipedia articles. Kindly look again one by one article some they have byline and some are not but it doesnt mean they are paid sources. Ndizibanana (talk) 14:43, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Example this article ..how would you rate it ? https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/magazine/success/-How--Fred-Vunjabei--built-a-Sh4bn-business-empire-at-33/1843788-5637920-ec6oj5/index.html Ndizibanana (talk) 15:41, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

​It reads like sponsored coverage, as do the other articles in the same section of that website, including the standard uncritical over-the-top praise and a publicity photo with JPEG compression artifacts. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:52, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your review but other editors says otherwise ... So even this article? https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/chillax/tanzanian-fashion-icon-targets-kenyan-market-with-vunja-bei-stores

I bel Ndizibanana (talk) 16:36, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello Thjarkur, Take a look also in this link https://www.mwanaspoti.co.tz/burudani/Fred-Vunjabei-afunguka-ishu-ya-Mobeto/1799532-5631146-a3dcqm/index.html Ndizibanana (talk) 11:19, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Smartworks

Hi Pjarkur, Please provide me the the deleted material for future reference or improvement. I would like to contest and understand which statement was unambiguous advertising and would like to improve the Aiticle. I do minor edits and would love to hear learn from you.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratyush Chowdhary (talk • contribs) 16:43, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

​The article has already been deleted and so I don't have access to it, but it is sometimes possible to ask an admin to email the contents to you at WP:REFUND. If I recall correctly there were paragraphs such as "Had a dream to create a great company" and "offers business solutions" or something of the sort. The company has also previously paid editors for creating an article about them. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:54, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Pjarkur, Thank you. I have requested for recovery, could you see if it is in the right order. - Pratyush Chowdhary (talk • contribs) 16:43, 5 January 2021 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#Smartworks

In connection with article for Pixel Game Maker MV which you flagged as advertisement, you did not specify what sections are problematic. The article mentions criticism of the product, therefore it is objective. It would help if you could clarify. Rrobotto (talk) 17:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Howard Dresner page

Hello. I am completely new at this so I don't know if I am doing it correctly. I am in the process of revamping my page on Howard Dresner and I appreciate your comments. One mentioned that there could be a conflict. I don't see a conflict, so I hope that won't be a factor in getting the page approved or not flagged once I have figured out what I'm doing. Thank you. DiFreeze1 (talk) 19:08, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello DiFreeze1, if there isn't a conflict of interest then there's no problem. The only thing that would be necessary for a new article not to be tagged would be that the article neutrally summarized what independent sources said about the subject, and that sources containing significant coverage of the subject were cited. The subject does have many passing mentions, but I wasn't immediately able to find significant independent coverage of him – that can indicate that the subject isn't notable enough for an article here. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:10, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

About a Video of the Illuminati Building.

Hi, Þjarkur, just a message to explain about the video of the Illuminati. The treatment is purely historical. I'm not interested on conspirative theories but in the historical phenomena of the Illuminati. The content lets to view inside the patio where the original building of the Illuminati was. I visited the place in March, before the lockdown, and as far as I know there's no other video that shows this historical part of the building, where the jewish synagogue that was burnt on the kristallnacht was too. I deeply think it can be useful to those that investigates this historical period.

p.s. I'm sorry if I don't use the wiki codes well: I'm a beginner on Wiki comments and discussions and working with the codes it's a bit complicated for me.

Thank you, and Happy New Year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luismagerit (talk • contribs) 19:29, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello Luismagerit, sorry for the late response. I personally found your video interesting, but Wikipedia tries to limit the types of content it links to in External Links. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Þjarkur!

Happy New Year!

Þjarkur,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Jibba article

Hi there,

Thank you very much for adding a hatnote to the jibba article and nominating it for the 'Did you know...' section of the Wikipedia front page - I really appreciate the support!

Best, ErThomas1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ErThomas1 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I was working on it

like i was just saving it for then lol do you mind making an arcticlefor georgi though? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheFirstVicar4 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It's not a lolling matter, TheFirstVicar4: we can't host copyright violations anywhere on this site - not in articles, but also not in draft or user space. You're free to work on an article about that subject, but if you want to copy sources while you work on your content, do it offline and only upload here when you're finished. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 18:22, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
​We do usually delete copyrighted text from page histories, though. Regarding the subject, it's not immediately obvious to me whether he meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines, doesn't appear to have received much coverage. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:23, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Ok will do parkur

Thanks, see you around — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheFirstVicar4 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

YSN Fab

Sir, somone is messing with my page is creating the same edit over and over. It is an ip account and I belive it is vandalization. In fact, if you look at the version history you can see he deleted the speedy deletion template. You are free to put it back in although you have not responded to my recent contest. Thanks UpcomingPurse (talk) 22:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

​Certainly a strange thing to edit war over. I would recommend ignoring the matter for now, the IP has already called attention to itself in various locations. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:59, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

I will sir I guess I will wait some time and then put my edit back in. UpcomingPurse (talk) 23:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Ayazona tagged for speedy deletion

Thank you for your efforts in patrolling new pages. I wanted to let you know that I have applied a speedy deletion tag to the article Ayazona, which you proposed for deletion, because I believe it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion. In cases where it applies, speedy deletion is preferable to proposed deletion; in the future, please tag blatantly inappropriate pages for speedy deletion first if they meet the criteria. I have left the {{prod}} tag in place, so that if speedy deletion is rejected, your proposed deletion will remain in place. Thanks! JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 13:44, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Semicolons alert!

Hey there. I was just kind of "stealing" your script to fawiki and got here to remind you about using semicolons at the end of every statement. thank you for the useful script. :) --Jeeputer (talk) 23:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

​Life is certainly prettier here in optional semi-colon land ;) The MediaWiki code editor encourages semicolons for some reason, there might be a good reason for it that I don't know of – Thjarkur (talk) 00:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I didn't know that! got here to mention something like a pro and leaving like a newbie! haha. btw, i'm not a js expert and just started learning. thanks again. :) --Jeeputer (talk) 00:35, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Skyr

Dear Þjarkur,

I see you reverted my minor edit on the skyr page. Do you think it's factually inaccurate? Or is it irrelevant? Or the problem is that I didn't provide a source? If the missing source is the problem, would these articles constitute a good source: The Guardian and 10Best? Both of them mention the Icelandic tourism boom as a major driving force behind the skyr's popularity. Please let me know. Johnnyjanko (talk) 08:25, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, the reversion was only due to the lack of a source, it seemed a bit too speculative. The Icelandic sources I can find say it's due to marketing efforts from around 2005. The Guardian says the popularity is due to various marketing efforts, but that tourism has "helped to spread the word". Will add some of it to the article now. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:08, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

2lane and Teleblast Music Group

Hi there! Do you reckon it's worth putting these through AfD? It doesn't look like they'll get speedied, probably because there is an assertion of notability even though it's not supported at all by any references. Spiderone 09:48, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

​I feel it's almost not worth it, if SPI weren't so backlogged I'd have opened a case there to get these G5'd. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:12, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
It's a real pain. I'm not sure the A7 will go through as the editor has claimed that it has charted in Germany and Italy, which is technically a claim to notability. A fraudulent one but a claim nonetheless. Spiderone 15:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Anantbodh Chaitanya

What is reason for deleting the article.

Good Morning. I do not understand why you put this article for deleting.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Deimantas007 (talk • contribs) 05:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Deleting page about Anantbodh Chaitanya

Hello Þjarkur. Article about Anantbodh Chaitanya on wikipedia for many years. I just tried to put some information what I got from Internet. I do not understand if this article was not according to wikipedia policy so why wikipedia did not delete it many years ago. This person belongs to strong tradition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yogialakh (talk • contribs) 06:14, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Deimantas007 and Yogialakh, since Wikipedia article's don't really undergo "review" as such, there are many old articles here that may not meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. Regarding Anantbodh, I wasn't able to find sources showing that he'd received significant independent coverage. You are welcome to respond at the discussion page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anantbodh Chaitanya, the matter being discussed is whether the subject has received significant independent coverage. You may however first want to have a look at Wikipedia's guidelines for editors with a conflict of interest if you are co-workers / co-founders or otherwise close to the subject. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of page about Anantbodh Chaitanya

Hi,

You have mentioned that Anantbodh does not have significant independent coverage. He is a very renowned spiritual leader and has followers in Lithuania, Malta, Thailand, Indonesia and India.

https://www.patrika.com/aligarh-news/european-public-has-accepted-the-sanatan-dharma-anant-bodh-1321176/

There are much information that can be added to his page. May I request you to put the hold at abeyance for sometime and allow me to give adequate references?

Ajay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:4001:7245:E940:E73E:B07:8D75 (talk) 07:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Reconsider please AnantBodh Chaitanya Page.

I went through your discussion you mention AnantBodh Chaitanya is not the notable person. For kind information he-is working for more than 15 years with an authentic tradition. He is travelling worldwide for the promotion of Sanatan Dharam and teachings peace and harmony Please don’t delete this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.232.109.111 (talk) 18:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia page of Swami Sharad Puri

Hello, Swami Sharad Puri is a renowned saint based in Haridwar, Uttarakhand, India. He has many followers across the globe. People are looking for him on the internet. I don't understand the reason why Wikipedia has considered the page of Swami Sharad Puri for deletion. Kindly reconsider.Puneet180291 (talk) 08:08, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

See answer above – Thjarkur (talk) 00:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Sir, Kindly reconsider it once more time before deleting. Anant bodh Chaitanya is a well-known person. He belongs to very strong tradition of Hindu monk. You should not deleted this article. At least you need to consult who knows about Hindu religion and who knows about Shankar vedanta tradition.- Regards Ashirwad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.204.169.205 (talk) 10:11, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Swami Sharad Puri

Sir, Swami Sharad Puri is not only running a secondary school but also he is a Hindu monk who is working for cow protection and providing free education who really needy. This article about him should remain on Wikipedia. there is enough news about him to prove his notability. Thank you

saigrace pokharel

Hi, My page Saigrace Pokharel and Shashwot Khadka was recently deleted. Would you please be able to advise me on what should be done in future to avoid those? Also, would I be able to get my deleted page draft for editing Saigrace Pokharel please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venusorion (talk • contribs) 02:03, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Venusorion, your old page is (at the time of writing) available in Google's temporary cache. Try to focus on just summarizing what reliable secondary sources have said (not FamousBirthdays.com, Lyrics.com, SocialBlade, Facebook), and focus on facts rather than praise. Instead of "His storytelling is compelling" you'd write "Z is an author. His book X won the Y award in 2015". See WP:PUFFERY and WP:NEUTRAL. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Reason - Content Removed from the Dental Implant page

I'm removing or updating only 404 error pages on wikipedia. At the same time if I am getting the right page I'm updating the 404 error page with the correct working page. Please guide me if I'm doing anything wrong in updating the links. Can you please check my contribution and let me know if you have any inputs. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Praveenkrify (talk • contribs) 12:12, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Praveenkrify, in one instance that I reverted you the archive URL contained a functioning PDF but the new URL didn't. Archive links to the Internet Archive are usually fine and don't need to be replaced. It's usually preferable to tag dead sources with {{dead url}} rather than to remove them – removing sources makes verification more difficult and can make it seem that the content is coming from other sources in the paragraph. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:03, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Hahnsberg

You wish to delete the article on the Hahnsberg family. If you delete the entry because they are a very minor noble family, you will need to delete many others -- the v. Weber article because they are only mentioned in the Siebmacher armorial in 1845. The Hahnsbergs are mentioned in the 17th century Siebmacher.

I assumed the entry would be of historical interest.

There are more sources from the Tyrol I could include. It seems to me that relying entirely on on-line sources as criteria will leave a lot of entries on the lesser nobility liable to deletion.

Thank you,

Filo

Post Script

There are on-line sources. I can change the title of the article to Han v. Hanberg, if you wish.

The Han v. Hanberg, Hahsperg, Hahnsberg etc. was a noble family in the Tyrol. There are some on-line sources: http://wappen.tiroler-landesmuseen.at:81/index34a.php?wappen_id=15454&drawer=Grah-He http://wappen.tiroler-landesmuseen.at:81/index34a.php?wappen_id=15436 http://wappen.tiroler-landesmuseen.at:81/index34a.php?id=&do=&wappen_id=15437&sb=hahnberg&sw=&st=&so=&str=&tr=99 http://wappen.tiroler-landesmuseen.at:81/index34a.php?id=&do=&wappen_id=15437&sb=hahnberg&sw=&st=&so=&str=&tr=99 http://wappen.tiroler-landesmuseen.at:81/index34a.php?id=&do=&wappen_id=15445&sb=hahnberg&sw=&st=&so=&str=&tr=99 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlossberg_Castle_(Seefeld_in_Tirol) https://books.google.com/books?id=kp0EAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=han+von+hahnberg&source=bl&ots=yObYu-e1e2&sig=ACfU3U2HA-asNzGTCFT8g0m6P_PdpwyXjw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqraqYirDuAhVST6wKHeRECPEQ6AEwEXoECBUQAg#v=onepage&q=han%20von%20hahnberg&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filokalos1974 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC) Filo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filokalos1974 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

The Siebmacher armorial is available on-line, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filokalos1974 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

​Hi, I could see that there was an armorial with this title, but I couldn't find any coverage about the family itself that would verify the content in the article (there are claims about the year 1803 but the most recent source there is from 1801). Have you found any offline sources that directly discuss the family rather than just list its armorial? While sources don't have to be accessible online for Wikipedia to use them, it seemed to suggest non-notability that no sources in Google Books (that I could find) mentioned the family. We do indeed have some old articles on non-notable (even some made-up) families that should be deleted, but filtering through them to find which are notable is relatively time-consuming. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:49, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Inspire programme page

Hii,

I removed all promotional contant on this page thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki97828 (talk • contribs) 13:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

​Hi, what makes the article promotional are phrases such as "a unique program, which will try to attract the best talented students in science", "thousand leading students", and "Implementing such a large program in its form, transparency with speed and perfection is nothing short of a challenge in itself" – Thjarkur (talk) 13:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Many Thanks!!

Thanks for helping out with this problematic editor @Isaacbabatundeo, I have reported them accordingly for disruptive editing as well as covert UPE, I happened to nab this non notable possible covert UPE article on Adebukola Foluke Osunyikanmi who fails PROF & of which he claims the image in the article as his “own work”, tale signs of blatant UPE. Celestina007 (talk) 22:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, truly, for your edits on Sarah Haoda Todd. Through trying to de-orphan a different article, I have become interested in business women from PNG (about whom I have previously known absolutely nothing), and pulled the article together in a fairly short time -- I had not expected it to become so long. Clearly, some of my attempts to paraphrase came out as promotional, and I would have hated for poor writing to have jeopardized coverage of this impressive and notable individual. I'm grateful! Oughtta Be Otters (talk) 17:26, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

​Certainly wasn't bad writing, indeed most of what would be considered great writing in a magazine can come off as just slightly promotional when compared to Wikipedia's dry style – Thjarkur (talk) 18:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jibba

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Xigua Video - mind taking a look?

Hi Þjarkur. I've been working on a draft for Xigua Video, a video-sharing platform owned by ByteDance (my employer). I recall that you accepted my draft for Lark (software) this past August, and that you've edited the ByteDance and TikTok articles in the past, so perhaps you could take a look at the Xigua draft as well. I'm fairly certain the subject meets WP:GNG and I've tried to avoid promotional language, but I would appreciate a set of unbiased eyes to review the draft. If you think it's ready to be published, please go ahead and do so, and if not, let me know what needs to be done to get it to that point. Thanks! JatBD (talk) 12:01, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Responded at User talk:JatBD/Xigua Video – Thjarkur (talk) 13:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The Mahdi's tomb

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Mossos d'Esquadra

I have nothing to do with that company, I am 22 years old and study, it is a private foreign company hired as intelligence and threats among several, it is public information and u could find out by seeing the director's Twitter profile (@rnovoa) I don't know where you see the alleged joke.

Maybe you are ignorant about the subject and you think you know everything by eliminating without informing yourself.

--Sugarboy98 (talk) 15:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)Sugarboy98

Rubèn Novoa This person works for the General Information Commissioner of the Mossos (Catalan Police) and the section Research unit on radicalism in networks. u can find it in th web. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sugarboy98 (talk • contribs) 15:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

​The company "Hyperboloid Intelligence" is not distinguishable from a hoax/joke, and in the case that it is not a hoax it is not worthy of a mention as not a single reliable source has mentioned it. Remember to reflect what reliable secondary sources say. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 20

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (January 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 20th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Open tasks

  • As a reminder, the legacy javascript globals (like accessing wgPageName without first assigning it a value or using mw.config.get('wgPageName') instead) are deprecated. If your user scripts make use of the globals, please update them to use mw.config instead. Some global interface editors or local interface administrators may edit your user script to make these changes if you don't. See phab:T72470 for more.

Miscellaneous

  • For people interested in creating user scripts or gadgets using TypeScript, a types-mediawiki package (GitHub, NPM) is now available that provides type definitions for the MediaWiki JS interface and the API.
  • A GitHub organization has been created for hosting codebases of gadgets. Users who maintain gadgets using GitHub may choose to move their repos to this organization, to ensure continued maintenance by others even if the original maintainer becomes inactive.

Pending requests Pending requests

As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, including nominating a featured script, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy new year! --DannyS712 (talk) 01:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Itay Galo deletion

Dear Editor,

My name is Roy and i am quite new here on Wikipedia as an editor.

To begin I would like to say I appreciate the hard work you do as a volunteer and I hope I would be able to assist more in the future in such endeavors.

The page Itay Galo is only my third article to date and my first in English.

I left this message in the deletion discussion and would be thankful for any advice I can get making that article better.

Kind regards,

Roy

All sources in the article talk directly to the events in question in which the subject of the article was a major part of.

The subject of the article is a very known person in Israel and has an a page in the Hebrew Wikipedia site.

Just to make it clear I have no paid interest in writing this article and I believe the Subject deserve to be known in the English version of Wikipedia as well for Jewish people around the world that cannot read Hebrew.

Needed be the case ill provide with more sources for the information including full profile articles that were written on the subject in its native language. such as this - https://pplus.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5512748,00.html - this is a profile article in one of israel's most read magazines or this - https://pplus.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5857332,00.html this guy literally has tens if not hundreds of media coverage pieces in Hebrew.

Please let me know if there is anything i can provide or edit the article to fit the rules and regulations of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roysover (talk • contribs) 20:45, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Roysover, thank you for pointing these sources out, these are indeed the sort of sources which do count towards demonstrating notability, I have added a mention of them at the discussion page. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello Þjarkur, thank you for assisting with this matter.
Hello Þjarkur, Below is another link (unfortunately in the original language) that discusses on the most watched news Channel in Israel Channel 13 the entire process of producing along side with the Jewish community and the LA municipal authorities the Hollywood sign 2 hour concert with FaZe Banks.

This is clearly a major outlet. Thanks for considering https://vimeo.com/492389144

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 20

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (January 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 20th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Open tasks

  • As a reminder, the legacy javascript globals (like accessing wgPageName without first assigning it a value or using mw.config.get('wgPageName') instead) are deprecated. If your user scripts make use of the globals, please update them to use mw.config instead. Some global interface editors or local interface administrators may edit your user script to make these changes if you don't. See phab:T72470 for more.

Miscellaneous

  • For people interested in creating user scripts or gadgets using TypeScript, a types-mediawiki package (GitHub, NPM) is now available that provides type definitions for the MediaWiki JS interface and the API.
  • A GitHub organization has been created for hosting codebases of gadgets. Users who maintain gadgets using GitHub may choose to move their repos to this organization, to ensure continued maintenance by others even if the original maintainer becomes inactive.

Pending requests Pending requests

As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, including nominating a featured script, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy new year! --DannyS712 (talk) 01:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Promotional

Hi - it certainly wasn't promotional but there are multiple clear aligner companies available to consumers; not just SmileDirectClub. I believe we should be giving users a holistic picture of the industry rather than just naming one or two providers. I listed three very notable companies, but there are far more which are not notable that should remain unlisted. Please help me understand where I'm going wrong, as I'm not as experienced in editing here as you are. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vrfanboy (talk • contribs) 11:48, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Vrfanboy, for some reason that promotional section has stuck around in the article for a while (see this discussion from 2015 which wasn't resolved) which I find to be odd. The reason I reverted you was due to the addition of a source that is some sort of a (semi-)promotional review site. For demonstrating that a company is notable, one can cite independent sources (such as independent newspaper coverage), although I believe the section has become too much of a bait for namedrops and should be trimmed. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:17, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! That's no problem at all. Appreciate you coming back to me, Þjarkur. If will see if I can find a more reputable source perhaps! Thanks again.

Recent AfC submission template edits

Hi Þjarkur. I noticed your recent (I assume semi-automated) edits that are changing {{submit}} to {{subst:submit}} aren't actually correct. With no parameters, the submit template will assume the submitter is the current REVISIONUSER. In order to correctly substitute it, you need to pass in the argument of the user who added in (e.g., {{subst:submit|TheAfCSubmitter}}). As having the wrong user marked in the submission template will cause the wrong user to receive any review notifications, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could go back and fix these. Perryprog (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Now fixed – Thjarkur (talk) 08:31, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Much appreciated; thank you very much for your work. Perryprog (talk) 15:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Charlotte Wazen article

Thank You for reviewing and making suggestions on the article I wrote about Charlotte Wazen, I had some questions about how it works if you don't mind as this is my article.

First, I wanted to make sure that it is now published and that everyone will be able to find it.

and second, I was wondering why it doesn't appear on google when we type Charlotte Wazen, The only way I was able to find it, is by typing Charlotte Wazen on Wikipedia itself.

And finally, I wanted to inform you that I have added three new reliable sources from three different journals and magazines, will this be enough to remove the mention about "This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification" ?

Thank You, Regards.

Carl

Carlhatem (talk) 21:21, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Carlhatem, your article is published. It takes a few hours for Google to index pages, your article currently show up on Google for me. I've removed the "additional citations needed" tag, you are free to remove most cleanup tags on articles if you feel the problem has been fixed. One thing: It's not obvious whether "elected as the people's favorite presenter" is the result of a vote or whether it's the opinion of one author, like before feel free to remove those tags if you believe the issue has been addressed. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:18, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank You Thjarkur:) Yes, I just noticed that it is now available on google directly from the result page, Yes I will add more information on the "elected as the people's favorite presenter" as I have found an article about it. Regards. Carl Carlhatem (talk) 22:46, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Ibrahim EL Khoury article

Hello Thjarkur, first I want to apologize if this is inappropriate, but you are the only person I "know" on Wikipedia, as you have helped me submit the article on Charlotte Wazen previously this week :) I had a question about a new article I wrote about Ibrahim El Khoury, and this time when I clicked publish, I didn't have to wait until someone reviews it, but the problem is that when typing his name on google, I am unable to find the Wikipedia article about him, although I am able to find his article from any device when directly searching from Wikipedia itself or when clicking a link from other Wikipedia pages. Do you have any idea why his article isn't appearing on google? is it because someone has to approve it or something? Thank You for your help, and once again sorry for bothering you :) Carlhatem (talk) 09:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Carlhatem, you're always free to write here and ask (it is also possible to ask questions at the Teahouse). Your guess is correct, new articles are hidden from Google until someone reviews them (or, if nobody reviews them, they will appear on Google after 90 days). It's usually best not to worry about Google — articles are reviewed in a semi-random order and will all end up on Google eventually. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank You so much for clarifying this Thjarkur, and so I do not need to do anything in order for it to be reviewed if my understanding is correct, right? And once again Thank you so much for your fast and helpful response. Carlhatem (talk) 09:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

​Correct. Regarding your article, I wasn't able to verify all of the claims in it, for example the sources about the medals didn't mention that. We do need to make sure that sources directly verify the claims they're attached to. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Thjarkur :), I have finalized Ibrahim El Khoury's article by adding a bunch of reliable and verifiable sources, I have also added some more information and pictures. And finally, I changed some of the ways it was written as it used to look a bit like a CV. So yeah, I think it is pretty good and complete in its latest form, I hope you find it informative and complete, and if you can just review it that would be awesome :). Thank You so much for your help and advice.

Speedy Deletion of Mont Marte Page

Hi Þjarkur,

Thank you for your recommendation.

I'd like to retrieve the deleted material so I can improve the article to make sure it doesn't contain ambiguous promotion. Any other pointers/advice would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

Sophie at Mont Marte (talk) 22:47, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Lice District, Turkey Concerns

Hello. Earlier today you raised concerns over the accuracy, sources and terms used in the articles about locations in Lice District, Diyarbakir Province, Turkey. I would like to inform you that all of the instances of 'Village' in the articles created as of yet have been converted to 'Neighbourhood', as that is the appropriate translation/conversion of the Turkish word. Also, all of the citations regarding a location being in its district and province have been changed to a more appropriate and reliable source (a government website). Thanks for your advice on that. However, there is one thing I would like to ask your advice on. Another user, who has also worked on the subject quite a bit, has been adding back the source you described as possibly unreliable, as a citation regarding population of a location. Should I remove this and replace it with citation needed, or should I leave it until I find an alternative source? I know there are other locations to ask questions, but I thought as you had raised concerns over the subject, I would inform of developments and incorporate my question into it. Thanks in advance. TungstenTime (talk) 21:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello TungstenTime, I don't speak any Turkish either, so I was hoping you would be able to clarify. As far as I can see Koyumuz is an non-authoritative source auto-generated from a list, so it may not use the correct designations. It's not necessarily unreliable, but I am quite sceptical of it. It's better to keep citations in rather than to remove them unless one is sure that a source is unusable.
Is there an editathon going on? I see there are a handful of editors creating almost identical articles on entities in Turkey today with that same source.
Do be extremely careful when creating articles with Google Translate, I would encourage you to instead choose a subject where you can yourself summarize secondary sources.
– Thjarkur (talk) 21:48, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for that. What I should have clarified is that I was not using Google Translate to create the article, as it was very similar to the other pages on the subject - i.e. There is little or no variation between the opening, and in many cases, only sentence in the main article. What I was using it for was to navigate the website until I found the correct information/page, at which point I would switch back to Turkish, because translate tools are known to mess up sentences. I would then glean what information I could from it. As for an editathon, I am not aware of one. TungstenTime (talk) 22:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

A goat for you!

thanks for your help! 

Tennis Anyone?Talk 14:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


North London Mill

Thank you, Pjarkur. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wymiller (talk • contribs) 05:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:White Book About the Language Dispute Between Bulgaria and Republic of North Macedonia

Hi, I've edited again the /* Goals */ section, because of your remark "A few of the paragraphs in your article appear to have been copy-pasted from copyrighted soruce." I've used some information from the article about the Bulgarian edition of the same book, which also has been created by me, and I've noted a link to it in the 'External links' at the bottom. If you consider there are some more issues, please point them out to me so I can revise them, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAlcostar (talk • contribs) 10:13, 8 March 2021 (UTC) TheAlcostar (talk) 11:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC))

Advice

Hi there. Thanks for recently reviewing the article on Material unaccounted for I created. If you have any suggestions on how I could improve to at least C-class, I'd be very grateful. Appreciate your time. VideoGamePlaya (talk) 10:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

HAU: Journal of Ethnographic Theory

Hi. In reply to you: "Hi. Anonymous Twitter posts and pseudonymous blog posts (Medium) are not reliable sources. Particular care has to be taken when it comes to allegations about living people (see WP:BLPSPS), Wikipedia can only summarize what reliable secondary sources have said about this incident. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)"

1. If we remove anonymous twitter and blog posts then if that is the criteria, all twitter and blogposts need to be removed from the article.
2. The blog post you refer to is not pseudonymous, it a memorandum internal to an organization, example of which are cited abundantly in wikipedia entries. I will call in a moderator to resolve this dispute if it continues. Thestudentspirit (talk) 10:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

​Yes, all Twitter and blogposts should be removed from the article. These allegations are a WP:BLP violation, internal documents cannot be used here at all. Documents officially published by the organization can be used for non-controversial statements, but internal documents and WP:SPS analysis of the organizations emails can not. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:26, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

​ Ok, sounds good. The publication in question is no longer a "blogpost", but an an open access publication in a University repository. If I revert back the text about this public publication, you can no longer revert it back, is that right? It contains a neutral summary of verified findings, data for which is now published. "In May 2020 an independent memorandum was circulated by one of HAU's editors which was later published non-anonymously online, titled “David Graeber and the HAU Coup”, which charts the role of a group of notable professors, including Graeber, Marshall Sahlins, Sarah Green and Ilana Gershon, and the former HAU managing editor, Sean Dowdy, in threatening and creating a public scandal if the founder and editor-in-chief Giovanni da Col did not resign.[1] The memorandum summarizes evidence of leaked correspondence showing that behind the scandal were particular interests planning to remove the editor “at all costs” and takeover the organisation by reputational assassination, achieved by fabricating evidence and selectively manipulating recorded private conversations to deploy them publicly within the terms of wider politicised phenomena such as MeToo. Thestudentspirit

Er þetta rétta leiðin til að láta þig vita? Fékkstu ping? (talk) 15:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Martino, Enrique (May 2020). "David Graeber and the HAU Coup". Complutense University of Madrid. Retrieved 10 March 2021.
​Hæ. A paper posted to a university repository is still a self-published source and would not be used in this context. Secondly, it's not a good idea to directly edit articles about people that you are personally in dispute with (see WP:BLPCOI), Wikipedia strongly discourages it.
I have no doubts about you being correct, but having those that are directly involved with a incident write about it (and citing primary documents) is strongly discouraged because it always leads to non-neutral articles containing un-due amounts of detail. Since you have a WP:BLPCOI, do consider suggesting edits on the article's talk page with {{request edit}} and summarizing only what independent sources such as newspapers have said. (Yes I know newspapers never present things accurately, but for an open project like Wikipedia they do help to keep things relatively WP:DUE)
(Ég fékk reyndar ekki ping þarna af því að þú gleymdir að skrifa undir með fjórum ~~~~, en það er allt í lagi af því að maður fær alltaf tilkynningu þegar einhver skrifar á spjallsíðuna manns)
– Thjarkur (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

​ Ok. Thanks for your reply. It seems it will be published in another outlet then, until it suits your standards, which is a website with an editor by an author who has no connection to the issue? Because according to your definition, anything from allegralab for example is self-published and invalid. The University repository authorized its publication, it's on google scholar, can't it be cited? Are you sure? I will get back to you and ping again in about a month once its published in another outlet. In any case I am not in a dispute or an "avowed rival" nor was I directly involved in any of it, I have just a keen interest in reporting all available and verifiable facts and using available sources to provide proof for the truth and lies of the story: "Wikipedia articles concerning living persons may include material—where relevant, properly weighted, and reliably sourced—about controversies or disputes in which the article subject has been involved. Wikipedia is not a forum provided for parties to off-wiki disputes to continue their hostilities." "Therefore, an editor who is involved in a significant controversy or dispute with another individual—whether on- or off-wiki—or who is an avowed rival of that individual, should not edit that person's biography or other material about that person, given the potential conflict of interest. More generally, editors who have a strongly negative or positive view of the subject of a biographical article should be especially careful to edit that article neutrally, if they choose to edit it at all." I am not editing Green's franverdi's totally self-published wikipedia entry, which should be in any case reported to wikipedia. Thestudentspirit --Thestudentspirit (talk) 17:02, 11 March 2021 (UTC) Thestudentspirit (talk) 17:02, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Thestudentspirit

sustainable efficiency

Hi. You made a comment on my draft article about sustainable efficiency. May I ask two questions:

(1) I started an article with the title Sefficiency (Sustainable efficiency) and submitted. It got rejected stating that it is promoting neologism and should be changed and resubmitted. I tried for the second time. But this time I wanted to take out Sefficiency from the title to reduce the idea of neologism. I could not! It seems it is not possible (but I am new!) So I forgot the article, and started a 2nd article called Sustainable efficiency, which I have not submitted yet. Now it seems that these two are getting confused. What should be done?

(2) I am writing about Sustainable Efficiency, which is is abbreviated to Sefficiency, a practice that is very common in science and engineering. I am not producing a new word and the intent is not that at all. However, you got the idea that I am promoting neologism. Assuming that you are reviewing the 2nd article, would you please explain, if possible, how did you come up with such an impression? Best regards Mitral8 (talk) 14:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Mitral8 – Thjarkur (talk) 16:32, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Replied at Mitral8 (talk) 10:26, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Article for Deletion/Rachel Shevchenko

Hi there,

Thanks for your input on my recent article Rachel Shevchenko. I would like to provide additional information that might not have been considered. The object is a fashion model that has worked with variety of high-profile brands and world-wide campaigns and high-profile fashion shows and TV shows. Most of people in the fashion industry know of her. general notability guidelines has requirements of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, which the object of the article meets. According to WP:GNG "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it and also according to WP:SECONDARY secondary sources are not necessary independent sources. So the second reference is Los Angeles Magazine publishing the interview with the object's mother but the magazine is independent Los Angeles magazine. The first reference is russian newspaper talking about the object of the article. Some of other references are Getty images which is licensed stock images supplier taking photographs of high-level fashion shows only. Also according to WP:GNG there is no fixed number of sources required. And it also says Sources do not have to be available online or written in English. There are no more printed sources available in Russian printed newspapers that could be requested and should be counted in as reliable sources.

Also if there is any advice you could provide for me on how I can improve the article I would really appreciate it. It's my first article in the fashion industry but I am planning on covering more fashion-related objects. User:Elegantnetwork1 (talk) 06:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Hair of Istanbul Health Tourism Inc. for editing

Publishing a comprehensive article of an official institution and removing expressive elements similar to the introduction. I can also carry them on a similar item like discover according to your request. Thank you very much for your understanding. (Resmi bir kurumun kapsamlı makalesinin yayınlanması ve tanıtıma benzeyen ifade eden ögelerin çıkarılması. Talebinize göre sayfanın ismi de tanıtım benzeri bir öge ise onları da taşıyabilirim. Anlayışınız için çok teşekkürler, iyi çalışmalar dilerim. original text) Seyit12 (talk) 09:07, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:White Book About the Language Dispute Between Bulgaria and Republic of North Macedonia

Hi, I've edited again the /* Goals */ section, because of your remark "A few of the paragraphs in your article appear to have been copy-pasted from copyrighted soruce." I've used some information from the article about the Bulgarian edition of the same book, which also has been created by me, and I've noted a link to it in the 'External links' at the bottom. If you consider there are some more issues, please point them out to me so I can revise them, thanks. TheAlcostar (talk) 12:37, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi TheAlcostar, there aren't any more problems regarding copyright apart from this paragraph which I've removed. Your draft is just awaiting review. There is one matter which could improve your article: It's written from the point of view of the book ("which clearly present facts about the linguistic richness and unity", "total falsification and manipulative interpretation", "which has been subjected for decades to a distorted image") instead of being written from a neutral third party perspective ("the book presents arguments for the X being..."), and a such comes off as a bit argumentative. The pages WP:PERSUASIVE and WP:NEUTRAL offers some tips about how to make articles sound more neutral. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Clinical social work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_social_work

Thank you so much for assisting me in this. When does the red line material at the bottom of the page get removed:

t has been requested that certain historical revisions of this page be redacted by an administrator under criterion RD1 (Blatant copyright violations), because the page's history contains significant copyright violations of https://www.socialworkers.org/Careers/Credentials-Certifications/Apply-for-NASW-Social-Work-Credentials/The-Qualified-Clinical-Social-Worker (Duplication Detector report · Copyvios report) and of https://www.socialworkers.org/Careers/Credentials-Certifications/Apply-for-NASW-Social-Work-Credentials/Diplomate-in-Clinical-Social-Work (Duplication Detector report · Copyvios report) that have been removed in the meantime. A comment was left for the reviewing administrator: See Earwig. The revisions requested to be redacted are:

1012559032(Copyvios report) to 1012814932 (inclusive) 1013114321(Copyvios report) to 1013114321 (inclusive) Nominator: Make sure the page has already been reverted to a non-infringing revision or that infringing text has been removed or replaced before submitting this request. This template is reserved for obvious cases only; for other cases refer to Wikipedia:Copyright problems. Please do not remove this template before an administrator has reviewed it.

Just curious. Thanks again! JCarr8Wiki (talk) 20:57, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

​The tag will be removed once an administrator addresses it, usually one has to wait less than a day. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:06, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much! JCarr8Wiki (talk) 21:07, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Pjarkur, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Clinical_social_work draft is still visible on the web in addition to the actual article on Clinical social work. Is there a way to remove the draft? Also, the copyright flag at the bottom of the article still appears. I wonder if or when that will be removed. Thanks so much! JCarr8Wiki (talk) 16:09, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello JCarr8Wiki, Google usually lags a few days behind, but they always eventually update their index. It usually doesn't take more than a day for a redaction request to be addressed, there is occasionally a backlog but it should be gone relatively soon. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

on merging Bonkei to Penjing

Hello Þjarkur. Please join discussion in Talk:Penjing#Proposal to merge Bonkei to Penjing (April 2021)--HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 02:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

What sort of sorcery is this?

I just saw this comment of yours to the now blocked editor. For the love of God, how on earth did you guess that correctly? Boy am I marveled! Celestina007 (talk) 01:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

​Heh, well like many others here I did one time spend a few hours assisting a former sock of his in writing articles. It is however surprising, given the size of Wikipedia, that it's always the same handful of socks one sees in the new pages feed. – Thjarkur (talk) 08:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

CleanDiffURLs broken on deleted diffs

I'm an admin with User:Þjarkur/CleanDiffURLs. Urls to diffs of deleted revisions are of form https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Pacific+Pioneer+Broadcasters&timestamp=20210404163008&diff=prev (only works for admins). The script changes it to the broken https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/prev. I don't think deleted diffs can be wikilinked so it would be fine to just leave the url alone. The url's are rarely posted so it's not a big deal if you just ignore the issue. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:53, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

​Now fixed, thanks for letting me know – Thjarkur (talk) 18:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, that works. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:57, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

On COI - Will Hatton page

Hello Þjarkur,

Thank you for leaving a note on the page I created regarding Mr. Hatton. I am in fact associated with him. I fully intended to declare some sort of conflict of interest upon publishing the article but how to do so was vague at the time and I admittedly was a bit distracted with formatting the page (it was my first published article). I'm going to go ahead and add a COI statement template. Do I do this at the top of my user page or the article itself?

Would you be willing or able to advise on how to proceed further? I was originally advised that in a case such as this, I should create a "stub" page and let the Wiki community take it from there. I was also very adamant about being neutral and sharing only facts verified by credible third parties. Is there more I can do or could have done?

Any help is appreciated.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Roamingralph (talk • contribs) 21:10, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Roamingralph, no worries. Your text hasn't been promotional, but adding mentions of Hatton to specific travel-related articles likely places un-due emphasis on him. In addition, the blog isn't a reliable source and so is not ideal for use in other articles.
Usually it is recommended that editors with a COI place edit requests on an article's talk page. New articles can be submitted for review as drafts, but since the article has already been created it may perhaps just as well be reviewed there. From a glance I believe Hatton may not quite have received sufficient independent coverage for him to meet Wikipedia's general notability guidelines, but I'm not certain.
You can for example add the message "This user has declared a connection to X" to User:Roamingralph and/or Talk:Will Hatton. I don't really have further recommendations about proceeding, except of course continuing to improve other articles with content unrelated to Hatton.
– Thjarkur (talk) 21:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

The Eckharts

Sounds fair. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vwjr (talk • contribs) 03:47, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Article deletion for Htet Lin Aung

This article should not be deleted because he is one of the young entrepreneur,model,beauty pageant title holder,member of Mister Myanmar Organization. He is also one of popular student ambassador and child scientist 

by NCSTC Government of India.

He competed in 20th National Children's Science Congress 2012 in Banaras Hindu University Varanasi,India and went to Japan Study Program in 2014 to meet HE.Yūji Kuroiwa Governor of Kanagawa Prefecture.Currently he is one of the founder in Scholarship Opportunites for Myanmar Organization.--MarioLinn (talk) 13:37, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Best practice

Good morning,

Thank you again for helping with dealing with a potential COI.

I wanted to ask you something else on an unrelated note. I was looking through my edit history I noticed that you included the acronym "RM" very often. Does this stand for "request made?" If so, would you suggest that editors (both newbies and vets) make edit requests before changing an article rather than editing the article themselves? Asking because there are a few more articles that I'd like to add to. Taking your advice and continuing to improve WP.

CHeers,

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Roamingralph (talk • contribs) 07:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Roamingralph, "Rm unsourced" just means "Removing unsourced material". Thanks for letting me know that it wasn't clear, it's easy to fall into a habit of using unnecessarily cryptic abbreviations. You can add to any article here on Wikipedia, it's only recommended that you use the talk page when you have a conflict of interest. When making edit requests one has to use the template {{request edit}} (so that the request shows up in the edit request queue) and include specific changes in the request like so:
{{request edit}} Please add the following text to the History section: "bla bla bla<ref>citation...</ref>"
– Thjarkur (talk) 08:26, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

@Þjarkur: Ok great. I just updated the talk page of Will Hatton with this edit request. I hope that it addresses some of the issues raised. It's also good to know that I don't have to do this for every single article I want to edit. Will start contributing more now that I know this! Thanks again. Roamingralph (talk) 09:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

I see you often

I don't know where to put this properly, but thank you for the edits on the pages I have made ^^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EmilePersaud 15:55, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

​You're most welcome :D It's not often that one comes across new articles on such niche Nordic topics – Thjarkur (talk) 16:13, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Technical request

 Done List twin towns and sister cities in Israel → List of twin towns and sister cities in Israel (closed by non-admin page mover)   Kadzi   (talk) 21:09, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello dear user

@Þjarkur: .Hello dear user. You saw a page tagged as quick delete that has a page in both French and Italian. It was registered almost 8 months ago. In general, I ask you to look at the resources section And please remove the label. Thanks. Linda Lover (talk) 17:01, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Linda Lover, the sources listed do not show that the subject has received significant independent coverage, and the concerns raised at the previous deletion discussion do still apply – it's also an exact recreation of the version which was discussed. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:41, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
@Þjarkur: . Dear user, I just wanted to say that the sources are based on this.(Italian Wikipedia contributors page Linda O'Neil Translated on 26 April 2021)

Thank you very much dear user. Whatever you say, I have nothing to say. Thanks a lot. Good luck. Linda Lover (talk) 19:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

@Þjarkur: . Dear user, these details are not copyright. dear user I just saved this article from Avery Body Wiki You have nothing to do with my pages See, dear user, I have fixed the defects of this page My words are logical, but you do not change your words and actions I'm upset with you You only tag my pages And this is not true Note that the English Wikipedia rule is such that anyone who approves can tag user pages But I did not do that with your pages But I do not know the reason for your words and writings I swear these details are not copyright. Linda Lover (talk) 09:59, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Lover2022, I was not criticising you, I was pointing you towards information regarding authorship attribution – something which is a legal requirement. The articles on Wikipedia and EveryBodyWiki are copyrighted, but are published under a Creative Commons license meaning that re-use is allowed as long as the original authors are given attribution. See here for further details. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:01, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
@Þjarkur: .Toneata Morgan.The page where I got the main details.First of all, I apologize to you.×Secondly, thank you for taking the main details from this page, but I made a lot of changes to it. Thank you very much. Linda Lover (talk) 11:36, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

if i dont copy the text, how will i cite the text or article?

what are you saying? if I don't copy then how can I cite it? I copy text and put it as a citation. that's it.Matsyameena sanju (talk) 18:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

​That is not how it works. You can usually never copy-and-paste text you didn't write yourself into an article, see WP:COPYPASTE. We summarize in our own words what the sources say, and then we cite the sources so that others can see where these claims come from and can verify that they come from a reliable source. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

ShopCash draft deletion

Hello Þjarkur,

I would like to confirm that I DO NOT work for ShopCash nor will I receive any direct or indirect recompense for publishing the ShopCash Wiki page. I am, however, employed by Wego the developer of the ShopCash app and platform.

My reason for attempting to create a ShopCash Wiki page is due to the presence of a similar Wiki entry called shopback, and you'll notice that I am basing the ShopCash draft based on the aforementioned page. Please note that this isn't due to me attempting to blatantly copy said page but in order to ensure that I am following all the guidelines in formulating an acceptable Wiki entry. Essentially, since ShopCash and Shopback share some similarities, I figured why not create a Wiki entry for ShopCash. You'll also notice that I am including citations from credible third parties in the draft as required by Wikipedia.

So that's the gist of it, and I'm quite keen to find out whether or not there's any possibility for the ShopCash Wiki page to be approved/published.

Thank you.

Inglebard (talk) 15:26, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Inglebard, as far as I can tell ShopCash hasn't received any independent coverage (I can only find press releases) meaning that it isn't notable enough for a Wikipedia article. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Tanmay Telang‎

Hi Þjarkur , I've removed the CSD tag you placed on Tanmay Telang‎. I do think there's an assertion of notability in the article, and at least one of the sources is valid. I agree that the article is dubious, but I think it would need a AfD discussion in order to delete it. Best, Laplorfill (talk) 17:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Corsi hoaxes

Just a quick note to thank you for your keen attention in identifying the House of Corsi hoaxes. A few of the creations for people from further back appear to be real people, but I speedily deleted most of them as hoaxes. Fences&Windows 11:58, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

​Hi, thank you. Don't think I've seen self-promoters create such intricate lore before. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:19, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

You're probably right

I got so wrapped up in a consistent approach across articles and that I lost sight of the likelihood that, as people fluent in Icelandic, you and Eiríkur Rögnvaldsson are probably correct, at least on the question of /phonemicity/. (Help:IPA/Icelandic is still a [phonetic] template.) Maybe Icelandic did have phonemic consonant length and non-phonemic vowel length in its relatively recent past, but it's entirely plausible that a loss of consonant length phonemicity /VC(ː)/ triggered a shift to vowel length phonemicity /V(ː)C/ that other references haven't caught up with. The same thing happened in Middle English, too, and centuries ago in a lot of other Germanic languages; Icelandic may have just been slower to reach a similar point. In this sense, the references may not contradict each other so much as some references know things that other references don't.

But I think it would still help to have additional references and verification. In particular, if the scenario I described is anywhere close to accurate, then "at approximately what time period did the change happen?" And even if Eiríkur Rögnvaldsson is totally 100% correct, he is still a single (third party) source of this claim that hasn't necessarily been supported or corroborated by other recent third party references I've been able to find. The claims need bolstering with additional verifiable third party references that don't rely entirely on his references. And not to nitpick too much, but...references either written in or properly translated to English would be preferable, as I'll usually never be able to read references written entirely in Icelandic or Danish unless I run them through Google Translate.

Not only that, but...the combined state of the articles for Icelandic language, Icelandic orthography, Icelandic phonology and Help:IPA/Icelandic is still a mess. We know they're sprinkled with errors from well before my attention to them. I would love to be part of the solution in fixing them, but we also need the proper references to know which way to steer them and what to cite as we go. Which means we need enough attentive users to carry out a consensus process. Correcting these articles would not always be trivial either, as their texts sometimes read like someone's essay, and it's not always easy to modify their wording after they've been written. Essay or not, large parts of the article texts have uncited (and sometimes dubious) claims with no footnotes. I already tagged a few claims as dubious, but that's not a real fix. Some fully referenced rewrites may be in order. And there are still other outstanding issues, like whether some established IPA notation conventions from the references may actually be inappropriately idiosyncratic and misleading, especially in regards to mid vowel, central vowel and diphthong notation.

I have prior experience working on the Marshallese language article, another language I'm nowhere near fluent in but which is certainly far more near and dear to me than Icelandic. And unlike Icelandic, most fluent Marshallese speakers don't even have regular internet access to be consulted, so that at times it almost feels like we're trying to document an ancient dead language. Nevertheless, there are still a lot of Marshallese linguistics references out there, and I found other editors to help me clean up and expand article text, and even review references with me, including some only available in printed book format. And in the few places where references actually did contradict each other, we referenced and made note of those contradictory details. It also didn't help that Marshallese doesn't really have a fully conventional IPA notation, and some of the core references seem to have deliberately avoided using IPA (though they still describe the phonology in good detail and use non-IPA phonemic transcriptions as guides), so we've been having to...come up with an IPA notation ourselves, on Wikipedia, which I know is not the most ideal situation. Fortunately, the references have mostly agreed on their central details, and while parts of the article can still be confusing or convoluted to read, we at least got them to the condition when they weren't...actually that inaccurate or self-contradictory. More work needs to be done, but the situation there has greatly improved.

After so much time working on that, I found Icelandic to be a delightful new fascination, since most of the core linguistics article work already appeared to be written. But now it's clear that so many of those articles' details have always been incorrect. What a mess. And I don't quite know what to do with it all. - Gilgamesh (talk) 01:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

If xwiki harassed

Hi. If you are getting xwiki harassed at small and medium wikis—places covered by the global abuse filters—then give me a ping here or on metawiki, and I will put in place some remedial measures. Won't be perfect, however, it will cut down some of the problems. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:40, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 21

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past four months (February through May 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 21st issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

My apologies for this long-overdue issue, and if I missed any scripts.
Hopefully going forward we can go back to monthly releases - any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 13:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello Jarkur, pleased to meet you. If you're new here, then you may want to consider checking out the Wikipedia Tutorial, or if you have a problem, you could visit the teahouse or get live help. Then once you've learned a few basics, consider creating an article. Just remember to use the searchbar before you do that because the article your aiming at might already exist. If you think your not ready to create an article, you could create a draft instead. Thank you for reading this message.Sparklestern (talk) 22:24, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

New Page Review queue September 2021

Hello Þjarkur,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.

Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.

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November 2021 backlog drive

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 22

Hello everyone, and welcome to the 22nd issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter. This issue will be covering new and updated user scripts from the past seven months (June through December 2021).

Scripts Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!

New scripts New scripts

  • Ahecht:
  • Awesome Aasim:
    • Infiniscroll adds infinite scrolling to user contributions, page histories, and log pages.
    • Quick create allows for the fast creation of red-linked pages with two clicks.
  • Caburum:
    • UTCclock adds a clock displaying the current UTC time.
  • Chlod:
  • DaxServer:
    • BooksToSfn adds a portlet link in Visual Editor's source mode editing, in main namespace articles or in the user's Sandbox. When clicked, it converts one {{cite book}} inside a <ref>...</ref> tag block into an {{Sfn}}.
  • FlightTime:
  • Jon Harald Søby:
    • diffedit enables editing directly from viewing a diff "when, for instance, you notice a tiny mistake deep into an article, and don't want to edit the entire article and re-find that one line to fix that tiny mistake".
    • warnOnLargeFile warns you if you're about to open a very large file (width/height >10,000px or file size >100 MB) from a file page.
  • JPxG:
    • PressPass adds a collection of tools for Newspapers.com including configurable automatic citation generation in five different formats.
    • CurrentSwitcher gives you links on the contribs page to hide duplicate entries, current revisions, rollbacks, huggles, twinkles, and redwarns.
    • TrackSum lets you automatically sum the lengths of tracks in templates like {{track listing}} and get total runtimes.
  • Nardog:
    • CopySectLink adds a button to copy the unencoded page title or section path next to each heading.
    • IPAInput allows you to type in IPA symbols by directly looking at an IPA key like Help:IPA/English and clicking on the symbols.
    • TemplatePreviewGuard warns when you try to use "Preview page with this template" with a page that doesn't transclude the template.
  • NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh:
    • ContribsTabVector adds "Contributions" and "Statistics" tabs to user and user talk pages on the Vector skin.
    • CopyvioChecker adds a "CopyvioCheck" tab to all pages, except Special (Vector skin only).
    • LiveDiffLink is a version of Equazcion's LiveDiffLink which shows a wikilink instead of a URL.
    • QuickDiff (by OneTwoThreeFall at Fandom) lets you quickly view any diff link on a wiki, whether on Recent Changes, contribs pages, history pages, the diff view itself, or elsewhere. For more information, view its page on Fandom.
  • Novem Linguae:
    • DetectSNG scans a list of 1,600 SNG keywords and displays them at the top of the article.
    • NotSoFast highlights recently created articles in the new pages feed, to discourage patrolling them too quickly.
    • UserRightsDiff concisely displays what perm was added or removed when viewing Special:UserRights.
    • VoteCounter displays a rough count of keeps and deletes at XFDs, RFCs, etc.
    • WatchlistAFD automatically watchlists the AFDs of any pages you AFC accept or NPP patrol, to help you calibrate your reviewing.
  • P.T.Đ:
  • Qwerfjkl:
    • editRedirect adds a → link after redirects to edit them.
    • RegExTypoFix, a script for fixing typos, is a wrapper for User:Joeytje50/RETF.js.
    • talkback creates links after user talk page links like this: |C|TB (with the first linking to the user's contributions, and the latter giving the option of sending a {{talkback}} notice). It also adds a [copy] link next to section headers.
  • Rublov:
    • diff-link shows "copy" links on history and contributions pages that copy an internal link to the diff (e.g., Special:Diff/1026402230) to your clipboard when clicked.
  • Rummskartoffel:
    • auto-watchlist-expiry automatically watchlists every page you edit for a user-definable duration (you can still pick a different time using the dropdown, though).
    • generate pings generates the wikitext needed to ping all members of a category, up to 50 editors (the limit defined by MediaWiki).
    • share ExpandTemplates url allows for easy sharing of your inputs to Special:ExpandTemplates. It adds a button that, when clicked, copies a shareable URL to your exact invocation of the page, like this. Other editors do not need to have this script installed in order to access the URL generated.
    • show tag names shows the real names of tags next to their display names in places such as page revision histories or the watchlist.
  • Tol:
  • Venkat TL:
    • ColourContrib color-codes the user contributions page so that pages you've edited last are sharply distinguished from pages where another editor was the last to edit the page.
  • Vukky:

All in all, some very neat scripts were written in these last few months. Hoping to see many more in the next issue -- drop us a line on the talk page if you've been writing (or seeing) anything cool and good. Filling in for DannyS712, this has been jp×g. Take care, and merry Christmas! jp×g 07:30, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Sus

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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello Þjarkur,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 812 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 848 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Þjarkur,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 15651 articles, as of 18:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

Reminders
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Notes
  1. ^ not including another ~6,000 redirects
  2. ^ The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.

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"Kafka trap" listed at Redirects for discussion

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

New Page Patrol | July 2022 Backlog Drive
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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello Þjarkur,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination
MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
Open letter to the WMF
The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
TIP - Reviewing by subject
Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
New reviewers
The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.
Reminders
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