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The reference links for the Irish charts that go to chart-track.co.uk don't appear to be a valid indicator of a song's peak position. It goes to a specific chart week without indicating the peak position of the song, just the position of the song for the given week. Is there somewhere that the actual peak position can be verified using the macro? --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 00:29, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
You mean http://irish-charts.com/ ? That's just a placeholder domain. It doesn't actually store the Irish charts. If there's a real Hung Medien archive of the Irish charts, I'd love to hear about it: it would simplify my coding.—Kww(talk) 00:56, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Here's the page for The Black Eyed Peas (a bit below the middle of the page). It's just that when you click the song title, it doesn't show the trajectory or the peak. Yves (talk) 01:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Hmm. I'll have to think about that. In general, I don't like it, because you can't tell when it peaked. Still, Starcheerspeasksnewslotswars has a point that with chart-track, you aren't sure it even is a peak.—Kww(talk) 03:22, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
You can check that it's really pointing at a peak at either http://www.irishcharts.ie/search/placement or acharts.us. Irishcharts.ie doesn't allow you to put the artist or song title in the URL, and acharts.us is an unlicensed site that doesn't meet WP:RS, so chart-track.co.uk was the best I could find.—Kww(talk) 00:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Field names chart and peak
In my editing extravaganza yesterday, I described the first two parameters using names I invented on the spot {chart and peak). I did it because I thought they ought to have names, and because when they have names, they're easier to document. However, I left the description of their functionality as positional parameters (not only is that not a bad idea, it's actually what works). So now the documentation claims that both ways work.
If you developer types like the idea of having names for these parameters, you'll need to (1) build that in sometime, (2) decide if you prefer those names or some others, and (2) decide whether to leave the positional functionality in there. If you don't like the idea, then just let me know so I can correct the documentation (unless you do it yourself). Best regards.— JohnFromPinckney (talk)18:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Official Charts Company
Nice template, very useful. Is there any reason why the UK charts are all credited to "Official Charts Company" rather than "The Official Charts Company", which I'm pretty sure is its actual name? I'd change it myself, but I just wanted to check that there was no reason I was missing. Thanks very much. Vobedd731 (talk) 17:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
On a slight side issue GA and FA requires articles to use only the primary licensed publisher for the charts. Chartstas as far as im aware is a secondary source - theofficialcharts.com is the official licensed chart publisher therefore shouldn't the UK chart template use that as it's reference? Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 13:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
This is a side note, not to distract from a conversation that I hope continues: the guidance in WP:GOODCHARTS is to use a licensed source, not a primary licensed source. Thus, the Hung Medien charts can be used even when the official provider has an archive, too. Chartstats isn't licensed, but there are still issues with archival of positions 75-200 of the UK charts, and I'm happy enough to let editors and reviewers argue those out on a case-by-case basis.—Kww(talk) 14:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
It's WP:GOODCHARTS that says FA and GA articles shouldn't include unlicensed charts. I think it's sound advice: it's very hard to claim that an unlicensed anonymous archive passes WP:RS.—Kww(talk) 22:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Ultratop.be
Just a note that for any reference to Ultratop.be, we can change the non-English site used to English by changing "fr" or "nl" to "en". I don't think that will work for the other Hitparade sites, but at least the Belgium pages can be in English. I'd modify the template myself, but I don't want to take a change and screw something up.— Huntster (t@c)23:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Problem with Czech template
How come for the check template: Hitparáda - RADIO TOP100 Oficiální. appears italicized but in the Slovak one, Hitparáda - RADIO TOP100 Oficiální. it doesn't. Surely neither should be italicized? --Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Hitlisten for Denmark
How come we have IFPI for Denmark in the template, when we have Sverigetopplistan for Sweden, they are both IFPI ? it should be Hitlisten for Denmark. --Ahmetyal 15:10, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
When you do that, there's also an extra space between the (Billboard) and the reflink on the Billboardrandbhiphop macro you could expunge. It's probably not your mistake but it's in there anyway. The other BB macros are okay. — JohnFromPinckney (talk)17:55, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Hungarian charts
Why are the Hungarian charts like this www.www.mahasz.hu ? Ahmetyal 18:02, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Where do you see that? I just looked at La Tortura as a random check, and the links there are
I meant in the template, it says www.www.mahasz.hu. Ahmetyal 18:32, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
That was in the template documentation. Looks like just some kind of cut-and-paste error when it was being written. I've corrected it.—Kww(talk) 18:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Why is the output for the Denmark Airplay template: "Denmark Airplay (Tracklisten)", when Tracklisten is the name of the Danish Singles Chart? Quite a contradiction... --z33k (talk) 23:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Belgian charts
Comment on the template, regarding the Belgian charts:
The Ultratop organization produces separate charts for Flanders and Wallonia, with different numbers of charting songs in each community. The Flanders chart is Ultratop 50 (Flemish), while the Wallonia chart is Ultratop 50. I put those into the "doc" page for the template as the actual chart names, but I'm not about to make that kind of change to the template itself.
IMHO, what's displayed in the template can stay as is, but the underlying link should go to Ultratop 50 for Flanders and Ultratop 40 for Wallonia. Agreed? — Dale Arnett (talk) 09:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
The official charts in Switzerland are provided by Hitparade.ch, whereas the Template reads Media Control Charts. While Media Control GfK International is a division of GfK focusing on the entertainment business, simply the name, Media Control is strictly the name of the charts provider in Germany. Does Media Control GfK International work with Hitparade.ch also? I know it works closely with PROMUSICAE in providing the charts in Spain. In any case, if Media Control GfK International does work with Hitparade.de in providing the charts in Switzerland, it should not be confused with Media Control. For Switzerland, it should perhaps be Media Control GfK International: Hitparade (if any involvement at all). It is (for example), Media Control GfK International: PROMUSICAE for Spain, but then, we mention PROMUSICAE only. In the same vein, we should simply go with Hitparade for Switzerland and link it to Swiss Music Charts.--Harout72 (talk) 20:45, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Czech template "comment"
From the description on the template page: " A comment is generated in the reference to show what should be entered in the search table to produce the correct chart." As seen on the article, What the Hell, the comment says to "insert 20111 into search". The dates on the website, however, are listed in a six-figure manner. So "201101" would be correct. I would also revise the word "search" to read "drop-down menu" or similar. I spent a short time searching for a search field, even doing a Cmd-F for "20111" and finding nothing, before realizing what was going on. It's a bit confusing. Thanks. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies18:24, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
I would like to introduce new charts to the template {Singlechart}.
Template would be very similar to those of the Hungarian charts.
Below I present their proposals:
I propose to add one more thing to Fields:chartid. Let me explain why:
chartid: Numeric identifier used by some chart listings (see Polish Music Charts). Determined by performing a search at the chart listings' website for the archive chart. The chartid can be found in the Web address (URL) to inspection. For example, Polish Airplay Chart of 12 November 2011 at www.zpav.pl has the URL http://www.zpav.pl/rankingi/listy/nielsen/top5.php?lang=2&idlisty=532 has the URL, so the chartid to use is the 532
So the tip of every Polish charts chartid is in this case is the number of 532
All charts are archived and are chartid. Please add Polish Charts
I'll try to fix up what you did today and include it. I'll just call them Polish Airplay and Polish Dance, because that's the way it's done for every other chart.—Kww(talk) 22:48, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
The website chartarchive.org is no longer usable. The section that shows a song's/album's chart performance has been replaced with the message "The official chart company claims that I am in breach of their database rights by publishing charts, therefore they have been removed". Till01:11, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
And people wonder why I beg them not to hardlink to these sites. I'll be able to fix it for every position under 40, I think. Maybe. There are some problems with handling links to the Official Chart Company as a replacement because they mishandle spaces, but I'll get there. Only 750 references to fix.—Kww(talk) 01:42, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
I'll put anything I can't fix automatically into a separate category so we can conveniently step through them.—Kww(talk) 02:11, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Request to include charts from Billboard.biz
I was wondering if it would be possible to include the charts from Billboard.biz on the singlechart template? Specifically, I'm referring to charts at the archive page on the Billboard.biz which are not posted on the main Billboard.com site. A subscription is not required to view these charts. Erick (talk) 01:16, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Is there a template for Japanese Oricon charts? The website functions similar to the Billboard website, and each artist has an id. The albums and singles page are separate too. Novice7 Talk09:53, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
I've merged the change into the main template, and am removing the user template. It was probably done in good faith: he caused trouble the last time he edited the main template, and I told him to test it in a user version before going live. He doesn't seem to have quite understood what I meant.—Kww(talk) 23:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Documentation seems incorrect
I might be missing on the documentation, but in the "Full version" area the format given (using chart=..) does not work. --Muhandes (talk) 09:39, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
I saw the section above, but I feel I'd get a quicker answer here. Can you add Allmusic as the chart positions? It would be an easy, but I don't know the code all too well. —Michael Jester (talk·contribs) 02:43, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Actually, there's more should be here
While going through some things, I compiled a list of countries/charts that should be added here:
Brazil's Billboard Brasil from either [1] or Archive.org
Change in the server processing on the UK side. Aren't you glad that I will be able to fix every chart at once, instead of trawling through them individually? I'll do it tonight before bed.—Kww(talk) 14:38, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Actually, it handles them fine. It's Hung Medien that does it improperly, and I haven't been able to convince Stefan Hung that he needs to fix his server to meet the standard. That means that most of the European chart sites won't work with names with special characters. I've never figured out a workaround.—Kww(talk) 11:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
I take it back. I can't find an archive link for the chart. If you can find me an archive link, I can modify the template.—Kww(talk) 02:40, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
What is the difference between the "Top 5 airplay" and "Top 5 airplay - nowości" charts of Poland? Till03:11, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Top 5 airplay - nowości is the top 5 songs that were released that week. It's a useless chart, and shouldn't be included. If you are still finding it in articles, I'd be willing to add it to WP:BADCHARTS.—Kww(talk) 03:14, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
The unique code that Billboard uses for the Rap Songs chart on the chart history pages appears to have changed from 370 to 1222. However, they seem to have removed all previous entries on the chart from the site entirely (apart from the ones recorded this week), so an alternate source needs to be found for these songs until (or if) they restore these records to the site. I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing.10:55, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi! At the moment, for the Irish Singles Chart we only use the archive available at chart-track.co.uk. However, on irishcharts.ie we have a searchable archive which also includes old chart positions. Isn't is possible to modify the template so that we can use this source? The template should generate the url http://irishcharts.ie/search/placement?page=1&placement%5Btitle%5D=title, as i did in Livin' on a Prayer. --Stee888 (talk) 20:16, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for breaking the code for passing search parameters in the URL. That's the reason it wasn't used. BTW, "&placement[artist]=" also works. It doesn't seem to accept both at once though. You'll have to give me a bit of time to figure out how to switch over without breaking existing uses.—Kww(talk) 20:38, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Dutch Top 40 and Mega Single Top 100
Which is the better chart? Can both be included in one article? Also, which one is more suitable in a discography article? Till11:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I may recommend to use the Dutch Top 40 if the song charted from No.1 to No.40 and Mega Single Top 100 from 41 to 100 :). I will do a research to give you a more helpful comment. Regards. — ΛΧΣ21™15:25, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Long standing practice is to use the Dutch Top 40 when it charted there, and the Mega Single Top 100 when it didn't. The reason is that the Dutch Top 40 is a combined sales/airplay chart while the Mega Single chart is a sales-only chart.—Kww(talk) 20:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Kind of late—but should the Mega Single Top 100 be removed if a song has charted on the Dutch Top 40? Till12:12, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Is now defunct. As per a message on the site as seen here, the Official Charts Company threatened to take legal action claiming the website duplicated information from OCC's own site. Perhaps a note should be added? — Lil_℧niquℇ №1[talk]16:40, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Billboard.com relaucnh
Billboard's relaunch may result in some dead links, although I'm sure it is fixable. For example, the link for Imagine Dragons' hits on the Pop Songs chart before the new .com was:
Note that also, Country Songs is now formally Hot Country Songs and Rock Songs is Hot Rock Songs on both websites. Thanks. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me20:33, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
It's pretty much a disaster. The link format change is easy, but the artist_id changed for every artist in their database. It's going to take some time to figure out how to fix this mess.—Kww(talk) 21:34, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Could you please you include the Latin Rhythm Airplay into the template? Although the weekly charts for this chart is still not available to the public, it is included in the artist history now. EDIT: They also seem to have included the Mexican Airplay on the artist chart history as well. It doesn't seem to include any chart positions prior to the Billboard relaunch though. Luxembourg Digital Songs are also included as well. Using Pitbull as an example. Mexico Airplay, Latin Rhythm Airplay, Luxembourg. Erick (talk) 02:30, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I've found a bug in the URL expansion for artists with spaces in the name: Billboard has chosen to use a non-standard expansion for spaces, and I have to figure out how to get past it.—Kww(talk) 05:08, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Massive revision of singlechart/BillboardID
Due to the major revamp of the Billboard charts, I've had to make substantial revisions to singlechart and BillboardID.
In short, singlechart no longer listens to the artistid parameter you pass it. It will use the name to look up the artistid number using {{BillboardID}}. {{BillboardID}} now supports over 30,000 artists. It's brand new and took my computer over a week to generate, so it undoubtedly has bugs and missing entries. If the template can't find the artist, then edit the corresponding entry in the templates.
The list got so huge that it's broken up by first character: "101 strings" in in {{BillboardID/1}}, for example. Thanks in advance for your help. It's a simple system, so we should all be able to maintain the tables without having to funnel everything through me. If you can't figure it out or it's blowing up in some new and unexpected way, let me know and I'll get it debugged.—Kww(talk) 23:15, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
UK Chart Stats
A recent revision to the Mediawiki software finally let me implement a reasonable fix for the ChartStats problem. Anytime singlechart used to generate a link to chartstats, it now links to the artist's discography page on theofficialcharts.com.
The only problem is that UKchartstats supported positions down to 100, and the OCC only supports positions down to 75. Songs that cannot be handled anymore are listed in Category:Singlechart used with UKchartstats that cannot be substituted, so some help getting those articles fixed would be appreciated. They probably need to be linked to zobbel, but I can't make automatic links there.—Kww(talk) 18:57, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Because finding the chart numbers is a hunt-and-peck process. Post some links to artists that have charted there, and I can expand the template.—Kww(talk) 12:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
One that looks like http://www.billboard.com/#/artist/<artist name>/chart-history/<artist number>?f=<chart number>&g=Singles. Without the chart number, I can't build the template.—Kww(talk) 14:59, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
It's never worked for names with non-English characters: it's a bug in Hung Medien, and Steffan Hung says he won't fix it. The problem with "Scream and Shout" was that someone used "refname=nz" when there was already a ref named "nv" that pointed at the wrong place. I fixed that.—Kww(talk) 01:51, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
Ah I see. Is there no way to use "Emeli Sande" and it work? If you manually type that it pulls up the search, but the single chart template can't compute it. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1[talk]13:31, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
There's a new release of Wikimedia software coming out tomorrow that includes features that may let me make it work, but right now, no. It's been a problem for seven years. Hung Medien doesn't want to upgrade the software on their side, and the Wikimedia developers aren't happy about supporting sites that don't escape characters correctly. The new Lua scripting modules may allow me to make it work anyway.—Kww(talk) 15:10, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
Where did they all go? E.g. what happened to the European Hot 100 chart, it used to show all the positions on this chart for the specified artist but does not appear to be there anymore. Till13:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
If you check out the chart history section for artists on Billboard.com, it doesn't list secondary charts such as Bubbling Under Hot 100 or Luxembourg Digital Songs. During the revamp of the website, it temporarily did and those pages still exist on the site. So, we can link to such pages like http://www.billboard.com/artist/302597/Garth+Brooks/chart?f=344 and http://www.billboard.com/artist/339631/Pitbull/chart?f=913, but you wouldn't know what it was simply by looking at it because Billboard doesn't list the chart name anymore and thus we cannot actually confirm that these are for the Bubbling Under chart or the Luxembourg Digital Songs chart, respectively. All we have to go by is a number assigned by Billboard and a reliance on Wikipedia that this is the chart it's supposed to be. These singlechart uses should probably be temporarily disabled. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me00:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
They've modified the website to place the UK Singles Chart into a special region that uses a different URL format. They have installed redirects from the old format to the new. Singlechart generates the old format, which still works. The only problem is the date: if you copy the date from the new format, it will break. You have to format the date as yyyy-mm-dd with singlechart. I'll see if I can put in some logic to make it insensitive to date format.
Looks like Launchballer made the change, and it works now. Two comments, though, Launchballer:
Since nothing was actually broken, there was no reason to make a change at all.
Since nothing was actually broken, there was especially no reason to make the change without testing it first. We had a period of 15 minutes or so where all the old links were broken. I have a whole test setup designed to let me make changes and test them locally. When there's a change like this, either test it yourself before deploying it or let me know what you want to change so I can test it.—Kww(talk) 17:13, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Actually, on the page I was editing, it was broken - as I said, it was chucking up a 404 and wasn't showing the intendedany chart. But noted.--Launchballer17:59, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Scrub part of my initial comment: what I thought was a redirect was actually the effect of a change to the template that Launchballer had made and I was unaware of. As the change directed to a top 10 list instead of a top 40 list, the change has been reverted. The initial problem that started this was a missing "0" in a date, which I have corrected.—Kww(talk) 19:01, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
What is the value of 'publisher'? If someone wants to check a citation from Billboard, say, it doesn't help them at all to be told that the magazine is published by Prometheus Global Media, nor that the ARIA Charts are published by Hung Medien. Colonies Chris (talk) 13:39, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Official chart is here, chart archive is here. As you can see, link for the archive can be simply generated just by yyyy-mm-dd, so it would be nice to add something like that:
Can you find any source that indicates that FDR is an official recognized chart? That's why the template has never been built: I'm not at all certain that we should be using it at all.—Kww(talk) 16:09, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
I doubt this chart's national or recognized status too. Article was created not so long ago and moreover before recent edits it contained wrong information. Chart itself is often confused with FDR's compilation albums that can be seen periodically even in wikipedian articles. So maybe FDR Charts page should be removed? I would not have anything against it, but I see this chart on wikipedia more and more often.--demistalk18:25, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Ifpi.fi is the first publisher of official Finnish charts. One example url: [3]. Please implement this to the template, thanks. --Stryn (talk) 11:12, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I did that. However, be careful with featured songs, because the ifpi.fi produces tons of dead links if the template usages for featured songs aren't edited: ifpi.fi has different (IMHO, inconsistent and messed-up...) URLs for featured songs:
{{singlechart|Finland|6|artist=Jennifer Lopez|song=Dance Again (Feat. Pitbull)}} produces the right link, [4] but {{singlechart|Finland|6|artist=Jennifer Lopez Feat. Pitbull|song=Dance Again}} produces a dead link.[5]
{{singlechart|Finland|6|artist=Pitbull Featuring Christina Aguilera|song=Feel This Moment}} produces the right link, [6] but {{singlechart|Finland|6|artist=Pitbull|song=Feel This Moment (feat. Christina Aguilera)}} produces a dead link.[7]
Hi, I put this already on the doc talk, but anyway I'll copypaste it here as no-one seems to have noticed it there:
As you have noticed, there are two official charts in Finland, both published by Musiikkituottajat: Suomen virallinen singlelista (Official Finnish Singles Chart, physical/digital sales + streaming) and Suomen virallinen latauslista (Official Finnish Download Chart, digital sales). In case of foreign artists that chart in multiple countries, omitting the Finnish download chart makes sense if the release has charted on the Finnish singles chart. But in case of Finnish artists that chart only in Finland – and, well first and foremost, sing in Finnish and therefore do not chart abroad, – allowing both the charts makes sense, as it properly reflects the local popularity of the songs. (In some cases, the Download Chart positions are notably higher than those on the Singles Chart, e.g. with Haloo Helsinki!.) Could we discuss, perhaps vote and make some kind of a guideline out of this? -- Puisque (talk) 18:51, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Why would component charts for Finland be any more useful than they are for any other country? Are there sales captured in the download chart that are not reflected in the main chart?—Kww(talk) 19:27, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
There's a little problem when there are two different releases of a single that charted, eg. Everything Counts. The original studio version charted in 1983, and the live version, recorded on their Music for the Masses tour, charted in 1989. I just added singlechart templates to two separate chart tables, one for 1983 and other for 1989. I though the date parameter separates them, but the references created by the template are both pointing to the first chart table at OCC. It'd be nice to be able to use the template on both tables. Here's a diff list where you can see the unwanted result. --Sk4170 (talk) 14:02, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
I actually know this one: all it means is that that artist's name and code haven't actually been added into the appropriate BillboardID template yet, usually because the artist is relatively new on the scene or has had little charting material. As a courtesy, I've added in the two examples you've mentioned (because I'm nice like that, yersee): to add in new artists in the future, go to Template:BillboardID/first letter of the artist's name and enter in the appropriate code and names, keeping it in alphabetical order. They don't get added into the template automatically – us lowlife users have to do that ourselves. I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing.17:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Oh okay, thank you very much. I had no idea there was a place where we could add it to the BillboardID template, I will do that from now on as soon as I notice new chart histories. STATicmessage me!17:47, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
My only concern is that if you're going to use something like this, which is the list of Mainstream Rock hits for Cage the Elephant, Billboard doesn't currently identify the chart by name, so how can one prove it is what it is. It can't be verified until they add a name to it (and there is no direct link from the site to pages like this). This is the same for other charts that are only published on the subscription Biz site. The good news is that they've recently added more of the exclusive biz charts to Billboard.com, including Mainstream Rock and Rhythmic, so it may not be long before the artist's histories will include them by name as well. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me04:38, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
As I suspected they would, Billboard has updated their website so an artist's chart listing can now be confirmed for Mainstream Rock and Rhythmic. I've added entries for both the Mainstream Rock and Rhythmic charts, so they both can utilize the singlechart template (see Check My Brain and Say My Name for examples of their use). --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me23:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Polish Airplay
Is there any particular reason for using Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry as a link for Polish Airplay Top 20? Polish Music Charts would make more sense. I know that the chart is compiled by BMAT and published by ZPAV, but eg. UK Singles Chart is linked like this: [[UK Singles Chart|Official Charts Company]]. Polish airplay could be linked this way as well: [[Polish Music Charts|Polish Airplay Top 20]]. — Mayast (talk) 23:03, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Inline citations
It appears that inline citations using the template don't link to the reflist at the bottom of the article – usually if you hover over a citation number it brings up a box with the full citation in it, and if you click on a citation number it "jumps" to the citation in the references list at the bottom of the page. Unless I've screwed up something on my formatting, the template doesn't do either of these things. Richard3120 (talk) 22:28, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I'll take a look into where the magic boxes are coming from and see if I can replicate the functionality. For arcane technical reasons, the singlechart and albumchart templates don't actually use <ref> tags and I have to duplicate the functionality manually.—Kww(talk) 14:45, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
To get an entry, there needs to be a stable archive and a way to compute the URL for the archive entry from the date.—Kww(talk) 15:52, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
The title displayed from the template comes in the format of "Artist – Songname – Chartname" whereas all the other charts have it in the format of "Chartname – Artist – Songname". That needs to be similar for all Hung Medien charts right? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ]07:15, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
When I coded the templates, Hung Medien was inconsistent from chart to chart. The title is not supposed to be consistent internally, it is supposed to match what is presented by the website. If Hung Medien has changed, the template should be updated.—Kww(talk) 17:02, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
UK notes – incorrect date format + some suggestions
The date format mentioned in the notes for UK is incorrect, it should be YYYY-MM-DD, just as with {{albumchart}}. Plus this text is very much outdated: "For positions 41-100, UKchartstats should be used. This limitation is expected to be removed during 2010." I believe that UKchartstats shows positions 1-75, so it should say "For positions 41-75, ...", and maybe we could get rid of the last sentence? As for UKchartstats, maybe we could also remove the information about chartstats.co.uk and its licensing problems, and just write: "Points to the artist discography page on officialcharts.com. This only supports positions 1-75."? — Mayast (talk) 21:17, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
One more thing: are the "artist" and "song" parameters really used by UK, UKdance, UKdownload, etc. in any way? I think that only "date" parameter is really required to generate the reference; while UKchartstats only uses "artist" parameter. Or maybe they are used for internal reference naming? If that's the case, they should be marked with an asterisk. Mayast (talk) 21:28, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
I corrected the date format myself, and I'm leaving all the other suggestions for some other Contributors to consider ;) Cheers, Mayast (talk) 21:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
I updated the documents a little more thoroughly, Mayast. "Artist" and "song" are always listed as required so that we can recover from chart changes in the future. They may not be explicitly needed now, but they are likely to be required as the target sites evolve.—Kww(talk) 21:52, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, it looks much better now. There's just one more small thing: I believe that the "songid" parameter was associated with UKchartstats.com, so I guess we don't need it anymore. As for "artist" and "song" parameters, it's good to know. I will stop ignoring those parameters from now on, although I personally doubt that officialcharts.com could evolve in that direction. Mayast (talk) 22:29, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
They are talking about a new site in little popups when you visit. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to believe that they could develop a database based on song and artist. Nearly every other charting site does.—Kww(talk) 22:33, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Ok, that's even better to know. I must have closed the pop-up the first time without reading, and now it doesn't show up. I'll try to think of some articles where those parameters might be missing and fill them up, just in case. Thanks for info. Mayast (talk) 22:40, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that a lot of charts display the name of the publisher instead of the actual chart name. E.g. most of the UK charts are piped as Official Charts Company instead of displaying UK Rock Chart or some such. Or take the German charts that show Media Control AG which is in fact a redirect to the actual Media Control Charts. On the other hand there are the various other national charts that correctly display the name of the chartlist. I think when we list various single charts we should consequently reproduce the common names and not have the publisher appear in the main table row. OCC, Media Control and others should appear in the references but not as the name of the chart. De728631 (talk) 18:51, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I've been wondering for a while what we do about Irish chart positions prior to 2000. This is the cut-off date on the GFK Chart-Track site that the Singlechart template links to, so any use of the 'Ireland' parameter in the template for singles prior to 2000 results in a dead link, although this doesn't show up as an error in the citations list. I think many people are aware that irishcharts.ie allows you to search and find chart positions for singles before 2000, but I imagine this is more difficult to code into the template. At the moment the only way around it seems to be citing a direct URL link to the search page of irishcharts.ie with search instructions for the relevant song. The same applies for Irish album charts before 2000, although as the album chart only began in 1992 there's not so much of an issue there. Richard3120 (talk) 16:14, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Lescharts has gone off
The domain Lescharts.com seems to have expired and no chart archive present for France. Does any one know how to update the {{singlechart}}, {{albumchart}} template for archive links?
Could this be a temporary outage? The other chart domains operated by Hung Medien seem to be intact and Lescharts.com is still registered to Hung [11]. De728631 (talk) 20:54, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Not unless you can provide some information about the chart. How is it compiled? What does it include? Where is it archived?—Kww(talk) 17:25, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Mahasz Single Top 40
From now on the official Hungarian Singles Chart is extended into a top 40 chart. Please change thing according to that. The Hungarian Charts are still provided by Mahasz.
I went ahead and changed the three URLs for the Canadian charts, and it seems to work. If anything's broken, let me know. Seattle (talk) 01:57, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
The main question is though whether Hit Parade Italia is reliable. I don't know anything about the contributors but that site praises them all as "extraordinary experts" and the like. De728631 (talk) 19:22, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Didn't notice this before, but IndianBio, hitparadeitalia.it is not a reliable source. It publishes an unlicensed copy of a variety of charts without any pointers to tell you precisely which chart you are getting an unlicensed copy of.—Kww(talk) 13:30, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Official UK Charts Company website has changed
The official UK Charts Company website has been upgraded and now includes top 100 singles in the archives.[13] The Wikipedia formatting will need to be updated in order for the templates to work.QuintusPetillius (talk) 11:39, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
I think you may have missed my point. The text "UK Singles" should link to UK Singles Chart. The Official Charts Company in the brackets should link to Official Charts Company. That's not the behaviour I'm currently seeing on pages where this template is used, but frankly I don't understand templates well enough to make what I'd hope is a trivial edit myself. --Topperfalkon (talk) 22:40, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
MAHASZ
The Hungarian Charts (MAHASZ) have recently expanded the Single (Track) Top 10 chart into the Single (Track) Top 40 chart. They have also recently launched the Streaming Top 40 chart. Is there a way to update the template code to reflect these changes? Chihciboy (talk) 17:22, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Media Control and Gfk (Germany)
Since splitting with GfK Entertainment, Media Control has just recently launched their own chart system as a direct competition with Gfk's. Since both now claim to be Germany's national chart (though Gfk has the official title and Media Control claims as the most accurate), should the coding change to reflect these chanes since the template for Germany has the (Media Control Charts) in it but links its source to GFK's? Chihciboy (talk) 20:21, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
The existing template should not be modified, as that would change all existing references. If you can provide details of the new chart, I can look into providing a separate singlechart invocation.—Kww(talk) 20:24, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
But wouldn't that be misleading though since GfK Entertainment is now longer affiliated with the Media Control Charts? Anyway, the new Media Control charts' site is at charts.de. They now call it the Mega Charts (not to be confused with the Dutch version). Here are some sources (source 1, source 2) and their press release.
Link to Media Control Mega Charts - http://www.charts.de/top-100-musik-cw1-2015 (first published week - week 1, 2015), change "cw1-2015" to "cw2-2015" and so on to access the following chart week.
The url for tabs isn't working, so the reader will have to click the tabs manually. Unlike Gfk, the new Media Control charts are measured by volume (not value and/or revenue) of physical media, digital downloads, audio and video streaming, airplay, and web entries. Chihciboy (talk) 20:44, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
I have changed the piped link titles in the template from "Media Control Charts" to "Official German Charts" in order reflect the new situation. This does not change the reference links but credits the new name of the source. If you implement a separate template section for Media Control, it should be called the Media Control Mega Charts. De728631 (talk) 23:03, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
On the page Runaway (U & I), the 15th reference states Illegal name entered Galantis. I have no idea how to fix this because I'm not familiar with the template. Why is this happening ? -- tnumbermaniacc02:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi! The Federation of the Italian Music Industry has extended its archive, revealing the top 50 positions for singles on its website. These positions were never published before and, at the moment, they are not included on Italiancharts.
I added the option ItalyFIMI to the template, so that they can be cited. An example can be found here.
It would be better to include a direct URL, but FIMI uses URLs which include quotations, and I don't know how to include them without breaking the page. For example, a URL is: http://www.fimi.it/classifiche#{"id":1700,"s":"3"} . Replacing quotes with %22 doesn't work: in that case, the url links to the first page of the charts section, instead of the correct chart page. Is there a way to correctly cite (and, maybe, archive) these webpages?
Stee888 (talk) 09:16, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
FIMI has now changed all URLs, in the format http://www.fimi.it/classifiche#/category:digital/id:1035 . Luckily, they no longer contain the symbol ", so they can be used without breaking the wiki markup. I updated the template, using the chartid parameter, and I added this parameter to all articles which used the template citing FIMI as a source (Category:Singlechart usages for ItalyFIMI). However, we should be careful and check if URLs change again; in that case, we should go back to the template linking to the general section, with a note explaining how to reach the correct chart. Stee888 (talk) 22:10, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Non-English language charts
Can those who write the template for non-English-speaking countries use English for their various charts as it appears on the article? At the moment it is creating confusion with too many people who don't know that what's given in the component charts is not actually the main single chart because it is not in English, and keep changing the chart positions of discography pages, so others have to keep reverting them. For example many don't know that the Finnish chart positions listed in the article for a song is not necessarily the single chart, but download or airplay chart, so they keep adding them to the discography page. I only keep track of a few discography pages, so it could be a wider problem for other discography pages as well. Hzh (talk) 19:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Is there no one willing to do something about this? Some problems needed to be undone a few times since last time. Why gives fancy foreign names when this is English Wikepedia, and cause problems in the process because people can't understand them? Hzh (talk) 14:58, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm kind of lost with your complaint. First, if you can show me an official English translation of any chart name, it's easy enough to change singlechart to use it. Still, your complain seems to be founded in the idea that download and airplay charts don't belong in discographies, and that's not true: there's no rule (or even weak guidance) that would prevent an airplay or download chart from being included in a discography.—Kww(talk) 15:02, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
The complaint is that people don't understand what the chart means because it is not in English, so put the chart position into the wrong chart. We have people who see that Ghost Town charted in the Finnish download chart (Suomen virallinen latauslista), then put them in the Adam Lambert discography as the chart position for the Singles chart when it did not chart on that. Never said that the component charts don't belong in the discography page, just that people put in chart position for the wrong chart. I monitor just two or three discography pages, so I would assume this problem is something more widespread. Hzh (talk) 15:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
I would also suggest that for any non-English-speaking countries that has more than one song charts in use in the Singlechart template, then English should be used so people can understand which chart is being referred to. Hzh (talk) 15:36, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Singlechart usages for some Billboard charts
I would like to point out that the following uses of the singlechart template are no longer valid and should no longer be added to chart lists using the singlechart template.
Billboardbubbling100
Billboardcanadaac
Billboardcanadachrtop40
Billboardcanadacountry
Billboardcanadahotac
Billboardcanadarock
Billboardeurodigital
Billboardeuropeanhot100
Luxembourgdigitalsongs
Portugaldigitalsongs
Not of these charts are available on Billboard.com, so that's probably why, but I did find an alternative using the Billboard business site. In this example, you will see a listing of songs by Ariana Grande that charted on the Euro Digital Songs chart but I don't know if it's something that can be easily adapted to these templates. For defunct charts, such as the European Hot 100, the Biz site is not even good for that. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me03:51, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi Star, maybe a date parameter can be added to the urls? So that it links to the particular chart for the particular week. —Indian:BIO[ ChitChat ]05:14, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
But pointing to a particular week's chart doesn't confirm peak position (except for when it reaches #1). --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me16:49, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
As has been announced in the GFK thread above, the chart system in Germany is now split in two parts. After the split from Media Control, GfK Gesellschaft für Konsumforschung had a temporary website http://www.officialcharts.de which is now being redirected to https://www.offiziellecharts.de and their website has been completely restructured. Essentially this has two consequences for us:
The |Germany2= parameter in the template is no longer working.
This one may even be more important. The current terms and conditions (text in German) state that no data from the GfK website may be passed on to third parties and may not be used on other domains or websites. Use of https://www.offiziellecharts.de/ is only allowed for private purposes by individual site users.
I'm wondering whether this means that we have to quit using their material or whether we would still be allowed to link to their content. In the latter case we would also need to find a replacement scheme for lots of dead links resulting from the now invalid urls. De728631 (talk) 16:58, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
We could, however, use Musicline.de as a workaround which is the offical portal of the German music industry and a mirror for GfK's official charts. See their list of partners. Musicline's charts are updated with a little delay but their website is stable, does have a search function with easy-to-use urls and does not have any weird terms of use. Basically we would have to implement a template input for the artists name, an ID and a switch for single charts vs albums to access results from the GfK charts via Musicline. De728631 (talk) 22:55, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
@De728631:@Synthwave.94: Using Musicline.de won't work – the further back you go, the less information it shows. If you search for a week in 2008 it only shows the top 4, if you search in 2005 it only shows the number one single, and if you search back in the 1980s it doesn't show anything.
All the previous charts back to 1978 are still available to search and view at https://www.offiziellecharts.de/charts, but I don't know how we link this to the Singlechart and Albumchart templates. Richard3120 (talk) 01:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Is the template not working? The required fields are there but it seems the link is broken. It just point to the home page. --Efe (talk) 07:01, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
@Efe: see the discussion 'GfK (Germany) and officialcharts.de' above. Basically the website has changed completely, so the old links don't work. Richard3120 (talk) 01:22, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
I've been trying to give links for German chart position of older songs (e.g. Chicory Tip's Son of My Father), and it doesn't give any chart position. The Music Line one says "no chart data found" [14], and the Official Chart one can only give the chart info using the search function - [15] (search for Chicory Tip or the song title). Perhaps add a note about search for artist or song? Or maybe allow the url parameter to work so we can add link to other sources? Hzh (talk) 11:02, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, this is what I noted in the conversation above – the further back you go, the less likely it is that the information is available. However, in the case of "Son of My Father" there may be another issue: that song is from 1972 and Media Control's official singles chart only started in 1977, so that might be why you can't find it on the official chart site. There were West German charts published before 1977 in Die Muzikmarkt magazine, but they weren't national official ones. Billboard magazine in the US used to publish Top 10s from around the world back in the 1970s, it's possible that if you search the Billboard archives they may have a copy of the magazine from 1972 with the Die Muzikmarkt chart in it. Richard3120 (talk) 15:12, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Apart from the UK, US and Canada, very few countries had anything resembling an official chart before the 1980s, even Westernised countries like (West) Germany and Australia. Australia's ARIA charts began in 1983 when they started using the Kent Music Report that David Kent had been compiling for a decade: in 1988 they began producing the charts in-house and these are the ARIA charts you see today. For charts before the 1970s, Kent had to do an even more retrospective analysis: there were charts from the 1940s onwards, but these were city-based charts usually produced by local radio stations. Kent combined and analysed all those old charts, assigning a weighting to each chart based on the city's population (because obviously a no. 1 in Darwin sold considerably fewer records than a no. 1 in Sydney) and came up with retrospective charts for the 1940s, 50s and 60s. This is where charts for that era come from, but they have only "existed" since 2005, and can be found in Kent's book Australia Chart Book 1940–1969 – I don't think you can find them (legally) online, but that is the book you should be citing for Australian charts up to 1969. His books are in the British Library: if I remember I'll check "House of the Rising Sun"'s position next time I am in there at the end of this year and make sure it really did only reach no. 2. Richard3120 (talk) 23:01, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
@Richard3120: Thank you for the information on Australian chart. Useful to know. I have seen it mentioned elsewhere that "House of the Rising Sun" did reach No. 1 in Australia, although it is never certain what kind of chart they meant, a problem I frequently see (even Billboard, for example I saw in a Billboard article claiming Giorgio's version of "Son of My Father" charting higher in the States than listed in Billboard.biz). Is this a legitimate source for charts - it gives #2 for Chicory Tip's "Son of My Father" in South Africa [16], #2 in Spain and #1 in Argentina [17]? Hzh (talk) 00:48, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
I've just changed the 1964 Australian number ones back to what they were before that IP messed around with them. Yes, this is the problem with trying to get definitive versions of older charts: there used to be several competing ones, so it is possible that "House of the Rising Sun" was number one on some of the city charts, as I mentioned, but when Kent calculated his overall chart for the nation in 2005 it only made number two... I'm guessing here. It's like in the UK, back in the 1960s NME, Melody Maker, Record Mirror and Record Retailer (which would later become Music Week) all published their own competing charts, and it wasn't until 1969 that the British Market Research Bureau got the contract to compile the first official national charts. This led to the well-known situation where the Beatles reached number one with "Please Please Me" on all the charts, except in Record Retailer... so when that magazine's charts were chosen in 1977 to be the "official" charts before the BMRB era, there were (and still are) a lot of angry Beatles fans who feel the band were deprived of their first number one. Mind you, they then had 17 others to make up for it...
The Billboard articles you have found are what I was talking about. As you can see, a lot of the "national charts" are in fact radio station charts – that's how it was back in those days. As they are published in a reputable source, and there are no other charts from the era to contradict them, I would think you could use them as legitimate sources, unless someone else on here disagrees. Richard3120 (talk) 01:09, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Just adding if you are interested, the chart where "The House of the Rising Sun" reached number 1 in Australia was supplied by Music Maker, Sydney (appears to be a now defunct magazine) according to Billboard - [18]. Hzh (talk) 13:31, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks – yes, that proves my theory, it was no. 1 in Sydney but not nationwide, and when Kent came to calculate his overall chart for the whole of Australia it only made no. 2. Richard3120 (talk) 16:35, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Finland
If a single has not charted on the comprehensive Finland chart, can both Finland airplay and Finland digital be added, or only Finland digital? Abi-Maria (talk) 15:49, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Latin Pop Songs
Hi, could someone fix this: the Chart ID Billboardlatinpopsongs for Latin Pop Songs doesn't work. It leads to site with no charts. MAyby the url has changed over the time. Can anyone fix it? The same problem is with BillboardLatinPop for Latin Pop Albums. Thanks in advance, Max24 (talk) 23:35, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
@IndianBio: Hi, yes but these charts are still there. Look here and here. You can also access them on every artist's page when you enter the Billboard website. Just these Wikipedia links don't work... Max24 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
I can't see how it's not working. {{singlechart|Billboardlatinpopsongs|artist=Shakira|2=2}} produces the following and a working reference link. Can you please provide an example where it did not work for you?
@De728631: Hmmm, the Latin Pop Airplay is working now (wasn't few houres ago), but Latin Pop Albums still doesn't work. For example look at the Sex and Love - it leads to an empty page but the list is available on Billboard. Could you fix that too? Max24 (talk) 01:44, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
The list is only available on Billboard because they changed their url structure once again. It's very hard for us though to keep their old weblinks verifiable and working and at the same time keep up with the rapidly changing link system Billboard is employing. What makes it worse is that {{albumchart}} is already depending on a plethora of subtemplates to produce a Billboard url and I'm afraid I for one lost track there. So where it's not working it is probably easier to use an archived weblink (e.g. from archive.org) or just hardcode the current url into a table row without using the charts template. De728631 (talk) 19:33, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Can someone please add the Latvian Top 40? It's compiled by Spotify, Deezer, iTunes and other music service weekly data, that is sent to Latvian Radio 5, which compiles the weekly Top 40. If someone adds the Latvian Top 40 to the list, I'd be happy to keep the information on single pages up to date. :) The weekly Top 40 website - [19] --Sula1 (talk) 16:03, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
If there's no archive, there's no place for singlechart to point to. Where's the archive? Also, where are the reliable sources that reference this chart?—Kww(talk) 13:47, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Archive will be added soon (this chart is still young). Official page under Latvian national public radio website isn't enough? --Laurijs (talk) 17:46, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Estonia needs to be added, but there are several sources
For a very long time, I was aware of one Eesti Top 40, which has been the official chart of Estonia, which was based on most-played songs by major Estonian commercial radio stations, most-sold singles, and the most fashionable club songs, and was published by the commercial station Raadio Uuno.
Strangely enough, Raadio Uuno now has one "Uuno Top 20", and its official website does not list anything related to Top 40.
Then, Estonia's commercial Sky Plus has its own weekly Top 20, right here.
And Estonia's public Raadio 2 has its own Top 20, which is a monthly chart.
Would it be possible to implement a manual referencing parameter similar to the functionality on the {{albumchart}} template on the single chart template? Given the number of charts that are no longer properly archived in the artists' chart histories on the Billboard website and other issues that have resulted in some charts being consistently added manually, this feature would be beneficial. It would help with consistent formatting/styling across all articles if the automated format generated by the template could still be used but substituting in our own references (such as the Billboard.biz chart search link). Songsteel (talk) 16:21, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
"Ref name" parameter
Dear administrators, please add all the {{{refname}}} parameter into all of the single template. It is currently missed on several charts, including the UK Download Chart. Thank you Bluesatellite (talk) 22:35, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
The best way to get results that you want is to copy the current template code to the template's sandbox, make the edits that you want there, test the new template in your own sandbox, and then use {{Edit fully-protected}} to request a change to the template. The request above is not specific enough. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:22, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 18 July 2016
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Hi admin, please add the below piece of code to the table for Portugal?
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Hi, I would like to have some changes to the Finnish section. In Finland, there are four official IFPI single charts: comprehensive chart (singlelista) and its components, the streaming chart (striimatuimmat), the downloads chart (latauslista) and the airplay chart (radiosoittolista). However, the difference is not visible when the page is edited, it says just "Finland ([chart name in Finnish])", which gives inadequate information to people who don't know Finnish. Therefore, I would like to have in the template texts like "Finland, downloads" instead of "Finland" (in case the single has entered only the downloads chart) and "Finland, airplay" instead of "Finland" (in case the single has entered only the airplay chart). -- Puisque (talk) 11:31, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:37, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
@MSGJ: thanks for doing this. Yes I did test it in the sandbox, however, in the edit request above I forgot to add the break command within the nowiki tags. Hence it took it in a single line. Sorry for the confusion. —IB[ Poke ]12:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
No worries. Next time you can just link to the sandbox version and ask for that to be copied over. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:36, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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Please change the below piece of code: AS IS: |latauslista={{!}}Finland, downloads ([[The Official Finnish Charts|Suomen virallinen latauslista]]) TO BE: |latauslista={{!}}Finland Download ([[The Official Finnish Charts|Suomen virallinen latauslista]])
The comma should not be there and per the UK Download chart, it should just be Finland Download.
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I would like to request that the other Canadian airplay charts (AC, CHR/Top 40, Hot AC, and Rock) be adapted to use the billboard.biz chart search history instead of the now-removed billboard.com chart histories the same way that Canada Country and the Bubbling Under Hot 100 charts have done. This will make these charts easier to work with and maintain stylistic consistency through use of the template. I have made the changes in the sandbox and successfully tested them out. An example of the requested URL change is as follows:
AS IS
|Billboardcanadaac={{!}}Canada [[Canada AC|AC]] (''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]''){{#tag:ref|{{#if:{{{artist|}}}||[[Category:Singlechart used with missing parameters]]<span style="color:red;">ERROR: Billboard chart was invoked without providing an artist. Artist is a mandatory field for this call.</span>}}[{{BillboardURL|artist={{{artist}}}|chartnum=1237|forceartist={{{forceartist}}}|artistid={{{artistid}}}}} "{{{artist}}} – Chart history"] [[Canada AC|''Billboard'' Canada AC]] for {{{artist}}}. {{#if:{{{publishdate|}}}|{{{publishdate}}}. }} {{#if:{{{accessdate|}}}| Retrieved {{{accessdate}}}. }}|name={{#if:{{{refname|}}}|{{{refname}}}|"sc_{{strip whitespace|{{{1|}}}}}_{{{artist|}}}"}}|group={{#if:{{{refgroup|}}}| "{{{refgroup}}}"}}}} {{Single chart/chartnote|{{{note|}}}}}
TO BE
|Billboardcanadaac={{!}}Canada [[Canada AC|AC]] (''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]''){{#tag:ref|{{#if:{{{artist|}}}||[[Category:Singlechart used with missing parameters]]<span style="color:red;">ERROR: Billboard chart was invoked without providing an artist. Artist is a mandatory field for this call.</span>}}[http://www.billboard.com/biz/search/charts?f%5B0%5D=ts_chart_artistname%3A{{BillboardEncode|{{{artist}}}}}&f%5B1%5D=itm_field_chart_id%3A1237&f%5B2%5D=ss_bb_type%3Achart_item&type=2&artist={{BillboardEncode|{{{artist}}}}} "{{{artist}}} – Chart history"] [[Canada AC|''Billboard'' Canada AC]] for {{{artist}}}. {{#if:{{{publishdate|}}}|{{{publishdate}}}. }} {{#if:{{{accessdate|}}}| Retrieved {{{accessdate}}}. }}|name={{#if:{{{refname|}}}|{{{refname}}}|"sc_{{strip whitespace|{{{1|}}}}}_{{{artist|}}}"}}|group={{#if:{{{refgroup|}}}| "{{{refgroup}}}"}}}} {{Single chart/chartnote|{{{note|}}}}}
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The Portuguese chart needs to be changed from being an artist- and song-based template to linking to year and week. This might be a bit of work, but Hung Medien simply doesn't archive the Portuguese chart positions at song articles on portuguesecharts.com. For instance, there is no record of "Sorry" by Justin Bieber being number 1 here, but there is on its year and week chart here. This has caused some problems of late, with users reading the year and week chart list and using the Portuguese entry with artist and song parameters, except it does not show that information there. If somebody could create code that requires year and week to be input and linked to week 32 of 2016, for instance, and would be very beneficial, otherwise users are linking to information that is not there. The code could generate the proper URLs required to link to the peaks on the site, with the code needing to allow for the parameters "woche" (week) and "jahr" (year) (and by appending "sparte=s" to indicate "singles"), as shown by the following example URL: http://www.portuguesecharts.com/archive.asp?todo=show&woche=1&jahr=2016&sparte=s. Ss11218:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
I partially withdraw this, as I actually looked further down each page and the data is contained next to the weeks and graphical bars there. However, I also feel it would be beneficial to allow the option to link to weeks, as the Portuguese charts do not appear to show any data on the pages besides the listings next to the graphical bars. Ss11221:09, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
This would be the place to get consensus if I asked for a complete change, but I didn't ask for that, as I altered my request to be for the code to allow users to add week and year parameters instead of/as a complement to artist and song. I don't believe that a complementary support for additional parameters is sufficiently "controversial" to require consensus, which is what WP:Edit requests says. I'm asking for things in addition, not content to be replaced or taken away. Ss11206:17, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Template editors are cautious about not-obviously has-consensus changes since we're on the hook in the same way as admins are when editing protected pages. What is probably needed is to set up a "template help" template, which can be used to help gain consensus on a template talk page, subsequently in preparation for a template edit request. Basically, something lighter-weight than a full RFC. In the mean time, please get consensus for your change (advertising this change at the relevant WikiProjects is encouraged) and make your suggested change specific (use of the sandbox is encouraged). If you don't know how to make the suggested edit in the sandbox, that will take us longer to process since we have to figure out what exactly you're requesting. --Izno (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
@Izno: But then, why is it the editors who requested changes above didn't need to get consensus but I do when I'm merely suggesting using an alternate method of calling up chart positions on a website? Ss11220:06, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
The easiest explanation is that theirs weren't adding additional functionality, for the most part. The not-so-easier analysis is that they had requested the explicit changes in mind. It's easier for a TE to review others' changes to establish whether they are controversial or not than to go out on a limb as a TE to make the changes himself (and possibly make the wrong changes!). --Izno (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 5 September 2016
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Requesting to add the Australiadance chart through the pandora link as per the coding given below. This should be added after the Australiaurban entry ends.
|Australiadance={{#ifeq:{{str find|{{{url}}}|pandora.nla.gov.au}}|-1
| INVALID AUSTRALIAN CHART ENTERED! This chart requires use of the archive at pandora.nla.gov.au
| {{!}}Australian Dance ([[ARIA Charts|ARIA]]){{#tag:ref|"[{{{url}}} {{{urltitle}}}"] [[ARIA Charts|ARIA Top 50 Dance Singles]]. National Library of Australia. {{{publishdate|}}} {{#if:{{{accessdate|}}}| Retrieved {{{accessdate}}}. }}|name={{#if:{{{refname|}}}|{{{refname}}}|"sc_{{strip whitespace|{{{1|}}}}}_{{{artist|}}}"}}|group={{#if:{{{refgroup|}}}| "{{{refgroup}}}"}}}} {{Single chart/chartnote|{{{note|}}}}}
{{!}}style="text-align:center;"{{!}}{{{2}}}
}}
Has this been discussed anyway? If not, please initiate a discussion somewhere appropriate.. If you get consensus (or lack of opposition) please feel free to reactivate. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:16, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, the ARIA charts as a group are covered at GOODCHARTS, which seems to be a well-maintained record of source investigation. Normally I would just do it as a TemplateEditor, but I tend to let the (or another) admin made the change if an admin declined/delayed the initial request. — SMcCandlish ☺☏¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 06:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 16 September 2016
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The code for UKZobble misspells "Zobbel" and should be corrected to UKZobbel. www.zobbel.de always refers to itself as "Zobbel" and never "Zobble". Is there any way the code can allow for the existing instances of UKZobble (which I've used on multiple pages knowing that that spelling is incorrect) to be redirected and not show up as an illegal chart? Ss11218:34, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Done "UKZobbel" parameter added, and various misspellings fixed. "UKZobble" will continue to work for now, and will display correctly as "Zobbel". Although either way works, it's probably good idea to start changing instances of "UKZobble" to "UKZobbel", to avoid confusion. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 19:15, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
If this chart is accessed twice in the same article a cite error is created, as seen for the Scottish charts in Push the Feeling On. The same error is demonstrated for the FIMI in this template's own documentation (example 4). Someone please fix. Jodosma(talk)08:49, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 14 January 2017
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The Irish charts have changed from being archived by GfK on chart-track.co.uk to being published by the Official Charts Company (http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/irish-singles-chart/), except the OCC only publishes the top 50 while IRMA still publishes the top 100 on irma.ie but does not archive their own charts. So, since it appears irish-charts.com is still being updated (via its discography pages, at least), I'm proposing that the code for Hung Medien sites be adapted for Ireland, maybe as the option Ireland3. However, this code for irish-charts.com will need to be altered so that the Irish discography page (for instance, for Starley: http://irish-charts.com/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Starley) can be linked to by using the artist parameter (the song or album parameters would be unnecessary). This also goes for the Irish albums chart. Perhaps for top 50 peaks, the above-linked Irish archive on OCC can be made into an entry (Ireland4, perhaps) using the OCC template for Scotland and the UK (using the date parameter |date=2017-01-13 and so on). Ss11218:55, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
@SMcCandlish: I'm not good with coding, and I would have no idea where to start. I thought that it was straight-forward enough that somebody who does know what they're doing could copy bits of existing templates to make the new entries. Ss11210:04, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
This is a bit of an easter egg. An reader would not expect clicking on Official Charts Company to lead to an article on the specific chart. Since most of the individual charts do in fact have their own articles, I suggest a change to generate the text in the form
[[UK R&B Chart|UK R&B]] (Official Charts Company)
since it's the chart that's important here, and the publisher is secondary (and perhaps not even necessary or useful at all). Colonies Chris (talk) 14:36, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
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As described above, change generated code to make more transparent wikilinks and avoid easter eggs:
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Request updated; see sandbox & testcases for tests.
As described above, change generated code to make more transparent wikilinks and avoid easter eggs (and one additional fix to combine two adjacent links into one):
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Per the edits requested above, can links please be added back to Official Charts Company in the code that was altered? Every other single chart's publisher is linked to, and there's nothing forbidding the chart and its publisher both being linked (for instance, see Template:Album chart and "Canadian Albums (Billboard)"). Having links to just the chart and not the Official Charts Company, while every other single chart has their publisher linked, looks odd and like an error has been made to the coding. The changes requested above had a very broad reach and affect thousands upon thousands of articles. Please add back links to Official Charts Company for consistency (not copypasting markup as I think it's a simple request). Ss11211:02, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. - the whole point to template-protection is to prevent hasty and ill-considered changes, and to prevent a ping-pong switch between two alternate versions. If you can point to an actual error in the code, rather than something like an error, then I'll happily revert the change while the discussion continues. (Pinging contributors at the original request, Colonies Chris, Train2104, MSGJ) Cabayi (talk) 11:31, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Ss112, you're perfectly free to "not copypast[e] markup as I think it's a simple request" but, if the live copy and the sandbox copy are the same, then the testcases aren't going to show any difference and won't help the discussion. Cabayi (talk) 11:47, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
@Cabayi: I'm not asking for a revert of the changes Colonies Chris asked to be implemented. I'm simply asking for a link to the publisher to be added as all the other single chart entries have their publishers linked. Forgive my original wording—that inconsistency is an error. This isn't "a ping-pong switch", because I'm not asking for the chart name to be de-linked, only for a link to be re-added. There have been changes requested here in the past that have not needed "consensus" to be implemented. Also, where was consensus established for the change Colonies Chris asked for? Why do I need consensus to add links? Ss11211:59, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Also, regarding the code, Cabayi, I don't know how to edit complex template code very well, even in a sandbox, and I'm not going to mess around with it, even to "test". I'm asking for a link to be added; I don't think I need to experiment to show this. Edit: Just a request—even if you're addressing me—there is no need to ping me, as I've watchlisted this page.Ss11212:02, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
So,
"Per the edits requested above", but nothing to do with the edits above;
"can links please be added back", even though the links to Official Charts Company weren't there in the first case;
to fix "like an error has been made to the coding", though there's no error; and
"I don't know how to edit complex template code very well" vs "I think it's a simple request".
You've certainly done the utmost to make a simple request (please link Official Charts Company) as controversial (hence, needing consensus) and complicated as possible. I've done it in the sandbox, please check the testcases to confirm it's what you're after. Cabayi (talk) 13:51, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Both I and Cabayi have pointed out that there never was a link to Official Charts Company. Each time it was piped to the name of the chart - all those links were easter eggs. That's why I wanted to get rid of them and introduce clear links to the actual charts. There has, rightly, never been any actual link to the publisher, and there would be no benefit to introducing one. If anything, consideration should be given to linking the charts in other similar templates, such as {{Album chart}}, mentioned above, and removing the links to the publisher. It's much more helpful to link to an article about the specific chart than to a more general article about the publisher. Colonies Chris (talk)
@Cabayi: Yes, what you did in the sandbox is what I meant. Thank you for doing so. Just to clear some things up:
"Per the edits requested above" just meant following on from them.
"Can links please be added back"—I simply meant the text being linked. I understand the text linked to UK Singles Chart, etc.
"Like an error" does not mean there is an error; I meant the inconsistency with other publishers being linked and the UK-related ones not.
I meant simple for somebody who knows what they're doing; I don't like to mess around on template sandboxes for fear I'll mess up some formatting in some way.
I just would like consistency with publishers being linked. Perhaps there is a benefit to changing the way other entries and templates are formatted, but that's not what I'm asking for and that would require consensus beyond I and this proposal. I apologise if I caused much fuss; if it could be made live, I would be grateful. Ss11217:24, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Well, we are where we are, and what might have been an uncontroversial change is now disputed. Does the community want the charts' publishers linked or not. Either way is a change, to link Official Charts Company, or to de-link Billboard and the others. Would someone care to word-up an RfC? Cabayi (talk) 17:38, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
This is going to go on with probably no consensus for quite a while. It should not have been changed in the first place. I think it's unnecessary that we have to have a community discussion because of one objection, so I'm out except to say I entirely object to having publishers de-linked and the way the templates have been since they were added to Wikipedia changed. Ss11218:19, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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I am proposing a small formatting change. The Finland Download chart name in the first column under charts is currently so long that whenever the download chart is added, a table looks disproportionately long. I am proposing the below change which is consistent with the chart naming convention in single chart template.
AS IS: |latauslista={{!}}Finland Download ([[The Official Finnish Charts|Suomen virallinen latauslista]])
TO BE:
|latauslista={{!}}Finland Download ([[The Official Finnish Charts|Latauslista]])
Latauslista is enough to link it as the official download chart. That way that extra lengthy chart name issue can also be mitigated. —IB[ Poke ]16:21, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. There are also 2 other links to The Official Finnish Charts displayed with 3 words, and they also both begin with "Suomen virallinen", so perhaps they should also be displayed with just the last word with an initial capital instead if the Finland Download link display text were changed. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 21:46, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
@GeoffreyT2000: this would not actually require a consensus, because what is currently listed is inaccurate. If you see in the official links, it is listed as Latauslista and not with the full expansion as given here. However, the others are listed with the full expansion like Suomen virallinen lista. We would need to make similar changes for the radio also since its named just as Radiosoittolista. —IB[ Poke ]03:38, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
Done Since the band is fairly new and had their first song in the charts only this year, they weren't yet listed in one of the various Billboard sub-templates that are needed to get Single chart working. More specifically, I added the missing entry in {{BillboardID/M}}. De728631 (talk) 13:13, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 7 May 2017. Please change ref rendering from all EXCEPT Billboard Hot 100 from Billboard (chart name) to US (chart name).
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Example HERE where the in-Table display = US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs (Billboard). The ref renders, "Alicia Keys – Chart history" Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs for Alicia Keys.
Please change to "Alicia Keys – Chart history" US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs for Alicia Keys. Similarly, please change all other US single charts EXCEPT Billboard Hot 100 from Billboard (chart name) to US (chart name).
This request is to comply with Wikipedia:Record charts/Billboard charts guide, "Billboard magazine is the provider of US charts; however, its use on Wikipedia when mentioning charts should be limited: i.e., charts should simply be referred to as US followed by the chart name. The only two exceptions to this rule are the Billboard Hot 100 and the Billboard 200, which should include Billboard as it is a part of the actual chart name."—Iknow23 (talk) 04:14, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
I don't see a need for this change at all. Wikipedia:Record charts/Billboard charts guide is meant as an unofficial guideline for mentioning US charts in Wikipedia tables and plain text where the "plain" chart names should be used. Adding "Billboard" to the refence text, however, does make sense so the uninformed reader can connect the chart name with Billboard magazine. De728631 (talk) 16:15, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
