Should switchers be included or not? I say yes. (oops, added them while logged out, but that was me) Trainmastercrc (talk) 04:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Should gallery cars be included in this template? Amtrak operated a fleet of them for over 20 years, their usefulness reaching enough for some to be modified with cab controls halfway through their lifetime. @Pi.1415926535 reverted the edit that included them, arguing there is no "article specifically about the ex-CNW gallery cars that Amtrak used." However this would seem disingenuous as there are examples in the list (Budd RDC, Siemens Venture) with several operators and no dedicated Amtrak article; anything from a mention in prose to a section suffices. The gallery car article does include a description for Amtrak's cars with a reference. Central Corridor ...talk? 21:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Central Corridor: You are correct - I had thought that "gallery car" was a generic term rather than a specific model - so I think it's appropriate to include them in this template. However, when researching them just now, I found that some sources (in particular Amtrak by the Numbers) label them as part of the Heritage Fleet. They weren't rebuilt with HEP like the rest of the Heritage Fleet, since they already had it, but they otherwise had a more similar history to the rebuilt Heritage Fleet than the other inherited cars that weren't ever rebuilt. It's ultimately a semantic distinction, and I don't care strongly whether they should be a sub-bullet under Heritage Fleet. (Hi-Level cars definitely should be, though.) @Mackensen: Pinging you in case you have an opinion. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:30, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Gallery car should be in the template; there were certainly in Amtrak service long enough. The Heritage Fleet question is more complicated. Depending on how you define it, it's basically any car that Amtrak inherited/bought between 1971-1975 that wasn't a new order. We do have overlap with existing articles in a number of areas. Hi-Level and Slumbercoach are the most obvious, but Pacific series is another. Amtrak used the ex-B&O Strata-Domes until 1981. Mackensen (talk) 03:23, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- After considering it, the way I am interpreting this is that Hi-Levels and gallery cars primarily operated as complete trainsets assigned to specific routes, while the great variety of inherited coaches were a general pool that existed intermingling throughout the system, the Heritage Fleet. Other former rolling stock in the template suggests this too. It seems we have reached a consensus on the gallery car debacle, so I am committing to the format described above with @Mackensen's additional suggestions and a few more. Central Corridor ...talk? 01:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed a certain future trainset has not been added to the list. (You'll never guess what model it is.) I wasn't sure if it should be included, since it's not part of the fleet yet, but the Avelia Liberty is there, so I suppose the FLIRT should be, too.
- AAEexecutive (talk) 16:37, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- What's the status of the order? The Avelia Liberty trainsets are on the property, just not in revenue service. Mackensen (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
