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Articles to possibly add to various sections to make the portal more robust
This is an old list combined with new entries. I'll add Done to them once they are added to the rotations for the main page. Feel free to add to the list and mark entries done when they've been added.
A curious thing I just noticed. If I applied {{Portal|Speculative fiction/Fantasy}} to an article, it displays a puzzle piece icon, but clicking on the link goes directly to the Fantasy tab of Portal:Speculative fiction without any redirect.
If instead, I was to apply {{Portal|Fantasy}} to an article (per P:Fantasy shortcut), it displays a hooded figure icon, but uses a redirect to send me to Portal:Speculative fiction/Fantasy. This seems a little strange if Portal:Speculative fiction/Fantasy is the direct link; shouldn't it display the hooded icon? — Christopher, Sheridan, OR (talk) 11:15, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As a followup to my previous observation, I've discovered that Portal:Speculative fiction/Science fiction isn't linking correctly. When Science fiction is added to a portal list on an article, it links to the Portal page via a redirect. The shortcut at the top-right of the Portal page says P:SCIFI, but that shortcut is ignored when added to a portal list, and thus fails to display on articles. I'll give an example... Star Trek: The Motion Picture#See also.
This stub has been tagged for notability for nine years. I am not finding a lot online to prove notability. Please help rescue this, or it could face deletion. Bearian (talk) 19:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This portal is the first page I've found on Wikipedia which is not 'Android friendly'. I think the problem may lie in the first image, which is wider (in pixels) than a modern phone. The image cannot be made smaller with a pinch. Viewing it in landscape mode works 112.141.104.155 (talk) 04:03, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have the same problem, whether I open it in the browser or the app. It seems a bit strange that this should be the only page (possibly) on Wikipedia that cannot be read comfortably on a phone. If it is the image, let's change it: it is not vital to recognising or understanding the portal. If it is the row of buttons at the foot of the image, they should be made responsive so they can wrap round on smaller screens.
@Nihonjoe:, I appreciate that it has been this way since you redesigned the page in January 2010, and it looks fine. However, technology has moved on, and we ought to make sure that this page is accessible to allcomers. It seems inappropriate for the Speculative Fiction Portal, of all pages, to say 'nothing can change'! -- Verbarson talkedits19:23, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Verbarson: I understand your concern, and you'll run into the same problem with any wide image on the site. It's not the row of buttons at the bottom of the page, either. Saying "technology has moved on" makes no sense here. Wide images then are still wide images now, and phone browsers will have problems with them. As far as I know, there's not a way to make it load a smaller version of the image if viewed on a phone. If there is, I'm happy to implement it. Otherwise, saying the portal doesn't work because the image at the top doesn't display how you want it to display is disingenuous. The rest of the portal loads just fine on all the phones I've used to view it. I will see if I can find anything that will reduce the size of the image on a phone or other small-screened device, but there are no guarantees. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:25, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
By "technology has moved on" I just meant that many more people are reading Wikipedia on mobile devices these days.
I'll freely admit that I do not understand how the portal page is constructed. However, I don't see that the size of the image - from the left of the 'P' to the right of the 'L' - is the limiting factor. When I go onto the mobile site, but on my laptop, I can shrink it down until the buttons refuse to get smaller or closer together, and they are what define the minimum width of the page.
And if it is the image that fixes it, can we really not have a smaller one? It's fine as an image, it just needs a smaller version for narrower screens.
